Black Woman is tortured in W. VA mobile home

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look at the girl at the bottom right.
Now Look at the "zombie" in Temporaryscars sig on the left side.

:hot:
 
[quote name='D_Icon']look at the girl at the bottom right.
Now Look at the "zombie" in Temporaryscars sig on the left side.

:hot:[/quote]

Aw jesus...isn't the universe supposed to implode now? Way to go!
 
[quote name='the ender']Congratulations, asshole. You don't know this, but the entire thread was about this type of thinking.

You're just as much a racist as a person who calls black people uneducated lazy niggers. You can't be prejudiced against a group of people just because it is socially acceptable to bash them instead of another group.

Also, on a less mature note, I'd wager that any "mountain man" would beat the hell out of your insolent ass.[/QUOTE]

Now you are the one who is uneducated. Look at cultures like the yanomamo, iroquois, and eskimo, the ideal marraige is cross cousin. If you dont believe me, here is the proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_cousin

The appalachians' subculture really isnt all that different because of the small local population. Much of the time, they are kissin cousins and may not even realize it. Its not a racial slur or a prejudice, it is pure fact. If you want to put on the blinders and blindly dismiss what i am saying as racist or prejudice, then you are just plain ignorant.

As far as comparing the torturers in this article to the torturers in the film "deliverance", that is right on the money imo. If you missed the movie, that was the film were the ned beaty character was tortured and raped by mountain men with no teeth. "he's got a real purty mouth" etc.

Oh, and the part about torturing with whips and chains for sexual pleasure-that was a joke. I guess that doesnt come across on the internet.
 
[quote name='dracula']The appalachians' subculture really isnt all that different because of the small local population. Much of the time, they are kissin cousins and may not even realize it. Its not a racial slur or a prejudice, it is pure fact. If you want to put on the blinders and blindly dismiss what i am saying as racist or prejudice, then you are just plain ignorant.[/quote]
OH MY GOD. No way. Are you seriously THIS fuckING STUPID???

No shit that some (key word) Appalachian people are the kissin' cousins types. That sort of thing happens among all sorts of people, of course.

What made your comment a prejudiced, ignorant, stereotypical, and derogatory statement was when you implied that ALL such people are "inbred hicks that like to fuck their sisters." Applying a characteristic that is present in only a fraction of a population to that ENTIRE population, or even assuming that it is present in any individual from the group (without having any knowledge of this individual, other than their belonging to the group), is literally the very definition of a stereotype.

You're basically arguing that a stereotype is permissible, even valid, as long as the trait is actually present in any of the members of the population in question, which is just the most insanely disgusting thing I've ever heard.

So, due to the STATISTICAL FACT that more African-American male youths are involved in gang activity than Caucasian male youths, it wouldn't be prejudiced or slurring at all for me to say that African-American youths are all just a bunch of disgusting, high school dropout gangstas who going around killing each other and going after "snitches" and selling drugs and being more or less scumbags in general?

Interesting.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']White pahr![/QUOTE]See, I summed up your point for you. Run your posts by me in the future and I'll edit them for you.
 
[quote name='jmcc']See, I summed up your point for you. Run your posts by me in the future and I'll edit them for you.[/QUOTE]
You stupid fucker.

Wanting equality in ALL respects = being a white supremacist, great logic there.

I won't see your retarded edits, because you are now ignored.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']You stupid fucker.

Wanting equality in ALL respects = being a white supremacist, great logic there.

I won't see your retarded edits, because you are now ignored.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't even his point...
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']OH MY GOD. No way. Are you seriously THIS fuckING STUPID???

You're basically arguing that a stereotype is permissible, even valid, as long as the trait is actually present in any of the members of the population in question, which is just the most insanely disgusting thing I've ever heard.[/quote]

the only stereotype I made was about the sick criminals that commit torture and similar acts in appalachians areas. I think it is pretty safe to say that nearly ALL of the sick bastards that commit such heinous crimes in the appalachians are fucking their sisters. Am i predujuding all torturers? probably. If the shoe fits.

So, due to the STATISTICAL FACT that more African-American male youths are involved in gang activity than Caucasian male youths, it wouldn't be prejudiced or slurring at all for me to say that African-American youths are all just disgusting,

Interesting.


i think it is pretty safe to say that people killing a rival gang member and then getting arrested for it , well i would say they are almost certainly in a gang. Does that make me prejudiced against gang members? i think that it would be self evident. You are arguing something completely different.

