The old B1G1 sale appears to be over and is being replaced with a 75% off sale; plus the 10% off for your Game Informer card comes off the original (and the the dicounted price), makes the deal closer to 85% off. It also appears that the old N64 and PS1 games are being consolidated in select stores, so many stores will not have any games and some will have a ridiculous amount. YMMV and good luck.
75% off N64 and PS1 Games @ EB/GS
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IAmTheCheapestGamer
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[quote name='FOnewearl']Must not be much better around Wilkes-Barre then it is in Williamsport. The used section was weak at the Lycoming Mall even years ago for some of the systems. I remember when EBgames first started getting into used games. They barely had any NES games & the selection of SNES & Genesis games wasen't that great back in the mid 90s at the EBgames at the Lycoming Mall. I was actually taking to a guy afew weeks ago that said he would drive to another EBgames because the 16-bit selection was much better back when all of the mall stores still carried that stuff (mid 90s I'd think), Susquehanna Valley Mall IIRC was the one he'd go to. Also alot of the less popular systems had a less average used selection at the Lycoming mall especially at the end of the systems' life (Saturn, N64, Dreamcast I'm mostly thinking of) actually the Dreamcast selection wasen't too bad while the Dreamcast was still alive but dried up pretty quickly when the Dreamcast went under. I still remember going to State College with my one friend around '99 and seeing a much better selection of used Saturn games when they were $5-10 for alot of the used Saturn games.[/quote]
Like I said, the ONLY dump store in my area was Dickson City, but since all the old employees quit or got fired, I sincerely doubt the new workers would put out ANY of the older games anymore. That is, of course, if the old workers didn't hoard anything good and leave behind the 50 metric shittons of Madden and other crap sports titles that each dump store is known for.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind finding an original version copy of Tiger Woods 99 for PS1, since it had the Santa vs. Jesus South Park episode added onto it as 'filler', but I'm sure those copies are all in the hands of collectors by now.
Like I said, the ONLY dump store in my area was Dickson City, but since all the old employees quit or got fired, I sincerely doubt the new workers would put out ANY of the older games anymore. That is, of course, if the old workers didn't hoard anything good and leave behind the 50 metric shittons of Madden and other crap sports titles that each dump store is known for.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind finding an original version copy of Tiger Woods 99 for PS1, since it had the Santa vs. Jesus South Park episode added onto it as 'filler', but I'm sure those copies are all in the hands of collectors by now.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Like I said, the ONLY dump store in my area was Dickson City, but since all the old employees quit or got fired, I sincerely doubt the new workers would put out ANY of the older games anymore. That is, of course, if the old workers didn't hoard anything good and leave behind the 50 metric shittons of Madden and other crap sports titles that each dump store is known for.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind finding an original version copy of Tiger Woods 99 for PS1, since it had the Santa vs. Jesus South Park episode added onto it as 'filler', but I'm sure those copies are all in the hands of collectors by now.[/QUOTE]
I doubt any of the few dump stores within 50 miles of me had much to begin with at the start of 75% off worth playing or worth money. I know the Lycoming Mall at least had a copy of Star Ocean 2 (thanks to being fairly high priced) sitting around before they shipped off the small amount of PS1 games they had left (maybe about 2 dozen PSX games and half a dozen N64 games) When I was at the Buckhorn Plaza GameStop in Bloomsburg last September the N64 selection was small and could be summed up by saying shit sandwich
I can't remember if I mentioned it but I spotted a copy of X-Com for the PSX (longbox) that was only afew dollars that I picked up during that visit as it only rang up a few bucks since it had a back insert for Battle Arena Toshinden and rung up as so. I wasen't brave enough to dig though all of the PSX games they had in hopes of finding any gems buried in the mess.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind finding an original version copy of Tiger Woods 99 for PS1, since it had the Santa vs. Jesus South Park episode added onto it as 'filler', but I'm sure those copies are all in the hands of collectors by now.[/QUOTE]
I doubt any of the few dump stores within 50 miles of me had much to begin with at the start of 75% off worth playing or worth money. I know the Lycoming Mall at least had a copy of Star Ocean 2 (thanks to being fairly high priced) sitting around before they shipped off the small amount of PS1 games they had left (maybe about 2 dozen PSX games and half a dozen N64 games) When I was at the Buckhorn Plaza GameStop in Bloomsburg last September the N64 selection was small and could be summed up by saying shit sandwich
I can't remember if I mentioned it but I spotted a copy of X-Com for the PSX (longbox) that was only afew dollars that I picked up during that visit as it only rang up a few bucks since it had a back insert for Battle Arena Toshinden and rung up as so. I wasen't brave enough to dig though all of the PSX games they had in hopes of finding any gems buried in the mess.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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LOL I was and picked up a copy of Saga Frontier II and a couple others from that store too I think. But, the thing is WHEN I'll have time to PLAY those games with my last gen backlog being as big as it is.
I think the guys in the Buckhorn store stopped me from buying a second disc only SF II that I found in that shitload of nothing they had on those shelves.
Thing is, now that I bought a SECOND Genesis model 2(since the first one had an F'd up power port), I might want some of those 'useless' Genny titles.
Mind you, for my NES/SNES needs, I'm thinking of getting one of those FC Twins I see all over(and have almost bought @ GC a bunch of times), since finding ANOTHER NES and a SNES would be ridiculously hard in this area. Although, I should just try the shop I got the model 2 Genny from last week(The Gamestation on Lee Park Ave. in Wilkes Barre, PA) cause they even said they guarantee their used consoles.
Anyway, I doubt I'm going to hit the Buckhorn GS again anytime soon, but you never know with me, since I'm always headed to auctions all over the damned place.
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I think the guys in the Buckhorn store stopped me from buying a second disc only SF II that I found in that shitload of nothing they had on those shelves.
Thing is, now that I bought a SECOND Genesis model 2(since the first one had an F'd up power port), I might want some of those 'useless' Genny titles.
Mind you, for my NES/SNES needs, I'm thinking of getting one of those FC Twins I see all over(and have almost bought @ GC a bunch of times), since finding ANOTHER NES and a SNES would be ridiculously hard in this area. Although, I should just try the shop I got the model 2 Genny from last week(The Gamestation on Lee Park Ave. in Wilkes Barre, PA) cause they even said they guarantee their used consoles.
Anyway, I doubt I'm going to hit the Buckhorn GS again anytime soon, but you never know with me, since I'm always headed to auctions all over the damned place.
