Black Teen Shot, Killed By Neighborhood Watch
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It'd be nice if you could address my points first, but...
[quote name='YendelTrex']I understand it just fine thanks. I don't like it and still say it was not common place in the media in the US before this case.[/quote]
You probably understand it better now that I've explained it to you over several posts. You still don't like it solely because you've likely never encountered it before, which is far different from the argument of self-identification.
[quote name='YendelTrex']I understand it just fine thanks. I don't like it and still say it was not common place in the media in the US before this case.[/quote]
You probably understand it better now that I've explained it to you over several posts. You still don't like it solely because you've likely never encountered it before, which is far different from the argument of self-identification.
You aren't and haven't shown that you are. You've given us nothing of substance to show any initimate knowledge on the broader subject. You don't get credit for making several posts saying that you don't like it because you've never heard of it and then posting a couple of links from right-wing sources using an entirely different argument that relies on knowledge that you don't have.
Honestly, I couldn't care less that you don't like the label. I care about the WHY. If you don't have good and/or defensible reasons, then maybe you should rethink your stances on things.
YendelTrex
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I still find it incredulous that if you put up picture of Zimmerman and show his name under it, that you categorize him as being Hispanic. [/QUOTE]
Please quit editing your posts I can't keep up with the edits.
When did I say that?
I find it laughable when I am reading an article about a crime and they have the picture of say the predator and then in the article they feel it necessary to tell me that they are white or black. The picture wasn't enough for them? They have to tell me how I should VIEW the person?
I still find it incredulous that if you put up picture of Zimmerman and show his name under it, that you categorize him as being Hispanic. [/QUOTE]
Please quit editing your posts I can't keep up with the edits.
When did I say that?
I find it laughable when I am reading an article about a crime and they have the picture of say the predator and then in the article they feel it necessary to tell me that they are white or black. The picture wasn't enough for them? They have to tell me how I should VIEW the person?
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']It'd be nice if you could address my points first, but...
You probably understand it better now that I've explained it to you over several posts. You still don't like it solely because you've likely never encountered it before, which is far different from the argument of self-identification.
You aren't and haven't shown that you are. You've given us nothing of substance to show any initimate knowledge on the broader subject. You don't get credit for making several posts saying that you don't like it because you've never heard of it and then posting a couple of links from right-wing sources using an entirely different argument that relies on knowledge that you don't have.
Honestly, I couldn't care less that you don't like the label. I care about the WHY. If you don't have good and/or defensible reasons, then maybe you should rethink your stances on things.[/QUOTE]
It is MY opinion if you don't like my opinion then that is your right. Get over it.
Again how am I not knowledgable on self-identification?
So you think that you have taught me something? That is what you are saying in your post. Thanks to you now I understand it better? Somebody is really full of themselves.
You probably understand it better now that I've explained it to you over several posts. You still don't like it solely because you've likely never encountered it before, which is far different from the argument of self-identification.
You aren't and haven't shown that you are. You've given us nothing of substance to show any initimate knowledge on the broader subject. You don't get credit for making several posts saying that you don't like it because you've never heard of it and then posting a couple of links from right-wing sources using an entirely different argument that relies on knowledge that you don't have.
Honestly, I couldn't care less that you don't like the label. I care about the WHY. If you don't have good and/or defensible reasons, then maybe you should rethink your stances on things.[/QUOTE]
It is MY opinion if you don't like my opinion then that is your right. Get over it.
Again how am I not knowledgable on self-identification?
So you think that you have taught me something? That is what you are saying in your post. Thanks to you now I understand it better? Somebody is really full of themselves.
[quote name='YendelTrex']Please quit editing your posts I can't keep up with the edits.[/QUOTE]
If my edits are hard to keep up with, why would it matter if you only used one sentence out of over a dozen?
Right here:
[quote name='YendelTrex']dohdough
Listen I think we got off on the wrong foot here. Soodemeg was right I think misunderstood what you were initially saying in what I took as a response to my post about the media using the label white-hispanic. I also think you might have misunderstood where I was coming from with my post on that. I simply meant that I thought it was more sensationalism on the media's part to get more viewers and interest. Most people I know are not comfortable with that term or label and viewed it that way also.
If I am wrong then so be it. If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color. I didn't see zimmerman that way and maybe you did not either and that is why you think the initial police report was biased in getting zimmerman a leg up so to speak.
I would be happy to have a civilized discussion with you on other matters such as the one drop rule.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]If my edits are hard to keep up with, why would it matter if you only used one sentence out of over a dozen?
Right here:
[quote name='YendelTrex']dohdough
Listen I think we got off on the wrong foot here. Soodemeg was right I think misunderstood what you were initially saying in what I took as a response to my post about the media using the label white-hispanic. I also think you might have misunderstood where I was coming from with my post on that. I simply meant that I thought it was more sensationalism on the media's part to get more viewers and interest. Most people I know are not comfortable with that term or label and viewed it that way also.
If I am wrong then so be it. If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color. I didn't see zimmerman that way and maybe you did not either and that is why you think the initial police report was biased in getting zimmerman a leg up so to speak.
I would be happy to have a civilized discussion with you on other matters such as the one drop rule.[/QUOTE]
I find it sad that there are so many issues that are able to be discussed in that little paragraph, but that you aren't able to.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']Right here:
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Right here what? Again where did I say hispanic?
You quoted me on saying "If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color."
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Right here what? Again where did I say hispanic?
You quoted me on saying "If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color."
[quote name='YendelTrex']It is MY opinion if you don't like my opinion then that is your right. Get over it.[/quote]
If you don't want to debate your opinions, then you should keep them to yourself.
If you don't want to debate your opinions, then you should keep them to yourself.
You don't use any terminology, describe the history of terms, discuss the evolution of concepts, or show any understanding of the concepts. It's a rhetorical tool to ask someone to prove a negative because you can't, but you've shown no evidence that you do and that's as close as you can get.
Are you saying that you haven't learned anything? LOLZ...that makes it even more hilarious and sad at the same time.
[quote name='YendelTrex']Right here what? Again where did I say hispanic?
You quoted me on saying "If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color."
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So now you're going to start taking yourself out of context and use literalism? Do you intend to hit all the other fallacies as well?:lol:
Here, you say that Zimmerman isn't white, but strongly imply that he's "brown":
Combine that with your other posts and you're saying that there's no pattern? If he's not defined as black, white, and obviously not East Asian, then wtf does "brown" imply? Desi???
You quoted me on saying "If someone asked me to describe someone for the matter of identifying them visually I see no problem with saying white if that is their color."
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So now you're going to start taking yourself out of context and use literalism? Do you intend to hit all the other fallacies as well?:lol:
Here, you say that Zimmerman isn't white, but strongly imply that he's "brown":
[quote name='YendelTrex']I don't get it. Was it about the news making Goerge Zimmerman a white guy or are you trying to tell me it was about making a brown guy brown? However one looks at it saying white-hispanic is stupid.