If you fail to see that, then yes, you really are as stupid as you sound. You seriously thing that the toturers are NOT in bred hicks?

interesting.
 
[quote name='dracula']You seriously thing that the toturers are NOT in bred hicks?

interesting.[/QUOTE]
I'm think that assuming they're incestuous because they're Appalacian is a stereotype.

Interesting that you deny that.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']I'm think that assuming they're incestuous because they're Appalacian is a stereotype.

Interesting that you deny that.[/quote]

Stereotypes don't pop out of thin air.

I don't know why you're being defensive, FL is usually not looped with what most people think of as "The South."
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Stereotypes don't pop out of thin air.

I don't know why you're being defensive, FL is usually not looped with what most people think of as "The South."[/QUOTE]

florida fought for the conferdacy in the civil war. They wanted to keep slavery along with the rest of the south. Florida seceded as well. It became a separate state from the Union because they wanted to remain a slave state. so yeah they are looped in with the rest of the southern states.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Stereotypes don't pop out of thin air.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't make them right.

[quote name='Temporaryscars']I don't know why you're being defensive, FL is usually not looped with what most people think of as "The South."[/QUOTE]
An old joke says that Florida is made up of South Georgia and North Cuba.

Also, you don't have to be a part of a group to not want to see it prejudiced against and stereotyped. A lot of the people here who seem to be rushing to the defense of various minorities are doing the same thing.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Stereotypes don't pop out of thin air.

I don't know why you're being defensive, FL is usually not looped with what most people think of as "The South."[/quote]
North Florida is very southern like, in South FL (the part I live in) most of the people living here actually come from northern states (for example, most of the people in my neighborhood came from NYC, or from other countries entirely. I'm one of the natives though :)).

I do wonder why though that article a few weeks ago about how six black people killed two white girls (in TN) wasn't on any major news stations...
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']I'm think that assuming they're incestuous because they're Appalacian is a stereotype.

Interesting that you deny that.[/QUOTE]

i assume that torturers in the appalachians are definitely procucts of incest.

The torturers forced the victim to eat feces along with the other merciless acts show a total wonton disregard for human life. damn right they were products of incest. Probably several generations of incest. i dont deny that at all
 
[quote name='dracula']florida fought for the conferdacy in the civil war. They wanted to keep slavery along with the rest of the south. Florida seceded as well. It became a separate state from the Union because they wanted to remain a slave state. so yeah they are looped in with the rest of the southern states.[/quote]

Yeah, but come on. Being on the southern side of the civil war may have made you a south state 100 years ago, but today, come on. What is FL more known for, their hicks or their vacationing old people?

Ok, slightly OT, but whatev.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Yeah, but come on. Being on the southern side of the civil war may have made you a south state 100 years ago, but today, come on. What is FL more known for, their hicks or their vacationing old people?

Ok, slightly OT, but whatev.[/quote]
It really depends on which part of the state you're in. If you live in Jacksonville or Pensacola you're considered living in the south, but if you're in Miami or West Palm Beach it's completely different. Oddly enough, the further north you go the more south you get.

CoffeEdge, did you know that native white Floridians refer to themselves as "Florida crackers?". ;)
 
[quote name='Rozz']North Florida is very southern like, in South FL (the part I live in) most of the people living here actually come from northern states (for example, most of the people in my neighborhood came from NYC, or from other countries entirely. I'm one of the natives though :)).[/quote]

Yeah a lot of people go there to retire because the heat loosens the joints and makes arthritis less painful. Is it a racial slur to call them raisens with sneakers?

And i can believe there are loads of transplants- not just retirees, who move to florida because of the nice weather

I do wonder why though that article a few weeks ago about how six black people killed two white girls (in TN) wasn't on any major news stations...

did they torture them before killing them?
 
[quote name='dracula']Yeah a lot of people go there to retire because the heat loosens the joints and makes arthritis less painful. Is it a racial slur to call them raisens with sneakers?

And i can believe there are loads of transplants- not just retirees, who move to florida because of the nice weather



did they torture them before killing them?[/quote]

So murder only counts if you torture somebody first? That's nice to know. Where do you live again? :D :cool:
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']Yeah, but come on. Being on the southern side of the civil war may have made you a south state 100 years ago, but today, come on. What is FL more known for, their hicks or their vacationing old people?

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florida had just as many jim crowe laws until the 1960s as any other southern state.