Xmovieman2742
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Not sure who first posted this, but yes:
RIP EB Games.
Every GameStop that I have ever been into has always had bad customer service and that was a great way to make a first impression. Anyone else have a similar experience?
RIP EB Games.
Every GameStop that I have ever been into has always had bad customer service and that was a great way to make a first impression. Anyone else have a similar experience?
I just called up two Gamestops that on the site tracker have tons of awesome ps1 games and possibly n64 stuff. I called up and they claim to not sell that generation any more. Is it possible someone bought them and the system was never updated or there in a box in the back?
One even has 4+ of Resident Evil and Monopoly.
One even has 4+ of Resident Evil and Monopoly.
tangytangerine
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[quote name='nyprimus4']I just called up two Gamestops that on the site tracker have tons of awesome ps1 games and possibly n64 stuff. I called up and they claim to not sell that generation any more. Is it possible someone bought them and the system was never updated or there in a box in the back?[/quote]
Could've been they sent them out and forgot to purge the system of any they had in stock. Not the first time that's happened.
Could've been they sent them out and forgot to purge the system of any they had in stock. Not the first time that's happened.
I suspect foul play. Is it worth $4 to check out these Gamestops? I take a subway home that makes 5 stops before mine and these are 2 of them. It's $2 a pop to get back into the subway station. Is it worth $4 to poke around? They sounded like 20 year olds and the way they responded right away means they might have just assumed.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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I too still miss EB Games and especially their stock of used game guides they used to keep in many of their stores. At any given point, I could find 5-10 guides that I wanted to grab and they were only $1-3 each and included some real gems like Silent Hill(both the Prima and the unofficial one) and a couple of other now harder to find ones.
Gamestop, on the other hand, believes in destroying anything which has outlived its potential to make them money and some of the managers and DMs I'm hearing about on these threads makes me think that those managers and DMs are not and never have been gamers.
As a gamer, I tend to kinda well up just thinking about all the games and guides that get chucked and dumped in a landfill every couple months because of GS's own policy. Even if they simply donated them to the local thrift stores(who would sadly charge at least half of retail for some of these items) and allowed other people a CHANCE to buy them, I wouldn't be so annoyed by their policies.
It's sad really, to think that so many items get thrown away when someone could find SOME use for them.
Oh and I definitely gave up on the local EB to even half think of putting back out any games they supposedly still have for PS1, since that's just more crap the underpaid employees have to shift around every couple weeks when their DM tells them to redo the floor plan again.
Every local GS brand store just about seems to shift their shelves around every couple weeks, as if THAT is what is holding back the sales from coming in, when it's their Ebay based pricing on some items that is screwing the company out of money.
Gamestop, on the other hand, believes in destroying anything which has outlived its potential to make them money and some of the managers and DMs I'm hearing about on these threads makes me think that those managers and DMs are not and never have been gamers.
As a gamer, I tend to kinda well up just thinking about all the games and guides that get chucked and dumped in a landfill every couple months because of GS's own policy. Even if they simply donated them to the local thrift stores(who would sadly charge at least half of retail for some of these items) and allowed other people a CHANCE to buy them, I wouldn't be so annoyed by their policies.
It's sad really, to think that so many items get thrown away when someone could find SOME use for them.
Oh and I definitely gave up on the local EB to even half think of putting back out any games they supposedly still have for PS1, since that's just more crap the underpaid employees have to shift around every couple weeks when their DM tells them to redo the floor plan again.
Every local GS brand store just about seems to shift their shelves around every couple weeks, as if THAT is what is holding back the sales from coming in, when it's their Ebay based pricing on some items that is screwing the company out of money.
lucked out today when i went to GS in Westchester Ave in the Bronx. they had harvest moon 64 and dr. mario. they had a few more, so anyone looking for 64 games should head there quick before its gone. i passed on starcraft 64. this is actually the most expensive ive gotten so far.. it came out to 6.99 for harvest moon and dr. mario for 6.24.. but oh well.
[quote name='nyprimus4']I suspect foul play. Is it worth $4 to check out these Gamestops? I take a subway home that makes 5 stops before mine and these are 2 of them. It's $2 a pop to get back into the subway station. Is it worth $4 to poke around? They sounded like 20 year olds and the way they responded right away means they might have just assumed.[/QUOTE]
I would also bet they forgot to purge the games out of the system. That seemed to be the case at my store when I stopped by about a month or two ago and asked about PS1 games I saw as being in stock online that I recalled them having before moving the PS1 games to a dump store. I'd say it's a slim chance they have the stuff forgotten about in the back so it would probably only be worth looking into if you happen to be by the store.
[quote name='phear3d']lucked out today when i went to GS in Westchester Ave in the Bronx. they had harvest moon 64 and dr. mario. they had a few more, so anyone looking for 64 games should head there quick before its gone. i passed on starcraft 64. this is actually the most expensive ive gotten so far.. it came out to 6.99 for harvest moon and dr. mario for 6.24.. but oh well.[/QUOTE]
Should have grabbed Starcraft 64 if you had ANY interest in it if it was about the same price or less. I wouldn't mind finding a copy but probably wouldn't go the eBay route as the cheapest you would probably get it at on a lower priced auction would be about $15 from what I've seen lately.
I would also bet they forgot to purge the games out of the system. That seemed to be the case at my store when I stopped by about a month or two ago and asked about PS1 games I saw as being in stock online that I recalled them having before moving the PS1 games to a dump store. I'd say it's a slim chance they have the stuff forgotten about in the back so it would probably only be worth looking into if you happen to be by the store.
[quote name='phear3d']lucked out today when i went to GS in Westchester Ave in the Bronx. they had harvest moon 64 and dr. mario. they had a few more, so anyone looking for 64 games should head there quick before its gone. i passed on starcraft 64. this is actually the most expensive ive gotten so far.. it came out to 6.99 for harvest moon and dr. mario for 6.24.. but oh well.[/QUOTE]
Should have grabbed Starcraft 64 if you had ANY interest in it if it was about the same price or less. I wouldn't mind finding a copy but probably wouldn't go the eBay route as the cheapest you would probably get it at on a lower priced auction would be about $15 from what I've seen lately.
