AMC's The Walking Dead - S3 2nd half starts 02/10/13 9PM ET

I just ordered "The Walking Dead: Compendium One" Which is the first 48 comics. This will be the first comic/graphic novel I have ever read, I hope I like it.
 
I find it kinda funny that you guys are thinking
Carl is going to shoot Shane
when, well
That's the way it happens in the graphic novels, though much earlier on
.
 
[quote name='TheBigAndy']I just ordered "The Walking Dead: Compendium One" Which is the first 48 comics. This will be the first comic/graphic novel I have ever read, I hope I like it.[/QUOTE]

You will, it's seriously great. It's also different enough from the show that it should still keep you interested.
 
Why do I see this show ending up like V. Slow to build up but when it does it really does it. V took to long to go anywhere and the last episode of the season was great but the rest was just filler. This was the same way. Sure it had its moments but did they really have to take this long to get to this point. With that said I still like the show but think it is a little to slow at times.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I agree, I think they are going to push Carl towards that storyline. The problem I see is that Shane is seriously the only person anyone wants to see right now. Hell the show is slow enough already I cant imagine what they would do with Shane.

I really think they are going to be pushing that as far down the road as possible.[/QUOTE]

That's very true but
I'd say we're getting close to Tyrese and Michonne debuting who could take Shane's place but then again after the show killed a character that's still alive in the comics they really could do anything at this point.

[quote name='Mixer236']I find it kinda funny that you guys are thinking
Carl is going to shoot Shane
when, well
That's the way it happens in the graphic novels, though much earlier on
.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I'm kind of hoping
he doesn't shoot him so we can get some other kind of surprise
 
The last episode was great. I'm really enjoying the show and I actually like the slow pace although I do hope they leave the farm soon.
 
Agreed. Last episode was great. But I've been liking the season a lot anyway. I'm not a huge zombie guy in general, so it's the character stuff that's kept me watching.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']That's very true but
I'd say we're getting close to Tyrese and Michonne debuting who could take Shane's place but then again after the show killed a character that's still alive in the comics they really could do anything at this point.
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I know, I'm really gearing up for their appearances... Definitely two of the more interesting characters in the series.

As for Shane
I don't really care who offs him, I just want it to happen because he's starting to annoy me
. And yet, a part of me doesn't want anything at all to happen. :roll: lol
 
[quote name='Mixer236']I find it kinda funny that you guys are thinking
Carl is going to shoot Shane
when, well
That's the way it happens in the graphic novels, though much earlier on
.[/QUOTE]

That would be because they have read the graphic novels.
 
The best part of that link about Sophia Saga is the comments.

The writer voice her opinion that they spent a little too much time looking for the girl during the course of the season and she was glad it finally ended. Then in typically internet fashion the comments are "OMG WHY DO YOU WANT ACTION ACTION ACTION....Pfft not all zombie movies have to have tons of gore....why are you complaining sooo much" And of course the...."if you dont like it stop watching it (even though I believes it this ladies job to do so)"


HA! Oooo the interweb.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']The writer voice her opinion that they spent a little too much time looking for the girl during the course of the season and she was glad it finally ended. Then in typically internet fashion the comments are "OMG WHY DO YOU WANT ACTION ACTION ACTION....[/QUOTE]

The writer voice? She did? She voice it? Well, that's nice. I'm also glad it was typically internet. Because typically, it's not always the internet. But it being typically internet means a lot more in this instance. :)
 
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[quote name='Gannikus']Is Andrea as annoying in the GN than in the show? Anything she does pisses me off -_-[/QUOTE]


fuck no shes freakin badass in the comics .
she statrs off kinda blah but over time shes learning how to shoot and ends up becoming an sick sniper. also after this psycho killer tries to murder her in prison and cuts her on her face she becomes even harder. shes easily one of the top 5 badasses in the comics series.
 
