80gb PS3 price dropped to $499 (and 40gb announced for Nov. 2)
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[quote name='funjoe']OK, well now I'm getting conflicted (or maybe just confused). So I can use my PS2 controllers with the PS3? Does that include the Guitar Hero controllers?
I have 6 or 7 unopened great PS2 games I still want to get to, and given time constraints it'll probably take me a year to get through them. I'd still be inclined to get the 80G at the same price and keep my PS2 hooked up.[/QUOTE]
No PS2 controller plugs in the PS3. GH controllers will not work on the PS3.
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper
I have 6 or 7 unopened great PS2 games I still want to get to, and given time constraints it'll probably take me a year to get through them. I'd still be inclined to get the 80G at the same price and keep my PS2 hooked up.[/QUOTE]
No PS2 controller plugs in the PS3. GH controllers will not work on the PS3.
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper
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Price of the 80gb has dropped on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-80GB-Motorstorm-Pack/dp/B000TVT8PI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4_s9_rk/105-7824160-3819656?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&s9r=8a585b4314f36a4401151c49471306a4&itemPosition=4&qid=1192725045&sr=8-4
No drop on the 60gb though.
Also the 178% sales increase in the UK should be taken with a pinch of salt as no actual sales numbers were provided for that, so for all we know they could mean sales jumped from 1 to 178 (or whatever, maths was never my strong point).
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3-80GB-Motorstorm-Pack/dp/B000TVT8PI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4_s9_rk/105-7824160-3819656?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&s9r=8a585b4314f36a4401151c49471306a4&itemPosition=4&qid=1192725045&sr=8-4
No drop on the 60gb though.
Also the 178% sales increase in the UK should be taken with a pinch of salt as no actual sales numbers were provided for that, so for all we know they could mean sales jumped from 1 to 178 (or whatever, maths was never my strong point).
[quote name='K_G']
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper[/QUOTE]
Yep, and there will be more games worth playing out, and some current games like Resistance will be cheap by then.
No reason to buy now if you have a backlog on current systems that you think will take a year to get through.
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper[/QUOTE]
Yep, and there will be more games worth playing out, and some current games like Resistance will be cheap by then.
No reason to buy now if you have a backlog on current systems that you think will take a year to get through.
[quote name='K_G']No PS2 controller plugs in the PS3. GH controllers will not work on the PS3.
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper[/QUOTE]
That was my original plan, but I want to pick up the next-gen versions of GH3 and Rock Band next month (I think it will be more cost effective than picking them up for the PS2 and ultimately having to repurchase all the instruments for the PS3 later when the inevitable sequels come out) so feel I might as well pick up the console now.
If you are that backed up with your games, just wait a year and the PS3 will likely be another $100 cheaper[/QUOTE]
That was my original plan, but I want to pick up the next-gen versions of GH3 and Rock Band next month (I think it will be more cost effective than picking them up for the PS2 and ultimately having to repurchase all the instruments for the PS3 later when the inevitable sequels come out) so feel I might as well pick up the console now.
[quote name='funjoe']That was my original plan, but I want to pick up the next-gen versions of GH3 and Rock Band next month (I think it will be more cost effective than picking them up for the PS2 and ultimately having to repurchase all the instruments for the PS3 later when the inevitable sequels come out) so feel I might as well pick up the console now.[/QUOTE]
If that's the case, you likely will want to pick up the 60 for full backward compatibility (motor storm isn't that good in my opinion...I rented it and played it for 30 minutes and felt that I had wasted a good 25 minutes of that time...it looks good but plays for crap)...I don't know if its been confirmed that the PS3 GH controller will work with the PS2 versions of GH1 and GH2 but I don't see why it wouldn't. If that was the case, you could make the move and just sell off the PS2 guitars you have now....but you may want to hold off until off until you get confirmation that the PS3 controller works on GH1 and GH2
If that's the case, you likely will want to pick up the 60 for full backward compatibility (motor storm isn't that good in my opinion...I rented it and played it for 30 minutes and felt that I had wasted a good 25 minutes of that time...it looks good but plays for crap)...I don't know if its been confirmed that the PS3 GH controller will work with the PS2 versions of GH1 and GH2 but I don't see why it wouldn't. If that was the case, you could make the move and just sell off the PS2 guitars you have now....but you may want to hold off until off until you get confirmation that the PS3 controller works on GH1 and GH2
[quote name='K_G']If that's the case, you likely will want to pick up the 60 for full backward compatibility (motor storm isn't that good in my opinion...I rented it and played it for 30 minutes and felt that I had wasted a good 25 minutes of that time...it looks good but plays for crap)...I don't know if its been confirmed that the PS3 GH controller will work with the PS2 versions of GH1 and GH2 but I don't see why it wouldn't. If that was the case, you could make the move and just sell off the PS2 guitars you have now....but you may want to hold off until off until you get confirmation that the PS3 controller works on GH1 and GH2[/QUOTE]
God I hope it does. That'd really make for the ultimate Guitar Hero to purchase. Next gen, but with the ability to play past gen without having to pay over $2 per song. Now I'm kind of pumped for Guitar Hero PS3 if the controller is BC.
