Bridge Collapses into Mississippi River... 4 dead... 20-30 missing...

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The White House said Thursday that an inspection two years ago found structural deficiencies in the highway bridge that buckled during evening rush hour in Minneapolis.

White House press secretary Tony Snow said the Interstate 35W span rated 50 on a scale of 120 for structural stability.

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=261180

Pawlenty said the bridge was inspected by the Minnesota Department of Transportation in 2005 and 2006 and that no structural problems were noted. "There were some minor things that needed attention," he said.

U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman said federal transportation officials said the bridge was last inspected in 2004. Members of a National Transportation and Safety Board highway investigation team are heading to Minneapolis.

The bridge was scheduled for inspection this fall.

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_213191448.html

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Divers checked submerged cars in the Mississippi River Thursday for a count of victims still trapped beneath the twisted steel and concrete slabs of a collapsed bridge. As many as 30 people were reported missing as the rescue effort shifted to recovery. Gov. Tim Pawlenty also ordered an immediate inspection of all bridges in the state with similar designs.
The official death count from Wednesday evening's collapse stood at four Thursday morning, but Police Chief Tim Dolan said more bodies were in the water. Hospitals officials said 79 others were injured.
"We have a number of vehicles that are underneath big pieces of concrete, and we do know we have some people in those vehicles," Dolan said, though he said he did not have a number. "We know we do have more casualties at the scene."
The eight-lane Interstate 35W bridge, a major Minneapolis artery, was in the midst of repairs when the bridge buckled during the evening rush hour Wednesday. Dozens of cars plummeted more than 60 feet into the Mississippi River, some falling on top one of another. A school bus sat on the angled concrete.
In the river, divers were checking for bodies and taking down license plate numbers for authorities to track down the vehicles' owners. Getting the vehicles out was expected to take several days and involve moving around very large, heavy pieces of bridge.
"The bridge is still shifting," Dolan said. "We're dealing with the Mississippi River. We're dealing with currents. We're going to have to do it slowly and safely."
He said police estimate that 20 to 30 people were unaccounted for, though he stressed that it was just an estimate.
At Hennepin County Medical Center, patients had arrived in a steady stream after the collapse, some unconscious or moaning, some barely breathing, others with serious head and back injuries, Dr. William Heegaard said.
"There was blood everywhere," he said.
Relatives who couldn't find their loved ones at hospitals gathered in a hotel ballroom Thursday morning for any news, hoping for the best.
Ronald Engebresten, 57, was searching for his wife, Sherry. His daughter last heard from her when she left work in downtown Minneapolis Wednesday. Her cell phone has picked up with voice mail ever since.
"We are left with the hope that there is a Jane Doe in a hospital somewhere that's her," Engebretsen said.
"I've never wanted to see my brother so much in my life," said Kristi Foster, who went to an information center set up at a Holiday Inn looking for her brother Kirk. She hadn't had contact with her brother or his girlfriend, Krystle Webb, since the previous night.
Authorities initially said at least seven people had died, but Police Lt. Amelia Huffman lowered that number Thursday morning, saying, "The medical examiner's office only has four sets of remains." She said the initial reports were based on the best estimates authorities had.
As many as 50 vehicles tumbled into the river when the bridge collapsed, leaving those who could escape to scramble to shore. Some survivors carried the injured up the riverbank, while emergency workers tended to others on the ground and some jumped into the water to look for survivors. Fire and black smoke rose from the wreckage.
The Homeland Security Department said the collapse did not appear to be terrorism-related, but Hennepin County Sheriff Richard Stanek said Thursday that the cause was still unknown.
"All indications are that it was a collapse, not an act of someone doing it," Stanek said.
The first step of the federal investigation will be to recover pieces of the bridge and reassemble them, kind of like a jigsaw puzzle, to try and determine what happened, NTSB Chairman Mark Rosenker said.
Investigators also want to review video of the collapse, and were setting up a phone number for witnesses to call with information.
"It is clearly much too early in the initial stages of this investigation to have any idea what happened," Rosenker said.
The bridge was crowded with traffic, and a train had been passing beneath the roadway at the time it fell.
As the divers worked their way around at least a dozen submerged vehicles, Transportation Secretary Mary Peters announced a $5 million grant to help pay for rerouting traffic patterns around the disaster site.
"We fully understand what happened and we will take every step possible to ensure something like this will not happen again," Peters said.
Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., said up to $100 million in federal funds will also be available for rebuilding and recovery.
"A bridge in America just shouldn't fall down," Klobuchar said. "That's why we have called for this investigation."
In 2005, the 40-year-old bridge had been rated as "structurally deficient" and possibly in need of replacement, according to a federal database. The span rated 50 on a scale of 120 for structural stability in that review, White House press secretary Tony Snow said.
The U.S. Department of Transportation's inspector general last year criticized the Federal Highway Administration's oversight of interstate bridges, saying investigators found incorrect or outdated maximum weight limit calculations and weight limit postings in the National Bridge Inventory and in states' bridge databases.
Incorrect load ratings could endanger bridges by allowing heavier vehicles to cross than should be allowed, the inspector general said. The audit didn't identify any Minnesota bridges beyond noting that 3 percent of the state's bridges were structurally deficient, placing it at the low end among states.
Pawlenty said Thursday that there was no indication from that and other reviews that the bridge should be shut down. Peters added that "none of those ratings indicated there was any kind of danger."
This week, road crews had been working on the bridge's joints, guardrails and lights, with lane closures overnight on Tuesday and Wednesday. In 2001, the bridge had been fitted with a computerized anti-icing system that sprayed chemicals on the surface during winter weather, according to documents posted on the Minnesota Department of Transportation's Web site.
Wednesday evening, 18 construction workers were on the bridge when it collapsed, said Tom Sloan, head of the bridge division for Progressive Contractors Inc., in St. Michael.
The crew was placing concrete finish on the bridge for what he called a routine resurfacing project. "It was the final item on this phase of the project. Suddenly the bridge gave way," he said.
"They said they basically rode the bridge down to the water. They were sliding into cars and cars were sliding into them," he said. One of the workers was unaccounted for, he said.
The school bus had just crossed the bridge when the entire span of Interstate 35W crumpled into the river below. The bus stayed on concrete, and the children were able to escape unharmed out the back door.
Christine Swift's 10-year-old daughter, Kaleigh, was on the bus, returning from a field trip to Bunker Hills in Blaine. She said her daughter called her about 6:10 p.m.
"She was screaming, 'The bridge collapsed,'" Swift said. All the kids got off the bus safely, but about 10 of the children were injured, officials said.
The collapsed bridge is just blocks from the heart of Minneapolis, near tourist attractions like the new Guthrie Theater and the Stone Arch Bridge. As the steamy night progressed massive crowds of onlookers circulated in the area on foot or bicycle, some of them wearing Twins T-shirts and caps after departing Wednesday night's game at the nearby Metrodome early.
Thursday's game between the Twins and Kansas City Royals was called off, but the Twins decided to go ahead with Wednesday's rather than sending about 25,000 fans back out onto the congested highways. Inside the stadium, there was a moment of silence to honor victims.
The steel-arched bridge, built in 1967, rose 64 feet above the river and stretched 1,900 feet across the water. It was built with a single 458-foot-long steel arch to avoid the need for piers that might interfere with river navigation.
The river's depth at the bridge was not immediately available, but the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers maintains a channel depth of at least 9 feet in the Upper Mississippi to allow for barge traffic.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QP0O500&show_article=1
 