[quote name='lokizz']fuck no shes freakin badass in the comics .
she statrs off kinda blah but over time shes learning how to shoot and ends up becoming an sick sniper. also after this psycho killer tries to murder her in prison and cuts her on her face she becomes even harder. shes easily one of the top 5 badasses in the comics series.
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You know thing I dont get about the show is,
how long they want this show to be? It feels as though they are thinning it out so it can go 5 or 6 seasons but in reality the majority of the main people in the show die fairly quickly.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']You know thing I dont get about the show is,
how long they want this show to be? It feels as though they are thinning it out so it can go 5 or 6 seasons but in reality the majority of the main people in the show die fairly quickly.
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yeah but with how things are going now its safe to say the comics will be used as a rough outline for what they want t do with the show. i could see them skipping alot of the in between stuff and maybe jumoping to near where the cmics are now.

financially itd be cheaper and easier to do. with how violent the comic is alot of things never had a chance to make it to tv and with the kids aging quickly i can see at least 1 time jump. maybe gloss over things in a flasgback or something.

i donnt see the show going past 4 seasons once the novelty runs out.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']That would be because they have read the graphic novels.[/QUOTE]

I figured some of them had, but it was getting said so much that I thought it unlikely that they all had done so. That, coupled with the guy on the same page saying he just bought them, and the way some of the comments were worded, lead me to believe that some of them had just came to that conclusion.


Adding to the discussion, I was a little surprised at first that a lot of the characters that make a quick exit in the GN are around so long in the show, but(as mentioned above) I believe it is b/c they want to be enough differences in the two to keep the fans interested and guessing. I know there are those out there that go nuts when a show/movie stray a little from the source material, but I prefer it this way. I find it more enjoyable than just sitting there watching, knowing when each specific thing is going to happen. Imagine that. :roll:
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']You know thing I dont get about the show is,
how long they want this show to be? It feels as though they are thinning it out so it can go 5 or 6 seasons but in reality the majority of the main people in the show die fairly quickly.
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They're dragging it out because AMC doesn't know where it's going to go...mainly because Kirkman doesn't know where it's going either. He said when he started the comics that it's supposed to be like "a zombie movie that doesn't end." He literally has no plan to end the comics. Which is why the series strayed in plot so far from the comics. So it can be like Dexter, where the show rolls on its own without having to be chained to a finicky writer.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']They're dragging it out because AMC doesn't know where it's going to go...mainly because Kirkman doesn't know where it's going either. He said when he started the comics that it's supposed to be like "a zombie movie that doesn't end." He literally has no plan to end the comics. Which is why the series strayed in plot so far from the comics. So it can be like Dexter, where the show rolls on its own without having to be chained to a finicky writer.[/QUOTE]

Having not read the comics ( they are on the way) , I for one like that they are not mirror images, that way I can enjoy two good stories.
 
Yeah, I like that too. Was pissed at first. "BULLSHIT, IT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE COMICS!", etc., etc. but really like that it stands on its own. I really don't mind at all that it tends to drag, or if a show has minimal zombie versus shotgun barrel action. I'm more of a "season" viewer than an "episode" viewer, so slow burn shows kinda appeal to me more.

I guess it's the opposite of how I feel about Game Of Thrones. I'm happy as a pig in shit that they stick like glue to the books. And that show has added value in that I read somewhere that HBO already plans for books 3 and 4 to be combined and resplit into chronological order. That's just a major bonus to me, and probably other book purists that see the show as a secondary product.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']I'm more of a "season" viewer than an "episode" viewer, so slow burn shows kinda appeal to me more.
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Ditto. My brother's going on and on about how he's going to stop watching the show altogether because of how slow the past few episodes have been. I, for one, love the character development that's been going on. The slow pace of this season was all worth it for the mid-season finale.
 
[quote name='blissskr']I liked this part also and to add if looking at it from the perspective Shane tried to point out earlier about Rick not being able to make it in this world to Lori. Almost everyone had a gun but didn't put Sophia down even Shane just stood there looking almost like he felt sorry or showed some human emotion. So Rick did what essentially was the right thing but at the same time the hardest thing to do. As it wasn't simply some zombie it was a known character. Which in showing the emotions of the group towards killing her seemed to twist the situation to Hershel's view on the zombies as people because Sophia was like family to the group. Did none of the others fire because emotionally they still viewed her as Sophia even though she was dead perhaps, because they certainly had no problem firing on any other zombie that came out the barn.[/QUOTE]

I enjoyed that irony. That once they came across a zombified person that they had invested interest in, they couldn't find it in themselves to pull the trigger. I'm not too keen on how this is going to affect Daryl, though. Considering how much time he put into finding her, I can't imagine him taking it very well.