God I hope it does. That'd really make for the ultimate Guitar Hero to purchase. Next gen, but with the ability to play past gen without having to pay over $2 per song. Now I'm kind of pumped for Guitar Hero PS3 if the controller is BC.
[quote name='slidecage']
Next year this time Even the Rare ps2 games will be worthless to most people since who wants an older system
SO DUMP YOUR PS2 GAMES NOW
FU sony
EDIT SO THE 80 GB DOESNT PLAY PS2 Games either??[/QUOTE]
think of it this way....of the people complaining about the $500-600 pricetag, how many are gamers who already own a PS2?
Next year this time Even the Rare ps2 games will be worthless to most people since who wants an older system
SO DUMP YOUR PS2 GAMES NOW
FU sony
EDIT SO THE 80 GB DOESNT PLAY PS2 Games either??[/QUOTE]
think of it this way....of the people complaining about the $500-600 pricetag, how many are gamers who already own a PS2?
[quote name='dmaul1114']The PS3 GH3 controller has "partial" compatibility with GH2 and none with GH1.
Not sure what they mean by partial, the article I read didn't elaborate.[/QUOTE]
What the hell? That doesn't even make sense.
ers. I want to play audioslave without having to hook up my PS2.
Ok so I did some searching and I found someone had said that GH1 is fully compatible and GH2 and GH 80s are partially compatible. Who the hell knows what's going on.
Not sure what they mean by partial, the article I read didn't elaborate.[/QUOTE]
What the hell? That doesn't even make sense.
ers. I want to play audioslave without having to hook up my PS2.Ok so I did some searching and I found someone had said that GH1 is fully compatible and GH2 and GH 80s are partially compatible. Who the hell knows what's going on.
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Anybody know what refurbs are going for with the price drop? I was able to score a refurb 20 gig for $370 back in July. I imagine this will knock the price down even further. I grabbed a 100gb hd off of geeks.com for $40, and have been a happy man ever since.
BTW- there's plenty to play on this system- resistance FOM, warhawk, everyday shooter and superstardust are all excellent games. With Ratchet coming out followed by Uncharted and Orange Box- I'll have plenty to keep me busy until the heavy hitters come out next year.
BTW- there's plenty to play on this system- resistance FOM, warhawk, everyday shooter and superstardust are all excellent games. With Ratchet coming out followed by Uncharted and Orange Box- I'll have plenty to keep me busy until the heavy hitters come out next year.
[quote name='RedvsBlue']What the hell? That doesn't even make sense. ers. I want to play audioslave without having to hook up my PS2.
Ok so I did some searching and I found someone had said that GH1 is fully compatible and GH2 and GH 80s are partially compatible. Who the hell knows what's going on.[/QUOTE]
Here, this was posted on the official Guitar Hero forums (the developers site) by the admins:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=28298
ers. I want to play audioslave without having to hook up my PS2.Ok so I did some searching and I found someone had said that GH1 is fully compatible and GH2 and GH 80s are partially compatible. Who the hell knows what's going on.[/QUOTE]
Here, this was posted on the official Guitar Hero forums (the developers site) by the admins:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=28298
[quote name='dahermitt']Can someone list each model (20gb, 40gb, 60gb, 80gb), their price, and list what type of BC each one has. I'm a little confused by these models.[/QUOTE]
20GB- full BC, but not available new anymore.
