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Arafat Will Never be Allowed to Return to Palestine: Civil War Ahead
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alonzomourning23
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The last ounce of trust I had in israel went out the window when one of sharon's top aides stated that israel deliberately undermined and torpedoed the peace process. Though, merely looking at it from israel's own self interest, they can't have it look like they killed arafat. No person as important as arafat (at least who isn't a coward) would leave believing he could not return. That was why he insisted on isreali assurance that he would be allowed back in, he likely would have died in ramallah if the assurance wasn't given. Besides, I think Isreal feels he's going to die sooner rather than later, so why make the situation worse by making him die earlier and getting blamed for it. For the first time, because of the disengagement plan, conflict is no longer beneficial to sharon.
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I predict even worse than civil war: Hamas becomes more or less the government, if not in name just de facto.
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PLO can blow me, bunch of 
in terrorists
in terrorists
elprincipe
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[quote name='David85'][quote name='E-Z-B']I bet arafat will be dead in a couple days. That's my prediction.[/quote]
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.
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"one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
If anyone ever fit that quote it's arafat. So many sides to him. Statesman, terrorist etc. Even many of those in palestine who hate his government and his rule in particular still regard him as a freedom fighter, while many around the world simple disregard him entirely as a terrorist and a thug. In my opinion all may be true (though I wouldn't call him a thug), and in different period of his life some were more true than others. At least there's one thing that most seem to agree on, he's no coward.
If anyone ever fit that quote it's arafat. So many sides to him. Statesman, terrorist etc. Even many of those in palestine who hate his government and his rule in particular still regard him as a freedom fighter, while many around the world simple disregard him entirely as a terrorist and a thug. In my opinion all may be true (though I wouldn't call him a thug), and in different period of his life some were more true than others. At least there's one thing that most seem to agree on, he's no coward.
[quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='David85'][quote name='E-Z-B']I bet arafat will be dead in a couple days. That's my prediction.[/quote]
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.[/quote]
I disagree. The world is better off without some people.
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.[/quote]
I disagree. The world is better off without some people.
alonzomourning23
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Though I do admit my view of him isn't nearly as harsh as many here. In my mind he used terrorism as a means to an end (similar to, and influenced by, the zionists who used it to form the state of Israel) and not as the end in and of itself (such as bin laden). His failure is the corruption of his government, and that he did not stop the current terrorism, terrorism which is no longer beneficial (not that it was justifiable before), but I wonder if anyone really can. I'm not sure how you destroy a resistance group that gains its public support because of oppression and occupation (as well as the charitable work it does through orphanages, soup kitchens etc., things which cannot be underestimated when 70% if the population is below the world poverty line), when both of those are still occuring, let alone a resistance group that may be stronger than you. Also, while there is a vast difference between the secular arafat and the religious resistance groups, at least he can exercise some moderating influence over them (though even that seems to be weakening lately) due to his status as a symbol of palestinian statehood. Who else but arafat has the power to do anything to control groups like hamas, groups dominated by the more radical younger generation.
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[quote name='Ruined'][quote name='elprincipe'][quote name='David85'][quote name='E-Z-B']I bet arafat will be dead in a couple days. That's my prediction.[/quote]
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.[/quote]
I disagree. The world is better off without some people.[/quote]
Undoubtably that is true, but I'd rather have these people locked up for the rest of their lives instead of killed. Killing someone is wrong, no matter what they have done. Obviously, I understand that sometimes capturing these people and imprisoning them isn't feasible.
Let's hope so.[/quote]
It's sad to hope that somebody dies, even if he is a murderous thug of a terrorist.[/quote]
I disagree. The world is better off without some people.[/quote]
Undoubtably that is true, but I'd rather have these people locked up for the rest of their lives instead of killed. Killing someone is wrong, no matter what they have done. Obviously, I understand that sometimes capturing these people and imprisoning them isn't feasible.
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I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.
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[quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.
alonzomourning23
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[quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).
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[quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
PittsburghAfterDark
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Why can I imagine Quackzilla sitting around singing:
"In my country there is problem.
And the problem is the Jews.
So throw the Jews down the well.
So my country can be free."
"In my country there is problem.
And the problem is the Jews.
So throw the Jews down the well.
So my country can be free."
CTLesq
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[quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.
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[quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.[/quote]
Yeah, it's their fault for surviving the Halocaust.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.[/quote]
Yeah, it's their fault for surviving the Halocaust.
alonzomourning23
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[quote name='gamefreak'][quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='CTLesq'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.[/quote]
Yeah, it's their fault for surviving the Halocaust.[/quote]
I think it was obvious that I was saying antisemitism in europe was an indirect cause, not the jews survival of the holocaust, especially since I said "and others who preached antisemitism".
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Why not just say it:
Blame the evil Jew.[/quote]
I think that would be blaming zionists, not jews as a whole. Besides, most people believe one side is more at fault than the other, it's just blaming palestinians doesn't have the same effect since no one really tried to exterminate all of them, saying Israel is more difficult since it always carries the risk of being called antisemitic. Though, indirectly (since they didn't actually start the fighting) you should blame britain for adding it into their empire to begin with, removing authority from the native muslim, jewish and christian population (which, more or less, coexisted without many problems). You could also blame the germans (and others who preached antisemitism) for creating a situation where zionism spread among jewish people. If it wasn't for ww2 the zionists probably would never have gained the support needed in the western world, and even among other jewish people. Though it's worth noting that many terrorists groups (such as fatah) were greatly influenced by the zionists, which succesfully used terrorism to gain their nation, and in particular the bombing of the king david hotel. Also, it's worth noting, the mastermind of that attack later became the first prime minister of Israel (something arafat would be well aware of).[/quote]
My mistake: dirty, evil Jew.[/quote]
Yeah, it's their fault for surviving the Halocaust.[/quote]
I think it was obvious that I was saying antisemitism in europe was an indirect cause, not the jews survival of the holocaust, especially since I said "and others who preached antisemitism".