[quote name='FOnewearl']
Should have grabbed Starcraft 64 if you had ANY interest in it if it was about the same price or less. I wouldn't mind finding a copy but probably wouldn't go the eBay route as the cheapest you would probably get it at on a lower priced auction would be about $15 from what I've seen lately.[/quote]
the problem was i didnt have enough on me at the time. i really should have but i couldnt pre-order any games (i had to cause they told me to to get the penny guides i got).
Should have grabbed Starcraft 64 if you had ANY interest in it if it was about the same price or less. I wouldn't mind finding a copy but probably wouldn't go the eBay route as the cheapest you would probably get it at on a lower priced auction would be about $15 from what I've seen lately.[/quote]
the problem was i didnt have enough on me at the time. i really should have but i couldnt pre-order any games (i had to cause they told me to to get the penny guides i got).
[quote name='nyprimus4']I'm stopping at one of the Gamestops tomorrow. Whats $2? Especially when they show Lunar Silver Star Story in stock, as well as lots of other ps1 games.[/QUOTE]
Good Luck hopefully it works out for you
I guess when you put it like that it may be worth giving it a shot if they are going to have alot of good stuff if it turns out for the better.
Good Luck hopefully it works out for you
I guess when you put it like that it may be worth giving it a shot if they are going to have alot of good stuff if it turns out for the better.
The GameStop I usually hit up on for PSOne and N64 games gave me a heads up that they were going to be shipping out all their N64 games to another store and that if I wanted to grab some stuff, I'd have better done it before tomorrow.
Went, grabbed what I could (games that were actually good), bought and brought them home. May seem like hoarding, but if I'm telling you guys about it, then obviously it's for the good of some people who can't find some of this stuff here that may be interested. Most of this stuff is extras for myself and I felt some of you might be interested in 'em. Everything in red is for my personal collection.
Blast Corps
Bomberman 64
Bomberman Hero
Castlevania
Castlevania Legends
Cruis 'n USA
Cruis 'n World
Doom 64
Excitebike 64
Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko
Gex 64: Enter the Gecko
Glover
Goemon's Great Adventure
Goldeneye 007 (x4, one for me and three copies for anyone else)
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Player's Choice; faded as hell label)
Mario Golf
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party (with
ed up label)
Mario Tennis (x2)
Mega Man 64
Namco Museum 64
Pokémon Puzzle League
Pokémon Stadium
Quake II
Snowboard Kids 2
Star Fox 64
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Super Mario 64 (x3)
Super Smash Bros (withed up label)
Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story
Normally, all of that would have cost me over $500 at most. Total rang up to being under just $100 with the Edge Card and 75% off.
Went, grabbed what I could (games that were actually good), bought and brought them home. May seem like hoarding, but if I'm telling you guys about it, then obviously it's for the good of some people who can't find some of this stuff here that may be interested.
Most of this stuff is extras for myself and I felt some of you might be interested in 'em. Everything in red is for my personal collection.Blast Corps
Bomberman 64
Bomberman Hero
Castlevania
Castlevania Legends
Cruis 'n USA
Cruis 'n World
Doom 64
Excitebike 64
Gex 3: Deep Cover Gecko
Gex 64: Enter the Gecko
Glover
Goemon's Great Adventure
Goldeneye 007 (x4, one for me and three copies for anyone else)
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Player's Choice; faded as hell label)
Mario Golf
Mario Kart 64
Mario Party (with
ed up label)Mario Tennis (x2)
Mega Man 64
Namco Museum 64
Pokémon Puzzle League
Pokémon Stadium
Quake II
Snowboard Kids 2
Star Fox 64
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
Super Mario 64 (x3)
Super Smash Bros (with
ed up label)Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story
Normally, all of that would have cost me over $500 at most. Total rang up to being under just $100 with the Edge Card and 75% off.
Please with cherry on top. I remember playing that with my brother and our friends in 4th grade. It was so awesome. It is going to be a nessecity when I set up my game room this week and I'll have my 360 and N64 all hooked up. I need Snowboard Kids 2!!!!!
Toke2Choke
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can someone please tell me where you can check to see what your store has in stock without actually going there? I seen some people talking about it but I cant find it on the ebgames.com site. I would go to my local one but my car is in the shop and its a 40+ minute walk each way.
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[quote name='Toke2Choke']can someone please tell me where you can check to see what your store has in stock without actually going there? I seen some people talking about it but I cant find it on the ebgames.com site. I would go to my local one but my car is in the shop and its a 40+ minute walk each way.[/quote]
Do a search on their website for whatever game you're looking for. Towards the bottom of the page there should something to click on that says "Show backordered used products that may be available in stores." After that, click on whichever game, then on the next page there should be a place to enter your zip code to check store availability.
Do a search on their website for whatever game you're looking for. Towards the bottom of the page there should something to click on that says "Show backordered used products that may be available in stores." After that, click on whichever game, then on the next page there should be a place to enter your zip code to check store availability.
Score again!
A winner is me.
D=disc only
DM=disc + manual
S=sealed
C=complete
Saga Frontier - S
Saga Frontier - C
Dead or Alive - DM
Rampage Through Time - D
King's Field - D
Broken Sword II - D
Gran Turismo 2 x2 - S
.,..and a bit more, but finding a sealed Saga Frontier II? Score.
A winner is me.
D=disc only
DM=disc + manual
S=sealed
C=complete
Saga Frontier - S
Saga Frontier - C
Dead or Alive - DM
Rampage Through Time - D
King's Field - D
Broken Sword II - D
Gran Turismo 2 x2 - S
.,..and a bit more, but finding a sealed Saga Frontier II? Score.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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I hate that their online system is so ed up that stuff shows as IN STOCK, when in fact they may have not had ANY of these games for possibly YEARS now.
The people at my local EB said to check back in a couple weeks(a couple weeks ago) about the PS1 games they supposedly had in the back in box, but I'm guessing that they just meant the woefully small shoebox that they had in store with a couple C&C games and a few other non Madden titles and the rest being a complete run of the Madden series on PS1. So, I doubt I'll waste my time.
Still looking for a copy of Intelligent Qube that won't have me assraped for Fleabay prices for it, but I doubt that'll ever happen in my lifetime.
I did find a copy locally, at the one game/movie shop that carries older gen stuff, but the guy who owns it wants full retail for the damned thing and had a $40 used copy of the original Silent Hill right next to it. So, suffice to say, it's really NOT looking good for me finding a decently priced(read: CHEAP) copy of the game.
