Assassin's Creed - Gen. Discussion & Info

yea even though its repetitious Im really enjoying it

Im now on the last kill, and Im literally killing any guard I see lol

The story is coming together well too, they really scored on the story.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.[/quote]

That's a really ridiculous thing to say. I mean the game has a few flaws and some might like the game less than others for them but to act like the game wasn't enjoyable in the least shows a completely lack of appreciation for how tremendous the game is even with some issues.
 
I picked this up today, I was going to wait, but I figured what the heck, it put me over the $20 threshold for RewardZone points.
 
[quote name='Surferflames']I thought it was funny how the Mass Effect reviewers has almost as much bad stuff to say, yet it got a considerably better score.

My only complaint about AC is the repetition, but I've already gotten more enjoyment out of it than I did bioshock, which the games media had a hard on for, all 8 hours of it.[/QUOTE]

How do you know they gave Mass Effect a higher score? Thier review isn't up yet (or at least I can't find it).
 
Wait, so critics should only review things they like? By that standard everything would always recieve a positive review. I don't think this Crispin character went into Assassin's Creed wanting to hate it. It seemed rather the opposite where he had high expectations and they fell short of it. A fair point, nonetheless.

I'm actually kind of glad this game has been getting dissapointing reviews. See, this was one of my most anticipated games of the year, so if I were a critic and got to play the game before any reviews started coming out, I too would have been dissapointed and probably scored it even lower due to how far it fell short of my expectations. But after reading all these reviews my expectations dropped signifacantly and now I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much I'm liking the game. Granted I am only about 3 hours in (I've just cokpleted my first assassination and all sub-quests, save rescuing the citizens). I can see why critics railed against it; the game design is rather tired with bland missions filling up most of the game, but running around the city is so fun that I don't really mind. I mean a lot of critics complained about how lame the eavesdropping missions are; you just sit on a bench and press the "listen" button. But I'd prefer that to long, drawn out missions with poor checkpointing. I mean these so-called "missions" are more or less just an excuse to make you run around town, which thankfully, happens to be a lot of fun. So yeah, there's a ton of wasted potential in this game, but what is there is really good and deffinitely worth a rental if nothing else.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Guys, watch the new 1upshow. The reviewer from EGM and 1up are talking about AC with two other guys.

The two guys that didnt review said it was a pretty good game and it has some flaws but its whole package was really well done.

The Two reviewers had nothing nice to say all Crispin said was, "The game sucked. I hope they dont make a 2nd cause I dont want to play it" ...

Wait to put a reviewer on a game he hates... its like putting me on a Dragon Ball Z game, I hate dragon ball z so im gonna say the game sucked.[/QUOTE]
Wait, so critics should only review things they like? By that standard everything would always recieve a positive review. I don't think this Crispin character went into Assassin's Creed wanting to hate it. It seemed rather the opposite where he had high expectations and they fell short of it. A fair point, nonetheless.

I'm actually kind of glad this game has been getting dissapointing reviews. See, this was one of my most anticipated games of the year, so if I were a critic and got to play the game before any reviews started coming out, I too would have been dissapointed and probably scored it even lower due to how far it fell short of my expectations. But after reading all these reviews my expectations dropped signifacantly and now I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much I'm liking the game. Granted I am only about 3 hours in (I've just cokpleted my first assassination and all sub-quests, save rescuing the citizens). I can see why critics railed against it; the game design is rather tired with bland missions filling up most of the game, but running around the city is so fun that I don't really mind. I mean a lot of critics complained about how lame the eavesdropping missions are; you just sit on a bench and press the "listen" button. But I'd prefer that to long, drawn out missions with poor checkpointing. I mean these so-called "missions" are more or less just an excuse to make you run around town, which thankfully, happens to be a lot of fun. So yeah, there's a ton of wasted potential in this game, but what is there is really good and deffinitely worth a rental if nothing else.
 
