Acorn Helps Pimp and Working Girl Land a Loan

[quote name='deathscythehe']Clearly they don't support it. That's why in the last video, the guy actually offers to help them move the girls into the country illegally. It was all just a big joke. Kind of like those guys who go to 12 year old girls houses and bring condoms and alcohol. It's a joke! Get it?! Child molestation! LOL!
The more you guys defend them, the bigger idiots you make yourselves out to be. Even the political left has abandoned them. Take a hint.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, because some random guy at ACORN really has the ability to move child slaves into the country.

And I'm sure you believe that every single murder in a rap song was real too.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']If you EVER pull shit like this ^^^ again in the same thread that you put up cutesy "race card" straw men arguments, I'll buy my own place ticket to your house and slap you in the goddamned face.

Have some fucking self-respect.[/QUOTE]

Struck a nerve did I?

You know it's all fun and games and I'm just being sarcastic, but it's so easy this last week or so with race being such a hot topic - and it's being made a hot topic by the left.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Yeah, because some random guy at ACORN really has the ability to move child slaves into the country.

And I'm sure you believe that every single murder in a rap song was real too.[/QUOTE]
You know, I never thought of it that way. Telling a client that you can smuggle child sex slaves into the country because you have contacts is quite similar to a guy singing a song about killing cops. I'd totally give the guy the benefit of the doubt all things considered.
Atleast you're still defending the guy unlike Acorn, who has since fired him for unacceptable conduct. I'm glad you're not so judgmental like everyone else. I mean, who is to say that child prostitution is wrong. We need to be more accepting of other lifestyles.
Your old excuses were better. You must really be scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Unfortunately, I don't think the "my dog ate my homework" excuse will work in this context. You could always throw in George Bush into an excuse though. That usually works. Not really, but don't tell that to the idiots who still use it.
I have to give Breitbart credit for how he's releasing these. He's gotten all the nutjobs to exhaust all their bs excuses quite well.
First it's isolated, so he releases another video.
Then it's only going on on the East coast at a few places so he releases the west coast videos.
Then it's because conservatives hate black people, so he releases the next video with a white employee and then a hispanic. I guess that makes him an equal opportunity hater.
I'm surprised no one played the sexism card, since up to the last guy it was all women.
 
That is a good point, I am sure that Acorn was forced to hire these unqualified "rogues" because of some Bush policy. Oh, and the amateur journalists are clearly racist, or they wouldn't have done anything to get a black person fired.
 
Does the guy really have contacts?? That's what it comes down to.

Otherwise, he's just some dude that was running off at his mouth. That's my point. Dudes run off at the mouth all day and they couldn't even crush a grape.

I'm looking at you deathsythehe, "War is my master".......The world is full of guys that try to be harder than they are.

Did he screw up and run his mouth off at work. Hell yeah. Does he really have contacts in the illegal sex industry? I think if he did, he'd be under arrest, wouldn't you? Has he been charged with a crime yet? No. Why? Because he's just some dude running off at his mouth. Much like you deathsythehe.
 
So now we're comparing putting a quote from a video game on a video game forum to telling someone I've got specifics contacts in Tijuana to help get child prostitutes into the country.
You also lose credit for not using Bush in your comment. You should have said he was the one always running his mouth about this senseless endless war.
The real point of the matter, which you continue to fail to try and jump away from, is they were condoning and more importantly enabling illegal activity. You can try all the linguistic and non logical acrobatics all you want, they've got it on video, the people have been fired, and the organization has admitted to the wrongdoing and is begging forgiveness so they won't get prosecuted(good luck on that one). Let's forget as you try that the Brooklyn office is currently under investigation by the same people who track the mob and insinuate that it's all just a big funny joke on conservatives. You must have a very screwed up sense of humor to think that sleeping with little girls is a laugh riot, but who am I to judge.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Yeah, because some random guy at ACORN really has the ability to move child slaves into the country.

And I'm sure you believe that every single murder in a rap song was real too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm sure organized crime never thought of infiltrating Acorn as a way to score easy federal money. Because Acorn has a super-stringent hiring policy and is totally on the up-and-up, doncha know.
 