These laws denied black people to vote, they could not use the same restaurants, drink from the same public water fountains, use the same public restrooms etc. This is called institutionalized racisim.

that wasnt that long ago.

if you want to say that the 1960s is too long ago, look at the 2000 presidential election. Most of the black people in florida had their ballots shredded. Sadly, even in the 21st century, institutionalized racism is alive and kicking.
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']So murder only counts if you torture somebody first? That's nice to know. Where do you live again? :D :cool:[/QUOTE]

i live in los angeles. And yeah, in los angeles murder may not even make the news because it is so frequent. We have become desensitized to that news.

But we dont hear about torture every day, that is something that would only happen once every blue moon. That is what makes it newsworthy.
 
[quote name='dracula']i live in los angeles. And yeah, in los angeles murder may not even make the news because it is so frequent. We have become desensitized to that news.

But we dont hear about torture every day, that is something that would only happen once every blue moon. That is what makes it newsworthy.[/quote]

But isn't living in LA considered torture?


OOOH! ZING!
 
[quote name='Temporaryscars']But isn't living in LA considered torture?


OOOH! ZING![/QUOTE]


maybe if i lived in the valley, that would be torture. I remember watching the tv show "24" when the valley got nuked, my first response was, "good riddance".
 
[quote name='dracula']i live in los angeles. And yeah, in los angeles murder may not even make the news because it is so frequent. We have become desensitized to that news.

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The city I live in Florida is more dangerous than L.A. :hot:
 
[quote name='Rozz']CoffeEdge, did you know that native white Floridians refer to themselves as "Florida crackers?". ;)[/QUOTE]
Gee, I'm a born Floridian who has always lived here, so you don't need to tell me what us "native white Floridians" do. Aand no one I know has ever used that term.

[quote name='dracula']Yeah a lot of people go there to retire because the heat loosens the joints and makes arthritis less painful. Is it a racial slur to call them raisens with sneakers?[/QUOTE]
Retirees are a race? WTF?
 
[quote name='Rozz']The city I live in Florida is more dangerous than L.A. :hot:[/QUOTE]


What city? I am in west los angeles, which is pretty safe, the worst thing that has happened to me was when the handlebars of my bike got stolen.

The things you see in the movies,like in american history X, like the KKK killing people on the basketball courts of venice beach, well that just never happened. Sure, it is a high(er) crime area, but nothing on that scale.
 
[quote name='Rozz']And CoffeEdge, southerners don't come 'round these parts very often but if we do see a native southern Floridian they are typically referred to as "crackers".[/QUOTE]
Well that's not very nice. :/
 
[quote name='Rozz']I live in West Palm Beach, about an hour from Miami.

You can check out the comparisons here (between WPB and L.A.):

http://www.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=west+palm+beach&s1=FL&c2=los+angeles&s2=CA

And CoffeEdge, southerners don't come 'round these parts very often but if we do see a native southern Floridian they are typically referred to as "crackers".[/quote]

My city can give yours a run for its money.

http://www.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=West+Palm+Beach&s1=FL&c2=Baltimore&s2=MD
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']We don't consider Florida being part of the South.[/QUOTE]


obviously you are not a black man who lived in florida in the 1960s who had his civil rights violated on a daily basis.

As for the part about being

Retirees are a race? WTF?

earlier in this thread someone told me i was really racist for using the term "mountain men" to describe the criminals in the OP. They are bound to say that i am racist for saying that when people retire, they like florida.

BTW, Oj Simpson murdered his wife.

indeed, that was only 9 or 10 blocks from where i live now(he was in brentwood, i am in west los angeles, not too far, roughly 1 mile to 1.5 miles from me.

It definitely happens, and as for the dude saying that west palm beach, FL has a higher crime rate than los angeles, i dont doubt it.

Los angeles is a big area, if you look at the crime blotter in one section of los angeles county, it is near non existant. If you look at crenshaw or another high crime area, well it has a lot more violent crime. I *think* the highest crime rate of anywhere in the country was somewhere in new jersey, maybe trenton? It is really nothing to brag about.
 
Black people are messed up. When you hear that gangsta rap music, or rather, when you hear nothing but the bass from rap music playing at deafening and illegal volumes because they think it sounds really cool, you better run like hell.


This is true. I live in this environment and if you do tell them to turn it down you get your tires slashed.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Black people are messed up. When you hear that gangsta rap music, or rather, when you hear nothing but the bass from rap music playing at deafening and illegal volumes because they think it sounds really cool, you better run like hell.


