Apple ipad

[quote name='porieux']LOL, yeah sure.[/QUOTE]

The number 1 complaint against the iPad is that it doesn't support Flash or AIR.
HP & Adobe release a video of the HP Slate having both of those features and more.

How is that not going for the jugular?
 
Will have to see the price, battery life etc. to see if it's going for the jugular.

I have no interest and will keep holding out for something with an 8.5 x 11 (or close) screen.
 
[quote name='Tony208']They must of picked the worst name possible. Some sickos are gonna rub one of these iPads against their genitals and post it on the internet.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure everything in the history of mankind has been rubbed against someone's genitals and posted on the internet.

just sayin'.
 
My girlfriend is still considering it. Not buying one at launch, but may get one shortly after pending reviews and playing around with one herself etc.
 
mines on the way from China...if your getting one of these you probably will be buying apps/media so now is the time to get discounted itunes credit: Best Buy has 30 gc for 25, if you have a membership, costco has 60 for 48, also might be YMMV but publix has 25 for 20.
 
Out of curiosity, for people that are buying this, what niche are you hoping to fill with it? Has a followup, do you have any other similar devices, such as iPhone, laptop, kindle, netbook, whatever?
 
as a media consumption device...i like gaming apps alot(this is my primary motivation for wanting one), also hoping for cool digital magazines like the new EGM and graphic novels, streaming tv content like hulu/slingbox/mlb tv, movies on the go(have a lot of digital copies from blu rays) and maybe a book once in a very seldom while.

to your 2nd question, i have a touch i got for free with my macbook, an iphone 3g, and all gaming systems. my wife has a kindle.
 
My wife's will be here on Sat. She'll be using it for reading, tv shows and movies as well as slingbox. I'm all for slingbox, as it gets me more gaming time.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']Out of curiosity, for people that are buying this, what niche are you hoping to fill with it? Has a followup, do you have any other similar devices, such as iPhone, laptop, kindle, netbook, whatever?[/QUOTE]

I'm not getting this, but a want a tablet device for reading and marking up academic pdfs, student papers (grading) etc. with a stylus. And I want something thin and light, with good battery life etc.--so no interest in the tablet PCs that are laptops with flip around screens.

Two the second I have a laptop and a Kindle. Kindle is great for novels, useless for PDFs with the 6" screen. Kindle DX isn't great either and lacks stylus markup--and e-ink is too slow for my needs. Fine for reading a novel where you're not flipping through looking for a table etc., not good for academic reading, studying, researching etc.
 
First reviews...

http://gizmodo.com/5506824/first-ipad-reviews-are-in

The WSJ's Walt Mossberg is in love with the iPad's interface and design:

The iPad is an advance in making more-sophisticated computing possible via a simple touch interface on a slender, light device. Only time will tell if it's a real challenger to the laptop and netbook.

USA Today's Edward Baig was impressed:

Apple has pretty much nailed it with this first iPad, though there's certainly room for improvement. Nearly three years after making a splash with the iPhone, Apple has delivered another impressive product that largely lives up to the hype.

NYT's David Pogue was sure to clarify just where the device excels:

The iPad is not a laptop. It's not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it's infinitely more convenient for consuming it - books, music, video, photos, Web, e-mail and so on. For most people, manipulating these digital materials directly by touching them is a completely new experience - and a deeply satisfying one.
PC Mag's Tim Gideon also realizes the iPad's limitations, but praises it nonetheless:

Is the iPad a perfect product? No. And the omissions will give the anti-Apple crowd plenty of ammo. Why do I need this extra device that's not a full-fledged laptop? Where's the camera? What about Flash? Um, how about multitasking? These are all valid complaints, but one thing I can say about most Apple products, and certainly the iPad: There may be things it doesn't do, but what it does do, it does remarkably well. Aside from the aforementioned limitations, there isn't a lot else to gripe about. And to my great surprise, you can actually get real work done with the iPad.

The Houston Chronicle's Bob "Dr. Mac" LeVitus agrees with our thoughts that the iPad is a whole new category of mobile devices:

It turns out the iPad isn't as much a laptop replacement as I thought (though it could easily be used as one). Instead, it's an entirely new category of mobile device. For example, now when I want to surf the Web from the couch or back deck, the iPad is the device I choose. Starbucks? Same thing. Think of the iPad as a new arrow in your technology quiver, an arrow that will often be the best tool for a given task.
I had high expectations for the iPad, and it has met or exceeded most of them.