For the sake of argument lets say the news did it to cover up or implicate white folks or brown folks. Then you are saying that the police report did it to provide cover for a brown guy who looked white to them to make him look MORE white so he wouldn't get in trouble? Is that the same police report that is headed with negligent homicide and the same police department that wanted to charge George Zimmerman? They didn't do a very good covering for the mixed race guy now did they?[/QUOTE]
For the sake of argument lets say the news did it to cover up or implicate white folks or brown folks. Then you are saying that the police report did it to provide cover for a brown guy who looked white to them to make him look MORE white so he wouldn't get in trouble? Is that the same police report that is headed with negligent homicide and the same police department that wanted to charge George Zimmerman? They didn't do a very good covering for the mixed race guy now did they?[/QUOTE]
Combine that with your other posts and you're saying that there's no pattern? If he's not defined as black, white, and obviously not East Asian, then wtf does "brown" imply? Desi???
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']So now you're going to start taking yourself out of context and use literalism? Do you intend to hit all the other fallacies as well?:lol:
Here, you say that Zimmerman isn't white, but strongly imply that he's "brown":
Combine that with your other posts and you're saying that there's no pattern? If he's not defined as black, white, and obviously not East Asian, then wtf does "brown" imply? Desi???[/QUOTE]
and again where did I say hispanic?????????????????????????
isn't brown a color????????????
Brown is a color not ethnicity.
Here, you say that Zimmerman isn't white, but strongly imply that he's "brown":
Combine that with your other posts and you're saying that there's no pattern? If he's not defined as black, white, and obviously not East Asian, then wtf does "brown" imply? Desi???[/QUOTE]
and again where did I say hispanic?????????????????????????
isn't brown a color????????????
Brown is a color not ethnicity.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']
You don't use any terminology, describe the history of terms, discuss the evolution of concepts, or show any understanding of the concepts. It's a rhetorical tool to ask someone to prove a negative because you can't, but you've shown no evidence that you do and that's as close as you can get.[/QUOTE]
When did we have a detailed conversation on the specific topic of "self-identification"?
You don't use any terminology, describe the history of terms, discuss the evolution of concepts, or show any understanding of the concepts. It's a rhetorical tool to ask someone to prove a negative because you can't, but you've shown no evidence that you do and that's as close as you can get.[/QUOTE]
When did we have a detailed conversation on the specific topic of "self-identification"?
[quote name='YendelTrex']and again where did I say hispanic?????????????????????????[/quote]
You don't get a pass for for not posting "Zimmerman is not Hispanic" while arguing "he ain't white and he aint black, so I'll call him brown regardless of what that heavily implies!"
You don't get a pass for for not posting "Zimmerman is not Hispanic" while arguing "he ain't white and he aint black, so I'll call him brown regardless of what that heavily implies!"
NOW you want to use the ethnicity vs race argument? I guess you learned something afterall!
joeboosauce
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And might be edu-macational for the people who don't understand racial profiling... and racism.
[quote name='YendelTrex']When did we have a detailed conversation on the specific topic of "self-identification"?[/QUOTE]
I've been discussing a topic that has a lot of overlap and all you been doing is bitching about the media inventing a new concept called "white-Hispanic."
And there you go trying to get someone to prove a negative again. The onus is on you to prove that you know something and not on me to show what you don't know. If you really knew a lot about it, you wouldn't be arguing that the one drop rule only applies to black people.
I've been discussing a topic that has a lot of overlap and all you been doing is bitching about the media inventing a new concept called "white-Hispanic."
And there you go trying to get someone to prove a negative again. The onus is on you to prove that you know something and not on me to show what you don't know. If you really knew a lot about it, you wouldn't be arguing that the one drop rule only applies to black people.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']You don't get a pass for for not posting "Zimmerman is not Hispanic" while arguing "he ain't white and he aint black, so I'll call him brown regardless of what that heavily implies!"
NOW you want to use the ethnicity vs race argument? I guess you learned something afterall![/QUOTE]
and again where did I say hispanic??? Brown is a color. If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown.
NOW you want to use the ethnicity vs race argument? I guess you learned something afterall![/QUOTE]
and again where did I say hispanic??? Brown is a color. If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']I've been discussing a topic that has a lot of overlap and all you been doing is bitching about the media inventing a new concept called "white-Hispanic."
And there you go trying to get someone to prove a negative again. The onus is on you to prove that you know something and not on me to show what you don't know. If you really knew a lot about it, you wouldn't be arguing that the one drop rule only applies to black people.[/QUOTE]
and again when did we have a conversation on on the topic of self-identification? We didn't.
And there you go trying to get someone to prove a negative again. The onus is on you to prove that you know something and not on me to show what you don't know. If you really knew a lot about it, you wouldn't be arguing that the one drop rule only applies to black people.[/QUOTE]
and again when did we have a conversation on on the topic of self-identification? We didn't.
[quote name='YendelTrex']and again where did I say hispanic??? Brown is a color. If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown.[/QUOTE]
Two can play that game. Where did I define brown as meaning Hispanic?
[quote name='YendelTrex']and again when did we have a conversation on on the topic of self-identification? We didn't.[/QUOTE]
*Sigh* And you aren't clarifying that you do have a clear understanding that you do, so what's your point? By not saying that you're well versed in it's theory, are you implying that you are? THEN
ING PROVE IT.
edit: Look, if you want to argue about the social construction of race and the racialization of ethnicities, start a new thread. I'm done arguing with you in this thread if you're going to persist in not having an honest debate.
Two can play that game. Where did I define brown as meaning Hispanic?
[quote name='YendelTrex']and again when did we have a conversation on on the topic of self-identification? We didn't.[/QUOTE]
*Sigh* And you aren't clarifying that you do have a clear understanding that you do, so what's your point? By not saying that you're well versed in it's theory, are you implying that you are? THEN
ING PROVE IT.edit: Look, if you want to argue about the social construction of race and the racialization of ethnicities, start a new thread. I'm done arguing with you in this thread if you're going to persist in not having an honest debate.
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YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']Two can play that game. Where did I define brown as meaning Hispanic?
*Sigh* And you aren't clarifying that you do have a clear understanding that you do, so what's your point? By not saying that you're well versed in it's theory, are you implying that you are? THENING PROVE IT.[/QUOTE]
First you said that I labeled zimmerman as white-hispanic when I did not then you said I labeled him as hispanic I did not then you said I am not knowledgable on self-identification even though WE did not discuss it.
To answer your first question you said I labeled him as hispanic when I called you on it you basically said well it's because I said brown in another sentence or two.
I did not say you labeled him hispanic now did I?
This is what I said.."If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown."
All of your defending a lie about me labeling zimmerman hispanic was about me saying brown. Your defense not mine.
edit: To address the last part of your post....Prove you know something about oil futures. Since I using your logic can say you are not knowledgable on them even though we did not discuss them and I don't know what your knowledge is on the topic.