EDIT: Broken Sword II? That's sought after? I saw multiples of that and Heart Of Darkness at one of the further away dump stores I put down a $5 deposit on Transformers(PS2), but thought nothing of them while there.
ed up that stuff shows as IN STOCK, when in fact they may have not had ANY of these games for possibly YEARS now.The people at my local EB said to check back in a couple weeks(a couple weeks ago) about the PS1 games they supposedly had in the back in box, but I'm guessing that they just meant the woefully small shoebox that they had in store with a couple C&C games and a few other non Madden titles and the rest being a complete run of the Madden series on PS1. So, I doubt I'll waste my time.
Still looking for a copy of Intelligent Qube that won't have me assraped for Fleabay prices for it, but I doubt that'll ever happen in my lifetime.
I did find a copy locally, at the one game/movie shop that carries older gen stuff, but the guy who owns it wants full retail for the damned thing and had a $40 used copy of the original Silent Hill right next to it. So, suffice to say, it's really NOT looking good for me finding a decently priced(read: CHEAP) copy of the game.
EDIT: Broken Sword II? That's sought after? I saw multiples of that and Heart Of Darkness at one of the further away dump stores I put down a $5 deposit on Transformers(PS2), but thought nothing of them while there.
since no one replied to my question, lets try again.....
"Does anyone know of any real, legit websites to still buy used N64 games? Other then ebay and amazon and those....I found a site called "usedgames.com" but don't know how legit and trustworthy it is. Does anyone know of any sites still left?"
"Does anyone know of any real, legit websites to still buy used N64 games? Other then ebay and amazon and those....I found a site called "usedgames.com" but don't know how legit and trustworthy it is. Does anyone know of any sites still left?"
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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I finally nabbed some stuff from an out of state dump store. I ended up going with a friend to Paramus, NJ to see that new Michael Moore doc 'Sicko', since it was one of the only newer theaters anywhere within 50-120 miles of us. Closest ones were some older theaters and I don't like those squishy old chairs they have.
Anyway, I picked up the following from the one Paramus GS:
Wing Commander IV Discs 1, 2 and 4(NEED 3 for a reasonable price, if anyone has it) Thing is, these were all in individual disc sleeves, including one marked Chrono Cross.
Also picked up:
GTA London 1969(marked Contender)
Rainbow Six(with back case insert, no manual)
Spyro: Year Of The Dragon
GTA 2
Twisted Metal III
Everything except Spyro, Rainbow Six and Wing Commander IV are up for trade. Definitely want to complete WC 4 if possible. It sucks, since I had all of the WC games for PS1, but when I switched to the PS2, I got rid of most, if not all, of my PS1 games.
They also had some of the discs from the XFiles PS1 game in stock, as well as numerous copies of Driver and Driver 2, so it's NOT all Madden games there, for those close enough to hit that store before that's ALL that IS left.
Anyway, I picked up the following from the one Paramus GS:
Wing Commander IV Discs 1, 2 and 4(NEED 3 for a reasonable price, if anyone has it) Thing is, these were all in individual disc sleeves, including one marked Chrono Cross.
Also picked up:
GTA London 1969(marked Contender)
Rainbow Six(with back case insert, no manual)
Spyro: Year Of The Dragon
GTA 2
Twisted Metal III
Everything except Spyro, Rainbow Six and Wing Commander IV are up for trade. Definitely want to complete WC 4 if possible. It sucks, since I had all of the WC games for PS1, but when I switched to the PS2, I got rid of most, if not all, of my PS1 games.
They also had some of the discs from the XFiles PS1 game in stock, as well as numerous copies of Driver and Driver 2, so it's NOT all Madden games there, for those close enough to hit that store before that's ALL that IS left.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I finally nabbed some stuff from an out of state dump store. I ended up going with a friend to Paramus, NJ [/quote]
yeah they have been for awhile. i got alot of gems there last year like Alundra, Legend of Mana (sealed), and alot more i cant remember that i already sold. but that was pre-75% oh they had 75% off dreamcast games last year, that was excellent. $1.49 Dc games. the store now sucks since all the old stuff is gone and vanishing.
yeah they have been for awhile. i got alot of gems there last year like Alundra, Legend of Mana (sealed), and alot more i cant remember that i already sold
. but that was pre-75% oh they had 75% off dreamcast games last year, that was excellent. $1.49 Dc games. the store now sucks since all the old stuff is gone and vanishing.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
Banned
[quote name='nyprimus4']How was Sicko?[/quote]
Sicko was funny in spots, but just outrageous(due to the lack of caring on the insurance companies part) in some other spots and downright sad/depressing in other parts.
For example, the one woman was told by people at a hospital that they couldn't treat her daughter there because they weren't listed on her insurance as in network. Her daughter died of cardiac arrest at the other hospital after she waited and hoped they would treat her at the first.
Also, the one woman(who was a volunteer at Ground Zero and did search and rescue/recovery there was on an inhaler which, in the US, cost $120 for ONE.
They went to Cuba and guess what it cost there with their socialized medicine program?? FIVE CENTS!!!!
The film had many tearing up throughout and laughing at some of the clips of Bush they played throughout. They used the Bush clip about 'ob/gyn's not being able to practice their love with women' or some such fumble on his part. Everyone laughed at that, to say the least.
On topic though, anyone have Disc 3 of Wing Commander 4 that I could grab?
Sicko was funny in spots, but just outrageous(due to the lack of caring on the insurance companies part) in some other spots and downright sad/depressing in other parts.
For example, the one woman was told by people at a hospital that they couldn't treat her daughter there because they weren't listed on her insurance as in network. Her daughter died of cardiac arrest at the other hospital after she waited and hoped they would treat her at the first.
Also, the one woman(who was a volunteer at Ground Zero and did search and rescue/recovery there was on an inhaler which, in the US, cost $120 for ONE.
They went to Cuba and guess what it cost there with their socialized medicine program?? FIVE CENTS!!!!
The film had many tearing up throughout and laughing at some of the clips of Bush they played throughout. They used the Bush clip about 'ob/gyn's not being able to practice their love with women' or some such fumble on his part. Everyone laughed at that, to say the least.
On topic though, anyone have Disc 3 of Wing Commander 4 that I could grab?
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']They went to Cuba and guess what it cost there with their socialized medicine program?? FIVE CENTS!!!!