40GB- 399.99 no BC at all
60GB- 499.99 full BC as it has has the PS2 chips inside, not being made anymore, but still available in stores for the time being
80GB-499.99, partial BC as it's software emulation (like the 360). You can search games and see if they are compatible here (there's probably a list out there somewhere as well).
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus
20GB- full BC, but not available new anymore.
40GB- 399.99 no BC at all
60GB- 499.99 full BC as it has has the PS2 chips inside, not being made anymore, but still available in stores for the time being
80GB-499.99, partial BC as it's software emulation (like the 360). You can search games and see if they are compatible here (there's probably a list out there somewhere as well).
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus
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If the 60 GB drops to $400, then I'll pick that up and give away my 20 GB PS3 to a family member or post it as a prize on the CAG forums if one of my nephews doesn't claim it.
As it stands, I would definitely buy the 60 GB over the 80 GB because the 80 GB is an inferior product.
The ball is in MS court now. They need to drop the core SKU (or make it $239.99), lower the price of the Premium to $299.99 and push the Elite down to about $369.99 or lower.
As it stands, I would definitely buy the 60 GB over the 80 GB because the 80 GB is an inferior product.
The ball is in MS court now. They need to drop the core SKU (or make it $239.99), lower the price of the Premium to $299.99 and push the Elite down to about $369.99 or lower.
[quote name='opportunity777']
The ball is in MS court now. They need to drop the core SKU (or make it $239.99), lower the price of the Premium to $299.99 and push the Elite down to about $369.99 or lower.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that packing in Forza 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance was designed to counter a Sony price drop everyone new was coming this fall.
But they would be smart to also cut prices to the levels you suggest to really deflate the Sony drop. I mean $349 for a Premium with 2 games does look better (to me anyway) than a PS3 with a BR movie for $399, but it would look even better at $299 vs 399.
The ball is in MS court now. They need to drop the core SKU (or make it $239.99), lower the price of the Premium to $299.99 and push the Elite down to about $369.99 or lower.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing that packing in Forza 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance was designed to counter a Sony price drop everyone new was coming this fall.
But they would be smart to also cut prices to the levels you suggest to really deflate the Sony drop. I mean $349 for a Premium with 2 games does look better (to me anyway) than a PS3 with a BR movie for $399, but it would look even better at $299 vs 399.
[quote name='Ogami Itto']Idiot.[/QUOTE]
whatever. go on and save your ps2 games. Good luck dumping them in 2 years or even next year. Look at ps1 games. then again you cant really take the PS2 to PS1 idea since then People could still play ps1 games on their ps2
Most people dont have room for 2 systems and dont even want 2 systems clogging up their space.
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice
whatever. go on and save your ps2 games. Good luck dumping them in 2 years or even next year. Look at ps1 games. then again you cant really take the PS2 to PS1 idea since then People could still play ps1 games on their ps2
Most people dont have room for 2 systems and dont even want 2 systems clogging up their space.
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice
I'm torn on what to do. Having a PS3 with BC would be great, since I have yet to play the Jak series, Rachet series, or God of War I/II (not to mention I want to play ESPN NFL 2K5 again.) However, getting the lowest priced PS3 possible would be nice as well, since the HD is upgradeable (in the rare event I even ran out of room) since I would be using it for PS3 games and Blu-ray...I might as well just wait, since I've got my Xbox 360 and Wii to hold me down, until the PS2 is $99 new (or even less on eBay with people buying a 40 GB PS3!)
