Beyond Good & Evil 2 in pre-production!

[quote name='Nephlabobo']I just hope that this doesn't become the next Smash Bros. Brawl. Overhyped and insanely blogged about in every minute detail until it's released.[/quote]

Given that it's been kept secret for an entire year, I'm sure this will happen.

Regardless, it's a group of guys working on it. Ubisoft hasn't greenlighted it, they're working on it just in case, I guess.
 
Hope it's longer and has more variety. I liked the first one, but the lack of dungeons, items, attack options etc. left me underwhelmed. Just felt like Zelda-lite to me.
 
I hope the vehicle control, combat, stealth missions, and camera are all done better than in the original.

More people have raved about how stellar than original game is than have actually purchased the game. I remember buying it for $10 at Circuit City shortly after it's release.
 
I finally played BG&E a few months ago and while it was decent fun, I don't understand all the gushing praise the game gets. I'll probably pass on the sequel if it does come out.
 
[quote name='Nephlabobo']
I just hope that this doesn't become the next Smash Bros. Brawl. Overhyped and insanely blogged about in every minute detail until it's released.
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Wow. One official blog run by the creator, which was already done with Melee.

You need to get a new dead argument to flog.
 
BG+E2 gets announced and all you guys can talk about is fanservice bros. Bow your heads in shame!
 
Yeah, I don't get the smash hate either. Not a big fan of the series myself, but I didn't expect much to change with the new installment.

What fighting game series has ever had giant changes? There's not much room for innovation. Just more characters and updated graphics are usual all we get, and the latter was limited by the Wii not having much more horsepower than the GC.

I guess the one valid complaint is the gimped online play. People may have reasonably expected that to work at least as well as Mario Karts.
 
I'm still about 2 hours into the first Beyond Good and Evil. I'll have to try to finish it before this comes out. Hopefully (for the publisher) this wouldn't drop to $20 2 weeks after release like the original.
 
[quote name='Strell']Wow. One official blog run by the creator, which was already done with Melee.

You need to get a new dead argument to flog.[/quote]

?

What argument?

I'm not hating on Smash, I just thought the instant blog stories on any and every minutiae of the game were a little much.

I think most people over-hype BG&E as the greatest game ever and hope we don't see endless hyping of it before (and if) it's released, because it's only going to lead to disappointment.
 
[quote name='Nephlabobo']
I think most people over-hype BG&E as the greatest game ever and hope we don't see endless hyping of it before (and if) it's released, because it's only going to lead to disappointment.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Hype for the first one probably limited my enjoyment of the game since I played it a year or so after it came out after reading a ton of hype on forums etc.

I was expecting a Zelda-killer and I got a game that couldn't hold Link's jock strap. It was decent, but had way too few dungeons and only having the staff and the camera disc shooter is pretty limited compared to all the weapons and items you have at your disposal in Zelda and other action-rpgs.

That made the combat very dull and repetitive and really limited puzzles. Basically a Zelda for Dummies type game IMO.

Hopefully the second one adds in a host of items, more dungeons, more puzzles etc. Otherwise I'll pass as I don't bother with B list games these days. AAA or bust.
 
[quote name='Nephlabobo']
I'm not hating on Smash, I just thought the instant blog stories on any and every minutiae of the game were a little much.
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There was one official blog. One. Everything else after the fact is up to journalists. You made it sound like someone was getting paid every other hour to put up a story about some little detail, and that wasn't the case.

There's a "why didn't you just ignore those guilty of this" angle too, but I'm sure you've already thought about that in huge detail, right?
 
[quote name='whiptcracker']I hope the vehicle control, combat, stealth missions, and camera are all done better than in the original.
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I agree. I thought BG&E was a decent game, but not as crazy awesome as some people seem to think it is. I never felt strongly one way or the other about the game getting a sequel.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']okay I need to go and play part one..... I have it, never opened it.[/quote]

You truly are a terrible person! You are missing out on a really good game. Not great, not the best. But it is a really good game. Quit denying yourself the pleasure that is BG&E.
 