On topic though, anyone have Disc 3 of Wing Commander 4 that I could grab?[/QUOTE]
I don't want to turn this into a political discussion but I had to interject. Michael Moore champions Cuba's health care system but he does so through his deliberate way of only showing what serves his purpose. He doesn't mention the fact that things like food and clean sheets in hospitals are not a given. I find it horrific that anyone would want to emulate Cuba especially if you consider the fact that it is the result of Cuban oppression. Yes, care is cheap but in large part because they don't allow the doctors to be paid properly. I for one want my doctor to make more money than a janitor and I'll gladly pay the difference. That's one reason why despite America's many problems with health care we are still a major innovator when it comes to new medicines, surgeries and other innovations. Castro has made health care a priority and given the focus on priorities and his control over the country you'd hope he had some success. However, much like the Soviets did with their space program he also has done a good job of making Cuban health care look better than it really is. Anyone here want to go to Cuba to get health care?
As far as Wing Commander IV, I picked up a mint/complete copy a while back (well the booklet seems to have been read a bit but no scratches on the CDs) but I'm probably going to be keeping that for myself. Given that fact I probably shouldn't have mentioned it but I wanted to get back on topic...
On topic though, anyone have Disc 3 of Wing Commander 4 that I could grab?[/QUOTE]
I don't want to turn this into a political discussion but I had to interject. Michael Moore champions Cuba's health care system but he does so through his deliberate way of only showing what serves his purpose. He doesn't mention the fact that things like food and clean sheets in hospitals are not a given. I find it horrific that anyone would want to emulate Cuba especially if you consider the fact that it is the result of Cuban oppression. Yes, care is cheap but in large part because they don't allow the doctors to be paid properly. I for one want my doctor to make more money than a janitor and I'll gladly pay the difference. That's one reason why despite America's many problems with health care we are still a major innovator when it comes to new medicines, surgeries and other innovations. Castro has made health care a priority and given the focus on priorities and his control over the country you'd hope he had some success. However, much like the Soviets did with their space program he also has done a good job of making Cuban health care look better than it really is. Anyone here want to go to Cuba to get health care?
As far as Wing Commander IV, I picked up a mint/complete copy a while back (well the booklet seems to have been read a bit but no scratches on the CDs) but I'm probably going to be keeping that for myself. Given that fact I probably shouldn't have mentioned it but I wanted to get back on topic...
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i found a copy of intelligent qube at a local non eb store for 5$ i grabbed it quickly with another game for 5$ and since the guy is awesome he sold me both for 8$
and where are guys going on the website to see what stores have in stock?
and where are guys going on the website to see what stores have in stock?
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[quote name='KrAzY3'] He doesn't mention the fact that things like food and clean sheets in hospitals are not a given. Yes, care is cheap but in large part because they don't allow the doctors to be paid properly. I for one want my doctor to make more money than a janitor and I'll gladly pay the difference. That's one reason why despite America's many problems with health care we are still a major innovator when it comes to new medicines, surgeries and other innovations. Anyone here want to go to Cuba to get health care?
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So, you mean you'd rather that your doctor pumps out about 100 patients a day, has about as good a bedside manner as a jackyl and is able to 'afford' that Mercedes and all of the other things that puts him in the higher tax bracket? Many doctors here act like their offices are like an assembly line anymore, which is plain WRONG in my opinion. I usually wait till I feel like hell to go see a doctor because I am one of the 50 mill without health insurance, so if I go to a doctor, I wanna get the most for my money I'm overspending.
New medicines? If you notice, many people are never truly 'cured' of their cancer or other expensive to treat diseases in this country. WHY? Because, they're like a money train constantly pumping money into these greedy corps. If it costs more to treat than to cure, which would you do as a for-profit business?
And, no food or clean sheets in the hospitals in Cuba? They do that around here sometime too. My grandfather was super hungry when we took him to the ER the one night and it took them 18 hours to give him anything to eat. As for the no clean sheets, I've found more than a few stains, some which looked fresh, on the sheets at local hospital ERs when I had to visit them myself, so the whole 'no clean sheets/food' thing is just a nice scare tactic.
And personally, even though he kept misdiagnosing her and my grandmom died of cancer soon after she stopped seeing him, I miss our old family doc, who actually treated his patients like individuals, not an insurance number and more money walking through his door. THAT is the major problem with healthcare in this country nowadays.
Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?
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So, you mean you'd rather that your doctor pumps out about 100 patients a day, has about as good a bedside manner as a jackyl and is able to 'afford' that Mercedes and all of the other things that puts him in the higher tax bracket? Many doctors here act like their offices are like an assembly line anymore, which is plain WRONG in my opinion. I usually wait till I feel like hell to go see a doctor because I am one of the 50 mill without health insurance, so if I go to a doctor, I wanna get the most for my money I'm overspending.
New medicines? If you notice, many people are never truly 'cured' of their cancer or other expensive to treat diseases in this country. WHY? Because, they're like a money train constantly pumping money into these greedy corps. If it costs more to treat than to cure, which would you do as a for-profit business?
And, no food or clean sheets in the hospitals in Cuba? They do that around here sometime too. My grandfather was super hungry when we took him to the ER the one night and it took them 18 hours to give him anything to eat. As for the no clean sheets, I've found more than a few stains, some which looked fresh, on the sheets at local hospital ERs when I had to visit them myself, so the whole 'no clean sheets/food' thing is just a nice scare tactic.
And personally, even though he kept misdiagnosing her and my grandmom died of cancer soon after she stopped seeing him, I miss our old family doc, who actually treated his patients like individuals, not an insurance number and more money walking through his door. THAT is the major problem with healthcare in this country nowadays.
Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?
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You're entitled to your own opinion, but Moore outright lied about most of his stats in the movie. Even people defending him point out that he only 'exagerated' some numbers by 20-30%. If I 'exagerated' my income by only 20-30%, I don't think the IRS would turn a blind eye to it.
If you look at the list he shows about where the US is compared to other countries, Cuba is listed several numbers lower then the US. The US also has the highest patient satisfaction on that study in the world(he forgot to mention that) and second best in waiting time(1st is Germany) Moore also seems blissfully unaware of the fact that he was in a hospital for members of the Party, and that the rank and file people of cuba don't get the exagerated coverage the communist party tried to point out in their propoganda piece.
The health system in this country is screwed up beyond belief, but it's not the fault of doctors. It's the fault of HMO's and their bureacracy which they create. I applaud Moore for getting people to discuss this, but like everything else he's done, this doc is filled with omissions and outright lies he uses to push his own far left agenda. If he cared so much about the people he 'helped', why didn't he go to Germany, or a country with a health care standard higher then the US?
