Battlefield 3- Premium announced; 4 new expansions

surprised theres no mention of start dates for moh early beta and public beta yet....its a month away from September basically
 
I'm curious to see how they are going to translate all the polish over to the consoles, I'm sure there's going to be quite a bit of dumbing down.
 
[quote name='hustletron']I'm curious to see how they are going to translate all the polish over to the consoles, I'm sure there's going to be quite a bit of dumbing down.[/QUOTE]

i dont mind the dumbing down. well i do somewhat, but i just hope we get to at least experience massive scale battles in small areas.

i hope that makes sense, because from what ive bene reading, theyre going to scale down the maps. smaller maps would contain people in one area, so the maps wont feel empty.

or if not, make reduce the amount of seconds it takes to respawn. you die, 2-3 seconds later, youre back and start fighting again. itll feel like a big ass war.

thats all i want.. damn now i miss omaha beach on 1942..
 
Thats how the spawning currently is in the alpha, the timer is 3 seconds.

I'm liking the variety of guns as well. They changed the Assault/Engineer/Medic kits though.

Assault is the new medic, you get an AR, pistol and defib paddles.

Recon is the same.

Support gives out ammo now I believe, LMG and ammo boxes.

Engineer is still about the same, compact AR and blowtorch.

I'll have to look again if I ever go back and try it this weekend, I only messed with the assault and recon so thats why I noticed a difference. It's shaping up to be a really nice game, they just need to obviously take care of the bugs and supposedly the hackers.
 
Alright guys, I've contacted a couple of CAGs through PM if they were interested in my alpha key but one doesn't game on PC, the other hasn't responded.

If anyone wants to seriously participate in the BF3 alpha, PM me for the key.
 
Wow!:bouncy:
Battlefield 3 will have 10 times the hardware unlocks as Bad Company 2, in an obvious ploy to keep players away from friends, family and potential mates for years to come. Battleblog #5, "Years worth of unlocks and rewards in Battlefield 3," unsurprisingly boasts a massive unlock tree for vehicles and oodles of unlocks for weapons, weapons attachments and gadgets. It also lists awards, service stars, kit tailoring options and tactical unlock details.
--Joystiq
 
[quote name='matto1233']Wow!:bouncy:

--Joystiq[/QUOTE]

so, 10x more time invested to unlock weapon attachments?

i'm all for more class awards, etc, but how long did it take to unlock weapon attachments in bc2?
 
thats good to hear! regardless of unlockables i know i will be playing bf3 for at least 1 year straight like i am doing now with bad company 2 lol..

now i just need to see some MP action on the 360. if its intense.. then ill be completely happy
 
[quote name='giantqtipz']thats good to hear! regardless of unlockables i know i will be playing bf3 for at least 1 year straight like i am doing now with bad company 2 lol..

now i just need to see some MP action on the 360. if its intense.. then ill be completely happy[/QUOTE]

how many game modes are there? 1 year straight seems too much.
 
Conquest, Rush and Team Death Match. They may bring capture the flag back but I doubt it.

Weak shit for MOH owners. Our special thing for the beta? Getting in two days early. Talk about half assing it
 
[quote name='slickkill77']Conquest, Rush and Team Death Match. They may bring capture the flag back but I doubt it.

Weak shit for MOH owners. Our special thing for the beta? Getting in two days early. Talk about half assing it[/QUOTE]

Medal Of Honor was a truly half-assed game. ;)
 
I for one still enjoy Medal of Honor, I found it's single-player awesome and still find it's multiplayer fun as hell.:roll:
 
Any ideas on whether the G36 is usable on the Assault/Medic Class? I've only seen it being used with the Engineer :(
 
[quote name='Sistros']I for one still enjoy Medal of Honor, I found it's single-player awesome and still find it's multiplayer fun as hell.:roll:[/QUOTE]

I'm with you on this one. I didn't play Medal of Honor's MP but I thought the SP campaign was awesome. The game itself is by no means a simulation but I thought the campaign and SP gameplay seemed much more authentic and believable than campaigns of other FPS series.

I think a lot of people wrongly assume that Medal of Honor isn't worth playing.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']Conquest, Rush and Team Death Match. They may bring capture the flag back but I doubt it.