BoingBoing's Xeni Jardin was thinking ahead while trying out the device:

Maybe the most exciting thing about iPad is the apps that aren't here yet. The book-film-game hybrid someone will bust out in a year, redefining the experience of each, and suggesting some new nouns and verbs in the process. Or an augmented reality lens from NASA that lets you hold the thing up to the sky and pinpoint where the ISS is, next to what constellation, read the names and see the faces of the crew members, check how those fuel cells are holding up.
I like it a lot. But it's the things I never knew it made possible - to be revealed or not in the coming months - that will determine whether I love it.

The Chicago Sun-Times' Andy Ihnatko thought the iPad lived up to all the excitement and hype:

The iPad user experience is instantly compelling and elegant. It's not every computer and every function. It's a computer that's designed for speed, mobility, and tactile interaction above all other considerations.

The Root's Omar Wasow thinks the iPad has something for everyone:

Apple pulled off a remarkable balancing act in that it has designed the iPad in such a way that in can simultaneously appeal to both newbies and nerds. For low-tech users looking for an affordable entry-level PC, the iPad is a computer without all the distractions. [...] For the tech-savvy with $500 to drop on a gadget, the iPad offers a convenient way to consume and enjoy digital media without being tethered to a computer all day.
 
Yeah and videogames are toys too, and we're all posting on a video game site.

As I said, I'm not buying an iPad as it doesn't fit my needs in a tablet device well enough, but I really don't get all the hate and bashing of it. Well I know a lot of it is just the standard apple hate, but at lot seems aimed at tablets in general.

Not everyone needs a full fledged pc for all their needs. I'd love something with a big color screen for reading, making up documents, internet (maybe I'd quit wasting so much time on forums!), video etc. as a tablet is a lot less clunky for a lot of those tasks (especially reading and markup) than a laptop or netbook.

I do think they'll be a niche device, but it can be a sizable niche if they market it right with textbooks, magazines etc., as well as being able to do all the other stuff. So I don't see tablets (or the iPad specifically) as a toy. Just a gadget that can be used for work or leisure. Though it's skimpy on the work side at the time being lacking built in stylus support etc.
 
Thanks for humoring my question(s). I'm fairly interested in studying exactly how people use their gadgets. The iPad in particular raises some worthwhile questions. As one of the reviews put it, it's not so much a Laptop or Smartphone killer, but rather a new form of mobile device all together. However, is this new "arrow in your quiver" an arrow people will use, and perhaps more importantly, continue to use long after the initial cool factor has worn off.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000'] However, is this new "arrow in your quiver" an arrow people will use, and perhaps more importantly, continue to use long after the initial cool factor has worn off.[/QUOTE]

Those are the two key questions for all tablets.

I'm skeptical with the iPad as it seems lacking as an academic reading too (for students and teachers and researchers) with the lack of stylus mark up built in, screen being a tad small for letter sized PDFs etc.

But if anyone can make it catch on, Apple can with their marketing machine. I'm anxious to see what roles out this year in terms of Android tablets etc. Hoping for something with an 8.5"x11" or close screen, robust stylus support for document markup, note taking etc.
 
streaming episodes from abc and cbs...I am sure others will follow, many websites are also adapting their pages to work around lack of flash. i really think this thing is starting to set up to catch fire... I know there are many vocal CAGs that hate it, but I think the mainstream is gonna eat it up.
 
I'm still holding out for HP's slate... or anything else... I think having a Windows platform will shore up any issue and negatives that the ipad has.
 
If you already have an iPhone do you still have to pay for the iPad's data plan or is it included in your AT&T bill already (since I already pay for "unlimited use")?
 
[quote name='javeryh']If you already have an iPhone do you still have to pay for the iPad's data plan or is it included in your AT&T bill already (since I already pay for "unlimited use")?[/QUOTE]

You think AT&T would pass on an opportunity to rape you?

:rofl:

You pay $15 for 250MB of data or $30 for 1 month of 'unlimited' data, though I'm not sure if that would be higher than ATT's phone max of 5GB/month.

There isn't any contract commitment to ATT for data. You can buy access and drop out anytime you want.

Mind you have to pay $130 more up front to even have access to 3G data, and you'll have to wait another month for the 3G version.
 