Sorry, I had to rant.
If you look at the list he shows about where the US is compared to other countries, Cuba is listed several numbers lower then the US. The US also has the highest patient satisfaction on that study in the world(he forgot to mention that) and second best in waiting time(1st is Germany) Moore also seems blissfully unaware of the fact that he was in a hospital for members of the Party, and that the rank and file people of cuba don't get the exagerated coverage the communist party tried to point out in their propoganda piece.
The health system in this country is screwed up beyond belief, but it's not the fault of doctors. It's the fault of HMO's and their bureacracy which they create. I applaud Moore for getting people to discuss this, but like everything else he's done, this doc is filled with omissions and outright lies he uses to push his own far left agenda. If he cared so much about the people he 'helped', why didn't he go to Germany, or a country with a health care standard higher then the US?
Sorry, I had to rant.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']So, you mean you'd rather that your doctor pumps out about 100 patients a day, has about as good a bedside manner as a jackyl and is able to 'afford' that Mercedes and all of the other things that puts him in the higher tax bracket? Many doctors here act like their offices are like an assembly line anymore, which is plain WRONG in my opinion. I usually wait till I feel like hell to go see a doctor because I am one of the 50 mill without health insurance, so if I go to a doctor, I wanna get the most for my money I'm overspending.
New medicines? If you notice, many people are never truly 'cured' of their cancer or other expensive to treat diseases in this country. WHY? Because, they're like a money train constantly pumping money into these greedy corps. If it costs more to treat than to cure, which would you do as a for-profit business?
Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?[/QUOTE]
I find it ironic that you mention pumping out patients, that is exactly what socialized medicine does. I know of some "private" doctors that are free to choose who they treat and charge as they see fit that only do one major job per day. My wife is German and complained about the complete lack of attention she got under the socialized health care, she once waited a couple months for a doctor visit that was 5 minutes long and the doctor didn't even look at what was bothering her. She states that American doctors are more attentive.
As far as advancements, I won't approve of everything that is done. However, my mother and father died of cancer and you know what? I'm damn glad my wife is in a country that is making some breakthroughs in medical science. My wife had a scare and she was able to get proper care. She had a MRI, the whole nine. Guess what? CUBA ONLY HAS TWO MRI MACHINES!!! I'll take good old American greed and the resulting advancements.
[quote name='deathscythehe']If he cared so much about the people he 'helped', why didn't he go to Germany, or a country with a health care standard higher then the US?
Sorry, I had to rant.[/QUOTE]
Not trying to argue, I agree with most of what you said. However, having lived in Germany and being married to a German I had to elaborate a little more. I and my wife prefer American health care to German health care. Yes, it is more "affordable" but the best care is still private and comes 100% out of pocket or through higher level private health insurance that only the more affluent are even eligible for. I do have reason to believe that the German health care is much better than Cubas, however it would seem both haven't mastered the art of things like air conditioners...
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?[/QUOTE]
I'd have to blame Gamestop for it getting to the point it has. When they offered the same price for a complete game or a disc only it made it pointless for many people to trade the games in whith everything. I've always done that but why should I other than morality?
New medicines? If you notice, many people are never truly 'cured' of their cancer or other expensive to treat diseases in this country. WHY? Because, they're like a money train constantly pumping money into these greedy corps. If it costs more to treat than to cure, which would you do as a for-profit business?
Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?[/QUOTE]
I find it ironic that you mention pumping out patients, that is exactly what socialized medicine does. I know of some "private" doctors that are free to choose who they treat and charge as they see fit that only do one major job per day. My wife is German and complained about the complete lack of attention she got under the socialized health care, she once waited a couple months for a doctor visit that was 5 minutes long and the doctor didn't even look at what was bothering her. She states that American doctors are more attentive.
As far as advancements, I won't approve of everything that is done. However, my mother and father died of cancer and you know what? I'm damn glad my wife is in a country that is making some breakthroughs in medical science. My wife had a scare and she was able to get proper care. She had a MRI, the whole nine. Guess what? CUBA ONLY HAS TWO MRI MACHINES!!! I'll take good old American greed and the resulting advancements.
[quote name='deathscythehe']If he cared so much about the people he 'helped', why didn't he go to Germany, or a country with a health care standard higher then the US?
Sorry, I had to rant.[/QUOTE]
Not trying to argue, I agree with most of what you said. However, having lived in Germany and being married to a German I had to elaborate a little more. I and my wife prefer American health care to German health care. Yes, it is more "affordable" but the best care is still private and comes 100% out of pocket or through higher level private health insurance that only the more affluent are even eligible for. I do have reason to believe that the German health care is much better than Cubas, however it would seem both haven't mastered the art of things like air conditioners...
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Back on topic though, why can't I seem to find any GOOD games that are complete or mint anymore. I guess karma gave me just one (Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance II for Xbox) and that was it for me, huh?[/QUOTE]
I'd have to blame Gamestop for it getting to the point it has. When they offered the same price for a complete game or a disc only it made it pointless for many people to trade the games in whith everything. I've always done that but why should I other than morality?
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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If you look at the list he shows about where the US is compared to other countries, Cuba is listed several numbers lower then the US. The US also has the highest patient satisfaction on that study in the world(he forgot to mention that) and second best in waiting time(1st is Germany)[/quote]
Highest patient satisfaction? When it costs $10 for twoin aspirin in the ER if all they find out is that you have a headache? that! Oh and around here, even when the ER is completely DEAD, it takes you no less than 2-3 hours to get in and once you're seen, it takes them 12-13 hours just to in release you. To me, that's bullshit, just like the prices they charge.
My old family doc used to charge $20-25 and would NOT take ANY health insurance whatsoever. No money, go to the hospital. If places charged FAIR prices instead of soaking you for every little thing, this system might work ALOT better.
The only really 'cheap' drug you can get from a pharmacy without health insurance that won't have you paying over $10-20 is antibiotics. Scary, to think if I need something to help with the flu, that I could die sooner than find affordable drugs. Honestly, once drugs are out and have made their R&D costs back and have made their companies some profit, they should be dropped to a much more reasonable price to let everyone(even those without insurance) benefit from them.
I personally wouldn't mind trying out the socialized healthcare, but I'd have to go to Canada or one of the other places mentioned in the film to experience it, because quite frankly the system in this country sucks and the doctors and insurance companies are profiteers.