Yeah, it's pretty horrible. Lots of conflicting reports and rumors, but a witness on CNN was talking about the construction that was going on at the time. He spoke of the possibility that only one lane each way might have been open.
 
Have they ruled out this being a terrorist act? From what I've seen it doesn't sound like that's the case but in this day and age you never know....


Oh nevermind they just said the government made a statement that it doesn't look like it was.
 
I remember a couple years ago a bridge here in Kansas City started to separate in the middle of the winter. They had to shut it down for several months and secure/refurbish it before it was opened back up.
 
Holy Sh!t is right - I was going to head to the Twins game, but had been called home do to a sick child at day care. Too close of a call, way too close.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Have they ruled out this being a terrorist act? From what I've seen it doesn't sound like that's the case but in this day and age you never know....


Oh nevermind they just said the government made a statement that it doesn't look like it was.[/quote]

surprisingly enough i havent heard the possibility of terrorism mentioned once, not even on fox news. i updated the OP with a more recent story, sounds like there might be cars in under the water and bridge, but who knows, the eyewitness reports vary quite a bit on the number of cars that may or may not have been on the bridge.
 
When did it happen? I just read the article on Yahoo and it makes it seem like it was just minutes ago and just wondering when it happened.

But I doubt it's the terrorists, it didn't blow up, it looks like it just fell down.

At least 3 deadm but I'll be amazed if less than 25 dy.
 
My old roomates live about a mile from there. They're OK though.. whew.

With all the road construction we have every year in MN, I'm really shocked that *that* bridge, of all bridges, would fall like that..

I seriously hope that the estimates of only 1-6 dead is accurate.
 
[quote name='bmachine']This is one of my greatest (mostly irrational) fears. Just terrifying.

Did anyone see the Mothman Prophecies?[/QUOTE]

That movie freaked me out when I saw it. That was one of the first things I thought about when I heard the bridge collapse.

I thought it was the Washington Bridge, but it was another one. It's still scary to know that you're driving and just a sudden drop, the bridge is falling.

With MN's situation right now with a storm possibly coming (I saw lightening which doesn't look too good with the situation) and the hot weather, it's horrible.

I'm just listening to the radio and watching TV. Damn.
 
[quote name='1SwtDeception']That movie freaked me out when I saw it. That was one of the first things I thought about when I heard the bridge collapse.
[/QUOTE]

That movie is based on "fact" I live in southern Ohio and a couple of people from the Southwest side of the state that I know said there parents saw it.

Anyway RIP to those killed, that really has to be a horrible way to go.
 
Whenever something bad happens, terrorism doesn't have to be involved. God could just be in a bad mood for all you know.
 