Weak shit for MOH owners. Our special thing for the beta? Getting in two days early. Talk about half assing it[/QUOTE]

wow, only 3 modes? i cant imagine anyone playing that for an entire year. might have to rethink purchasing this if i dont have a team full of friends buying it.

hopefully that titan mode comes back in some way. looks really fun and similar to reach's invasion in some ways
 
I hardly ever play rush. I play almost 100% conquest. Battlefield games have never had a ton of modes but I have never gotten sick of Conquest mode despite playing hundreds of hours of conquest on the various Battlefield games. Conquest mode is still awesome on Bad Company 2. It works perfectly fine with 32 players on BC2, you certainly don't have to get 64 players to enjoy Conquest.
 
[quote name='bg88']I hardly ever play rush. I play almost 100% conquest. Battlefield games have never had a ton of modes but I have never gotten sick of Conquest mode despite playing hundreds of hours of conquest on the various Battlefield games. Conquest mode is still awesome on Bad Company 2. It works perfectly fine with 32 players on BC2, you certainly don't have to get 64 players to enjoy Conquest.[/QUOTE]

well yes 32 players is more than enough on BC2, because the maps are all small.

in the previous battlefield games where the scale of the maps are huge, 64 players are definitely necessary.

i cant imagine omaha beach being fun with only 32 players, let alone 24 :cold:
 
[quote name='yahoosale14']wow, only 3 modes? i cant imagine anyone playing that for an entire year. might have to rethink purchasing this if i dont have a team full of friends buying it.

hopefully that titan mode comes back in some way. looks really fun and similar to reach's invasion in some ways[/QUOTE]

That's how Battlefield has always been. In fact early battlefield games only had Conquest and Capture the Flag. Rush wasn't added until Bad Company and Death Match is new for BF 3. So...your point is moot. Conquest IS Battlefield

Once you get over the fact that the AI is terrible in MOH the single player is actually a lot of fun.
 
[quote name='giantqtipz']well yes 32 players is more than enough on BC2, because the maps are all small.

in the previous battlefield games where the scale of the maps are huge, 64 players are definitely necessary.

i cant imagine omaha beach being fun with only 32 players, let alone 24 :cold:[/QUOTE]

Yeah sorry I misinterpreted what you were saying. I thought you were making it sound like Conquest didn't work well in BC2. I don't know what it is about Conquest in Battlefield games but I just never get sick of that mode. I'll probably try a little Rush and Team Deathmatch in BF3 but I know that 99% of my time will probably be Conquest.

I wonder how much of the "10x as many unlocks as BC2" will be ribbons and badges. Either way I'm glad to hear it won't be like BC2 where you could unlock every gun and attachment after 30 hours or so. I didn't have any kind of problem with the amount of guns or attachments in BC2, it just didn't take very long to unlock everything.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']That's how Battlefield has always been. In fact early battlefield games only had Conquest and Capture the Flag. Rush wasn't added until Bad Company and Death Match is new for BF 3. So...your point is moot. Conquest IS Battlefield

Once you get over the fact that the AI is terrible in MOH the single player is actually a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]

my point is moot? be limited to only 3 game modes will get boring quick, especially if they're trying to compete with halo, gears, and cod, all of which have at least x2 as many game modes.
 
[quote name='yahoosale14']my point is moot? be limited to only 3 game modes will get boring quick, especially if they're trying to compete with halo, gears, and cod, all of which have at least x2 as many game modes.[/QUOTE]

I think his point was that the Battlefield games have never depended on lots of modes in order to have long term success. A great example is Battlefield 2 which came out in 2005 I believe. That game remained very popular for years while only having the Conquest mode. I think you are really underestimating the Battlefield fan base. The limited number of modes may get boring for you, but for the giant majority they won't have a problem with having 3 modes.
 