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WHAT THE IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!
NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.
IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?! NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.
sblymnlcrymnl
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[quote name='Quackzilla']WHAT THE shaq-fu IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!
NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.[/quote]
Indeed. I didn't take it as anti semetic, which I hope was evident by my response ( )
NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.[/quote]
Indeed. I didn't take it as anti semetic, which I hope was evident by my response (
)
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']Indeed. I didn't take it as anti semetic, which I hope was evident by my response ( )[/quote]
Yes, your response was good.
But PAD's poem made me ashamed to live in the same hemisphere.
)[/quote]Yes, your response was good.
But PAD's poem made me ashamed to live in the same hemisphere.
[quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
how is it the jews fault when the UN gave them a plan to divide palestine between them and the arabs. then the arabs rejected it. once israel declared independence in 1948, the arabs attack israel.
so israel declaring independence is them instigating a fight?
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
how is it the jews fault when the UN gave them a plan to divide palestine between them and the arabs. then the arabs rejected it. once israel declared independence in 1948, the arabs attack israel.
so israel declaring independence is them instigating a fight?
CTLesq
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[quote name='Quackzilla']WHAT THE shaq-fu IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!?!
NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.[/quote]
Hey Ass f uck - your statement did nothing other than blame Jews.
So when you only hold one side accountable - and you do so because they are all lumped together based on religion, which happens to be Jewish - yes it could be construed as anti-semetic.
I said nothing about Muslims one way or another in this post.
NOTHING I SAID WAS ANTI SEMETIC!
What is it with you pieces of shit? Do you hate the Muslims SO MUCH that anybody who doesn't support their enemies is an anti semetic terrorist lover?
America has a problem, and that problem is bigoted assholes like you.[/quote]
Hey Ass f uck - your statement did nothing other than blame Jews.
So when you only hold one side accountable - and you do so because they are all lumped together based on religion, which happens to be Jewish - yes it could be construed as anti-semetic.
I said nothing about Muslims one way or another in this post.
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Oh my god, I can't believe you asshats.
Btw, how clever of you to add a space to f uck and bypass the censor.
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Btw, how clever of you to add a space to f uck and bypass the censor.
=]
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[quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die!
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die!
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[quote name='gamefreak'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
Idiot racists make me sad. 
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
Idiot racists make me sad.
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[quote name='gamefreak'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
You are screwed up.
The Palestinians were defending their land.
Just because the Israeli people were fleeing genocide didn't give them the right to start a military occupation of Palestine.
And there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the current generation to use said genocide as and excuse, because they didn't experience it firsthand.
Today in America many black people demand slave reparations, but they don't get it.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
You are screwed up.
The Palestinians were defending their land.
Just because the Israeli people were fleeing genocide didn't give them the right to start a military occupation of Palestine.
And there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the current generation to use said genocide as and excuse, because they didn't experience it firsthand.
Today in America many black people demand slave reparations, but they don't get it.
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[quote name='Quackzilla'][quote name='gamefreak'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
You are screwed up.
The Palestinians were defending their land.
Just because the Israeli people were fleeing genocide didn't give them the right to start a military occupation of Palestine.
And there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the current generation to use said genocide as and excuse, because they didn't experience it firsthand.
Today in America many black people demand slave reparations, but they don't get it.[/quote]
And they shouldn't. Maybe they should consider living in America instead of starving to death or dying of aids in africa their "reparations".
Ok, that may be a bit to far but I don't think anyone should get free money.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
Yeah, you're right. The fact that we gave them that stuff made it worse for the Muslims who valiently tried to push the Jewish oppresors off their Allah-given land. No virgins for the Jews when they die![/quote]
You are screwed up.
The Palestinians were defending their land.
Just because the Israeli people were fleeing genocide didn't give them the right to start a military occupation of Palestine.
And there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for the current generation to use said genocide as and excuse, because they didn't experience it firsthand.
Today in America many black people demand slave reparations, but they don't get it.[/quote]
And they shouldn't. Maybe they should consider living in America instead of starving to death or dying of aids in africa their "reparations".
Ok, that may be a bit to far but I don't think anyone should get free money.
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[quote name='munch'][quote name='Quackzilla']I think what keeps getting forgotten is that Israel instigated the conflict right after World War 2.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
how is it the jews fault when the UN gave them a plan to divide palestine between them and the arabs. then the arabs rejected it. once israel declared independence in 1948, the arabs attack israel.
so israel declaring independence is them instigating a fight?[/quote]
In his twisted mind, yes. I'm sure he also feels that the 1967 war was Israel's fault.
The fact that the US gave the Israelis tanks, guns, explosives, and bulldozers just made things worse, and can be identified as the single act of anti Muslim terrorism that turned the Arab world against western nations.[/quote]
how is it the jews fault when the UN gave them a plan to divide palestine between them and the arabs. then the arabs rejected it. once israel declared independence in 1948, the arabs attack israel.
so israel declaring independence is them instigating a fight?[/quote]
In his twisted mind, yes. I'm sure he also feels that the 1967 war was Israel's fault.
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No, I was mistaken, it was Arafat's fault that Israel occupied Palestine and a part of Egypt, and it was Arafat's fault that the US supported the occupation of Palestine and supplies many powerful weapons to Israel and turned the Arab world against western nations.
I don't know how he did it, but Arafat must be an evil genious specialising in global conspiracy.
I don't know how he did it, but Arafat must be an evil genious specialising in global conspiracy.
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Sheesh, you say something that doesn't paint israel as perfect, pure, and infallible and all of the idiot racist assholes start calling you anti semetic ...
bread's done