*Sigh* And you aren't clarifying that you do have a clear understanding that you do, so what's your point? By not saying that you're well versed in it's theory, are you implying that you are? THEN
ING PROVE IT.[/QUOTE]First you said that I labeled zimmerman as white-hispanic when I did not then you said I labeled him as hispanic I did not then you said I am not knowledgable on self-identification even though WE did not discuss it.
To answer your first question you said I labeled him as hispanic when I called you on it you basically said well it's because I said brown in another sentence or two.
I did not say you labeled him hispanic now did I?
This is what I said.."If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown."
All of your defending a lie about me labeling zimmerman hispanic was about me saying brown. Your defense not mine.
edit: To address the last part of your post....Prove you know something about oil futures. Since I using your logic can say you are not knowledgable on them even though we did not discuss them and I don't know what your knowledge is on the topic.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']
edit: Look, if you want to argue about the social construction of race and the racialization of ethnicities, start a new thread. I'm done arguing with you in this thread if you're going to persist in not having an honest debate.[/QUOTE]
Just saw your edit.
You are telling me about honest debate when you are the one saying I said things and assigned labels that I did not? If you can't handle me defending myself against false allegations made by you then you might want to stop making false allegations.
Here is an idea YOU should start a new thread or two. One called the false allegation thread and the other Professor Dohdough's Race thread.
You are the one making this thread about those things but can't handle it when someone else chimes in or defends themselves.
edit: Look, if you want to argue about the social construction of race and the racialization of ethnicities, start a new thread. I'm done arguing with you in this thread if you're going to persist in not having an honest debate.[/QUOTE]
Just saw your edit.
You are telling me about honest debate when you are the one saying I said things and assigned labels that I did not? If you can't handle me defending myself against false allegations made by you then you might want to stop making false allegations.
Here is an idea YOU should start a new thread or two. One called the false allegation thread and the other Professor Dohdough's Race thread.
You are the one making this thread about those things but can't handle it when someone else chimes in or defends themselves.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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[quote name='dohdough']Manslaughter isn't a life sentence and the public arena isn't a court of law. Show me where I said or implied anywhere that he should be locked up for life.[/quote]
But once again, since none of us were there, who's to say what really happened. If there was a struggle for Zimmermans' gun and it went off, then NO charges should be held against him imo. Again we don't know 100% of what went down. As for the public arena thing, I still say that he will NEVER get a fair trial anywhere due to all of the coverage of this case prior to charges finally being filed.
But once again, since none of us were there, who's to say what really happened. If there was a struggle for Zimmermans' gun and it went off, then NO charges should be held against him imo. Again we don't know 100% of what went down. As for the public arena thing, I still say that he will NEVER get a fair trial anywhere due to all of the coverage of this case prior to charges finally being filed.
No mature arguments? If one is mature, then they don't have arguments in the first place. They agree that others are entitled to their own opinion and if they disagree they do so respectfully. So by that admission, I do agree that some discussions I've had on here haven't exactly been all that mature. Then again, I believe the average user on here save for some segments of CAG is 15-16, so that may factor into it a bit.
[quote name='YendelTrex']First you said that I labeled zimmerman as white-hispanic when I did not then you said I labeled him as hispanic I did not then you said I am not knowledgable on self-identification even though WE did not discuss it.
To answer your first question you said I labeled him as hispanic when I called you on it you basically said well it's because I said brown in another sentence or two.
I did not say you labeled him hispanic now did I?
This is what I said.."If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown."
All of your defending a lie about me labeling zimmerman hispanic was about me saying brown. Your defense not mine.
edit: To address the last part of your post....Prove you know something about oil futures. Since I using your logic can say you are not knowledgable on them even though we did not discuss them and I don't know what your knowledge is on the topic.[/QUOTE]
You only have 18 posts over the last 4 pages in this thread and I probably have just as many. It would be a simple thing to prove all your assertions as correct by choosing all my quotes without splicing them up. Now go show your work and prove that you're right. Show everyone how dishonest I am. I'll even help you by saying that you can make your posts look shorter by putting my quotes in spoiler tags.
As for discussing oil futures, I don't pretend to know about or understand things that I don't know about or understand. If someone is discussing something I don't know about, I ask questions to deepen my understanding and not assert that my ass ignorant superficial understanding trumps someone that's been studying the subject for years.
[quote name='YendelTrex']Just saw your edit.
You are telling me about honest debate when you are the one saying I said things and assigned labels that I did not? If you can't handle me defending myself against false allegations made by you then you might want to stop making false allegations.
Here is an idea YOU should start a new thread or two. One called the false allegation thread and the other Professor Dohdough's Race thread.
You are the one making this thread about those things but can't handle it when someone else chimes in or defends themselves.[/QUOTE]
Like I said. Prove it. You only have to parse through 4 pages and put some posts in spoiler tags showing a pattern of my falsehoods and preface the quotes with your assertions of me making false allegations. Don't forget to leave the quotes intact.
To answer your first question you said I labeled him as hispanic when I called you on it you basically said well it's because I said brown in another sentence or two.
I did not say you labeled him hispanic now did I?
This is what I said.."If you think that brown means hispanic then maybe you are not the professor you think you are. Or maybe you should question yourself in why you would think that and go there. Brown is brown."
All of your defending a lie about me labeling zimmerman hispanic was about me saying brown. Your defense not mine.
edit: To address the last part of your post....Prove you know something about oil futures. Since I using your logic can say you are not knowledgable on them even though we did not discuss them and I don't know what your knowledge is on the topic.[/QUOTE]
You only have 18 posts over the last 4 pages in this thread and I probably have just as many. It would be a simple thing to prove all your assertions as correct by choosing all my quotes without splicing them up. Now go show your work and prove that you're right. Show everyone how dishonest I am. I'll even help you by saying that you can make your posts look shorter by putting my quotes in spoiler tags.
As for discussing oil futures, I don't pretend to know about or understand things that I don't know about or understand. If someone is discussing something I don't know about, I ask questions to deepen my understanding and not assert that my ass ignorant superficial understanding trumps someone that's been studying the subject for years.
[quote name='YendelTrex']Just saw your edit.
You are telling me about honest debate when you are the one saying I said things and assigned labels that I did not? If you can't handle me defending myself against false allegations made by you then you might want to stop making false allegations.
Here is an idea YOU should start a new thread or two. One called the false allegation thread and the other Professor Dohdough's Race thread.