[quote name='bg88']I think his point was that the Battlefield games have never depended on lots of modes in order to have long term success. A great example is Battlefield 2 which came out in 2005 I believe. That game remained very popular for years while only having the Conquest mode. I think you are really underestimating the Battlefield fan base. The limited number of modes may get boring for you, but for the giant majority they won't have a problem with having 3 modes.[/QUOTE]

yeah i understand all the diehard PC fans will enjoy it, but aren't they aiming to capture a large part of the market and overtake COD + other fps.

this beta will make or break it for me.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']Conquest IS Battlefield
[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it any better. Rush is fun too though. I haven't been keeping up with all the new things in BF3, but I hope they increased the squad cap or took it out entirely.
 
haha no need to apologize :) i understood what you meant.

the only reason i mentioned rush as being addictive and not conquest is because i feel like conquest is boring on consoles. conquest is basicalliny taking a map from rush, and making every area accessible. the only problem i have with this is that it can sometimes make servers feel empty.

rush on the other hand, divides maps into small sections. so it contains everyone into the same area, allowing you to get into more firefights and experience more action.

but to each his own :)
 
[quote name='yahoosale14']yeah i understand all the diehard PC fans will enjoy it, but aren't they aiming to capture a large part of the market and overtake COD + other fps.

this beta will make or break it for me.[/QUOTE]


You're definitely in the very small minority.


I believe they stuck with the 4 man squads. I only got to play a couple days before the Alpha ended and I recall only 4 people per squad still.
 
Conquest is pretty much all I have ever played on BF. The modes argument is similar to the maps argument to me, I just don't get it. Maybe console players have been groomed differently than PC players IDK. I always here so many people say "man I wish we had more maps" or "we need a map pack right now!" and I always just laugh. Why is PC gaming so different on this front? I bet I have played at least 200 hrs alone on Wake Island between 1942, 1943, and every other game it's ever been in. On Counter-Strike the maps dust and dust2 are my favorites, people have literally played THOUSANDS of hours on those two maps. If a map is truly great then there is no reason to ever stop playing on it, every time you play there you should enjoy it. Same with game modes like conquest, if it is a truly great mode then you should be able to play it forever and never get tired of it. Of course this is all IMO but I just find this common complaint (not enough modes/maps) interesting.
 
[quote name='hustletron']You're definitely in the very small minority.


I believe they stuck with the 4 man squads. I only got to play a couple days before the Alpha ended and I recall only 4 people per squad still.[/QUOTE]

4 squads of 4, total maximum of 32, correct?

i'd need at least two squads of friends to have fun/make sure we dont get weighed down by others.
 
My goodness, "10 times the hardware unlocks spread over weapons, weapons attachments, gadgets, and a huge unlock tree for vehicles alone" :shock: Nice :D The ribbons and medals look good but I hope they don't follow the MoH MP unlock tree, I didn't like it IMO. Bad Company 2 had all of this, whereas MoH had only this. The online experience is much more exciting to me than the ones I've played (Reach, MW2, Black Ops, and Crysis 2). As for the MoH campaign, I really enjoyed it, the only one I was able to sit and play through non-stop :twoguns:

@yahoosale
Each of us have an opinion on multiplayer games but I have to disagree with you on "be limited to only 3 game modes will get boring quick". Even after a year since I first jumped online, I'm not tired or bored of it. I checked my stats and I've logged more than 300 hrs over the past year :shock:


I'm with bg88, 99% of my online playing time is Conquest. Once you learn the maps and tactics used against you from opposing players, you start to use them against others and really have fun with your squad :D
 
[quote name='htown01']My goodness, "10 times the hardware unlocks spread over weapons, weapons attachments, gadgets, and a huge unlock tree for vehicles alone" :shock: Nice :D The ribbons and medals look good but I hope they don't follow the MoH MP unlock tree, I didn't like it IMO. Bad Company 2 had all of this, whereas MoH had only this. The online experience is much more exciting to me than the ones I've played (Reach, MW2, Black Ops, and Crysis 2). As for the MoH campaign, I really enjoyed it, the only one I was able to sit and play through non-stop :twoguns:

@yahoosale
Each of us have an opinion on multiplayer games but I have to disagree with you on "be limited to only 3 game modes will get boring quick". Even after a year since I first jumped online, I'm not tired or bored of it. I checked my stats and I've logged more than 300 hrs over the past year :shock:


I'm with bg88, 99% of my online playing time is Conquest. Once you learn the maps and tactics used against you from opposing players, you start to use them against others and really have fun with your squad :D[/QUOTE]

Like you said Conquest has always been so fun for me because of learning the maps and finding different places to flank the enemy. One reason why Rush has never done much for me is that in my experiences it always just ends up in a giant bottleneck. I really prefer the smaller engagements at different points on the map as opposed to a giant bottleneck. Obviously this is all personal preference. Despite playing hundreds of hours of Conquest it never gets boring for me because every round of Conquest is different from other rounds. Conquest really opens the maps up and is infinitely fun if you can work together in a squad.