On a different note, I haven't read the comics. If the show followed them exactly, how many episodes/seasons do you think they would be able to film before they caught up with the comics?
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Yeah, I like that too. Was pissed at first. "BULLSHIT, IT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE COMICS!", etc., etc. but really like that it stands on its own. I really don't mind at all that it tends to drag, or if a show has minimal zombie versus shotgun barrel action. I'm more of a "season" viewer than an "episode" viewer, so slow burn shows kinda appeal to me more.

I guess it's the opposite of how I feel about Game Of Thrones. I'm happy as a pig in shit that they stick like glue to the books. And that show has added value in that I read somewhere that HBO already plans for books 3 and 4 to be combined and resplit into chronological order. That's just a major bonus to me, and probably other book purists that see the show as a secondary product.[/QUOTE]


i cant wait for game of thrones to come back that show is my favrite show period. its hard to keep away from the books on basic curiosity but like with walking dead and the harry ptter shit i always get annoyed when shit doesnt mirror the source more so for now ill watch it with pure eyes.

that said if they are doing twd kinda free then its kinda sad they cant make the episdes better when they arent trying hard to stick to the source material.

the lack of action doesnt bother me as much as the lack of fear and dread and tension. if the occasinal zombie didnt pop up every so often they show could literally be about anything. every few episodes they need to have a holy shit were really outnumbered and endangered moment.
 
[quote name='Twilight Sparkle']I enjoyed that irony. That once they came across a zombified person that they had invested interest in, they couldn't find it in themselves to pull the trigger. I'm not too keen on how this is going to affect Daryl, though. Considering how much time he put into finding her, I can't imagine him taking it very well.

On a different note, I haven't read the comics. If the show followed them exactly, how many episodes/seasons do you think they would be able to film before they caught up with the comics?[/QUOTE]

At this rate probably 100-150... We're 12 episodes into the show and they've caught up to about issue 8 or 9 of the comic. There's really almost no chance of it catching up to the comic at this point particularly if they keep inventing more storylines. Like I've said before, at this point the comic and show are really 2 different things now.
 
As far as the show goes about following the source material, you should probably just compare this show to True Blood. It follows basic outlines too, but there's characters on the show that have outlived their source counterparts past 3 seasons. I wouldn't expect many of these main characters to die quick and some I wouldn't expect it at all unless that's the thought if how to end.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']As far as the show goes about following the source material, you should probably just compare this show to True Blood. It follows basic outlines too, but there's characters on the show that have outlived their source counterparts past 3 seasons. I wouldn't expect many of these main characters to die quick and some I wouldn't expect it at all unless that's the thought if how to end.[/QUOTE]

Please lets not compare the awesome Walking Dead to the god awful True Blood which had one good/great season (Season 1) followed by arguably 3 of the worst seasons of any "good" show in the history of TV. I mean I'm not even sure if I liked Heroes better and that's saying something.

Note: you are exactly right with your analogy though as far as sticking to the source material I just can't stand True Blood (yet I keep watching it as some sort of self-imposed torture).
 
[quote name='DestroVega']As far as the show goes about following the source material, you should probably just compare this show to True Blood. It follows basic outlines too, but there's characters on the show that have outlived their source counterparts past 3 seasons. I wouldn't expect many of these main characters to die quick and some I wouldn't expect it at all unless that's the thought if how to end.[/QUOTE]

After watching
Sophia
die, it's all in the air as to who will die and live. Aside from Rick/Carl probably the only character I expect to live the whole way is
Judith, since they aren't going to shoot an infant on television
.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']As far as the show goes about following the source material, you should probably just compare this show to True Blood. It follows basic outlines too, but there's characters on the show that have outlived their source counterparts past 3 seasons. I wouldn't expect many of these main characters to die quick and some I wouldn't expect it at all unless that's the thought if how to end.[/QUOTE]


thats a good point i read somewhere the gay guy died in the books but because his character was s popular in the show they let him live.
 
[quote name='Javery']Please lets not compare the awesome Walking Dead to the god awful True Blood which had one good/great season (Season 1) followed by arguably 3 of the worst seasons of any "good" show in the history of TV. I mean I'm not even sure if I liked Heroes better and that's saying something.

Note: you are exactly right with your analogy though as far as sticking to the source material I just can't stand True Blood (yet I keep watching it as some sort of self-imposed torture).[/QUOTE]

That's your opinion dude. And your Note: was all I was referring to. Not looking to get into a debate of the quality of True Blood.
 