I too just finished the first assassination. The quests are a bit repetitive, especially in a long play session, but it's kinda like Spider-Man 2. There aren't too many of them, and there's not a lot to do in each one (they're quick), plus half the fun is getting there.

That being said, both the "storyline" and the Free Running are among some of the funnest stuff in the game.

My girlfriend, a Middle Eastern studies major, really enjoys watching me play (in fact, she's playing right now, and she hardly ever plays games other than like Puzzle Quest), she says a lot of the architecture as well as the Arabic writing (she can read Arabic) is pretty accurate on everything, a lot of attention to detail.

One thing that got a laugh out of me is the "please don't be offended" opening screen. Well done.
 
Well I beat the game and if they can
*CAUTION* DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THE GAME *CAUTION*
continue to balance two stories as they did in this one and do it fairly well, I don't really mind the twist. so after viewing the text on the wall and watching the credits then getting my 50 gamerpoints is that it? Nothing else to do?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I'm too the point now where even though you need 2 or 3 clues to start a mission, I like to complete all of them.[/QUOTE]
I don't do all of them, but I do more than what's needed.

Running around and exploring is just fun.
 
[quote name='lordwow']I too just finished the first assassination. The quests are a bit repetitive, especially in a long play session, but it's kinda like Spider-Man 2. There aren't too many of them, and there's not a lot to do in each one (they're quick), plus half the fun is getting there.

That being said, both the "storyline" and the Free Running are among some of the funnest stuff in the game.

My girlfriend, a Middle Eastern studies major, really enjoys watching me play (in fact, she's playing right now, and she hardly ever plays games other than like Puzzle Quest), she says a lot of the architecture as well as the Arabic writing (she can read Arabic) is pretty accurate on everything, a lot of attention to detail.

One thing that got a laugh out of me is the "please don't be offended" opening screen. Well done.[/quote]

That screen made me chuckle too, and I know they'd get complaints without it.

I also love how they explain that the Animus translates some things into modern dialogue as to not confuse the user.
 
[quote name='SpikeSpiegel']Well I beat the game and if they can
*CAUTION* DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU HAVE YET TO COMPLETE THE GAME *CAUTION*
continue to balance two stories as they did in this one and do it fairly well, I don't really mind the twist. so after viewing the text on the wall and watching the credits then getting my 50 gamerpoints is that it? Nothing else to do?
[/quote]

how long di it take u to beat the game
 
[quote name='dpadilla4']how long di it take u to beat the game[/quote] Like 16 hours, I played it almost non-stop though. I did like maybe half the rescue misisons and only killed templars and picked up flags when I saw them.
 
Wow, Tom from Eurogamer was right. I played this last night for a few hours and absolutely loved it, so I was all excited to play it some more today after work, but damn, it really took a dive in quality even though it's still the exact same thing (or perhaps because of this). I mean I knew the game was going to be repetitive, but I didn't really mind as it seemed like a game that was so fun that I wouldn't mind the repetition, but somehow it did manage to get real old real quick. I'm still going to beat it and I am enjoying it alright granted I only do the minimal amount of missions necessary, but somehow the desire to complete every investigation died out all of a sudden.
 
i've played 3 hours of it so far and granted it's been fun for that amount of time, but i just hope i don't regret buying it after putting some more time into it
 
Just beat the game and I loved the twist at the end. Was definately bizzare, but I really enjoyed it. I absolutely cannot wait for sequels now... the possibilities... :drool:
 
The game is awesome. It has been the only game in a while to grasp me in to their world and have me play for hours straight I haven't been up this late playing a game in a while and I am happy about it. One of my top picks this year is Assassins Creed and I don't understand how any reviewers gave it in the 7's or even low 8's it just doesn't deserve it. I did notice the frame rate issues, but they didn't really destroy me in anyway. I am defiantly suggesting this game to anyone who wants an original non fps game since it has been a while. Also I have Cod4 I know you can't compare, but it really isn't good at all to me and if your thinking about what you should get if your stuck between the two Cod4 doesn't even deserve a chance.
 