Again, alot of people run off at the mouth. It doesn't actually mean they have real contacts. If you conservatives were so worried about doing real good, why don't you use the information to bust up child prostitution rings? Oh, that's right. You guys are just worried about making the President look bad. Oh. And there are no contacts. Whoops.

You guys are morons if you think the Mafia (or any other organized crime syndicate) would have those guys infiltrate ACORN. They're smarter than that. It took decades to take down Mafia bosses and it could only be done with informants that literally fear for their lives. You think a mafioso would just sit there and run off at the mouth because some dude came in dressed like a pimp?
 
[quote name='depascal22']Again, alot of people run off at the mouth. It doesn't actually mean they have real contacts. If you conservatives were so worried about doing real good, why don't you use the information to bust up child prostitution rings? Oh, that's right. You guys are just worried about making the President look bad. Oh. And there are no contacts. Whoops.

You guys are morons if you think the Mafia (or any other organized crime syndicate) would have those guys infiltrate ACORN. They're smarter than that. It took decades to take down Mafia bosses and it could only be done with informants that literally fear for their lives. You think a mafioso would just sit there and run off at the mouth because some dude came in dressed like a pimp?[/QUOTE]

Of course not. I'm sure the mafia's Acorn guys are too smart to get caught mouthing off in such an obvious come-on.

However I really don't see how that bolsters your position. At best these people are total rubes, at worst they are garden-variety criminals. If they can get hired by Acorn, just imagine what a slick organized criminal outfit could be getting away with at this very moment.
 
Why is it that individuals hand picked, hired and trained by ACORN aren't supposed to be representative of ACORN, but any nut with a poster board, marker and slogan on the street corner is suppose to represent about half the country?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Why is it that individuals hand picked, hired and trained by ACORN aren't supposed to be representative of ACORN, but any nut with a poster board, marker and slogan on the street corner is suppose to represent about half the country?[/QUOTE]

The same reason alot of the idiots in this forum argue over partisan bullshit and then try to act like they own people when all they did was say partisan things and have a few people who share brains agree with them....

If this forum was being logical it would've noticed by now that all politicians are using America for their own political games. Instead, there is nothing but hypocritical arguments, accusation, and finger pointing, pointing at political enemies and convenietly ignoring when your own party does it......
 
[quote name='depascal22']Again, alot of people run off at the mouth. It doesn't actually mean they have real contacts. If you conservatives were so worried about doing real good, why don't you use the information to bust up child prostitution rings? Oh, that's right. You guys are just worried about making the President look bad. Oh. And there are no contacts. Whoops.

You guys are morons if you think the Mafia (or any other organized crime syndicate) would have those guys infiltrate ACORN. They're smarter than that. It took decades to take down Mafia bosses and it could only be done with informants that literally fear for their lives. You think a mafioso would just sit there and run off at the mouth because some dude came in dressed like a pimp?[/QUOTE]

Wait, there are child prostitution rings getting tax payer money?!
 
I'm gonna say it again. If you guys truly think that ACORN has connections to child prostitution, why aren't you doing more to shut down the actual rings? Is that because these guys don't have actual connections?
 
[quote name='depascal22']I'm gonna say it again. If you guys truly think that ACORN has connections to child prostitution, why aren't you doing more to shut down the actual rings? Is that because these guys don't have actual connections?[/QUOTE]

Am I the only one that sees fault in this? If the "right" truly thinks ACORN has connections to child prostitution, then aren't they doing something by shutting down once source of funding for child prostitution rings?

If you think ACORN has no such connections, depascal, what are YOU doing to stop child prostitution?
 
It's a bit sad that America has turned into a land of Gullible people, easily influenced by people only out for there own good, no one thinks for themselves or cares for others. Instead American has an Ego almost as large as it's debt and it's government is no longer of its people (middle to lower economic majority) Our politicians are wealthy, and more concerned with staying that way.
 
You mean besides making excuses for ACORN and acting naive about the whole scenario?

And how could we shut them down depascal22? Are we the police? Does that mean that we live as naive individuals and trust people?

Do you want a bridge in brookyln?
 