This is true. I live in this environment and if you do tell them to turn it down you get your tires slashed.[/quote]You poor little white boy. :(
 
[quote name='dracula']obviously you are not a black man who lived in florida in the 1960s who had his civil rights violated on a daily basis.
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What does that have to do with what I said? Black people can't get lynched in the north?

Florida =/= The South. Fact.
 
I'll say what needs to be said.

Deep inside everyone's heart, even Jack Thompson and peace mongers, everyone at one point in their life feels that certain people on this planet are better off dead.

Seriously if a guy like me were president, this country would be very violent for a few months and then peaceful.

The bottom line is, all these San Fransisco, hybrid car driving peace mongers do nothing but PROTECT criminals. Oh so some guy raped a 13 year old girl, slit his mom's throat and then drove through a school yard in a bus blind folded? Oh he must have problems too and he needs help. Let's not kill him with the death penalty.

Sure, let's give every psycho murderer out there MORE incentive to give in to their motives and desires. Let's tell them that the crazier and more ruthless they are, the more protected they'll be by media and the mental insanity plea.

I don't think there should be a mental insanity plea. Oh you're crazy? Well you can die with the rest of the murderers then. If you're REALLY crazy, what good is a shrink and a clinic going to do besides feed you and have you play the same shapes through holes game you played when you were seven years old. The only thing the mental insanity plea does is give smarter criminals another way around the justice system. And guess what, a justice system with holes in it is NOT working.

But sure, let's focus on all the things that are wrong with the government that have jack squat to do with what's WRONG with the country. Let's blast Bush for being a war monger. Let's blast Dick Cheney for protecting gun laws. Let's talk about peace, bringing troops home and pollution and global warming and space and aliens, but let's forget about hate crimes, rape, pedophilles, the economy or any of the problems on OUR soil.

I can't stand how much politics have to dance through the tulips nowadays to avoid all the Michael Doyle's out there.

Hey you know what, next time someone breaks into your house, don't call the cops. How about, you give him everything you own, apologize to him for having more stuff than him and then sleep with him so he doesn't sue you for hurting his arm breaking in? Because I mean, we're only about two steps behind that.

I can't stand, how much people decide to take a stand on how strict or unfair politicians are. Let me ask you something... Is there such a thing as someone being 100% guilty? No? If that's the case, then why does the prosecution have to be 100% assuring.

Last I checked, I can't fill a 1 gallon jug with 3/4 of a gallon of truth available.

I seriously can't stand it. That whole family, the son, daughter, mother... All of them. Tell me I'm insane for thinking they should be dead. Why does my tax money have to pay for them getting 3 meals a day?
 
[quote name='Kayden']Black people are messed up. When you hear that gangsta rap music, or rather, when you hear nothing but the bass from rap music playing at deafening and illegal volumes because they think it sounds really cool, you better run like hell.


This is true. I live in this environment and if you do tell them to turn it down you get your tires slashed.[/quote] WOW are you serious. That just sad that you would even think to say something like that.
 
[quote name='NamelessMC']But sure, let's focus on all the things that are wrong with the government that have jack squat to do with what's WRONG with the country. Let's blast Bush for being a war monger. Let's blast Dick Cheney for protecting gun laws. Let's talk about peace, bringing troops home and pollution and global warming and space and aliens, but let's forget about hate crimes, rape, pedophilles, the economy or any of the problems on OUR soil.[/quote]

So over 3500 American soldiers dying in a foreign country as a result of bad intelligence/the president's revenge fantasies/the neocon agenda is not a problem now?

Great, now we can focus on "real" problems like random psychos, problems that societies have only faced everywhere throughout all recorded history.
 
I fully agree, but all those hybrid driving peace mongers have some decent points. Who's to say who should die? I used to think that line is bullshit-rhetoric, but really, if you think they should all die, could you be the one to kill them all? Even if you could (which I doubt), dozens of people have to watch every execution, could they stomach all that death? If you're unaffected by that much death and so willing to kill, doesn't that make you just as depraved as the murderers? Would we be better off without them? Yeah, but would you be better off killing them? And what if someone was later found innocent of those heinous crimes? Would you kill one innocent just to stop a dozen guilty?

Life and death are not toys to toss about so easily.

[quote name='NamelessMC']I'll say what needs to be said.

Deep inside everyone's heart, even Jack Thompson and peace mongers, everyone at one point in their life feels that certain people on this planet are better off dead.