[quote name='Bazz']The game is awesome. It has been the only game in a while to grasp me in to their world and have me play for hours straight I haven't been up this late playing a game in a while and I am happy about it. One of my top picks this year is Assassins Creed and I don't understand how any reviewers gave it in the 7's or even low 8's it just doesn't deserve it. I did notice the frame rate issues, but they didn't really destroy me in anyway. I am defiantly suggesting this game to anyone who wants an original non fps game since it has been a while. Also I have Cod4 I know you can't compare, but it really isn't good at all to me and if your thinking about what you should get if your stuck between the two Cod4 doesn't even deserve a chance.[/quote]

Not all gamers like the repetition. IMO a 8 is completely deserved and the rating Im giving it as I head to the end (at the 8th kill). That's not a bad rating. I agree with a lot of the negative reviewers' points but I also agree with some of the praise.

I like it a lot, but to say COD4 doesnt even compare is folly, but to each their own. I have felt nothing like I did in this game like I did playing All Ghillied Up/One Shot One Kill, and the fact that COD4 is probably the best MP game on Live EVER, that's a pretty bold statement. If I was going to suggest, rent Creed, buy COD4 its not even an argument, especially if you enjoy multi. You sound biased against FPS to begin with. Not flaming btw. I feel the same way at times, but COD4 is fantastic. Creed is just good.

I like Creed, and am enjoying it, but the repetition in investigations and chatter in the streets brings it down a notch or two. They really dropped the ball on the investigations end. It would not have taken much to add more variety on that angle.
 
Just finished the game...

While I'm still left feeling that it lacked variety in certain areas, the story MORE than made up for it. I don't think replay value is that high, but the ending was perfect all considering. My only other gripe is that I wish they included skill settings, because I found it a bit easy.

I knew that Mualim was bad, first time I saw him I thought "Saruman" :lol:

The ending was cryptic as hell and until Lucy was revealed as a spy, I thought that Kristen Bell was rather useless otherwise.

The fact that there can be and most likely will be sequels is great, the depth of the story and the fact it WAS "futuristic" in aspects opens the door to so many things and places they can go with the game and improve on the mistakes they made with this one.

Great Franchise in the making.

All in all I'm happy with the game. It has its shortcomings, but the depth of the story made up for it.
 
[quote name='archibishopthedoge']Not all gamers like the repetition. IMO a 8 is completely deserved and the rating Im giving it as I head to the end (at the 8th kill). That's not a bad rating. I agree with a lot of the negative reviewers' points but I also agree with some of the praise.

I like it a lot, but to say COD4 doesnt even compare is folly, but to each their own. I have felt nothing like I did in this game like I did playing All Ghillied Up/One Shot One Kill, and the fact that COD4 is probably the best MP game on Live EVER, that's a pretty bold statement. If I was going to suggest, rent Creed, buy COD4 its not even an argument, especially if you enjoy multi. You sound biased against FPS to begin with. Not flaming btw. I feel the same way at times, but COD4 is fantastic. Creed is just good.

I like Creed, and am enjoying it, but the repetition in investigations and chatter in the streets brings it down a notch or two. They really dropped the ball on the investigations end. It would not have taken much to add more variety on that angle.[/quote]I think I am just done with FPS to many of them just keep coming out and I was expecting cod4 campaign to be way better cause cod2 was just amazing to me.
 
Just beat the game. LOVED IT!

To those that are skeptical about it. DONT listen to the shaqfuing shaq shaqfuing fuingshaqs of Reviewers. Just get this game, go in it with an open mind and follow the story and DONT rush it. I could tell how HORRIBLE the game is if you rush it, I was trying to rush at the end and it was so unfun and frusturating... So just relax and play it, and if you get anxious just take a break.

GOTY.

Although I hated the last 3 kills of the "REAL" 9 investigation parts. I WAS SO fuckING PISSED. Because there was like 50 times more guards and they all caught you if you pumped into ANYONE... it was so frusturating doing the investigation missions. So I just plowed through it and only did the minimal stuff. Im gonna go back for the achievements.

