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So was just watching the news and they were covering the insane deals car dealerships are having to give right now to get people to buy cars. The standard was about 40% off sticker price however there were other more insane deals including a few dealerships that were actually doing a deal where if you bought a fully loaded truck you got one free and there was also a buy 1 get 1 on the Ford Focus.

This makes me seriously tempted to see what kind of deals I can get. We just payed off our 2000 Ford Focus last year and it was a pretty damn good vehicle. I believe they go for around $12/$13k normally so if with trade in or selling our car to someone else we could get a newer model for like $5k out of pocket.....that's mighty tempting.
 
But aren't the only ones on sell the really wasteful POSs? Hybrids & other efficient cars are still selling pretty damn well, I wouldn't expect as much of a deal
 
[quote name='Koggit']But aren't the only ones on sell the really wasteful POSs? Hybrids & other efficient cars are still selling pretty damn well, I wouldn't expect as much of a deal[/QUOTE]

The Ford Focus isnt bad at all. We have not had a problem with ours that wasnt self inflicted and the newer models get 30-35 MPG.
 
The Focus was a step down from the Escort. However, a Focus would be a good move in terms of gas mileage compared to most SUVs.

However, I would wait at least six months before buying a car from a company that might go bankrupt.

I don't really care if any one company goes bankrupt, but you might have a hard time finding replacement parts and any warranty is kaput in that case.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']The Focus was a step down from the Escort. However, a Focus would be a good move in terms of gas mileage compared to most SUVs.

However, I would wait at least six months before buying a car from a company that might go bankrupt.

I don't really care if any one company goes bankrupt, but you might have a hard time finding replacement parts and any warranty is kaput in that case.[/QUOTE]

Well I am not going to do it anyways because as I have stated here before my fiancee could loose her job and we only have about 6 months expenses saved.....so ya its a good idea to not buy a car right now ;)

Just posting because its extremely indicative of the times we are in and the automotive companies problems.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']
However, I would wait at least six months before buying a car from a company that might go bankrupt.

I don't really care if any one company goes bankrupt, but you might have a hard time finding replacement parts and any warranty is kaput in that case.[/QUOTE]

I like how the Big 3 are making their entire case around bankruptcy not being an option because they claim people won't buy cars froma bankrupt company. Dude, when people know a company is even in DANGER of going bankrupt like the Big 3 are, they won't buy from them. It's basically a self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course the Big 3 CEOs are beyond retarded and don't realize this. Consumers are already acting as if they are bankrupt; if they do go bankrupt, nothing will change on that end, and they may actually be able to restructure themselves back to profitability.
 
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[quote name='Kirin Lemon']Wow, fantastic deal on the Ford Focus. I love my 2004 Focus to death.[/QUOTE]

Ya I was pretty biased against Ford till my fiancee came along with her Focus. We have been together 4 years and she owned it 2 years before meeting me. We have had 1 big problem only that wasnt our fault.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Ya I was pretty biased against Ford till my fiancee came along with her Focus. We have been together 4 years and she owned it 2 years before meeting me. We have had 1 big problem only that wasnt our fault.[/quote]

Now if the Focus has been around for 8 years almost 9, with a good rep, then why didn't they slap on a Hybrid model like the Ford Escape has?

Surely then, one focus could get like 50-60mpg?

Anyways, if it's a 2 for 1, easy to split the cost, fantastic deal.
 
My brother just bought a 2004 Ford Expedition for around 7 thousand, they're practically giving these things away. And before you start, we haul around a lot of people and a lot of crap on a regular basis.

Ford's incompetence may know no bounds, but they still know how to make a good truck.
 
I try to like my 2000 Focus, but it's been a bitch to me- broken window motors, broken climate controls and squeaky brakes. :cry:
 
[quote name='dafoomie']My brother just bought a 2004 Ford Expedition for around 7 thousand, they're practically giving these things away. And before you start, we haul around a lot of people and a lot of crap on a regular basis.

Ford's incompetence may know no bounds, but they still know how to make a good truck.[/QUOTE]

I have zero problem with people buying trucks if they haul shit around. Unfortunately most people don't.
 