[quote name='Romis']It's a bit sad that America has turned into a land of Gullible people, easily influenced by people only out for there own good, no one thinks for themselves or cares for others. Instead American has an Ego almost as large as it's debt and it's government is no longer of its people (middle to lower economic majority) Our politicians are wealthy, and more concerned with staying that way.[/QUOTE]

Stop trying to make sense or be logical, logic and sense is 'racism' in America today.
 
[quote name='AdultLink']Stop trying to make sense or be logical, logic and sense is 'racism' in America today.[/QUOTE]

Greed & Stupidity are what is ruining America, no matter what your ethnicity is If your a US Citizen your now an American period
 
They could've used the information to actually free some girls. Oh wait, there aren't any real links to child prositution. Again, give me some concrete proof that there are child prostitution rings in America that are being funded by ACORN.

Why does it matter what I'm doing against child prostitution? I'm not pretending like it's the number one issue on my agenda. I'm not a "journalist" that's leaking the videos on my website and to Fox News. If they really thought there were links, wouldn't they have gone to the FBI? Wouldn't the heads of ACORN and all these individuals be locked up without bail while awaiting trial for several class A felonies? Oh that's right. The judicial system would never touch this case because there's no proof.

Let me reiterate, child prostitution is one of the most deplorable acts that any person can do. The real pimps deserved the death penalty. People that joke about it? Not a crime unless you want to get rid of that freedom of speech that you conservatives cling to like God and guns.

You guys are acting like I support child prostitution because I'm not ready to fry these people without going through due process. Again, another conservative touchstone that you guys are willing to completely toss away because it fits your agenda.
 
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[quote name='Romis']Greed & Stupidity are what is ruining America, no matter what your ethnicity is If your a US Citizen your now an American period[/QUOTE]

You missed the sarcasm... Or your making your own... Either way, disagreeing with Obama=racism. And it goes further. Not allowing criminals to steal from your house=jail, taking responsibility=what someone else should do, etc.

There has always been greed and stupidity, that isn't what's sinking us. What IS sinking us is that we've lost all common sense and responsibility.
 
You mean the responsibility to those young girls in the prostitution rings? Oh, that's right. None of you are really concerned about them.
 
[quote name='depascal22']They could've used the information to actually free some girls. Oh wait, there aren't any real links to child prositution. Again, give me some concrete proof that there are child prostitution rings in America that are being funded by ACORN.

Why does it matter what I'm doing against child prostitution? I'm not pretending like it's the number one issue on my agenda. I'm not a "journalist" that's leaking the videos on my website and to Fox News. If they really thought there were links, wouldn't they have gone to the FBI? Wouldn't the heads of ACORN and all these individuals be locked up without bail while awaiting trial for several class A felonies? Oh that's right. The judicial system would never touch this case because there's no proof.

Let me reiterate, child prostitution is one of the most deplorable acts that any person can do. The real pimps deserved the death penalty. People that joke about it? Not a crime unless you want to get rid of that freedom of speech that you conservatives cling to like God and guns.

You guys are acting like I support child prostitution because I'm not ready to fry these people without going through due process. Again, another conservative touchstone that you guys are willing to completely toss away because it fits your agenda.[/QUOTE]

Try to use some common sense. If I worked at acorn and some people came to me saying they were a pimp and prostitute and looking for my help in buying a home to run a prostitution ring, I would throw them out and probably call the police. If I believed their story, I would throw them out. If I thought they were pulling my chain, I would throw them out. There's no situation where I would humor them, unless it was to gain as much info as possible before I called the cops. I'm sure there are offices where that's exactly what happened, and that's great.

The pattern these tapes show clearly is that the hiring practices of acorn leave a lot to be desired. Especially when coupled with the real facts of lots of acorn employees committing voter registration fraud in multiple states during the election. I'm sure there are many other community organizations that run much tighter ships and can perform the same lawful functions that Acorn currently does. I'd much rather the government funds going to acorn went to a better-run group.
 
I'm not arguing that ACORN isn't dead in the water. But use common sense on your part.

If this was truly about stopping child prostitution and not just smearing the President, don't you think the FBI should've been notified first instead of Fox News? So far, there have been zero charges against any of the ACORN employees. You don't think that at least one of them would've been in some serious trouble if there were truly links to child prostitutes?