[quote name='bmsdaddy']Been over that bridge many times. Holy fuck![/QUOTE]

Same here. Back when I lived at the U, I drove over it on a daily basis.
 
wow, that's really shocking. Makes you wonder about all the bridges you drive over all the time :|

My condolences for the families...

believe me someone is going to sue the state transportation system for this :|
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']

On a sidenote, I hope all CAG members are indeed safe and waiting on line for a Wii.[/QUOTE]


huh?
 
..... wow.

I just got home and only hearing about this now. I've been over that bridge quite a few times myself.

Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']..... wow.

I just got home and only hearing about this now. I've been over that bridge quite a few times myself.

Terrible. Absolutely terrible.[/QUOTE]


now see that's scary shit. a place you have driven over before could have been your death :O
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']now see that's scary shit. a place you have driven over before could have been your death :O[/quote]

I had my senior prom at the top floor of the world trade center so I know what you're talking about.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Whenever something bad happens, terrorism doesn't have to be involved. God could just be in a bad mood for all you know.[/QUOTE]

This is post 9/11 America. Everything is terrorism first.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']I heard one report saying the bridge had not been inspected since 2004. I find that hard to believe.[/quote]

The bridges only get checked once every ten years.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Pay him no attention, he's 100% trash.[/quote]

Man, you're like a bad case of diaherra. Stop following my ass.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Man, you're like a bad case of diaherra. Stop following my ass.[/QUOTE]

How about you two just put each other on your ignore lists. Problem solved.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']I heard one report saying the bridge had not been inspected since 2004. I find that hard to believe.[/QUOTE]

It was inspected last year.
 
I don't drive that bridge too often, but I do drive over the river on 494 from Eagan to Eden Prairie every week day. The traffic is terrible, and sometimes it comes to a dead stop on the bridge. It does occasionally pop into my mind what would happen if the bridge went down with everyone "parked" there like that. I guess now I know.

Watching the news tonight, some weird things popped up. There was a lawyer on TV for the construction company doing repair work on the bridge already. Lawyers waste no time I guess. Politicians are already pointing fingers. And the terrorism angle has been thoroughly played out too.

Some good stories of people helping people too.

This will take years to clean up and rebuild. Hard to take it all in right now.
 
[quote name='jrt1138']This will take years to clean up and rebuild. Hard to take it all in right now.[/QUOTE]

The fact of how big of a north/south corridor 35W is, the effects on the rest of the metro area is going to be enormous. Rush hour is bad enough as it is, now all that traffic has to be re-routed to already over crowded roads for a couple years. Its going to be a mess for a long time to come.
 
Did you people that mentioned it really, honestly, believe that this was maybe, possibly an act of terrorism?

Really?
 
Sounds like a freak accident to me. Shit happens. Can't say I'm gonna live in fear though and in fact I will have to cross a large bridge tommorow.
 
Looks like MN DOT is going to be forcing everyone off 35W at Stinson Blvd on the north side and at the I94/35W exit on the south side (About a 3 mile stretch). They are then going to be turning Hwy 280 into a temp freeway and closing off access to it from Broadway and Cty Rd B.

Don't know about you, but 280 is the equivalent of putting a band aid on a bullet wound. Downtown is fucked for quite some time to come.
 
Used to go on that bridge every Wed night (later than the hour this occurred). Guess I have to find an alternate route now. -_-

(totally not a selfish comment you clowns)
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']

On a sidenote, I hope all CAG members are indeed safe and waiting on line for a Wii.[/quote]


Wow.... Just wow. Just a wild guess.... Zen Davis = Atheist.


I too hope all CAGs are safe and I wish those injured a speedy recovery.
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']Everytime I go over a bridge the thought of a collapse always creeps into my head. Now I'm even more afraid :shock:[/quote]


I know what you mean. Every morning to get to work I have to cross over the Missouri river to get from the Northland to downtown Kansas City. I know if you were to look up the statistics it would say the odds of dying in a bridge collapses are probably minuscule but it's still scary. I hate it when traffic is heavy and I get stuck in the middle of the bridge and can feel it shake.
 
What is sad is it is going to take forever to get it back up... Im still waiting on some bridges to be rebuilt from Katrina... almost 2 years ago...
 
[quote name='Chitown021']Wow.... Just wow. Just a wild guess.... Zen Davis = Atheist.


I too hope all CAGs are safe and I wish those injured a speedy recovery.[/quote]

Not really but I thought it was amusing.
 
[quote name='Nogib']Used to go on that bridge every Wed night (later than the hour this occurred). Guess I have to find an alternate route now. -_-[/quote]

That might be the most selfish thing I've ever read on these forums.

[quote name='Zen Davis']Not really but I thought it was amusing.[/quote]

It wasn't.

And I will be praying for those affected by this tragedy.
 
updated the OP with more up to date info, the death toll was lowered to 4, but is expected to rise.

the thing i find most disturbing is tony snow saying that an inspection 2 years ago yielded a score of 50/120. i dont know how the rating system works exactly, but where i come from thats a big ol' F.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Not really but I thought it was amusing.[/quote]

It wasn't. it makes a mockery of a tragedy AND a group of people who have the audacity to believe something you don't.
 
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