You are the one making this thread about those things but can't handle it when someone else chimes in or defends themselves.[/QUOTE]
Like I said. Prove it. You only have to parse through 4 pages and put some posts in spoiler tags showing a pattern of my falsehoods and preface the quotes with your assertions of me making false allegations. Don't forget to leave the quotes intact.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']But once again, since none of us were there, who's to say what really happened. If there was a struggle for Zimmermans' gun and it went off, then NO charges should be held against him imo. Again we don't know 100% of what went down. As for the public arena thing, I still say that he will NEVER get a fair trial anywhere due to all of the coverage of this case prior to charges finally being filed.[/quote]
You already stated that a grown man following you in a car would be creepy, so by following him, Zimmerman has already commited an act that would lead to later possible aggression. Throwing the first punch is irrelevant when Zimmerman initiated the encounter by following Martin. Since Zimmerman was the initiator, that would put Martin in the position to claim self-defense. There's causality.
You're also assuming he was ever going to get a fair trial to begin with. I honestly don't think anyone really thinks this will end in a verdict that will lead to anything but Zimmerman walking.
You already stated that a grown man following you in a car would be creepy, so by following him, Zimmerman has already commited an act that would lead to later possible aggression. Throwing the first punch is irrelevant when Zimmerman initiated the encounter by following Martin. Since Zimmerman was the initiator, that would put Martin in the position to claim self-defense. There's causality.
You're also assuming he was ever going to get a fair trial to begin with. I honestly don't think anyone really thinks this will end in a verdict that will lead to anything but Zimmerman walking.
You don't seem to understand what an "argument" means in relation to a debate. As for being mature, I have no problem getting in the mud with the troglodytes that shit and run on vs. When we're talking about vs., I'm willing to bet that the more prolific posters are close to and around 30.
I am not sure if it was Cheapest but someone in this thread more or less stated he would consider someone he didn't know in his neighborhood suspicious.
Which is saying that he can recognize the dimly lit silhouette of every single person in his town. Disregarding the fact that I could have people (say my cousins kids) over with out expecting a local busy body to stalk them.
Which is saying that he can recognize the dimly lit silhouette of every single person in his town. Disregarding the fact that I could have people (say my cousins kids) over with out expecting a local busy body to stalk them.
IAmTheCheapestGamer
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[quote name='dohdough']You already stated that a grown man following you in a car would be creepy, so by following him, Zimmerman has already commited an act that would lead to later possible aggression. Throwing the first punch is irrelevant when Zimmerman initiated the encounter by following Martin. Since Zimmerman was the initiator, that would put Martin in the position to claim self-defense. There's causality.
You're also assuming he was ever going to get a fair trial to begin with. I honestly don't think anyone really thinks this will end in a verdict that will lead to anything but Zimmerman walking.[/quote]
But yet again, Zimmermans' neighbors had been the victims of break-ins according to some of the reports going around at the time this case started being reported in the news. So to me it was justifiable for him to follow someone who wasn't from that neighborhood, especially if the average response time for police in that same area was very lax.
You're also assuming he was ever going to get a fair trial to begin with. I honestly don't think anyone really thinks this will end in a verdict that will lead to anything but Zimmerman walking.[/quote]
But yet again, Zimmermans' neighbors had been the victims of break-ins according to some of the reports going around at the time this case started being reported in the news. So to me it was justifiable for him to follow someone who wasn't from that neighborhood, especially if the average response time for police in that same area was very lax.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']But yet again, Zimmermans' neighbors had been the victims of break-ins according to some of the reports going around at the time this case started being reported in the news. So to me it was justifiable for him to follow someone who wasn't from that neighborhood, especially if the average response time for police in that same area was very lax.[/QUOTE]
Having your home broken into is different from a robbery in progress. Not to mention that insurance would cover any material losses. Following someone can be interpreted as threatening behavior especially if it leads to violence. Obviously since you believe in racial profiling being justifiable, I can see how following someone isn't problematic for you.
Having your home broken into is different from a robbery in progress. Not to mention that insurance would cover any material losses. Following someone can be interpreted as threatening behavior especially if it leads to violence. Obviously since you believe in racial profiling being justifiable, I can see how following someone isn't problematic for you.
[quote name='Msut77']I am not sure if it was Cheapest but someone in this thread more or less stated he would consider someone he didn't know in his neighborhood suspicious.
Which is saying that he can recognize the dimly lit silhouette of every single person in his town. Disregarding the fact that I could have people (say my cousins kids) over with out expecting a local busy body to stalk them.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it was him an Spokker.
Which is saying that he can recognize the dimly lit silhouette of every single person in his town. Disregarding the fact that I could have people (say my cousins kids) over with out expecting a local busy body to stalk them.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it was him an Spokker.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']But yet again, Zimmermans' neighbors had been the victims of break-ins according to some of the reports going around at the time this case started being reported in the news. So to me it was justifiable for him to follow someone who wasn't from that neighborhood, especially if the average response time for police in that same area was very lax.[/QUOTE]
Again, you can identify every single person in your neighborhood by their dimly lit silhouette?
Also, do you expect every neighbor to have their visitors submit you a signed permission slip with a photo?
Again, you can identify every single person in your neighborhood by their dimly lit silhouette?
Also, do you expect every neighbor to have their visitors submit you a signed permission slip with a photo?
YendelTrex
Banned
Halle Berry Cites 'One-Drop' Rule in Battle Over Whether Her Daughter Is Black or White
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/halle-...er-black-white/story?id=12869789#.T44IVtnSaN8
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/halle-...er-black-white/story?id=12869789#.T44IVtnSaN8
[quote name='dohdough']When you argue that labeling him as white-Hispanic is dumb...[/quote]
Quote, please?
I didn't say it was dumb. I said it goes against your entire idea that the entrenched white-controlled media is pushing a pro-white agenda.
If they're trying to distance the idea of white folks being responsible for this, then there's no reason to use the term "white-Hispanic". Just say "Hispanic". It'd probably be considered accurate by the majority of the population (well, the majority of the population won't care one way or another) and does a better job of accomplishing their agenda.
Quote, please?
I didn't say it was dumb. I said it goes against your entire idea that the entrenched white-controlled media is pushing a pro-white agenda.
If they're trying to distance the idea of white folks being responsible for this, then there's no reason to use the term "white-Hispanic". Just say "Hispanic". It'd probably be considered accurate by the majority of the population (well, the majority of the population won't care one way or another) and does a better job of accomplishing their agenda.
YendelTrex
Banned
[quote name='dohdough']
As for discussing oil futures, I don't pretend to know about or understand things that I don't know about or understand. If someone is discussing something I don't know about, I ask questions to deepen my understanding and not assert that my ass ignorant superficial understanding trumps someone that's been studying the subject for years.[/QUOTE]
You just don't get it do you?
You said that I am not knowledgable on SELF-IDENTIFICATION even though I never discussed it at all. You made an ass out of yourself in assuming my knowledge on a subject even though I never talked about that topic at all.
I could be an ass like you and say you are not knowledgable about airplanes even though you have not discussed airplanes and how they are made and of what components.
I have a better idea instead of starting the two threads I said you should why don't you just merge them into one as with you they go hand in hand.
If your studying for years involved the one drop rule then you would know that you used it incorrectly and it did not apply. You might want to go study those RACE books again.