Also, several of the people that were busted said they thought it was a joke and that they thought they would see how far it would all go. Stupid? Obviously yes. Criminal? Nothing yet.

Let me make this clear. ACORN hires retards. So does every company in America. ACORN does NOT condone child prostitution and it's more than a little naive for all of you to think that they do.
 
[quote name='depascal22']You mean the responsibility to those young girls in the prostitution rings? Oh, that's right. None of you are really concerned about them.[/QUOTE]

Are we supposed to believe that you are?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Are we supposed to believe that you are?[/QUOTE]

Yes.

Although what that has to do with pretending Congress has the power to pass a Bill of Attainder or not is a bit beyond me.
 
depascal, I am not sure what story you have been following but this has never been about child prostitution or anyone that believes Acorn is involved with real child prostitution. It's about catching one of the largest community organizers in the country from chuckling, turning a blind eye, or actually helping (read: not turning away) anyone claiming they are involved with a number of deplorable illegal activities. An organization that has taken 56 million from us so far and has applied for over a billion more.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']depascal, I am not sure what story you have been following but this has never been about child prostitution or anyone that believes Acorn is involved with real child prostitution. It's about catching one of the largest community organizers in the country from chuckling, turning a blind eye, or actually helping (read: not turning away) anyone claiming they are involved with a number of deplorable illegal activities. [/QUOTE]

Very succintly put.

Depascal is quite literally resorting to "will somebody think of the children, will somebody please think of the children". It is the last act of the desperate - when you have no chance of winning the arguement on its own merits, create a distraction that appeals to peoples emotions.
 
Read the title of the thread.....

So now it's not about child prostitutes?

I'm saying that if you truly believe that ACORN truly allows such things to happen, why aren't the employees being brought up on federal charges? Last time I checked, it violates about a dozen child endangerment laws to even know about a real child prostitution ring. But there is no ACORN funded child prostitution ring. There haven't been any charges but yet you guys want to sit there like ACORN is the worst organization in this country. You want to say that because half a dozen employees agreed to help a "pimp and his ho" that it means that they are up to everything else in the book. It's dishonest at best.

I'm bringing up the children because it shows how ridiculous this all is. You're acusing ACORN of crimes. What would those crimes be? The only thing you have any sort of evidence against is voter registration fraud and "child prostitution". But now this isn't about child prostitution at all? I know we have these guys on tape talking about setting up prostitution rings but we'll just say it's not about that. Huh?
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And how is this about Obama? For many radical right wingers, Obama = ACORN. How many signs were at the 9/12 rally that said Obama supports child prostitution? Go back and look at the pictures. I'm sorry if I equate some of you with the retarded faction of your wing but you act like it when you bust someone for child prostitution and then tell everyone it's not about that.

And you guys need to stop with the "It's because he's black isn't it?" I'm not in the school of thought that everything negative about the President is racist but you guys need to stop with the opposite extreme. You guys railed against Obama and ACORN all during the election and now it's not a valid point? Now I'm just a looking for racism because he's black? You guys need to realize that alot of the propaganda being put out by the right is racist in nature and just makes you guys look worse and worse. It's like a new race to see who can bring up the race card first and it makes you guys look more retarded every time.
 
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[quote name='depascal22']Read the title of the thread.....

So now it's not about child prostitutes?

I'm saying that if you truly believe that ACORN truly allows such things to happen, why aren't the employees being brought up on federal charges? Last time I checked, it violates about a dozen child endangerment laws to even know about a real child prostitution ring. But there is no ACORN funded child prostitution ring. There haven't been any charges but yet you guys want to sit there like ACORN is the worst organization in this country. You want to say that because half a dozen employees agreed to help a "pimp and his ho" that it means that they are up to everything else in the book. It's dishonest at best.

I'm bringing up the children because it shows how ridiculous this all is. You're acusing ACORN of crimes. What would those crimes be? The only thing you have any sort of evidence against is voter registration fraud and "child prostitution". But now this isn't about child prostitution at all? I know we have these guys on tape talking about setting up prostitution rings but we'll just say it's not about that. Huh?
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And how is this about Obama? For many radical right wingers, Obama = ACORN. How many signs were at the 9/12 rally that said Obama supports child prostitution? Go back and look at the pictures. I'm sorry if I equate some of you with the retarded faction of your wing but you act like it when you bust someone for child prostitution and then tell everyone it's not about that.[/QUOTE]

These are all strawmen.