It reminds me of playing Battlefield 2 with my brother and a friend on Operation Clean Sweep. When we were MEC we would get in a boat and work our way along the very edge of the map behind the US main base where their Blackhawks would spawn. I think their artillery guns were also located back there. We would use the combination of Spec. Ops, a Medic, and a Support player and keep planting C4 on the Blackhawks. We would then wait for the Blackhawks to fill up and start flying away before blowing them up. So much fun:whee:
 
[quote name='moojuice']They need to ditch the linearity of the recent conquest maps/modes and make it more sandbox than tug of war.[/QUOTE]

Yep Bad Company conquest was a joke. I remember when they announced that Bad Company didn't even have Conquest. That was a DUMB decision. Then, when they announced it as free DLC all BF fans gave a collective sigh. Well until we played it and it was a joke. As far as maps go, if they are good I don't need 1k of them. Anyone that played BF 2 MC on the consoles can tell you that 50% of the games were played on Backstab. 40% were played on Bridge Too Far. 5% were Full Frontal and another map that I can't remember. The other 5% were the other maps. The map voting feature was brilliant at the time but also flawed because it gave you free choice of maps but people always picked the same maps. Backstab was absolutely perfect other than the glitches. Damn you wall c4!
 
[quote name='slickkill77']Yep Bad Company conquest was a joke. I remember when they announced that Bad Company didn't even have Conquest. That was a DUMB decision. Then, when they announced it as free DLC all BF fans gave a collective sigh. Well until we played it and it was a joke. As far as maps go, if they are good I don't need 1k of them. Anyone that played BF 2 MC on the consoles can tell you that 50% of the games were played on Backstab. 40% were played on Bridge Too Far. 5% were Full Frontal and another map that I can't remember. The other 5% were the other maps. The map voting feature was brilliant at the time but also flawed because it gave you free choice of maps but people always picked the same maps. Backstab was absolutely perfect other than the glitches. Damn you wall c4![/QUOTE]

why was it a joke? how did it differ?
 
honestly, aside from zombie mode and racing in Halo, have there been MP types other than capture the flag, capture the territory or objective destruction?
I mean come on, there's only so much that can be done with FPS MP...
 
[quote name='nasum']honestly, aside from zombie mode and racing in Halo, have there been MP types other than capture the flag, capture the territory or objective destruction?
I mean come on, there's only so much that can be done with FPS MP...[/QUOTE]

objective destruction is very broads, both in halo and cod.

halo= assault, neutral assault, invasion, one flag

cod= search, demolition, sabotage

then theres snipers,swat for halo and doubles(team tac for cod)
 
I busted out some BCBF2 looking towards BF3 and kinda wished they would make the squads larger than 4. Played quite a few games this weekend and no one was really using their mike. Of the few times they did, it really made the game more enjoyable. My friends only really play COD games so I play with them so playing BF solo suks with no back up.
 
[quote name='giantqtipz']I REALLY HOPE WE GET TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CONSOLE MP.[/QUOTE]

24 player combat with a small handful of vehicles on a map one third the size of the PC version. Oh and it's all at 30fps. :applause:
 
[quote name='giantqtipz']fucking goddamnit that was so sexy!

I REALLY HOPE WE GET TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN CONSOLE MP.

CROSSING MY FINGERS.[/QUOTE]

That gameplay made my heart pump harder :D

Unfortunately, I don't think Battlefield multiplayer on console will be like PC multiplayer, maybe in the next-gen console.

But I'll take what they are giving us.
 
[quote name='dotCody']24 player combat with a small handful of vehicles on a map one third the size of the PC version. Oh and it's all at 30fps. :applause:[/QUOTE]


Yes because that was all so terrible on BF 2 MC, Bad Company and Bad Company 2...go troll somewhere else


[quote name='moojuice']Wow, the robot crash was a lot funnier than it should have been.[/QUOTE]

The sad thing is the robot crash caught my friend and I's attention more than anything else during our first viewing. Its still funny. I can't wait to get my hands on the bomb robot.
 
[quote name='slickkill77']Yes because that was all so terrible on BF 2 MC, Bad Company and Bad Company 2...go troll somewhere else[/QUOTE]

Aww, somebody's mad because they can't handle the truth.
 
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