[quote name='xycury']Now if the Focus has been around for 8 years almost 9, with a good rep, then why didn't they slap on a Hybrid model like the Ford Escape has?

Surely then, one focus could get like 50-60mpg?[/quote]


putting a hybrid in the focus would raise the cost way too much. besides, a new focus with a manual transmission can easily get 45mpg. and to the OP, just to let you know, there is no way you would get anything more than about 2k for a trade in on your 2000 focus.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I have zero problem with people buying trucks if they haul shit around. Unfortunately most people don't.[/quote]
They need a big truck to haul around that huge, imaginary dick.
 
[quote name='Allnatural']They need a big truck to haul around that huge, imaginary dick.[/QUOTE]
I think you're confusing trucks with Corvettes. But people like you need to understand that a Honda Fit is simply not practical for everyone. People actually need to do shit with their vehicles other than drive to and from work.

Yeah, a Ford Excursion is a silly thing for people who at most haul around a couple kids and some groceries. Those people learned a hard lesson over the summer. The biggest culprits were actually women who felt safer riding high on the road in their great big battleship of a car, by themselves on their daily commutes.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I think you're confusing trucks with Corvettes. But people like you need to understand that a Honda Fit is simply not practical for everyone. People actually need to do shit with their vehicles other than drive to and from work.[/quote]
Actually, I couldn't care less what anyone buys. As a practical matter I'll probably never buy a truck, but if you want one or, more importantly, need one, then more power to you. However, when I see some douche bag driving an F-150 with a bed in pristine shape because he's never so much as thrown a bag of mulch in it, I have to wonder what the point is. *shrug*


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heh, responded before your edit. ;)
 
I don't believe in using the preview button.

I think Hummer is going to corner that market with their new pickup version. If you can afford the gas, you can afford the Hummer. And with the way they designed it, it looks so nice that you'd never dream of actually putting something in the bed.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']The biggest culprits were actually women who felt safer riding high on the road in their great big battleship of a car, by themselves on their daily commutes.[/QUOTE]

Why just women?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Why just women?[/QUOTE]

Because its true. Men have been using big trucks and other vehicles as penis replacers for year now women in the last 10 years started buying them talking about how it makes them feel big and safe.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']I have zero problem with people buying trucks if they haul shit around. Unfortunately most people don't.[/quote]

[quote name='Allnatural']They need a big truck to haul around that huge, imaginary dick.[/quote]


Or you could be extremely tall like me and can't fit into most economy vehicles. My sister used to have a Sentra and an Elentra and I couldn't get into either comfortably. The only cars I have had were a Thunderbird and a Continental which had poor gas mileage anyway.

That being said, I do haul stuff with my F-150 as needed and I got a base model with no frills.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Or you could be extremely tall like me and can't fit into most economy vehicles. My sister used to have a Sentra and an Elentra and I couldn't get into either comfortably. The only cars I have had were a Thunderbird and a Continental which had poor gas mileage anyway.

That being said, I do haul stuff with my F-150 as needed and I got a base model with no frills.[/quote]

You could always get your shins removed like:

koh_DeathPicksCotton_gr1f.jpg
 
[quote name='MrFixit66']putting a hybrid in the focus would raise the cost way too much. besides, a new focus with a manual transmission can easily get 45mpg. and to the OP, just to let you know, there is no way you would get anything more than about 2k for a trade in on your 2000 focus.[/quote]

Current pricing on a Civic hybrid is only 22K-23K.

I don't think a Focus, coming in around 11K is going to raise it that much.

I would guess a system like that would be about 5k-6k in price. 17K is not that too much to ask for.

And I do drive a manual, but not everyone.

Just stating, that if people were driving monster SUVs going for >20K then why not slap on in a Focus and proclaim to the world that this thing is getting 70mpg... still costing less than say their Ford Escape Hybrid.


If we look to Europe, they have small cars, and if we look to Japan, they too have small cars, just because we have the space to hold a couple Hummers on the road, doesn't mean we need to.