If I put up a thread that said "underage prostitution is bad" it would be a pretty boring and pointless thread because every person with a scintilla of morality agrees. Somebody already put up a thread with the ridiculous anti-Obama posters - that's terrible too.

However when an organization that receives federal money and purports to help the poor is caught multiple times giving loans to borrowers identifying themselves as pimps and prostitutes, hopefully you can see the problem. It's like Halliburton excess or AIG CEO excess, in my book Acorn doesn't get a pass because they steal less of my taxdollars or the cause is noble.

You're free to love Acorn, support Acorn, and shower them with your personal funds. However as long as they accept taxpayer money, I will hold them to the same standard that I would hold any other government organization. I will not shrink from reporting on graft, on waste, on inept employees when my taxpayer dollars are at stake, be it direct federal funding or nonprofit corporate status.
 
That's fine. And I agree that ACORN should be busted when it's PROVEN that they're giving loans. Watching those videos, not one of those people got loans. The ACORN employees joked around about how to dodge taxes but not one of them got a loan.

And you're not reporting shit. You're taking a gotcha video and getting all indignant about it like it's the worst thing a government funded agency has done in the last couple years.

"I will not shring from reporting graft...." Take your crusader act to the streets where the real help is needed. Get involved locally or shut the fuck up about how you're personally reporting graft. Last time I checked, you didn't report shit.
 
[quote name='depascal22']That's fine. And I agree that ACORN should be busted when it's PROVEN that they're giving loans. Watching those videos, not one of those people got loans. The ACORN employees joked around about how to dodge taxes but not one of them got a loan.

And you're not reporting shit. You're taking a gotcha video and getting all indignant about it like it's the worst thing a government funded agency has done in the last couple years.

"I will not shring from reporting graft...." Take your crusader act to the streets where the real help is needed. Get involved locally or shut the fuck up about how you're personally reporting graft. Last time I checked, you didn't report shit.[/QUOTE]

lol
 
That's it? lol? You guys are fucking jokes. Again, do something other than bitch on a forum all day about how liberals are destroying this country.
 
[quote name='depascal22']That's it? lol? You guys are fucking jokes. Again, do something other than bitch on a forum all day about how liberals are destroying this country.[/QUOTE]

As opposed to your awesome methods of... ummm.. yeah...
 
[quote name='UncleBob']As opposed to your awesome methods of... ummm.. yeah...[/QUOTE]

Actually, I'm in the business of finding people jobs. And I work in a full time in a hospital. Helped out with a liver transplant last week. Have fun on cart duty at Wal-Mart, bitch. I'm done with you and your fucking mouth.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Actually, I'm in the business of finding people jobs. And I work in a full time in a hospital. Helped out with a liver transplant last week. Have fun on cart duty at Wal-Mart, bitch. I'm done with you and your fucking mouth.[/QUOTE]

That helps people find jobs? My brother is an optometrist, my dad was one of the best engineers in the country for electrical/computer/chemical/mechanical/systems from the 60's to the 80's, and my grandfather was a systems engineer for Bell Bombers during world war 2 which became Lockheed Martin. How did any of this find jobs?

Job creation, maybe.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Actually, I'm in the business of finding people jobs. And I work in a full time in a hospital. Helped out with a liver transplant last week. Have fun on cart duty at Wal-Mart, bitch. I'm done with you and your fucking mouth.[/QUOTE]

How much do you make in your job?

Are you one of those evil individuals making money off the sickness of other people?

And, besides - you know I work for Walmart. You know next to nothing about anything else I do.

If you're done with me, as you've stated so many times, stop replying to me. I won't be sad.
 
Looks like there are several DoJ probes looking into ACORN. Guess FOX News and the evil right wingers aren't the only ones concerned that ACORN may have committed some crimes.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Actually, I'm in the business of finding people jobs. And I work in a full time in a hospital. Helped out with a liver transplant last week. Have fun on cart duty at Wal-Mart, bitch. I'm done with you and your fucking mouth.[/QUOTE]

You do realize that nearly everything you have railed against in this thread are stereotyped right-wing talking points that nobody in this thread has claimed or said they believe?