After the ending of mid season-2 I started to read the comics (please don't read unless you are familiar and caught up to both mediums)
So far I like both mediums for it's own merit; at first i couldn't stand the comics (one part being use to 'tv' dialog instead of 'comic' dialog) especially at first cause the writing seem to be geared towards women fearing adolescent males then it got better. A few complaints though, how could the tv show fudge up andrea's character so much and where the fudge is tyrese? I do like how Shane is still alive and how they made Rick the only person able to shoot Sophia (shows his ultimate direction of being capable of making decisions). Also, question concerning the comic, is it possible that Lori is still alive (cause it seems the grimes family are bullet resistant.). What makes me think It's possible is that her death hasn't been confirmed in drawn out extent, the baby could've slowed down the bullet, and the governor being dead. Ultimately I don't think it was possible (but Rick needs to catch a break every now and then).
 
So I just found this thread. You guys do realize this is not a show about Zombies, it is about how people react to the Zombies, right?
 
I think the problem is a lot here read the comics, and the comics are apparently a lot more action packed and that's what people were expecting.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think the problem is a lot here read the comics, and the comics are apparently a lot more action packed and that's what people were expecting.[/QUOTE]

I've read the comics -well at least the first 75 issues or so- and I enjoy the show. The comics have less dialogue, which may make them appear more action packed. There is some stuff in the comics that won't make it to TV, but it is also more for its shock value, than story.

I think they are also pacing the story differently this season to set up some of the bigger events.

I am actually curious what shows "the haters" enjoy. I would like to know what I should be watching. ;)
 
[quote name='dejeckt']After the ending of mid season-2 I started to read the comics (please don't read unless you are familiar and caught up to both mediums)
So far I like both mediums for it's own merit; at first i couldn't stand the comics (one part being use to 'tv' dialog instead of 'comic' dialog) especially at first cause the writing seem to be geared towards women fearing adolescent males then it got better. A few complaints though, how could the tv show fudge up andrea's character so much and where the fudge is tyrese? I do like how Shane is still alive and how they made Rick the only person able to shoot Sophia (shows his ultimate direction of being capable of making decisions). Also, question concerning the comic, is it possible that Lori is still alive (cause it seems the grimes family are bullet resistant.). What makes me think It's possible is that her death hasn't been confirmed in drawn out extent, the baby could've slowed down the bullet, and the governor being dead. Ultimately I don't think it was possible (but Rick needs to catch a break every now and then).
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nah man shes dead theres no way in hell she could have survived that. and as far as andrea goes i dunno its one of the things that had continuosly annoyed me about the show.
 
[quote name='slowdive21']I am actually curious what shows "the haters" enjoy. I would like to know what I should be watching. ;)[/QUOTE]
Boardwalk Empire.
 
[quote name='Jodou']Boardwalk Empire.[/QUOTE]


ive heard nothing but good thing about that id also suggest game of thrones, justfied , treme and happy endings for goofy fun. oh yeah and the misfits.
 
I heart Maggie.

Welp... They can call off the search party... Finally.

There are some pretty bad moments in this show. Still watchable though.
 
[quote name='slowdive21']So I just found this thread. You guys do realize this is not a show about Zombies, it is about how people react to the Zombies, right?[/QUOTE]
You do realize it's about both, right? Right? Don't be so fucking pretentious.
 
It is about both, but they're definitely taking the approach of making it more of a character driven show than an action driven show.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I think the problem is a lot here read the comics, and the comics are apparently a lot more action packed and that's what people were expecting.[/QUOTE]

Damn it, I am disappointed in you dmaul. Its the exact opposite of that. Very few people expected it to be more action packed in the traditional sense. Especially if they read the comic. Again, the comics ARE NOT ACTION PACKED. Please I want someone to find post that specifically say "I want more things to blow up and more gun fights and more zombie punching." NO ONE HAS EVER SAID THAT (who wasnt trying to troll)

The comic has far more drama and tension let me say that one more time drama and tension.......once more DRAMA AND TENSION. It was the fact that no one was safe at any given time that gave the sense that the survivors were truly on their own. A decent amount of the people who died in the comic did so while doing everyday things, preparing lunch, talking with friends, sleeping, going to the bathroom they didnt have to force a traditional movie/tv show set pieces in order for something to happen. That is what made the comic so exciting, the danger trying to hold on to everyday things when the world has gone to shit.