I hate trucks and single rider suvs. They serve a purpose that they aren't actually using.

I'm almost wishing that gas stayed at $4 just to push the SUVs in the ground and realize that a 20ish MPG is outdated and rediculous.

This is america, and I'm sure I'd be embarrassed if I cared more, but we should have innovated, and made the future of cars, but we're really about 10 years behind any other car manufacture and it's pathetic.

If I had someone to go in on the car, split the costs, I'd probably pick up a Focus or similar car.... when my Geo finally decides to take it's big nap in another 5 years.
 
[quote name='Hex']I've been slobbering over a Mazda3, think they'd let me have one on the cheapz?[/QUOTE]

It's a great car. I bought a 2008 last November. Didn't get much of a deal as it was right after the 2007 had all sold out everywhere around here, and I couldn't wait as my prior car was dying.
 
[quote name='Hex']How much? :[[/QUOTE]

$17,500 before trade in. You can do much better if you wait until spring/summer when they're starting to feel pressure to get rid of the 2009 models. There's not much haggling room the first few months the new years models come out and the previous years are sold out so it was terrible timing.

But I can't complain as I love the car and the payments are well within my budget, and with the time of the transmission starting to go in my old car I had little choice as I wanted to get it traded in before it went out.
 
The 2010 Mazda 3 will be a new body style, so they'll want to get the '09s off the lot even more come spring/summer of next year.
 
^Mazda's are one of the nicer look cars these days I have to say.

It's funny really, because I think the last thing most consumers want is ONE car especially if it's a crappy American one.
 
So, where exactly can I find these dealerships with the buy one get one free deals? Lease on my current car will be expiring in about 3 months, wouldn't mind getting in on this deal.
 
Man you guys are the reason the auto industry doesnt change. The Mazda when I looked it up was listed at about 25 MPG......who gives a flying shit how a car looks whenever it gets less gas mileage for more money.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Man you guys are the reason the auto industry doesnt change. The Mazda when I looked it up was listed at about 25 MPG......who gives a flying shit how a car looks whenever it gets less gas mileage for more money.[/quote]

:lol: :lol:

yeah, it looks good but who cares one needs to fill up every few days...

I wouldn't mind a Light truck.. just something small to haul things, something with 4 wheel drive, but then I don't want to spend a whole lot either.
 
[quote name='xycury']:lol: :lol:

yeah, it looks good but who cares one needs to fill up every few days...

I wouldn't mind a Light truck.. just something small to haul things, something with 4 wheel drive, but then I don't want to spend a whole lot either.[/QUOTE]

Trucks atleast can haul things....crap like that Mazda is just a vehicle to get you too and from places. Seriously whats the point in spending $5-$7k more then the Focus or certain other cars for a vehicle with 5-7mpg less? Its fucking retarded.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Trucks atleast can haul things....crap like that Mazda is just a vehicle to get you too and from places. Seriously whats the point in spending $5-$7k more then the Focus or certain other cars for a vehicle with 5-7mpg less? Its fucking retarded.[/quote]

The Focus has no pussy magnet.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Trucks atleast can haul things....crap like that Mazda is just a vehicle to get you too and from places. Seriously whats the point in spending $5-$7k more then the Focus or certain other cars for a vehicle with 5-7mpg less? Its fucking retarded.[/QUOTE]

I cared about looks and performance and features and just didn't like the Focus. I also do ok for myself so the extra cost wasn't much of a concern financially. The gas mileage is pretty good. 22 City, 29-30 or so on highway. I tend to get 350-370 miles before I need to fill up, so it averages to about 25mpg for me with my combo of city and highway driving on my commutes. I probably gas up once every 2 weeks on average, so it's perfectly fine for me and about the same as the Subaru Impreza I had before it.

So in short it was a luxury I was willing to pay for. If I had a more precarious financial situation like you and your fiancee it would be a different story. But despite this being CAG, I wouldn't consider myself a cheap ass in general. I try to save money on games, but that's mainly because it's a hobby and probably the lowest on my list of hobbies now so it's not worth it to pay much for games these days since I don't play much.