I didn't get the Lucy Talking achievement... what gives?! And can pleaseeee someone tell me how to do the Jump From a Roof Top Assassination kill? I've seen it in videos, and I know you can do it... but I think I only did it once accidently to a peasant lol. Is it hard to pull off?


ALSO, OMG THE FINAL BOSS WAS SO EASY! HAHAHA! Anyone know the cheap tactic? Hidden Blade FTW.. LOL! I killed the final boss in ONE hit. They need to fix that... Hidden Blade is way way to powerful.

Buildings found submerged around Yonaguni predate any other known buildings in the world, so expect any Japanese ancestor tales to take place before Assassin's Creed 1.

Omg omg omg! Ninja Creed!? Oh please!!! =D =D

The story...was...fantastic.... I was a little confused but that interview helped me get some stuff. Omg, best story ever.... I love it... love it... 1up can suck a monkey dick for giving it a 7. A game with THIS amazing visuals, animation and STORY deserves no less than a 8.5-9.

I give the entire game a:
9.5
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']People say Jade was to much of the face for AC.

But, I think Jade = Cliffy B.[/QUOTE]
Nah, Cliffy seems to be a douche, Jade at least seems to be likeable.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']
ALSO, OMG THE FINAL BOSS WAS SO EASY! HAHAHA! Anyone know the cheap tactic? Hidden Blade FTW.. LOL! I killed the final boss in ONE hit. They need to fix that... Hidden Blade is way way to powerful.
[/quote]
None of the 9 people on your list to assassinate are 'bosses.' That's what I liked about the game. They were just high ranking, regular people. Towards the end some of the 'bosses' wouldn't let you hit them with your sword, they'd always counter it. You're supposed to counter their move and assassinate them when they're on the ground. It wasn't too easy.
 
Without spoilers, is there much to the game after you finish the 9 assassinations(I'm on the 4th)? I just wanna see if I'm gauging my progress correctly.

For anyone wanting to maximize their achievements, you have to get on these two from the very beginning or you'll have to start a new game...

(Spoilers take place within 5 minutes of you starting the game)

You need to talk with Lucy after/before memory blocks. Basically, walk up to her when the doctor's not in the room(usually you're prompted to get some rest) and you can initiate a conversation. Eventually she'll tell you "Can't talk, gotta work" or "Get some rest" and that tells you that you're finished with that.

Also, complete all side-missions before killing your assassination targets. That means getting all view points, saving all citizens and completing all the investigations beyond the 2 minimum.

If you mess the second achievement up I think you can revisit your memory and do that part over on your current save but no such luck on the Lucy achievement.
 
Do the kill count achievements track between sessions? So if I turn off my game will I still have X counter kills racked up?

Also, I seem to be a getting a lot of disc read errors going into/out of Acre - anyone have this issue? I'm completely fine IN the city, it's just the zoning issue.
 
Can someone help me with the Blade in The Crowd achievement?

I've tried everything, stealth assassinations, overt, ect. Cannot get this for the life of me. Also, does the achievement pop up as soon as you do it, or later after you fast forward your memory?
 
[quote name='whoknows']Nah, Cliffy seems to be a douche, Jade at least seems to be likeable.[/QUOTE]

Thats just the point. I feel they used her as eye candy to get people to pay attention to this game.
 
[quote name='Mojimbo']Without spoilers, is there much to the game after you finish the 9 assassinations(I'm on the 4th)? I just wanna see if I'm gauging my progress correctly.[/quote]

Not really. That's pretty much all of it unless you're going for the templars/flags.

[quote name='halfbent']Do the kill count achievements track between sessions? So if I turn off my game will I still have X counter kills racked up?[/quote]

They track, yes.

[quote name='Calamityuponthee']Can someone help me with the Blade in The Crowd achievement?[/quote]

Are you stealth assassinating [don't hold RT] the target from behind while being completely anonymous?