[quote name='Strell']There was one official blog. One. Everything else after the fact is up to journalists. You made it sound like someone was getting paid every other hour to put up a story about some little detail, and that wasn't the case.

There's a "why didn't you just ignore those guilty of this" angle too, but I'm sure you've already thought about that in huge detail, right?[/QUOTE]

And as soon as a post went up on the blog, *every* news blog posted the same story, no matter where you looked. I don't understand why you're getting so defensive about this.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']And this one won't sell worth a shit either.[/QUOTE]

Dude I grabbed the first one for $10 at Circuit City a month after release. Or was that $20? I was like, holy shit.
 
Yeah, I remember picking it up new for $20 at Xmas time the year it was released.

I think this one will sell better only for the fact there's been so much talk generated about this game after the fact.
 
It had a lot of fun and distinct gameplay elements and a somewhat interesting story. It's not godly, but it was a solid game.
 
Loved the first one.

It had a great vibe to it. I remember just playing, not for the main game, but just to drive around in the boat while absorbing in all the atmosphere had to offer. The camera addition was pretty neat too, it was like pokemon snap attached to a meatier game. I just loved the many simple layers of gameplay to be found from racing to combat, all without feeling like it was losing its identity.

I really loved the characters too. They were very stylized cartoons, but you really cared for them and their world at times.

I hope they don't forget why we loved the first, if that's in order I can't wait!
 
[quote name='Nephlabobo']^ Spam!

Ban time?[/quote]

Are you referring to my sig? I've had it since I joined in 2007, I've never gotten any trouble over it.

Did things change or something?

Any way wanna talk more, pm me, I don't want to actually spam by talking about it more....

How bout that Jade? She's easily one of my fav vg characters.
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I just played the first one not to long ago. It was an enjoyable game and I had a nice time playing it. From what I experienced, game seems to be hyped by the fans. It wasn't anything spectacular by any means. One thing though, since its release what's with comparing it to Zelda? I went in expecting something Zelda'ish and came out with anything but. It sure wasn't the the emotion when I was playing it "Hey this is just like Zelda!", Far from it.
 
[quote name='leveskikesko']Are you referring to my sig? I've had it since I joined in 2007, I've never gotten any trouble over it. [/quote]

Sorry for the mix up - it looked like spam to me at the time.

But if no one else has hassled you, then it must be okay - sorry.
 
[quote name='Dark Zero']One thing though, since its release what's with comparing it to Zelda? I went in expecting something Zelda'ish and came out with anything but. It sure wasn't the the emotion when I was playing it "Hey this is just like Zelda!", Far from it.[/QUOTE]

Zelda is the cream of the crop of the action-rpg genre, so I compare all games in the genre to it. And it felt like a B level game to me, which makes it unlikely I'll bother with the sequel as I only play games I feel are A level in my favorite genres as I don't even have time to play all that meet that threshold.

At any rate, I see nothing wrong with comparing games to the best in their genre. I guess you could argue that BG&E isn't in that genre, but I don't really see how.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Zelda is the cream of the crop of the action-rpg genre, so I compare all games in the genre to it. And it felt like a B level game to me, which makes it unlikely I'll bother with the sequel as I only play games I feel are A level in my favorite genres as I don't even have time to play all that meet that threshold.

At any rate, I see nothing wrong with comparing games to the best in their genre. I guess you could argue that BG&E isn't in that genre, but I don't really see how.[/QUOTE]

Sure action/adventure genre I won't argue, I enjoyed the game alot regardless. Just saying alot of people said it was JUST like Zelda (as in like a clone) and I fail to see where. BG&E just seemed to do its own thing, which I'm glad they did. Mario62 is action/adventure and it's not like zelda ;P
 
Oh, it did it's own thing. I didn't knock it for being rip off. I just enjoyed it less than a more fledged out action/adventure game such as Zelda. It didn't have enough variety with just having the staff and the disc shooter. Games like this need a variety of weapons, items, more dungeons, better puzzles etc. for me to put them in the A class of games.
 