[quote name='xycury']I'm still holding out for HP's slate... or anything else... I think having a Windows platform will shore up any issue and negatives that the ipad has.[/QUOTE]

Maybe. I don't really want a full Windows (or Mac OS) on a tablet. A full OS will probably eat into battery life, and they have less incentive to make sure it works optimal with just touch input since they're just adapting a keyboard and mouse OS.

But I would like Multitasking, Flash etc. along with the stylus support, larger screen etc. I mentioned before.

As noted, I'm interested to see what rolls out in terms of Android based tablets. Maybe something with a full Windows OS will come out and work great and have great batter life, but I'm skeptical as the mobile and tablet versions of Windows have been underwhelming in the past.


[quote name='seanr1221']Will the HP slate be a TOY?[/QUOTE]

:rofl:
 
[quote name='seanr1221']Will the HP slate be a TOY?[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I wouldn't think so if they kept to a standard Windows OS.

What MS needs to do is create a Windows Tablet OS and not just slap it with their current standings. I haven't seen much of Windows 7 on a tablet and see what it offers.

Currently others like Asus is doing what they did with the Eeepc and having a linux shell that is dummy-downed version of say an Ipad.

I'd like a fully functional pc but just have the LCD tablet and both stylus and finger input.

It's really not that hard to ask, but the only problem I see is the battery power. WinOS isn't that green when it deals with power.

[quote name='dmaul1114']Maybe. I don't really want a full Windows (or Mac OS) on a tablet. A full OS will probably eat into battery life, and they have less incentive to make sure it works optimal with just touch input since they're just adapting a keyboard and mouse OS.

But I would like Multitasking, Flash etc. along with the stylus support, larger screen etc. I mentioned before.

As noted, I'm interested to see what rolls out in terms of Android based tablets. Maybe something with a full Windows OS will come out and work great and have great batter life, but I'm skeptical as the mobile and tablet versions of Windows have been underwhelming in the past.

:rofl:[/QUOTE]

Oh I agree that throwing Win7 on a device like this isn't going to work.

There needs to be dedicated R&D to make a Windows Tablet OS, not just slap it on afterwards.

MS can do it. They proved some of that with their .... Surface OS....

Slate needs multitasking, Flash, and sylus support. It should be the reinvention of the paper on a taskboard.


I'm excited for the future.. but iPad isn't it and won't fulfill my wants. It's a nice start though.

I bet these will have the success it is going, and would compare to the Wii.... all "real gamers" or people that need a 'PC' will just skip it.

The iPad failed for me, but in itself isn't a complete failure. At least Apple proved that it can be done, and I will look forward to anyone else to make it better.
 
[quote name='xycury']It should be the reinvention of the paper on a taskboard.
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Agreed. That's what I'm looking for essentially.

One thing companies need to realize, is that for that to happen we need screens larger than 9.7 inches. At least the 8.5x11 size so people can put any PDF or standard document on it without having to read zoomed out (small text) or in landscape mode with scrolling (annoying, especially for documents with more than one column per page).

A caveat is I also want a full color screen, both for magazines, text books etc. As well as the net, video, games etc.

So I don't want e-ink or something like that. As noted before, e-ink is also painfully slow. It's fine for novel reading or other types of reading where you're not doing anything but flipping ahead one page at a time while reading. Doesn't work for skimming through documents quickly to find info or a passage to quote, and useless for any non-reading tasks.

There's some screen tech on the horizon like Pixel QI, Mirasol etc. that may offer the best of both worlds by having a reflective black and white mode that's similar to e-ink for reading, but also having and lcd (or similar) mode that can do full color, video etc.

But tablets with that tech at an affordable are probably at least a couple years off.

[quote name='xycury']or people that need a 'PC' will just skip it.[/QUOTE]

That I find as kind of a false equivalence.

I don't think many people will by keyboardless tablets to replace a PC or Laptop.

They're meant to supplement those. I'll always have a PC in my office and a work laptop (and sometimes a personal laptop as well).

A tablet will be a supplementary device that is used as an e-reader, document markup tool, and sometimes for light net surfing, watching streaming video etc.

So I see tablets/slates as separate markets. It's not an either/or situation where people decide to buy a laptop or a slate/tablet. People already have laptops and PCs, and they'll be deciding if they need/want a tablet/slate to supplement that.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Agreed. That's what I'm looking for essentially.

One thing companies need to realize, is that for that to happen we need screens larger than 9.7 inches. At least the 8.5x11 size so people can put any PDF or standard document on it without having to read zoomed out (small text) or in landscape mode with scrolling (annoying, especially for documents with more than one column per page).