As for discussing oil futures, I don't pretend to know about or understand things that I don't know about or understand. If someone is discussing something I don't know about, I ask questions to deepen my understanding and not assert that my ass ignorant superficial understanding trumps someone that's been studying the subject for years.[/QUOTE]
You just don't get it do you?
You said that I am not knowledgable on SELF-IDENTIFICATION even though I never discussed it at all. You made an ass out of yourself in assuming my knowledge on a subject even though I never talked about that topic at all.
I could be an ass like you and say you are not knowledgable about airplanes even though you have not discussed airplanes and how they are made and of what components.
I have a better idea instead of starting the two threads I said you should why don't you just merge them into one as with you they go hand in hand.
If your studying for years involved the one drop rule then you would know that you used it incorrectly and it did not apply. You might want to go study those RACE books again.
[quote name='UncleBob']Quote, please?[/QUOTE]
You want me to find a quote? You? Someone that couldn't ass themself into posting proof on your own? Someone that called it a dog and pony show when I told you to? How about you find your own goddamn quotes. Here's a hint: there are two of them from the last 24 hours and 40 minutes.
, it's not like news outlets were throwing him solely into the Hispanic category right after his father sent that letter right?
edit: Whoops...looks like some media outlets DID describe Zimmerman as soley Hispanic.
You want me to find a quote? You? Someone that couldn't ass themself into posting proof on your own? Someone that called it a dog and pony show when I told you to? How about you find your own goddamn quotes. Here's a hint: there are two of them from the last 24 hours and 40 minutes.
No, you just argued the obsurdity of adding white- to the -Hispanic when Hispanic, on it's own, would suffice and related it to how we call Obama black, and not white-African.
Well
, it's not like news outlets were throwing him solely into the Hispanic category right after his father sent that letter right?[quote name='dohdough']I'm pretty sure that you don't understand what you just quoted.
From what I've been reading, the Feds have no jurisdiction over the case in regards to charging and arresting Zimmerman for anything regarding the actual killing unless it was found that Martin's civil rights were violated. They certainly won't be able to do anything regarding the cops that are stonewalling the case.
The most interesting thing about the CNN article is that they're using the 1 drop rule now in regards to Zimmerman being multiracial.[/QUOTE]
Too bad CNN edited out the part where they described him as being a Hispanic male. Luckily, there is somewhat of a record that they changed it and that they weren't the only news outlet that said he was Hispanic and nothing else.
From what I've been reading, the Feds have no jurisdiction over the case in regards to charging and arresting Zimmerman for anything regarding the actual killing unless it was found that Martin's civil rights were violated. They certainly won't be able to do anything regarding the cops that are stonewalling the case.
The most interesting thing about the CNN article is that they're using the 1 drop rule now in regards to Zimmerman being multiracial.[/QUOTE]
Too bad CNN edited out the part where they described him as being a Hispanic male. Luckily, there is somewhat of a record that they changed it and that they weren't the only news outlet that said he was Hispanic and nothing else.
edit: Whoops...looks like some media outlets DID describe Zimmerman as soley Hispanic.
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[quote name='YendelTrex']You just don't get it do you?
You said that I am not knowledgable on SELF-IDENTIFICATION even though I never discussed it at all. You made an ass out of yourself in assuming my knowledge on a subject even though I never talked about that topic at all.[/QUOTE]
Did you read those links from Fox and pjm? Do they NOT address self-identification? Is that NOT related to the social construction of race and how we categorize people? Of course you didn't discuss it; you only posted links to stand in for your discussion and as your argument because you can't justify your unfounded opinion beyond you just not liking the term, white-Hispanic.
edit: And you're back to the one drop rule again as if I didn't already explain it several times that the Spanish used it when they colonized the American continent and that it doesn't matter what they called it especially if it was literally and functionally the same exacting thing with a different ing name.
edit2: Shit, the US even used it against Native Americans.
You said that I am not knowledgable on SELF-IDENTIFICATION even though I never discussed it at all. You made an ass out of yourself in assuming my knowledge on a subject even though I never talked about that topic at all.[/QUOTE]
Did you read those links from Fox and pjm? Do they NOT address self-identification? Is that NOT related to the social construction of race and how we categorize people? Of course you didn't discuss it; you only posted links to stand in for your discussion and as your argument because you can't justify your unfounded opinion beyond you just not liking the term, white-Hispanic.
It'd be appropriate if we were talking about aerodynamics, engineering, aviation, TSA policies, and a host of other subjects related to planes and flying. To put it in the context of our "conversation," you're talking about folding paper airplanes your hate for folding them because you can't make them fly for long enough and I'm talking goddamn aerodynamics and lift.
Like I said. PROVE IT. I have over 25 posts for you to highlight where you said I lied.
Nice of you to capitalize race. Are discussions of race supposed be be scary or something? Since you made a reference to books on racism, how about you point out the books where I've erred. If you're going to make the assertion that I misinterpreted some books, articles, or studies, PROVE IT.
edit: And you're back to the one drop rule again as if I didn't already explain it several times that the Spanish used it when they colonized the American continent and that it doesn't matter what they called it especially if it was literally and functionally the same exact
ing thing with a different ing name.edit2: Shit, the US even used it against Native Americans.
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YendelTrex
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dohdough I only read your first sentence the links may talk about the topic I did not and you have no foundation of any sort to base your assumption on my knowledge of self-identification. After that I am positive the rest will be the same crap and circle jerk BS you are so fond of. Oh screw it You know what you win. I will not argue with stupid ie YOU. You are an idiot!
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[quote name='dohdough']You want me to find a quote? You? Someone that couldn't ass themself into posting proof on your own? Someone that called it a dog and pony show when I told you to? How about you find your own goddamn quotes. Here's a hint: there are two of them from the last 24 hours and 40 minutes.[/quote]
I think if you're going to accuse me of saying something, then, yes, I have the right to ask you to supply such a quote.
That wasn't my argument at all. My point is it's absurd to say they're using the term "white-Hispanic" in an attempt to distance him from the "white" race when simply using the term "Hispanic" would do a better job at that. Also, you'll find articles from the beginning (including our very own OP) that jumped at the chance at pointing out the whiteness of Zimmerman. The white/Hispanic/white-Hispanic issues in early articles could be attributed to the confusion surrounding the story and the rush by the 24-hour news cycle to get the story on air with fewer fact checks because we can always correct it later.
I think if you're going to accuse me of saying something, then, yes, I have the right to ask you to supply such a quote.
That wasn't my argument at all. My point is it's absurd to say they're using the term "white-Hispanic" in an attempt to distance him from the "white" race when simply using the term "Hispanic" would do a better job at that. Also, you'll find articles from the beginning (including our very own OP) that jumped at the chance at pointing out the whiteness of Zimmerman. The white/Hispanic/white-Hispanic issues in early articles could be attributed to the confusion surrounding the story and the rush by the 24-hour news cycle to get the story on air with fewer fact checks because we can always correct it later.