I'm not sure when BG&E became the second coming of Christ, but regardless, I welcome a sequel. The first was just a surprisingly fun little game that left me wanting more. Then again, if you went into it with someone having told you it was the greatest game you never played or something crazy like that, it probably didn't live up to the hype. I just hope Ubisoft doesn't try to add a bunch of useless shit to the sequel if it gets made. The formula of the first was fine. Maybe a little less racing, but otherwise the game was solid the way it was.
 
That's definitely a big part of it. I played it after it got hyped to hell on forums. So rather than being pleasantly surprised with a simple, but good action-adventure game, I went in expecting a kick ass Zelda-calibur action-adventure game and was then underwhelmed for the reasons I've mentioned earlier.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Oh, it did it's own thing. I didn't knock it for being rip off. I just enjoyed it less than a more fledged out action/adventure game such as Zelda. It didn't have enough variety with just having the staff and the disc shooter. Games like this need a variety of weapons, items, more dungeons, better puzzles etc. for me to put them in the A class of games.[/QUOTE]

I'll agree to that, it did need a bit, ok ALOT more variety in the items you refered to. I would have welcomed a few more moves or variety in attacks/ways to kill enemies. It just seemed like the same old tactics each and every enemy, or lack there of. Let's see what they do with the sequel.
 
:drool:The trailer looked amazing. Really hyped for this one now. I own the original, but never completed it, but I guess it will be time to change that:D
 
[quote name='KingBroly']In-game engine my ass.[/QUOTE]

Theoretically it could be, but the problem is that the trailer is devoid of the things that you'd actually find in the game - AI routines, physics engine, etc, that all has to be calculated while still maintaining a solid frame rate.

Meaning the final actual game product should look noticeably worse.

But then again, I look at Gears of War 2 and think it can't possibly be running in real time, even though I know that's fully the case.

I did like the trailer. Reminded me of Cowboy Bebop, and some of the FMVs from Starcraft, with a very expansive/space feel, but still something readily accessible like being stuck on the side of the road. So it kind of had a Full Throttle feeling too.

By the time this comes out I'll probably have a PS3 anyway, so no rush on it, Ubi.

@Neph: The problem I had with your Brawl talk was that I came into the thread to discuss the game, not see you whine on your soap box.
 
Well, first off, I'm thrilled for all the people that absolutely love the first one here. I swear, few games get the love that BG&E get's here.

I'm also happy to see that others thought the first was mearly average. I had little interest in it, but got it for under $10 just to see what all the hype was about. Most of the time, I can see why other people love games, even when I don't (I put Metroid Prime into ths category, I liked it, but not as much as others).

BG&E I really struggled with. Nothing was bad about it. It really had some decent characters, decent setting, pretty good story. But, it never resonated with me, and I always struggled to see what others saw in it (not saying those who like it are wrong, if anything, I think I'm wrong for not seeing it).

That being said, when the game gets cheap enough, if it's as loved as the first, i'll probably give it a second go.
 
Trailer looks good! Just please have an easier final boss. The final boss in the last game made me yell out fuck a hundred times in under 30 minutes.
 
I thought the first one was something of a commercial failure. If that is the case, exponentially increasing your risk doesnt seem like the best idea.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I thought the first one was something of a commercial failure. If that is the case, exponentially increasing your risk doesnt seem like the best idea.[/quote]

It appears they're taking note of that with its more realistic art style. It might do ok. If not, people suck.
 
Whether the game does well or not really doesnt have that much to do with the end quality of the game. Its the marketing. Ubisoft can put some major power behind their marketing if they choose to (Red Steel, Assassin's Creed), or they can release it with almost no advertisement (No More Heroes).
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I thought the first one was something of a commercial failure. If that is the case, exponentially increasing your risk doesnt seem like the best idea.[/QUOTE]

Well, it was released during the holiday season when it had a lot of competition and was a new and under hyped franchise. The game bombed, and quickly fell in price, but this allowed many gamers to buy the game and try it out. Many loved it and the word spread that this was a great game. Hopefully this will allow Beyond Good and Evil 2 to do fairly well.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I thought the first one was something of a commercial failure. If that is the case, exponentially increasing your risk doesnt seem like the best idea.[/quote]

Apparently between then and now, Ubisoft learned how to market what they're making.
 
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