If you look at the list he shows about where the US is compared to other countries, Cuba is listed several numbers lower then the US. The US also has the highest patient satisfaction on that study in the world(he forgot to mention that) and second best in waiting time(1st is Germany)[/quote]
Highest patient satisfaction? When it costs $10 for two
in aspirin in the ER if all they find out is that you have a headache? that! Oh and around here, even when the ER is completely DEAD, it takes you no less than 2-3 hours to get in and once you're seen, it takes them 12-13 hours just to in release you. To me, that's bullshit, just like the prices they charge.My old family doc used to charge $20-25 and would NOT take ANY health insurance whatsoever. No money, go to the hospital. If places charged FAIR prices instead of soaking you for every little thing, this system might work ALOT better.
The only really 'cheap' drug you can get from a pharmacy without health insurance that won't have you paying over $10-20 is antibiotics. Scary, to think if I need something to help with the flu, that I could die sooner than find affordable drugs. Honestly, once drugs are out and have made their R&D costs back and have made their companies some profit, they should be dropped to a much more reasonable price to let everyone(even those without insurance) benefit from them.
I personally wouldn't mind trying out the socialized healthcare, but I'd have to go to Canada or one of the other places mentioned in the film to experience it, because quite frankly the system in this country sucks and the doctors and insurance companies are profiteers.
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The point you make KrAzY3 about Germany is very important to mention. Even in these socialized systems, the best health care (big surprise) has to be paid for out of pocket with supplemental health insurance. The head of a CEO isn't going to wait in line with his workers after all.
As far as the US having the highest patient satisfaction, I'm not making the survey up.
Take a look at this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
"Sicko" also ignores a handful of good things about the American system. Believe it or not, the United States does rank highest in the patient satisfaction category. Americans do have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when it comes to nonemergency elective surgery such as hip replacements, cataract removal or knee repair.
As far as the US having the highest patient satisfaction, I'm not making the survey up.
Take a look at this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
"Sicko" also ignores a handful of good things about the American system. Believe it or not, the United States does rank highest in the patient satisfaction category. Americans do have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when it comes to nonemergency elective surgery such as hip replacements, cataract removal or knee repair.
IAmTheCheapestGamer, I understand you being unhappy with certain things but it sounds like you are mainly complaining about the ER. Part of the problem is that people go to the emergency room even when they don't have a emergency. If anyone goes to the ER because they have a headache then the problem isn't health care...
I also completely disagree with your assertions about getting drugs without health insurance. I can name several drugs that cost less than 10 dollars, some even less than 5 dollars. My wife has three prescriptions and only one costs more than 15 dollars (without health insurance). Part of the problem is some pharmacies charging a minimum of 15, so I suggest you try a place that doesn't have a minimum. Also, I have filled prescriptions without health insurance and I was able to pay less than 15 as well. There are tons and tons of cheap drugs... I'm pretty sure I pay less than a dollar for my bottle of aspirin as well. However, some of the best drugs are very expensive and I'm not in a position to argue. It is their product, it wouldn't exist otherwise. I'd rather them charge a million a pill than for it to never exist. I want them to be filthy rich so they get greedy and try to find other pills to make them richer. This is why other countries have a habit of waiting until we make new medicines then copying them. We are talking about things that would not exist if not for us so how can anyone compare us to Cuba then complain about drugs Cuba could and would never make?
Finally, I know I'm taking this topic deep into the realms of politics but I can't resist... you mentioned that you do not have health insurance? You apparently have a computer, the internet, tons of games, several gaming systems and no job. Well, in Cuba you would do without those things but you would have health care (not so sure about the work part, I haven't looked into what they do to people that refuse to work). Then again, if you really wanted to prioritize you could have health insurance. I do not personally know of anyone without health insurance that completely lacked the means to get it, they just had different priorities. I didn't have health insurance, and during that time I bought a lot more video games. I changed priorities and I now get less video games. I don't see the advantage to losing that choice altogether. Having said all that, I will reiterate that there are things that could and should be changed but if our health care system becomes socialized, quality of care as a whole WILL suffer.
I also completely disagree with your assertions about getting drugs without health insurance. I can name several drugs that cost less than 10 dollars, some even less than 5 dollars. My wife has three prescriptions and only one costs more than 15 dollars (without health insurance). Part of the problem is some pharmacies charging a minimum of 15, so I suggest you try a place that doesn't have a minimum. Also, I have filled prescriptions without health insurance and I was able to pay less than 15 as well. There are tons and tons of cheap drugs... I'm pretty sure I pay less than a dollar for my bottle of aspirin as well. However, some of the best drugs are very expensive and I'm not in a position to argue. It is their product, it wouldn't exist otherwise. I'd rather them charge a million a pill than for it to never exist. I want them to be filthy rich so they get greedy and try to find other pills to make them richer. This is why other countries have a habit of waiting until we make new medicines then copying them. We are talking about things that would not exist if not for us so how can anyone compare us to Cuba then complain about drugs Cuba could and would never make?
Finally, I know I'm taking this topic deep into the realms of politics but I can't resist... you mentioned that you do not have health insurance? You apparently have a computer, the internet, tons of games, several gaming systems and no job. Well, in Cuba you would do without those things but you would have health care (not so sure about the work part, I haven't looked into what they do to people that refuse to work). Then again, if you really wanted to prioritize you could have health insurance. I do not personally know of anyone without health insurance that completely lacked the means to get it, they just had different priorities. I didn't have health insurance, and during that time I bought a lot more video games. I changed priorities and I now get less video games. I don't see the advantage to losing that choice altogether. Having said all that, I will reiterate that there are things that could and should be changed but if our health care system becomes socialized, quality of care as a whole WILL suffer.
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[quote name='KrAzY3'] I'd rather them charge a million a pill than for it to never exist. I want them to be filthy rich so they get greedy and try to find other pills to make them richer.
Finally, I know I'm taking this topic deep into the realms of politics but I can't resist... you mentioned that you do not have health insurance? You apparently have a computer, the internet, tons of games, several gaming systems and no job. Well, in Cuba you would do without those things but you would have health care (not so sure about the work part, I haven't looked into what they do to people that refuse to work). Then again, if you really wanted to prioritize you could have health insurance. I do not personally know of anyone without health insurance that completely lacked the means to get it, they just had different priorities. [/quote]
When my insurance rate rose from $75-80 to $160+ within a YEAR, while the company held onto HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in 'reserves', not only myself but MANY others were quite pissed off with them.