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[quote name='SuperFox']I'm torn on what to do. Having a PS3 with BC would be great, since I have yet to play the Jak series, Rachet series, or God of War I/II (not to mention I want to play ESPN NFL 2K5 again.) However, getting the lowest priced PS3 possible would be nice as well, since the HD is upgradeable (in the rare event I even ran out of room) since I would be using it for PS3 games and Blu-ray...I might as well just wait, since I've got my Xbox 360 and Wii to hold me down, until the PS2 is $99 new (or even less on eBay with people buying a 40 GB PS3!)[/QUOTE]
If you only want to play PS2 games and can hold off on Bluray (BR movies are still overpriced), then I would recommend passing on the PS3 until next year. It will be even cheaper. There will be more games available, and Bluray movies will be less expensive. Also, HDDs will be cheaper. You could buy a PS2 to tide you over.
Otherwise, you should just put the money you would spend on a PS2 on top of the $400 for the 40 GB PS3 version and pick up one of the superior models. I would wait and see if the 60 GB falls in price (since the 80 GB is now $500, it's inevitable some retailer will drop the 60 GB price) before spending your hard-earned greenbacks because the 60 GB is the one you should aim to get.
If you only want to play PS2 games and can hold off on Bluray (BR movies are still overpriced), then I would recommend passing on the PS3 until next year. It will be even cheaper. There will be more games available, and Bluray movies will be less expensive. Also, HDDs will be cheaper. You could buy a PS2 to tide you over.
Otherwise, you should just put the money you would spend on a PS2 on top of the $400 for the 40 GB PS3 version and pick up one of the superior models. I would wait and see if the 60 GB falls in price (since the 80 GB is now $500, it's inevitable some retailer will drop the 60 GB price) before spending your hard-earned greenbacks because the 60 GB is the one you should aim to get.
I'm hoping some stores have some good game bundles for the holiday on top of the Sony drop, like Fry's recently had for the 360. The Blu-Ray deals recently were good, but I would rather get a few games with the system than movies.
Hopefully we'll see some good deals for the 60gb model as stores clear them out.
Hopefully we'll see some good deals for the 60gb model as stores clear them out.
[quote name='slidecage']
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
[/quote]
Yes cause all parents know everything about BC and will never buy a system for their kids without it.
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
[/quote]
Yes cause all parents know everything about BC and will never buy a system for their kids without it.
I'm guessing that Sony is hinting that the 60GB is not going down in price, cuz there low in stock, and probably by having the EE chip, still not worth slashing the price as they are trying to recoup their losses. But for me, I'd go for the 60GB over any other PS3 SKU. I'd rather have full 100% BC than 90ish % BC from the other models. And to quote another poster. I still do play some PS1 games from time to time, like the Final Fantasy's, Dragon Warrior's, Breath of Fire's, etc, so 100% BC for me is a must
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Bit the bullet and grabbed a 60gb ($499) at Target today with the 3 year service plan ($30). I've been watching ebay like a hawk for a week and they're going for a minimum of $450 shipped and used to boot! This is a stupid amount of money to spend but I wanted to make sure I had a BC chip.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']Sorry but you are wrong on that one big time. The PS2 was a hit from the start and people were tracking it down like crazy. People wanted them because it was a game system and cost a little more than most nice DVD players at the time. Plus within a year it had some of the biggest game titles to ever hit a console. GTA3, MGS2, and FFX all came out the holiday after release.
Also I guess that they decided not to include Spiderman 3 with the 40 gig, or at least I have not heard any mention of it being included. I hope it is since I have yet to see it and my friend is going to get the 40 gig.[/quote]Hey, thanks for repeating exactly what I already said.
I never said that it wasn't a hit out of the gate. I was talking pure numbers. And I did say that the sheer volume of sales picked up after a year or two. But those numbers were not there out of the gate, even though the console was hard to find. It was hard to find because they didn't launch with many units.
If you attempt to say that PS2 had 12.5 million sales after less than 11 months and was still dang hard to find, you are just plain full of "you know what". I know initial demand was high for PS2, but it tapered off quickly. Eventually units were more than plentiful and the boom of sales happened after a couple of years with better software and cheaper hardware.
Also I guess that they decided not to include Spiderman 3 with the 40 gig, or at least I have not heard any mention of it being included. I hope it is since I have yet to see it and my friend is going to get the 40 gig.[/quote]Hey, thanks for repeating exactly what I already said.