Seriously if a guy like me were president, this country would be very violent for a few months and then peaceful.

The bottom line is, all these San Fransisco, hybrid car driving peace mongers do nothing but PROTECT criminals. Oh so some guy raped a 13 year old girl, slit his mom's throat and then drove through a school yard in a bus blind folded? Oh he must have problems too and he needs help. Let's not kill him with the death penalty.

Sure, let's give every psycho murderer out there MORE incentive to give in to their motives and desires. Let's tell them that the crazier and more ruthless they are, the more protected they'll be by media and the mental insanity plea.

I don't think there should be a mental insanity plea. Oh you're crazy? Well you can die with the rest of the murderers then. If you're REALLY crazy, what good is a shrink and a clinic going to do besides feed you and have you play the same shapes through holes game you played when you were seven years old. The only thing the mental insanity plea does is give smarter criminals another way around the justice system. And guess what, a justice system with holes in it is NOT working.

But sure, let's focus on all the things that are wrong with the government that have jack squat to do with what's WRONG with the country. Let's blast Bush for being a war monger. Let's blast Dick Cheney for protecting gun laws. Let's talk about peace, bringing troops home and pollution and global warming and space and aliens, but let's forget about hate crimes, rape, pedophilles, the economy or any of the problems on OUR soil.

I can't stand how much politics have to dance through the tulips nowadays to avoid all the Michael Doyle's out there.

Hey you know what, next time someone breaks into your house, don't call the cops. How about, you give him everything you own, apologize to him for having more stuff than him and then sleep with him so he doesn't sue you for hurting his arm breaking in? Because I mean, we're only about two steps behind that.

I can't stand, how much people decide to take a stand on how strict or unfair politicians are. Let me ask you something... Is there such a thing as someone being 100% guilty? No? If that's the case, then why does the prosecution have to be 100% assuring.

Last I checked, I can't fill a 1 gallon jug with 3/4 of a gallon of truth available.

I seriously can't stand it. That whole family, the son, daughter, mother... All of them. Tell me I'm insane for thinking they should be dead. Why does my tax money have to pay for them getting 3 meals a day?[/quote]

Someone on the first page said the top half and I just forgot to quote it. However, it is more or less true.
[quote name='Sc4rfac3']WOW are you serious. That just sad that you would even think to say something like that.[/quote]
 
[quote name='Kayden']
Someone on the first page said the top half and I just forgot to quote it. However, it is more or less true.[/quote] so its ok to label a whole race because of the actions of a select few people?
 
For the sake of irritating you, yes, yes it is perfectly fine.

[quote name='Sc4rfac3']so its ok to label a whole race because of the actions of a select few people?[/quote]
 
[quote name='Kayden']For the sake of irritating you, yes, yes it is perfectly fine.[/quote] just knowing your on cag upsets me.
 
[quote name='Kayden']Black people are messed up. When you hear that gangsta rap music, or rather, when you hear nothing but the bass from rap music playing at deafening and illegal volumes because they think it sounds really cool, you better run like hell.


This is true. I live in this environment and if you do tell them to turn it down you get your tires slashed.[/QUOTE]


Well you one good point... Gangsta rap is ridiculous, I'm tired of listening to it.. why should I buy your album to listen to you gloat about yourself, and how if we met in the streets, you'd fuck me up, fuck by bitch, and look cooler than me. Lets see how much ballin' you do when we don't buy your album.
People like Bass music.. you don't have to run from it. when it comes to music, or a song, bass is the most important part, its like a melody of its own. Just because people like [to] accentuate that.. LOUDLY isn' something you need to run from. LOL When I put bass in my car, I'll still be the same Thomas, LOL I can picture you running, "oh shit... here dey come!" LOL
 
[quote name='Sc4rfac3']just knowing your on cag upsets me.[/quote]

Just knowing you're going to reproduce upsets me, so we're even.
 
without reading the entire 10 pages. did the family try to blame tv and movies made them do it yet....

ummm yea sure hate crime really makes a difference, even if she was white im sure this family would been put away for a long time.


i love though how people think this is wrong BUT here locally a mexican can kill his family and rape a 10 year old girl YET there are people still think the dude is the victim and should be release. (dude played the race card, the mental challenged card and every other card)

its been like 2 + year they should just take the SOB out and shoot him in the street. maybe if we went back to the old west ways you wouldnt see all of this bullshit going on
 
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