If so, that's weird, you should have got it.
 
[quote name='AvidWriter']Thats just the point. I feel they used her as eye candy to get people to pay attention to this game.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know who she was until that comic :lol:
 
[quote name='Trakan'] Are you stealth assassinating [don't hold RT] the target from behind while being completely anonymous?

If so, that's weird, you should have got it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.

Also, another question if you can... The combo one, kill 50 or whatever using combos... is that just where you keep pressing X? Hoping it doesn't slay him in a single hit?
 
[quote name='Calamityuponthee']
Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.

Also, another question if you can... The combo one, kill 50 or whatever using combos... is that just where you keep pressing X? Hoping it doesn't slay him in a single hit?[/quote]
As long as the indicator is not flashing/beeping you should be alright. That's how I got it.

You probably won't have such a good chance on the later targets, but you can go back and replay the other missions. I did it on the doctor.

Combos are when you keep pressing X and it goes into the animation, yes. I think it might be glitched though, because it had felt like I had way more than 50 when it finally unlocked for me.
 
[quote name='Calamityuponthee']
Yes, but the indicator might have been yellow/red. (like, not flashing red) so I assume that's still anonymous?

I'm on the seventh one, you think I'll have another chance to do it? They seem to be getting harder to remain so quiet.
[/quote]

Yeah, just replay it and do it on the doctor. That's where I got it. Just make sure those crazy guys don't push you.

Those damn crazy guys have caused me into so much trouble...
 
Am I missing something or can you not manually save your game, or revert to a previous saved game in this game? I wanted to retry a few assassinations but can't figure out how.
 
Anybody else felt it was impossible to assassinate that Templar captain (forgot his name) the way it was demonstrated in that video walkthrough months back?

As for going back to other assassinations, you can replay the different
memory blocks
you've completed,
through the Animus
. But that's about it.
 
Just beat it, got 815/1000 points. Not to shabby.

The game was great. Very refreshing change of pace. I'd personally rate it a 9.0, like gamespot did.

The repetition with side quests is my biggest, and basically only complaint. It was just stupid, same kinds of investigations.
 
I'm just about at assassination #3, and I'm going through and completing everything except for the flags and templars (unless I run into them), and I don't really get bored with this unless I play like 3+ hours at a time. As long as I limit play session to an hour or two, I find it a lot of fun. I'd say I'd put it around a 9.0 as well, probably below for the moment, but depending on how good the ending/rest of game is it may move around.
 
Having only putzed around for the first 2 hours or so, my initial impressions are mostly positive. Graphics are solid, gameplay isn't too bad (although I'm not that fond of the control setup so far), and most importantly,
I like this Animus concept!

I'll just take my time over the next week or so, gradually working through the game, and see what I actually think.
 
Ugh, I've been walking around Jerusalem forever and can't find any investigations to do, so I went to Acre and can't find any there. I miss the markers on the map :cry:
 
[quote name='whoknows']Ugh, I've been walking around Jerusalem forever and can't find any investigations to do, so I went to Acre and can't find any there. I miss the markers on the map :cry:[/QUOTE]

Hopefully some DLC comes along, with more assassinations and content.
 
A few more observations:

-Why do you hear so many people speaking french, german, and arabic if
the animus is suppose to translate it for you?

-Why do they let you turn off all the useful hud stuff but you can't turn off the damn giant helper graphics that pop on randomly all the time?

-I hate the save system. I can't load a previous save to try another way to assassinate. I can't save when I want. I have to wait for a certain even to autosave for me, which usually means I have to watch a bunch of dialog again after reloading a session.
 
Beat the game earlier this evening, enjoyed every minute of it.
I love how deep it's gotten, can't wait for the sequel.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']A few more observations:

-Why do you hear so many people speaking french, german, and arabic if
the animus is suppose to translate it for you?
[/quote]

Perhaps you're only supposed to understand the same languages as Altair?
 
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