A caveat is I also want a full color screen, both for magazines, text books etc. As well as the net, video, games etc.

So I don't want e-ink or something like that. As noted before, e-ink is also painfully slow. It's fine for novel reading or other types of reading where you're not doing anything but flipping ahead one page at a time while reading. Doesn't work for skimming through documents quickly to find info or a passage to quote, and useless for any non-reading tasks.

There's some screen tech on the horizon like Pixel QI, Mirasol etc. that may offer the best of both worlds by having a reflective black and white mode that's similar to e-ink for reading, but also having and lcd (or similar) mode that can do full color, video etc.

But tablets with that tech at an affordable are probably at least a couple years off.



That I find as kind of a false equivalence.

I don't think many people will by keyboardless tablets to replace a PC or Laptop.

They're meant to supplement those. I'll always have a PC in my office and a work laptop (and sometimes a personal laptop as well).

A tablet will be a supplementary device that is used as an e-reader, document markup tool, and sometimes for light net surfing, watching streaming video etc.

So I see tablets/slates as separate markets. It's not an either/or situation where people decide to buy a laptop or a slate/tablet. People already have laptops and PCs, and they'll be deciding if they need/want a tablet/slate to supplement that.[/QUOTE]

Well I meant that they want a device that would be like doing everything on a PC. They don't want a skimmed down version of only a consumption device like the iPad.

They would want to edit photos, make a photo book online like my wife is doing but in bed instead of her "work" pc....

I'm thinking that people who want all the same things on doing a PC would want a clone of it in travel form, else it'll not get used.


I think that's where the iPad fits so well because it doesn't replace anything out there... besides a Touch. It's a true companion product.

I could easily skip having a laptop, been wanting to replace it. If I can just find a tablet screen only that I could replace it with.

But that would mean that Tablet software would probably need a leap in R&D.
 
[quote name='xycury']Well I meant that they want a device that would be like doing everything on a PC. They don't want a skimmed down version of only a consumption device like the iPad.

They would want to edit photos, make a photo book online like my wife is doing but in bed instead of her "work" pc....
[/quote]

I imagine the iPad will end doing that kind of stuff through Apps.

I'm thinking that people who want all the same things on doing a PC would want a clone of it in travel form, else it'll not get used.

I think the vast majority of those folk will just still with laptops and netbooks. Those are already PCs in travel form! :D Tablets/slates won't be aimed at people who want full computing ability in such a gadget for the most part IMO.

I think that's where the iPad fits so well because it doesn't replace anything out there... besides a Touch. It's a true companion product.

Agree with that. And that's where tablets have to fit to catch on IMO. They have to appeal as a companion product as they won't replace PCs or laptops for enough people to be a success on that front IMO.

I could easily skip having a laptop, been wanting to replace it. If I can just find a tablet screen only that I could replace it with.

I couldn't I've skipped having a home desktop and now just have my laptop. I'm sitting at my office desk a shit ton of hours already, I can't stand to do it more at home. I prefer my laptop so I can work on the couch, on the balcony, go to the park etc. when I leave the office and go home to work more!

But that would mean that Tablet software would probably need a leap in R&D.

And battery tech. It will be hard to have a tablet that's as powerful and full featured as a PC/laptop and not have the battery life suck.

A tablet/slate needs to be as thin and light as possible, not get hot etc. There's not space for the big batteries you have in laptops, and even those tend to get around 6 hours or so even with the bigger extended battery etc. (probably get 4-4.5 in normal use in my Thinkpad T400 with extended battery).
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I imagine the iPad will end doing that kind of stuff through Apps.

I think the vast majority of those folk will just still with laptops and netbooks. Those are already PCs in travel form! :D Tablets/slates won't be aimed at people who want full computing ability in such a gadget for the most part IMO.

Agree with that. And that's where tablets have to fit to catch on IMO. They have to appeal as a companion product as they won't replace PCs or laptops for enough people to be a success on that front IMO.

I couldn't I've skipped having a home desktop and now just have my laptop. I'm sitting at my office desk a shit ton of hours already, I can't stand to do it more at home. I prefer my laptop so I can work on the couch, on the balcony, go to the park etc. when I leave the office and go home to work more!

And battery tech. It will be hard to have a tablet that's as powerful and full featured as a PC/laptop and not have the battery life suck.