I never said that it wasn't a hit out of the gate. I was talking pure numbers. And I did say that the sheer volume of sales picked up after a year or two. But those numbers were not there out of the gate, even though the console was hard to find. It was hard to find because they didn't launch with many units.
If you attempt to say that PS2 had 12.5 million sales after less than 11 months and was still dang hard to find, you are just plain full of "you know what". I know initial demand was high for PS2, but it tapered off quickly. Eventually units were more than plentiful and the boom of sales happened after a couple of years with better software and cheaper hardware.
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So the 60gb is BC with PSX games?
And the 80gb isn't?
And the 80gb isn't?
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Still no pricedrop on the PS2 yet?
Anyone find it a little odd seeing that the 60GB version hasn't dropped yet either? A $50 pricedrop would be decent.
Anyone find it a little odd seeing that the 60GB version hasn't dropped yet either? A $50 pricedrop would be decent.
I think my one big question for the PS3 at this point is down the line...say in 2-3 years will there be an option for BC? Signs point to no but I would hate to shell out $500 out of fear that I can't get one with BC ...then have one in 2-3 years at a cheaper price with all software emulation. I also already have a 360, a PS2, and a Wii...so I'm not exactly in a rush to get a PS3.
Also... supposedly the gimped PS3 can do PS1 stuff since its all software emulation already so I don't see why they couldn't eventually do that on the PS2 stuff. I think Cheapy put it best when he said with the system being that powerful shouldn't it be able to run 60 PS2's in cascading windows?
The 360 obviously isn't the best on BC but at least they made the effort and it pushed me into grabbing one to play some of the old XBOX stuff as well as the 360 stuff. Sony just seems to be pushing it aside at this point. Ugh.
Also... supposedly the gimped PS3 can do PS1 stuff since its all software emulation already so I don't see why they couldn't eventually do that on the PS2 stuff. I think Cheapy put it best when he said with the system being that powerful shouldn't it be able to run 60 PS2's in cascading windows?
The 360 obviously isn't the best on BC but at least they made the effort and it pushed me into grabbing one to play some of the old XBOX stuff as well as the 360 stuff. Sony just seems to be pushing it aside at this point. Ugh.
[quote name='slidecage']whatever. go on and save your ps2 games. Good luck dumping them in 2 years or even next year. Look at ps1 games. then again you cant really take the PS2 to PS1 idea since then People could still play ps1 games on their ps2
Most people dont have room for 2 systems and dont even want 2 systems clogging up their space.
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice[/quote]
want bc? either buy the $500 80gb/60gb....or buy a PS2
any selling PS2 games? whats so hard about selling PS2 games to a userbase of 100+million?
and again, most likely the whiners who complain about the high price last year are casuals who still own PS2s, so i fail to see how John Q would refuse to buy a new console without intention of buying new games to play it on. they cant be THAT dumb/misinformed (i know americans are pretty thick, but still)
Most people dont have room for 2 systems and dont even want 2 systems clogging up their space.
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice[/quote]
want bc? either buy the $500 80gb/60gb....or buy a PS2
any selling PS2 games? whats so hard about selling PS2 games to a userbase of 100+million?
and again, most likely the whiners who complain about the high price last year are casuals who still own PS2s, so i fail to see how John Q would refuse to buy a new console without intention of buying new games to play it on. they cant be THAT dumb/misinformed (i know americans are pretty thick, but still)
[quote name='jkam']
The 360 obviously isn't the best on BC but at least they made the effort and it pushed me into grabbing one to play some of the old XBOX stuff as well as the 360 stuff. Sony just seems to be pushing it aside at this point. Ugh.[/quote]
sony's reasoning might be that ps2 already has 100million userbase and is still selling, so might as well just let the PS2 keep selling, while let the PS3 create its own separate userbase.
The 360 obviously isn't the best on BC but at least they made the effort and it pushed me into grabbing one to play some of the old XBOX stuff as well as the 360 stuff. Sony just seems to be pushing it aside at this point. Ugh.[/quote]
sony's reasoning might be that ps2 already has 100million userbase and is still selling, so might as well just let the PS2 keep selling, while let the PS3 create its own separate userbase.
So.....
What happens if I buy a 60GB EE equipped PS3 before they dissapear, and in a few years it needs to be sent in for service?