It's almost like you came in here ranting and raving against a ghost and got upset that nobody believed what you were ranting against.
 
New reports show that at least one of the ACORN workers called the police on the couple.

Funny how that wasn't mentioned earlier..And in some cases still may have not been mentioned at all? This did happen at several locations right?
 
[quote name='HowStern']New reports show that at least one of the ACORN workers called the police on the couple.

Funny how that wasn't mentioned earlier..And in some cases still may have not been mentioned at all? This did happen at several locations right?[/QUOTE]

I found this:
www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hA9b96qgu9MG_331xFUGcYvhOcLAD9AS3CUO0

While it doesn't speak to the professionalism of Acorn workers, it does go a long way to taking the venom out of this one particular incident. You said "at least" - were there any others I missed?
 
[quote name='depascal22']Actually, I'm in the business of finding people jobs. And I work in a full time in a hospital. Helped out with a liver transplant last week. Have fun on cart duty at Wal-Mart, bitch. I'm done with you and your fucking mouth.[/QUOTE]

Wow. Way to ruin any bit of class anyone thought you had. That was just pathetic.
 
Just saw this. Rather funny and good to see more justice being served, albeit by accident

The congressional legislation intended to defund ACORN, passed with broad bipartisan support, is written so broadly that it applies to "any organization" that has been charged with breaking federal or state election laws, lobbying disclosure laws, campaign finance laws or filing fraudulent paperwork with any federal or state agency. It also applies to any of the employees, contractors or other folks affiliated with a group charged with any of those things.
In other words, the bill could plausibly defund the entire military-industrial complex. Whoops.
Click to expand...

yes i know huffingtonpost liberal news blah blah but it seems pretty legit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/whoops-anti-acorn-bill-ro_n_294949.html
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Wow. Way to ruin any bit of class anyone thought you had. That was just pathetic.[/QUOTE]

Please stop pretending that you've been anything but disrespectful to most of us the minute you logged in the first time. I'm with a couple other people on here that think that your bad trader status speaks more than volumes about your character than a few angry rants on the vs. forums but this a free forum and you're free to run your mouth as much as you want. I'll take my temp banning and move on.
 
oh, today on Glenn Beck, he had on Pat Caddell who worked for Carter. Beck said he was a Democrat. If thats true, he is certainly a DINO. Only someone as far to the right as Rick Santorum could paint Caddell as something remotely resembling a Democrat.
 
Unless anyone has any direct proof that Obama himself was involved with this scam, then I don't want to hear about it.

True, GW Chimpanzee Bush was a scumbag, a moron and fairly underhanded, but he was NOT the mastermind behind 9/11. Nor is Obama responsible for everything.
 
[quote name='Diosoth']Unless anyone has any direct proof that Obama himself was involved with this scam, then I don't want to hear about it.

True, GW Chimpanzee Bush was a scumbag, a moron and fairly underhanded, but he was NOT the mastermind behind 9/11. Nor is Obama responsible for everything.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck have you been reading? No one ever said Obama was behind this in this topic, nor did they accuse Bush of being behind 9/11.
 
[quote name='depascal22']Please stop pretending that you've been anything but disrespectful to most of us the minute you logged in the first time. I'm with a couple other people on here that think that your bad trader status speaks more than volumes about your character than a few angry rants on the vs. forums but this a free forum and you're free to run your mouth as much as you want. I'll take my temp banning and move on.[/QUOTE]

bad trader status? huh?

Edit: Oh, got ya lulz (just found out there even was a "bad trading list". So after my package never gets to shrike (i shipped first) somehow I'm on the bad trader list. I'm such a bad human being.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']bad trader status? huh?

Edit: Oh, got ya lulz (just found out there even was a "bad trading list". So after my package never gets to shrike (i shipped first) somehow I'm on the bad trader list. I'm such a bad human being.[/QUOTE]

You are basically a troll.

Certain comments in the healthcare thread come to mind.
 
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