[quote name='YendelTrex']dohdough I only read your first sentence. You know what you win. I will not argue with stupid ie YOU. You are an idiot!
YT[/QUOTE]
Hey bob, looks like you have a post to report!
You know what? I can actually appreciate being flamed. Especially if they're done creatively. You can call me any name in theing book, but at least address the points.
edit: forgot to close the spoiler tag...lulz
YT[/QUOTE]
Hey bob, looks like you have a post to report!
HAHAHA...I know you won't.
You know what? I can actually appreciate being flamed. Especially if they're done creatively. You can call me any name in the
ing book, but at least address the points.edit: forgot to close the spoiler tag...lulz
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[quote name='dohdough']Hey bob, looks like you have a post to report!
HAHAHA...I know you won't.[/quote]
I am glad I avoided the whole "argument".
tl:dr Quite frankly when a term can describe someone with red hair and blue eyes as well as someone who looks asian or black they obviously aren't treated exactly the same.
[/quote]I am glad I avoided the whole "argument".
tl:dr Quite frankly when a term can describe someone with red hair and blue eyes as well as someone who looks asian or black they obviously aren't treated exactly the same.
[quote name='UncleBob']I think if you're going to accuse me of saying something, then, yes, I have the right to ask you to supply such a quote.[/QUOTE]
*Ahem* I'm not your dog and pony show.
Funny how that works eh?
I already pointed you in the right direction and you only need to parse through 2 pages. I'm not doing ALL your homework for you.
edit: I went back and re-read our exchange. You are absolutely correct in me initially misinterpreting your argument of media being more effective at changing the narrative if they left it strictly as Hispanic rather than a hypenated Hispanic. While a couple of previous posts address that issue as well as the paragraph above, I'm sorry for the undeserved hostility from me. I mean this sincerely.
Although, if you posted proof like I asked you to, I would've apologized sooner.
*Ahem* I'm not your dog and pony show.
Funny how that works eh?
I already pointed you in the right direction and you only need to parse through 2 pages. I'm not doing ALL your homework for you.
They DID categorize him as Hispanic and white-Hispanic is a more accurate description of him because he passes for white. Having ____-Hispanic or just plain not 100% white is already more than enough for most white people to disassociate his actions from coming from their own racial group. Hell, even white-Hispanic isn't that accurate for him because it's applied when referring to someone of mainly Spanish ancestry and not to denote a multiracial person.
edit: I went back and re-read our exchange. You are absolutely correct in me initially misinterpreting your argument of media being more effective at changing the narrative if they left it strictly as Hispanic rather than a hypenated Hispanic. While a couple of previous posts address that issue as well as the paragraph above, I'm sorry for the undeserved hostility from me. I mean this sincerely.
Although, if you posted proof like I asked you to, I would've apologized sooner.
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YendelTrex
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[quote name='GBAstar']It was mentioned in an article that someone on Rush's staff found that when Zimmerman was referenced to as a "White Hispanic" by the NY Times it was only the FOURTH time in the publications history that that word had been used.[/QUOTE]
Forgot to say thanks for the reply Wish I didn't waste the time I did on it.
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Then again, I believe the average user on here save for some segments of CAG is 15-16, so that may factor into it a bit.[/QUOTE]
This explains quite a bit.
Forgot to say thanks for the reply
Wish I didn't waste the time I did on it. [quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Then again, I believe the average user on here save for some segments of CAG is 15-16, so that may factor into it a bit.[/QUOTE]
This explains quite a bit.
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[quote name='dohdough']edit: I went back and re-read our exchange. You are absolutely correct in me initially misinterpreting your argument of media being more effective at changing the narrative if they left it strictly as Hispanic rather than a hypenated Hispanic. While a couple of previous posts address that issue as well as the paragraph above, I'm sorry for the undeserved hostility from me. I mean this sincerely.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. It's appreciated.
Thank you. It's appreciated.
YendelTrex
Banned
George Zimmerman had bandages on nose and head after shooting, neighbors say
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...n-nose-and-head-after-shooting-neighbors-say/
George Zimmerman and the Rush to Judgment
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/george-zimmermans-psychology-judgment/story?id=16127266#.T442G9nSaN8
and old news....
Don Cheadle Slams NBC Over George Zimmerman 911 Call Controversy
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2012/04/05/don_cheadle_slams_nbc_over_george_zimm
and the comedic break...
zimdecisioon 2012
Listen to the end and the nancy grace part on this first one.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-12-2012/zimdecision-2012
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-12-2012/zimdecision-2012---the-trial-of-the-millennium
Racist Timeout..........Hilarious!!!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-4-2012/racist-time-out
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...n-nose-and-head-after-shooting-neighbors-say/
George Zimmerman and the Rush to Judgment
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/george-zimmermans-psychology-judgment/story?id=16127266#.T442G9nSaN8
and old news....
Don Cheadle Slams NBC Over George Zimmerman 911 Call Controversy
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2012/04/05/don_cheadle_slams_nbc_over_george_zimm
and the comedic break...
zimdecisioon 2012
Listen to the end and the nancy grace part on this first one.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-12-2012/zimdecision-2012
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-april-12-2012/zimdecision-2012---the-trial-of-the-millennium
Racist Timeout..........Hilarious!!!
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-4-2012/racist-time-out
IAmTheCheapestGamer
Banned
[quote name='Msut77']Again, you can identify every single person in your neighborhood by their dimly lit silhouette?[/quote]
That I do. That I do.
Compared to our old neighborhood, where you could practically hear a pin drop(literally) at 10-11pm because it was so quiet, this neighborhood is like Grand Central Station and the Autobahn in the summer time.
That I do. That I do.
Actually the one neighbor(old guy who's lived here 40 years) was of no help when neighbor kids(he claimed not to know them but called em by name a few days later when he saw them) were vandalizing the lawn we just had planted when we first moved here and he nitpicks about where I throw my snow in the winter(on the corner of our sidewalks in the front but still on OUR property) among other things. So my opinion of him is he can go himself.
The other close neighbor just moved in about 2-4 years ago and her and her family/friends slam their car doors really loud all hours of day and night. Not to mention she tried telling me where to take my dog in our fenced in yard to take a shit. So she can geted too.
In other words, I don't personally know my neighbors, don't like them and that's staying that way because they've been a pair of ignorants to me. If I tried to extend the olive branch to either of them, I'd likely wanna smack either of them with it upside the head.
) were vandalizing the lawn we just had planted when we first moved here and he nitpicks about where I throw my snow in the winter(on the corner of our sidewalks in the front but still on OUR property) among other things. So my opinion of him is he can go himself. The other close neighbor just moved in about 2-4 years ago and her and her family/friends slam their car doors really loud all hours of day and night. Not to mention she tried telling me where to take my dog in our fenced in yard to take a shit. So she can get
ed too. In other words, I don't personally know my neighbors, don't like them and that's staying that way because they've been a pair of ignorant
s to me. If I tried to extend the olive branch to either of them, I'd likely wanna smack either of them with it upside the head.Damn right. The woman I mentioned above has a virtual revolving door on her house. She has friends/relatives staying over a good 80% of the time. They hog all of the available spots on the street, not only in front of her house but in front of ours and the neighbor on the other side of her house.