Will Sony...
a. Keep a stock of EE PS3 components for repairs through the next 9 years of its lifecycle, insuring I get a EE PS3 back from the repair?
b. Ship me a 40 GB non-EE as a replacement?
If Sony doesn't do something about the lack of PS2 compatibility, I'd expect a class-action suit from EE PS3 owners
What happens if I buy a 60GB EE equipped PS3 before they dissapear, and in a few years it needs to be sent in for service?
Will Sony...
a. Keep a stock of EE PS3 components for repairs through the next 9 years of its lifecycle, insuring I get a EE PS3 back from the repair?
b. Ship me a 40 GB non-EE as a replacement?
If Sony doesn't do something about the lack of PS2 compatibility, I'd expect a class-action suit from EE PS3 owners
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[quote name='manthing']So.....
What happens if I buy a 60GB EE equipped PS3 before they dissapear, and in a few years it needs to be sent in for service?
Will Sony...
a. Keep a stock of EE PS3 components for repairs through the next 9 years of its lifecycle, insuring I get a EE PS3 back from the repair?
b. Ship me a 40 GB non-EE as a replacement?
If Sony doesn't do something about the lack of PS2 compatibility, I'd expect a class-action suit from EE PS3 owners[/quote]I proposed the same question in the PS3 forum's thread.
If they shipped out a 80GB MLB in your PS3, then they might be able to get away with it. 40GB MLB, nope. I'm sure Sony will have to get in the habit of shipping Slim PSTwo's with any 20GB/60GB PS3 that doesn't come back with full BC onboard.
What happens if I buy a 60GB EE equipped PS3 before they dissapear, and in a few years it needs to be sent in for service?
Will Sony...
a. Keep a stock of EE PS3 components for repairs through the next 9 years of its lifecycle, insuring I get a EE PS3 back from the repair?
b. Ship me a 40 GB non-EE as a replacement?
If Sony doesn't do something about the lack of PS2 compatibility, I'd expect a class-action suit from EE PS3 owners[/quote]I proposed the same question in the PS3 forum's thread.
If they shipped out a 80GB MLB in your PS3, then they might be able to get away with it. 40GB MLB, nope. I'm sure Sony will have to get in the habit of shipping Slim PSTwo's with any 20GB/60GB PS3 that doesn't come back with full BC onboard.
[quote name='screwkick']There's nothing that can be played on the PS3 that can't be played on an XBOX 360 for a lower console price and at a better frame rate.[/quote]
Please refrain from blatant fanboyism...and always include "you can get Achievement Points" as one of your reasons should you still choose to post it.
Please refrain from blatant fanboyism...and always include "you can get Achievement Points" as one of your reasons should you still choose to post it.
[quote name='shrike4242']I proposed the same question in the PS3 forum's thread.
If they shipped out a 80GB MLB in your PS3, then they might be able to get away with it. 40GB MLB, nope. I'm sure Sony will have to get in the habit of shipping Slim PSTwo's with any 20GB/60GB PS3 that doesn't come back with full BC onboard.[/quote]
Still probably not a good enough "CYA" move for Sony though. Yes a Slim will give full BC, but it *STILL* won't replace the full functionality of the PS3. The upscaling of PS1/2 games would still be missing.
Unless Sony plans on releasing a PS2 HD and putting that in the box with the gimp PS3....
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If they shipped out a 80GB MLB in your PS3, then they might be able to get away with it. 40GB MLB, nope. I'm sure Sony will have to get in the habit of shipping Slim PSTwo's with any 20GB/60GB PS3 that doesn't come back with full BC onboard.[/quote]
Still probably not a good enough "CYA" move for Sony though. Yes a Slim will give full BC, but it *STILL* won't replace the full functionality of the PS3. The upscaling of PS1/2 games would still be missing.
Unless Sony plans on releasing a PS2 HD and putting that in the box with the gimp PS3....