I don't need a truck or SUV as I seldom need to hall anything. Just a car that I like the looks of, like the features, and find comfortable as I drive a decent amount.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']Man you guys are the reason the auto industry doesnt change. The Mazda when I looked it up was listed at about 25 MPG......who gives a flying shit how a car looks whenever it gets less gas mileage for more money.[/QUOTE]
Its not all about MPG and sticker price, its total cost of ownership. Ford loses here because they don't make terribly reliable cars.

Plus if you drive frequently its a place where you have to spend a lot of time. Ford loves making crappy interiors out of hard plastic, its just unpleasant to spend any amount of time in some of them.

There are space considerations as well. Small Japanese cars are often designed for small Japanese people. I'm not going to drop thousands of dollars on a car that I have to use every day that I loathe.

Oh, and never lease. And off lease vehicles and former rentals can be a good way to skirt the depreciation hit you take on a new car.
 
Somehow, as the stay at home husband who does all the yard work, shopping, home repair and such, I have never NEEDED a car larger than a compact.

I drive a very sporty VW GTi at the moment. There's a Gorilla Gear liner in the hatch back area. I've transported two hundred pounds of water softener salt in it, distributed between the hatch and the passenger side.

When I needed bricks for a project, I rented a truck for the day.

Anyway, I do feel bad about what's happening to the US automotive industry, but they lost me as a buyer a decade ago. Large American cars often designed for large American people who wanted a McMansion of a car. :) Couldn't resist, Dafoomie.

Lastly, I again feel bad about the loss of jobs at dealerships, but I sort of hope the dealership model goes away. I'd much prefer to buy a car direct from the factory or automaker, rather than have to haggle.
 
How many people ever need bricks for a project?

What I'm saying is for most people a compact is always more than enough, they'd never even have to rent a truck for anything.

I have a VW GTI also, and love it, but I plan on selling it soon because even that I feel is too much. I haven't needed anything larger in the three years I've lived on my own -- and the reason I'm selling it is because I've noticed I can get by just fine with bussing & biking -- the only time I ever haul more than I can carry in a single load is if I don't go the grocery store for a long time, so I'll just sell the car and grocery shop more often, buying less at a time.

Next time you're out and about, look inside each of those SUVs and see what's in it. I bet 90% of them are single occupancy without much (if any) cargo.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Oh, and never lease. And off lease vehicles and former rentals can be a good way to skirt the depreciation hit you take on a new car.[/quote]

Thisthisthis

The Mazda3 I'm looking at is going for $4,000 less than most because it was a rental.

My plan for this week is to see if I can't get this Mazda3 for $8k by trading in my Focus. It's a 2008, and has 17k miles. Either it's too good to be true or an awesome deal.
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that the Focus and Mazda 3 use about 85% of the same parts, since Mazda is owned by Ford. Same engine, same transmission. The only difference I know of for sure is chassis (the 3 is designed by Volvo) and electronics (Focus' come from Slovakia, 3 comes from Mitsubishi).

So, if a few grand is worth it to some for vanity, I guess that's your business.
 
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It's better looking and much more comfortable. The Mazda3 also accelerates better--I don't think the engines etc. are exactly the same any more with the Mazda's having some more horsepower etc. from what I dug up back then. I don't mind paying some extra for luxury there since I drive a good bit, could afford it and have steady and secure employment.

Edit: Here's a comparison of the 2009 models of each if anyone cares about the differences, mentions some differences in performance as well more HP, better HP to weight ratio etc. Of course it's still up to each person whether the difference is worth paying a bit more for.

http://www.newcars.com/ford/focus/reviews/mazda-mazda3.html

And another that just lists specs.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/pr...da3-price-comparison.php?session_code=1&aff=1
 
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[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']The Focus has no pussy magnet.[/quote]

:lol: A guy I work with has that entire conversation as his ring tone.


American car makers fail when they decide to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in crap like the Pontiac Aztec.

pontiac_aztec.jpg
 
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