Compared to our old neighborhood, where you could practically hear a pin drop(literally) at 10-11pm because it was so quiet, this neighborhood is like Grand Central Station and the Autobahn in the summer time.
YendelTrex
Banned
[quote name='renique46']Yendel=pliskin?
They both cry and bail out of an argument the same exact way while calling dohdough an poopyhead hmmm :lol:[/QUOTE]
and who the are you?
I was arguing with the resident squatter of this thread the self-appointed professor obsessor of all things race and zimmerman > dohdough and strange I do not remember it involving you. Are you posting just to be an adolescent troublemaker?
If you want to debate something with me bring it on otherwise shut the up and go to school!!!
They both cry and bail out of an argument the same exact way while calling dohdough an poopyhead hmmm :lol:[/QUOTE]
and who the
are you?I was arguing with the resident squatter of this thread the self-appointed professor obsessor of all things race and zimmerman > dohdough and strange I do not remember it involving you. Are you posting just to be an adolescent troublemaker?
If you want to debate something with me bring it on otherwise shut the
up and go to school!!!YendelTrex
Banned
[quote name='renique46']Once again late for clan rallys i suppose[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']And this has anything to do with that night because....?
[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']In your own idiotic way but whatever.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']Don't know how they keep confusing their stormfront logins with cag.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']So after establishing Martin was black with the Dispatcher, what was so hard with just simply saying "he looks like he's gonna get away" instead he chooses to say "they always get away" like a dumb ass. Wtf? They? Whose they? A Black kid in a hoodie? Martin is just one person last time i checked, poor choice of words regardless of how much his uncle tom friends want to vouch for him. And people expect others to not think he was racially profiling someone? stfu[/QUOTE]
uncle tom? really???!!
[quote name='renique46']At the end of the day this right here is pretty much all that matters period. How anyone can justify anything that happens after this is beyond me, people truly cant be this stupid.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']Yendel=pliskin?
They both cry and bail out of an argument the same exact way while calling dohdough an poopyhead hmmm :lol:[/QUOTE]
Just as I thought you are a troll and one might say that you are also msut77 since many of your posts in this thread are right next to msut77 or maybe all three of you are the same msut77, dohdough and you. Who knows and who the cares!!
What is certain is you are a troll and just visit this thread to relieve yourself.
Move along now...shoo fly!!
P.S. So I am not the only one to have an issue with dohdough I take it. I am sure I am not the first and certainly will not be last and there are probably many in between.
[quote name='renique46']And this has anything to do with that night because....?
[/QUOTE][quote name='renique46']In your own idiotic way but whatever.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']Don't know how they keep confusing their stormfront logins with cag.
[/QUOTE][quote name='renique46']So after establishing Martin was black with the Dispatcher, what was so hard with just simply saying "he looks like he's gonna get away" instead he chooses to say "they always get away" like a dumb ass. Wtf? They? Whose they? A Black kid in a hoodie? Martin is just one person last time i checked, poor choice of words regardless of how much his uncle tom friends want to vouch for him. And people expect others to not think he was racially profiling someone? stfu[/QUOTE]
uncle tom? really???!!
[quote name='renique46']At the end of the day this right here is pretty much all that matters period. How anyone can justify anything that happens after this is beyond me, people truly cant be this stupid.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='renique46']Yendel=pliskin?
They both cry and bail out of an argument the same exact way while calling dohdough an poopyhead hmmm :lol:[/QUOTE]
Just as I thought you are a troll and one might say that you are also msut77 since many of your posts in this thread are right next to msut77 or maybe all three of you are the same msut77, dohdough and you. Who knows and who the
cares!!What is certain is you are a troll and just visit this thread to relieve yourself.
Move along now...shoo fly!!
P.S. So I am not the only one to have an issue with dohdough I take it. I am sure I am not the first and certainly will not be last and there are probably many in between.
[quote name='YendelTrex']George Zimmerman had bandages on nose and head after shooting, neighbors say
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...n-nose-and-head-after-shooting-neighbors-say/
[/quote]
His perp walk video says otherwise.
[quote name='YendelTrex']and who the are you?
I was arguing with the resident squatter of this thread the self-appointed professor obsessor of all things race and zimmerman > dohdough and strange I do not remember it involving you. Are you posting just to be an adolescent troublemaker?
If you want to debate something with me bring it on otherwise shut the up and go to school!!![/QUOTE]
Sounds like you a a little case of projection here. No one here asked you to make non-observant statements about details on the case that have already been released, but you decide to post your ignorant comments anyways. I guess when you were talking about me not liking being called out, you were talking about yourself.
Or maybe if you weren't such a cliche of a troll, then no one would've made comparisons to the other trolls we've had recently.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...n-nose-and-head-after-shooting-neighbors-say/
[/quote]
His perp walk video says otherwise.
And?
NBC was chastised and fired people for it, not to mention that it was on the today show. You can't say the same thing for Fox News and James O'Keefe.
If you have something interesting to say about it, then say it. I'm guessing you don't.
[quote name='YendelTrex']and who the
are you?I was arguing with the resident squatter of this thread the self-appointed professor obsessor of all things race and zimmerman > dohdough and strange I do not remember it involving you. Are you posting just to be an adolescent troublemaker?
If you want to debate something with me bring it on otherwise shut the
up and go to school!!![/QUOTE]Sounds like you a a little case of projection here. No one here asked you to make non-observant statements about details on the case that have already been released, but you decide to post your ignorant comments anyways. I guess when you were talking about me not liking being called out, you were talking about yourself.
Or maybe if you weren't such a cliche of a troll, then no one would've made comparisons to the other trolls we've had recently.
[quote name='YendelTrex']uncle tom? really???!!
Just as I thought you are a troll and one might say that you are also msut77 since many of your posts in this thread are right next to msut77 or maybe all three of you are the same msut77, dohdough and you. Who knows and who the cares!!
What is certain is you are a troll and just visit this thread to relieve yourself.
Move along now...shoo fly!!
P.S. So I am not the only one to have an issue with dohdough I take it. I am sure I am not the first and certainly will not be last and there are probably many in between.[/QUOTE]
So you go back through 19 days of posts to show us his thread history, yet, you can't ass yourself to compose a post proving all your points from the last 4 pages about me as correct. You're hilarious.
Just as I thought you are a troll and one might say that you are also msut77 since many of your posts in this thread are right next to msut77 or maybe all three of you are the same msut77, dohdough and you. Who knows and who the
cares!!What is certain is you are a troll and just visit this thread to relieve yourself.
Move along now...shoo fly!!