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[quote name='screwkick']There's nothing that can be played on the PS3 that can't be played on an XBOX 360 for a lower console price and at a better frame rate.[/quote]
Do you really want me start listing games? OKAY I GUESS I'll play SOny fanboy for a moment (since I'm a Nintendo fanboy)
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
Team Ico Project
There, each console has plenty of games to play depending on your tastes.
by the way OKAMI ON THE WII!!!!!!!!!
Do you really want me start listing games? OKAY I GUESS I'll play SOny fanboy for a moment (since I'm a Nintendo fanboy)
Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
Team Ico Project
There, each console has plenty of games to play depending on your tastes.
by the way OKAMI ON THE WII!!!!!!!!!
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[quote name='manthing']Still probably not a good enough "CYA" move for Sony though. Yes a Slim will give full BC, but it *STILL* won't replace the full functionality of the PS3. The upscaling of PS1/2 games would still be missing.
Unless Sony plans on releasing a PS2 HD and putting that in the box with the gimp PS3....k[/quote]It's not a good CYA move, though something I'd been thinking of once the 80GB was released, and brought to the forefront by the abomination of the 40GB.
If you bought a retail warranty, like from Target or BB, you're pretty much screwed if it breaks. For EB/GS, you might end up with a used 60GB in place of a new 80GB/40GB.
Unless Sony plans on releasing a PS2 HD and putting that in the box with the gimp PS3....
k[/quote]It's not a good CYA move, though something I'd been thinking of once the 80GB was released, and brought to the forefront by the abomination of the 40GB. If you bought a retail warranty, like from Target or BB, you're pretty much screwed if it breaks. For EB/GS, you might end up with a used 60GB in place of a new 80GB/40GB.
[quote name='shrike4242']It's not a good CYA move, though something I'd been thinking of once the 80GB was released, and brought to the forefront by the abomination of the 40GB. [/quote]
Nope, but the sad truth is that we've probably shown more foresight in 20 minutes than Sony has, and it will probably come back to bite them in the
[quote name='shrike4242'] If you bought a retail warranty, like from Target or BB, you're pretty much screwed if it breaks. For EB/GS, you might end up with a used 60GB in place of a new 80GB/40GB.[/quote]
I haven't bought one, but this question does bother me. Maybe Sony will devise a software solution before it's ever a 'problem'?
I'm thinking about getting that Triple now, even though I *just* bought a 360 Holiday Pro Bundle...
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Nope, but the sad truth is that we've probably shown more foresight in 20 minutes than Sony has, and it will probably come back to bite them in the
[quote name='shrike4242'] If you bought a retail warranty, like from Target or BB, you're pretty much screwed if it breaks. For EB/GS, you might end up with a used 60GB in place of a new 80GB/40GB.[/quote]
I haven't bought one, but this question does bother me. Maybe Sony will devise a software solution before it's ever a 'problem'?
I'm thinking about getting that Triple now, even though I *just* bought a 360 Holiday Pro Bundle...
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[quote name='slidecage']
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice[/quote]
Here's the thing about all of this though, if the PS3 doesnt do BC then it doesnt matter to the PS2 owner whether they get a PS3 or 360 as either will require an investment in all new software. I think Sony is hurting themselves by eliminating BC because the PS2 owner will lose at least one reason to get a PS3 over a 360. (of course there is always the more expensive 'fully functioning' model)
That being said, I really think Microsoft was on to something a few years ago when they essentially said 'backwards compatibility is no big thing' or that 'people dont buy new systems to play old games'. I have to look at myself as an example. I owned a PS1 and a PS2 (actually still have both). But from the time I hooked up my PS2 in 2002, I have played exactly *ONE* PS1 game (Crash Bash) and then that was only when I had younger friends around. Similarly, I did *not* own an Xbox1 but have bought a 360. I have actually *purchased* (used) Xbox1 games...but have not played any of them because I am so much enjoying the new-gen games.
I realize that the average 'internet gamer' sees great value in being able to play older games, but realistically, these are the same people who already own PS2. Sure, having BC keeps your living room less cluttered and perhaps you can recoup a few $$ by reselling the older system, but if you *really* want to play your older games, you *would* keep the older system. I bet if you took a poll here, you'd see plenty of ppl who still own a Dreamcast, N64, Genesis, etc., because they still enjoy playing some of those games.