They always claimed they needed the reserves and to raise the rates to 'pay for the new tech and medicines coming out', yet I'm sure many of those cockroaches who review medical cases to determine neccessity probably denied MANY peoples claims as experimental and cost those people untold heartache and financial losses.
When their CEOs are being compensated in the MILLIONS of dollars, that too imo is bullshit because MANY of these entities claim non profit status.
You want them to charge a million for a pill, just so they would know they could make money on them and make more? You are a fan of the profiteering, aren't you?
Also, you ASSUME I don't have a job, yet know NOTHING about me. That's the greatest thing about internet message boards, you can ASSUME things about people and for all you know in your little mind, they are true, right?
When my insurance rates, which I paid for out of pocket because NO employers around here even guarantee healthcare anymore, rose due to their bullshit reasons, I just said 'f it' and stopped paying for it, since even the most basic care was suddenly being denied at the new rates.
So, it's not so much that I don't want insurance, it's just that I don't feel I need to pay the highway robbery like rates they are charging, while they are swimming in those huge reserves that they don't use to do what they should with them: keep the rates reasonable for those with limited means to pay for their jacked up crap .
When it becomes a choice between food or paying the excessive charge each month for healthcare, which has so many exclusions and loopholes and otherwise 'items not covered', it really is NO choice at all. I'd rather eat and be full and happy, than pay for healthcare and get told my claim was denied because I didn't get stuff preapproved when I woke up at 3 am in severe pain and could barely talk or stand, let alone call some cockroach at the 'health' plan to find out if I'm covered.
Finally, I know I'm taking this topic deep into the realms of politics but I can't resist... you mentioned that you do not have health insurance? You apparently have a computer, the internet, tons of games, several gaming systems and no job. Well, in Cuba you would do without those things but you would have health care (not so sure about the work part, I haven't looked into what they do to people that refuse to work). Then again, if you really wanted to prioritize you could have health insurance. I do not personally know of anyone without health insurance that completely lacked the means to get it, they just had different priorities. [/quote]
When my insurance rate rose from $75-80 to $160+ within a YEAR, while the company held onto HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in 'reserves', not only myself but MANY others were quite pissed off with them.
They always claimed they needed the reserves and to raise the rates to 'pay for the new tech and medicines coming out', yet I'm sure many of those cockroaches who review medical cases to determine neccessity probably denied MANY peoples claims as experimental and cost those people untold heartache and financial losses.
When their CEOs are being compensated in the MILLIONS of dollars, that too imo is bullshit because MANY of these entities claim non profit status.
You want them to charge a million for a pill, just so they would know they could make money on them and make more? You are a fan of the profiteering, aren't you?
Also, you ASSUME I don't have a job, yet know NOTHING about me. That's the greatest thing about internet message boards, you can ASSUME things about people and for all you know in your little mind, they are true, right?
When my insurance rates, which I paid for out of pocket because NO employers around here even guarantee healthcare anymore, rose due to their bullshit reasons, I just said 'f it' and stopped paying for it, since even the most basic care was suddenly being denied at the new rates.
So, it's not so much that I don't want insurance, it's just that I don't feel I need to pay the highway robbery like rates they are charging, while they are swimming in those huge reserves that they don't use to do what they should with them: keep the rates reasonable for those with limited means to pay for their jacked up crap .
When it becomes a choice between food or paying the excessive charge each month for healthcare, which has so many exclusions and loopholes and otherwise 'items not covered', it really is NO choice at all. I'd rather eat and be full and happy, than pay for healthcare and get told my claim was denied because I didn't get stuff preapproved when I woke up at 3 am in severe pain and could barely talk or stand, let alone call some cockroach at the 'health' plan to find out if I'm covered.
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The point you make KrAzY3 about Germany is very important to mention. Even in these socialized systems, the best health care (big surprise) has to be paid for out of pocket with supplemental health insurance. The head of a CEO isn't going to wait in line with his workers after all.
As far as the US having the highest patient satisfaction, I'm not making the survey up.
Take a look at this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
"Sicko" also ignores a handful of good things about the American system. Believe it or not, the United States does rank highest in the patient satisfaction category. Americans do have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when it comes to nonemergency elective surgery such as hip replacements, cataract removal or knee repair.
As far as the US having the highest patient satisfaction, I'm not making the survey up.
Take a look at this
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/06/28/sicko.fact.check/index.html
"Sicko" also ignores a handful of good things about the American system. Believe it or not, the United States does rank highest in the patient satisfaction category. Americans do have shorter wait times than everyone but Germans when it comes to nonemergency elective surgery such as hip replacements, cataract removal or knee repair.
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Found a store in Georgia that had some games in stock earlier this week. Had a case for a DDR PS1 game on the rack but they said they couldn't find it. Picked up Rainbow 6 and Rainbow 6 Rogue Spear for the Dreamcast, Griffey Slugfest for the N64, possibly 2 of the the worst PS1 games ever in Courier Crisis and Shadow Man, Scooby Doo and the Cyber Chase (PS1), ad You Don't Know Jack Mock 2 (PS1). 6 bucks and change for the lot.
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wow, holy , this thread is about Sicko?!
anyway, there's a PS1 with an LCD at a GS near my parents' house. full price though :\
, this thread is about Sicko?!anyway, there's a PS1 with an LCD at a GS near my parents' house. full price though :\
SmarterDeals
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[quote name='SmarterDeals']www.SmarterDeals.com is a price comparison engine to compare price for Computer Hardware, Software, Electronics, Digital Camera, Camcorder, Camcorder Accessories, Computer Cables and Accessories, Games, Xbox 360, DVD Player, Celphone Accessories, GPS, GPS Accessories, Video Recorder, Notebook Accessories, Flash Memory & Readers, Motherboard Accessories, PDA Accessories.[/quote]
One of our local stores just got like 7 bins full of PS1 games. Or I should say, 7 bins full of sports games.
I looked through 2 of them and kept seeing keywords like Madden, NCAA, NBA, NHL, NFL, etc. I then skimmed the other 5 and it was the same story. All the good stuff is gone I guess.(
I looked through 2 of them and kept seeing keywords like Madden, NCAA, NBA, NHL, NFL, etc. I then skimmed the other 5 and it was the same story. All the good stuff is gone I guess.
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uhh..WTF is going on in here. shrike4242 come back please.
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