A tablet/slate needs to be as thin and light as possible, not get hot etc. There's not space for the big batteries you have in laptops, and even those tend to get around 6 hours or so even with the bigger extended battery etc. (probably get 4-4.5 in normal use in my Thinkpad T400 with extended battery).[/QUOTE]

Well I don't think they will have Photoshop on the iPad ;) Plus various photo sites to order books, that takes flash or similar web applications, and well.. we know where that stands on the iPad.

More development for 'apps' makes it more of a wait then. So it might get a slow start. I wonder if the app developers could have had more time with a not-so-silent-hype machine that Apple was doing with it.

I have a desktop, but I have been wanting a tablet to do most of what I want away from my desk, travel and in bed. I could get a laptop but they are too heavy and it doesn't "fit" right.

I'd still want all the features though that I can do on my pc... just slower of course because of battery and weight and power.


I had such high hopes too... if Apple wasn't so closed minded, I would have pre-ordered.
 
[quote name='xycury']Well I don't think they will have Photoshop on the iPad ;) Plus various photo sites to order books, that takes flash or similar web applications, and well.. we know where that stands on the iPad.[/quote]

True, but most people aren't editing photos in photoshop, but in much more simplistic fashion is simpler programs.

More development for 'apps' makes it more of a wait then. So it might get a slow start. I wonder if the app developers could have had more time with a not-so-silent-hype machine that Apple was doing with it.

Agreed. I think its probably a bad move for most to buy an iPad at launch vs. waiting and seeing what Apps come out etc. Or maybe waiting for the 2nd generation one to get kinks worked etc.


I have a desktop, but I have been wanting a tablet to do most of what I want away from my desk, travel and in bed. I could get a laptop but they are too heavy and it doesn't "fit" right.

I'd still want all the features though that I can do on my pc... just slower of course because of battery and weight and power.

Fair enough. We just have different needs there since I'm a laptop guy (hate being stuck to a desk) so I'll always have one and use that for travel etc. So I don't need full features in a tablet, as it will be an e-reading/document markup tool for me, as well as a media consumption device.

I had such high hopes too... if Apple wasn't so closed minded, I would have pre-ordered.

I don't think they were close minded. You're just not in their target market. They want to target the mainstream who may want something between their phone and their laptop for mainly media consumption purposes, reading, video, net surfing etc.

Apple has never much in recent years focused on the business type of market who want gadgets for work related purposes etc. Even with their desktops and laptops the ad campaigns aren't geared toward that crowd at all, even though they're fine for that purpose.

So people like you who want a full featured tablet will have to wait on windows and maybe android based tablets. I don't need full featured, but I'm waiting as well as I don't think the iPad will be very good for document markup purposes with a 9.7" screen and not being designed around a stylus.
 
I hate how much the media loves to suck Apple's fuck. I'm so sick of hearing next iphone this and iphone killer that. It's not so much that I don't like Apple; I hate the hype.
 
The iPad in general falls under the "Jack of all trades, Master of none" category. You can use it to read stuff, but you can't really use it to make notes on what you're reading. You can use it to do basic photo editing, but if you're looking for anything advanced you're still going to need a proper computing machine.

I think the most annoying to me is the complete lack of ports out of the box. Sure, I can download movies and put it on the iPad, but if I want to start watching it on the TV, there's no HDMI out. Even then, it can't do 1080p. I want to put my powerpoint presentation on a projector, I can't - again, no HDMI, VGA, DVI, or hell, even USB. I know eventually they'll have a half-dozen dongles that will fix this, but with Apple's prices, it'd raise the cost of the iPad at least $100.

I'm also kind of surprised people are so...enthusiastic towards the AppStore. Around here at least, people hate DD content. The iPhone's apps have usually slipped under the radar since many were free or very cheap, but if the initial leaks are to be believed, that will no longer be the case for the iPad. Can you even use iPad apps anywhere but the iPad?

Finally, any word on what kind of security the iPad employs? I imagine stealing one of these could provide a treasure trove of details about the user, especially if it's a user's primary computer / primary laptop. Having access to e mail effortlessly...apps could very well reveal what bank the user uses...address book provides where the user lives...
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']
I'm also kind of surprised people are so...enthusiastic towards the AppStore. Around here at least, people hate DD content. The iPhone's apps have usually slipped under the radar since many were free or very cheap, but if the initial leaks are to be believed, that will no longer be the case for the iPad. Can you even use iPad apps anywhere but the iPad?
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Well we hate DD for games, for example, as many of us buy/trade used games and ditch a game as soon as we beat it. I don't like many games enough to spend money I can't recoup on them. Gaming is probably at the bottom of my hobby list, and I'm not sure I'll buy another console.