That is the biggest difference, the comic didnt need 13 volumes to build up to a major plot point. The comic would go 30 panels without even mention a zombie and in mid sentence someone would get bit because no one was paying attention. You do not get that from the tv show, which is fine I dont think anyone has said they hated it but when comparing the two most people are finding the TV show to be intentionally drawn out and boring.


Seriously, I want someone to put there money where their mouth is and find some god damn post where people were demanding more action in terms of explosions and crotch kicking. Since that seems to be the main issue of every counter point to what people are saying.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']It is about both, but they're definitely taking the approach of making it more of a character driven show than an action driven show.[/QUOTE]


KEYBOARD PUNCH!!! gffkljsdandkjfas


NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE ACTION FOCUSED!!!!
 
That's what I meant by action. More danger and narrowly escaping hordes of zombies etc.--like there was more of in season one.

I think people are let down that there's not more of that. And I guess it's a fair gripe. That stuff gets old for me as I've always thought zombies were pretty lame as far as monsters go, so I've liked this season more with it's more character driven focus.

I can't speak to what the comics are like as I've never read them and likely never will as I've never been into comics at all. Just see a lot of people unhappy with the series because of how different it is from the comics--be it in plot, or lacking the tension as you note etc. Where as those of us who've never read them don't have that comparison to make and can just enjoy the show (or not) purely on its own merits.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']That's what I meant by action. More danger and narrowly escaping hordes of zombies etc.--like there was more of in season one.

I think people are let down that there's not more of that. And I guess it's a fair gripe. That stuff gets old for me as I've always thought zombies were pretty lame as far as monsters go, so I've liked this season more with it's more character driven focus.

I can't speak to what the comics are like as I've never read them and likely never will as I've never been into comics at all. Just see a lot of people unhappy with the series because of how different it is from the comics--be it in plot, or lacking the tension as you note etc. Where as those of us who've never read them don't have that comparison to make and can just enjoy the show (or not) purely on its own merits.[/QUOTE]


even if it wasnt based on the comics as a "zombie show" its lacking in alot of depts. they talk loudly no matter where they are which if the world is overrun by the dead youd think theyd do their best not to draw attention to where they are.

they seem to have endless supplies of ammo and i can only remember once in the first season where a lack of ammo was brought up as an issue.

tension is what makes zombie stuff worth watching you dont have to have gunfights but you de, as a viewer, need to feel that fear from them that each day they live is a blessing and possibly a curse since you dont know if when your eyes close to sleep that you will open them up again.

thats whats lacking in the show and thats what you get in the comics and in many other zombie things.


you really should check out the comics theyre a very good read.
 
I do agree that there is some stupid stuff like being loud all the time, all of a sudden shooting all kinds of guns despite before needing to save ammo and not wanting to attract walkers with the noise etc.

I'm sure the comics are great, but I doubt I'll ever read them unless the local library gets the collections in. I'm just not big into comics in general (prefer novels) and definitely wouldn't want to spend money to own them as I'd probably never re-read them. But I'd give them a whirl if the library every picks them up and I can just check out the volumes.
 
i can understand not buying the comics if youre not a comic reader why waste the money but if you can find a way to read them for free i say do it its worth it. not to mention the comic deals with alot of the shit youd expect to experience when the shit hits the fan and society falls apart.

one of the coolest plots in the comics dealth with
cannibalism and the shit that went down during that was amazing especially how it all ended.
not to mention that general paranoia of when you finally meet other people youre excited to meet new people who are alive but then you have to wonder if they have any ill intentions.


they also do a great job of showing the slow change in people over time when dealng with being in a dead world.
 
[quote name='MisterModest']You do realize it's about both, right? Right? Don't be so fucking pretentious.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if MisterModest understands irony...or do I have to explain that as well. ;)

Actually according to the comic book/show's creator Robert Kirkman, what I said is accurate.
 
The bitching and whining that others do on the internet about the show not having enough action is completely different from the bitching and whining I'm doing in this thread! How dare you people associate my endless rants with the endless rants of other message board gladiators that serve no purpose and don't do anything to add to the discussion of the show! It's not like our posts resemble each other in any way, shape, or form, and I'm personally insulted that ANY of you would make that connection!
 
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[quote name='slowdive21']I wonder if MisterModest understands irony...or do I have to explain that as well.[/QUOTE]
Nah, Europeans like myself understand irony just fine, it's Americans that usually have the problem with it.

Just because the show's creator said it's a show about how people react to zombies, doesn't mean it's not also a show about zombies.
 
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