I *personally* dont care much for this move as I *did* want a cheaper way to play upscaled PS2 games, however, it's really not the end of the world. If I want to play my PS2 games, I just use my PS2. At the end of the day, what is going to make me buy a PS3 is indeed *PS3* software. I think most non-hardcore gamers would think similarly.
TELL THE TRUTH NOW.
When was the last time you broke out your PS1 system or even own a ps1 system anymore....... What was it years ago ?? would you paid 40 bucks for a ps1 game that was worth 40 bucks 8 years ago and the answer to that is 99% is NO
This wont change most peoples minds anyways cause the first questions parents will ask
WILL THIS PLAY MY SONS PS2 games
no then forget it cause there is no way in hell im going to buy my son a system that i need to run out and buy all new games for .
nice try sony but no dice[/quote]
Here's the thing about all of this though, if the PS3 doesnt do BC then it doesnt matter to the PS2 owner whether they get a PS3 or 360 as either will require an investment in all new software. I think Sony is hurting themselves by eliminating BC because the PS2 owner will lose at least one reason to get a PS3 over a 360. (of course there is always the more expensive 'fully functioning' model)
That being said, I really think Microsoft was on to something a few years ago when they essentially said 'backwards compatibility is no big thing' or that 'people dont buy new systems to play old games'. I have to look at myself as an example. I owned a PS1 and a PS2 (actually still have both). But from the time I hooked up my PS2 in 2002, I have played exactly *ONE* PS1 game (Crash Bash) and then that was only when I had younger friends around. Similarly, I did *not* own an Xbox1 but have bought a 360. I have actually *purchased* (used) Xbox1 games...but have not played any of them because I am so much enjoying the new-gen games.
I realize that the average 'internet gamer' sees great value in being able to play older games, but realistically, these are the same people who already own PS2. Sure, having BC keeps your living room less cluttered and perhaps you can recoup a few $$ by reselling the older system, but if you *really* want to play your older games, you *would* keep the older system. I bet if you took a poll here, you'd see plenty of ppl who still own a Dreamcast, N64, Genesis, etc., because they still enjoy playing some of those games.
I *personally* dont care much for this move as I *did* want a cheaper way to play upscaled PS2 games, however, it's really not the end of the world. If I want to play my PS2 games, I just use my PS2. At the end of the day, what is going to make me buy a PS3 is indeed *PS3* software. I think most non-hardcore gamers would think similarly.
didn't see this coming... kind of a slap to the face of people who just got a 60GB one. between the better five free movies offer they've got now and the $100 off the 80GB model, I'm starting to feel cheated.
Goes to show maybe if you're on the fence about buying one you should just wait it out until they drop it another $100 a month or two down the line.
Goes to show maybe if you're on the fence about buying one you should just wait it out until they drop it another $100 a month or two down the line.
[quote name='dmaul1114']Here, this was posted on the official Guitar Hero forums (the developers site) by the admins:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=28298[/QUOTE]
This is outdated-- the PS3 guitars WILL NOT WORK with ANY PS2 Guitar Hero games:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=29097
3. How is the functionality of the PS3 Les Paul wireless for the older Guitar Hero games (released on PS2)?
Correction: The new PS3 Les Paul wireless controller will NOT work at all with any of the Playstation2 Guitar Hero titles when played on the PS3. We suggest that you keep your PS2 console around to play the older PS2 Guitar Hero games. Using a PS2-to-PS3 USB adapter, GH1 will work on the PS3 using either the SG or the original PS2 wireless guita
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=28298[/QUOTE]
This is outdated-- the PS3 guitars WILL NOT WORK with ANY PS2 Guitar Hero games:
http://forum.guitarherogame.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=29097
3. How is the functionality of the PS3 Les Paul wireless for the older Guitar Hero games (released on PS2)?
Correction: The new PS3 Les Paul wireless controller will NOT work at all with any of the Playstation2 Guitar Hero titles when played on the PS3. We suggest that you keep your PS2 console around to play the older PS2 Guitar Hero games. Using a PS2-to-PS3 USB adapter, GH1 will work on the PS3 using either the SG or the original PS2 wireless guita
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