Movies I'd rather rent or buy a disc for collecting purposes--but I'm open to pay streaming services as I so seldomly watch any of the 300+ movies I own these days as I barely have time to watch my disc rentals from Netflix. Music I stick with CDs as I like having liner notes etc.

With books I've moved to DD by buying a Kindle. Books I've bought have all been $9.99 or less, and I have no problem paying that to read a book once (seldom re-read) and not have to hassle with storing the book, selling/donating it, hassling with the library (limited selection, due dates etc.). So, in general I'm not opposed to the idea of DD. Just for some types of things I'm not a fan for collecting reasons, or wanting to trade games etc.

With software, I don't care about DD at all. I don't resell software, I'm buying it to use on 1 maybe 2 machines in case of PC software, and it's not something I'll use for the rest of my life, but for just a few years until a newer version is out. And a lot of programs are limited licenses to one machine or user these days, only good for a year etc.

Price does matter, of course. At $10 or less I'm fine buying a program for just one device. If they have iPad apps (or android apps when those tablets roll out) that cost more than that, then I'd have serious reservations. Same with my e-book example, $10 and under is fine, get above that and I'll probably skip that book until the e-book price drops.
 
apps are now appearing on itunes: some cooler looking ones I noticed were geometry wars, plants vs zombies hd, espn scorecenter, NY Times Editors choice, MLB
 
Nice, Aji put out a PDF reader app for the iPad.

It's called iAnnotate PDF. Tabbed PDFs? Awesome.

Looks like my wallet will be hurting after Saturday...
 
[quote name='seanr1221']First reviews...

http://gizmodo.com/5506824/first-ipad-reviews-are-in


BoingBoing's Xeni Jardin was thinking ahead while trying out the device:

Maybe the most exciting thing about iPad is the apps that aren't here yet.[/QUOTE]

I'm so fucking tired of hearing this shit. They talk about it like there are new and ground breaking apps when really 2/3 of them are repackaged shit they charge that you can do over the internet on a web site... :roll:
 
If the iPad supported Flash and also had a DVD drive so I could throw in a movie and watch it I'd get it in a heartbeat. Maybe version 2. I honestly love the concept but it's not quite there yet.
 
Flash is a big omission I agree.

I doubt we'll see many tablets with DVD drives though as spinning a disc sucks battery life, and again a small, thing tablet can't have a a bit laptop or portable DVD player battery to compensate.

But with a Netflix app, TV network aps, a Hulu app rumored (to get around lack of flash) and I presume ability to watch digital versions that come with a lot of movies these days the iPad would still be ok for me for tv/movie purposes if I were to get a 2nd gen or later model down the road if some of my other concerns are addressed.
 
Yeah, I'm really hoping by the time the next version is released there will be apps or workarounds for those issues. I could see myself using it way more than my laptop while at home on the couch for general web-surfing and email, and then thought that if it had a slot-loading DVD drive it would be about perfect. The reviews claim about 12 hours battery life, so I don't see why it shouldn't be able to handle a 2-hour movie. Alas, I doubt if it'll ever have one, but it would be tremendously useful as a portable DVD player.
 
[quote name='keithp'] The reviews claim about 12 hours battery life, so I don't see why it shouldn't be able to handle a 2-hour movie. Alas, I doubt if it'll ever have one, but it would be tremendously useful as a portable DVD player.[/QUOTE]

Oh it should be able to finish a movie. I just figure Apple is so big on touting high battery life they won't want to read reviews of it dying shortly after a movie etc.

It's moot for me as I've never even watched a DVD on a laptop, much less owned a portable DVD player. Hate watching movies on small screens. But maybe they'll add a drive in a future generation for those who do.
 
They'll never add a DVD drive. It just defeats the purpose. You might have some external drive support or something, but I doubt that too.
 
Agreed. Apple are huge pushers of digital content. They want people buying movies, tv shows etc. through iTunes so I find it highly unlikely they'll support DVD or Blu Ray drives in the iPad ever. It could happen, but it's very, very unlikely.
 
I think its very clear that everything software related is going to be digital content eventually - tapes, floppies, carts, CD's, DVD's, BuRays....to a cloud in the sky.
 
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