P.S. So I am not the only one to have an issue with dohdough I take it. I am sure I am not the first and certainly will not be last and there are probably many in between.[/QUOTE]
So you go back through 19 days of posts to show us his thread history, yet, you can't ass yourself to compose a post proving all your points from the last 4 pages about me as correct. You're hilarious.
YendelTrex
Banned
[quote name='dohdough']So you go back through 19 days of posts to show us his thread history, yet, you can't ass yourself to compose a post proving all your points from the last 4 pages about me as correct. You're hilarious.[/QUOTE]
I ignored that request of yours earlier because I quoted each post at the time you posted it if I had issue with it and addressed the issue specifically each time at the time. Then we continued from there. Your earlier request also seemed to be wanting me to prove it to "everyone" where I as I said addressed it with you at the time and I was not arguing with "everyone".
You had your chance to defend your BS and didn't do it (not really) but just played little games probably because there was no defending it as you were wrong and full of it.
Your request is just more of the same from you. BS and games.
So you Know I did not go through nineteen days of posts I clicked their name and magically it allows me to see just their posts.
I ignored that request of yours earlier because I quoted each post at the time you posted it if I had issue with it and addressed the issue specifically each time at the time. Then we continued from there. Your earlier request also seemed to be wanting me to prove it to "everyone" where I as I said addressed it with you at the time and I was not arguing with "everyone".
You had your chance to defend your BS and didn't do it (not really) but just played little games probably because there was no defending it as you were wrong and full of it.
Your request is just more of the same from you. BS and games.
So you Know I did not go through nineteen days of posts I clicked their name and magically it allows me to see just their posts.
YendelTrex
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[quote name='dohdough']His perp walk video says otherwise.
And?
NBC was chastised and fired people for it, not to mention that it was on the today show. You can't say the same thing for Fox News and James O'Keefe.
If you have something interesting to say about it, then say it. I'm guessing you don't.
Sounds like you a a little case of projection here. No one here asked you to make non-observant statements about details on the case that have already been released, but you decide to post your ignorant comments anyways. I guess when you were talking about me not liking being called out, you were talking about yourself.
Or maybe if you weren't such a cliche of a troll, then no one would've made comparisons to the other trolls we've had recently.[/QUOTE]
What on god's green earth are you rambling about now?
First if you clicked the link about bandages on zimmerman it said the next day also the video from the night before is grainy and shows what could or could not be an injury. When more facts are releaed from the medical on scene that night and and records after then we will know more.
I am not aware of what James Okeefe did. Why don't you post a link for me?
"If you have something interesting to say about it, then say it. I'm guessing you don't."
Did I say I have something interesting to say about it?. It was COMEDY and didn't I state that? I thought I did? That is what I wanted to say and said. DUH!! (i get the feeling you do not get comedy and can't appreciate it that stick (or head of yours) is to far up your bum)
The rest of your post is just more ramblings so I wont waste anymore of my time with the madness known as dohdough's BS.
And?
NBC was chastised and fired people for it, not to mention that it was on the today show. You can't say the same thing for Fox News and James O'Keefe.
If you have something interesting to say about it, then say it. I'm guessing you don't.
Sounds like you a a little case of projection here. No one here asked you to make non-observant statements about details on the case that have already been released, but you decide to post your ignorant comments anyways. I guess when you were talking about me not liking being called out, you were talking about yourself.
Or maybe if you weren't such a cliche of a troll, then no one would've made comparisons to the other trolls we've had recently.[/QUOTE]
What on god's green earth are you rambling about now?
First if you clicked the link about bandages on zimmerman it said the next day also the video from the night before is grainy and shows what could or could not be an injury. When more facts are releaed from the medical on scene that night and and records after then we will know more.
I am not aware of what James Okeefe did. Why don't you post a link for me?
"If you have something interesting to say about it, then say it. I'm guessing you don't."
Did I say I have something interesting to say about it?. It was COMEDY and didn't I state that? I thought I did? That is what I wanted to say and said. DUH!! (i get the feeling you do not get comedy and can't appreciate it that stick (or head of yours) is to far up your bum)
The rest of your post is just more ramblings so I wont waste anymore of my time with the madness known as dohdough's BS.
[quote name='YendelTrex']I ignored that request of yours earlier because I quoted each post at the time you posted it if I had issue with it and addressed the issue specifically each time at the time. Then we continued from there. Your earlier request also seemed to be wanting me to prove it to "everyone" where I as I said addressed it with you at the time and I was not arguing with "everyone".[/QUOTE]
Yet you felt the need to do it with renique46. Why? Probably because they have posts that are easy enough for you to disseminate.
[quote name='YendelTrex']What on god's green earth are you rambling about now?
First if you clicked the link about bandages on zimmerman it said the next day also the video from the night before is grainy and shows what could or could not be an injury. When more facts are releaed from the medical on scene that night and and records after then we will know more.[/QUOTE]
AhAHAhAHA...yeah...let's focus on that one area and ENHANCE! It's not like it could just be artifacts from the increased filter on photoshop or anything. I don't know how familiar you are with head injuries, possibly very familiar considering your posts, but the type of swelling you'd get from the type of attack he allegedly got would show up pretty quick. You also don't get your head beat to the point of unconsciousness without being required to goto the hospital. We don't have to know every little detail and can make reasonable assumptions about the information we have.
Yet you felt the need to do it with renique46. Why? Probably because they have posts that are easy enough for you to disseminate.
Saying I'm playing games, saying that I'm wrong without saying why, calling my points BS...now that's all well and good, but if you're not going to address the points without any substance, well, you're just using circular logic which is exemplified by your entire post.
This is very similar to someone else that used to post here. Now I don't think you're Pliskin101, but probably endemic to your mutual levels of ignorance.
Just like how you could've done with mine and yours.
[quote name='YendelTrex']What on god's green earth are you rambling about now?
First if you clicked the link about bandages on zimmerman it said the next day also the video from the night before is grainy and shows what could or could not be an injury. When more facts are releaed from the medical on scene that night and and records after then we will know more.[/QUOTE]
AhAHAhAHA...yeah...let's focus on that one area and ENHANCE! It's not like it could just be artifacts from the increased filter on photoshop or anything. I don't know how familiar you are with head injuries, possibly very familiar considering your posts, but the type of swelling you'd get from the type of attack he allegedly got would show up pretty quick. You also don't get your head beat to the point of unconsciousness without being required to goto the hospital. We don't have to know every little detail and can make reasonable assumptions about the information we have.
You quoted Fox News in an earlier post, so you can google him yourself.
Now this right here is very Pliskin-like. Comedy is a very interesting form of art because it can be overtly performed or subtly performed, so that it can be appreciated at different levels. Judging from your response, you probably saw Chappelle's Show and thought it was all "Rick James BITCH!" and the crack-face character without looking into the social commentary of a vast majority of his skits.
Admit it. You can't help yourself.
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