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[quote name='Dead of Knight']But is it the Foaming Pipe Snake?
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It's so powerful they have to keep the ingredients in two separate containers because they're so caustic together.[/QUOTE]

Do not believe so. I will mention it to her.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']
The main issues with the house are that there's an inground pool we want to get rid of, the bushes are overgrown and need serious pruning, and it needs an exterior painting. Anyone got any estimates on how much this might cost? Obviously it will be some serious change for the painting and the pool, but we can wait on those for at least a little bit. The pruning will probably have to come first, but at least that will definitely be the cheapest, or even DIY (or hire some neighborhood teenager to do it).[/QUOTE]

Well you can always concrete in the pool and have a nice tennis court.:D

The cheap way to go (if allowed by local code) is to hit surface with a jackhammer then throw the remains and a bunch of fill dirt into the pool and level it off. If I had to guess I'd say 5-10K range, backhoes are not cheap.

Painting will cost several thousand, depending on the house you can do part or all of the prep work and painting yourself and save significantly. I painted my own house for under $500 in supplies and saved $1500+ on labor, but my house is only 1 story above ground at 960 sqft.

Congrats on the house!
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Well you can always concrete in the pool and have a nice tennis court.:D

The cheap way to go (if allowed by local code) is to hit surface with a jackhammer then throw the remains and a bunch of fill dirt into the pool and level it off. If I had to guess I'd say 5-10K range, backhoes are not cheap.

Painting will cost several thousand, depending on the house you can do part or all of the prep work and painting yourself and save significantly. I painted my own house for under $500 in supplies and saved $1500+ on labor, but my house is only 1 story above ground at 960 sqft.

Congrats on the house![/QUOTE]

The ideal thing to do with the pool for us, I think, would be to concrete it in to make a driveway and eventually a garage. We have offstreet parking, but it's small and with no garage. Would a concreted pool be able to handle the weight of a vehicle though? Btw, if we kept the pool for awhile, any idea how much it would cost us extra in insurance? It is fenced off.

Yeah, I figured we could always do the painting ourselves and save money. I don't know how much my husband would like that idea though. I'm pretty bad at detail work like that myself, I certainly would not trust myself to paint a house.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']The ideal thing to do with the pool for us, I think, would be to concrete it in to make a driveway and eventually a garage. We have offstreet parking, but it's small and with no garage. Would a concreted pool be able to handle the weight of a vehicle though? Btw, if we kept the pool for awhile, any idea how much it would cost us extra in insurance? It is fenced off.

Yeah, I figured we could always do the painting ourselves and save money. I don't know how much my husband would like that idea though. I'm pretty bad at detail work like that myself, I certainly would not trust myself to paint a house.[/QUOTE]

Well if it's not filled with water I don't see how anyone could drowned.:lol:

You might want to call up an insurance agent and ask them before you move in, my father in law pays a significant premium (20%) for his pool and it's very well fenced in. Also the basic costs of maintaining the pool with chlorine tabs, running the filters, replacing the filters, have far outweighed the basic cost of insurance for him.

I don't think the pool rim is thick enough to support a proper foundation so it might not be any cheaper than simply building a new garage, but a contractor would know far more about that.

Painting is actually pretty easy and if you look up close you might be surprised with the number of imperfections in the current paint coat. But if you want it near perfect professionals are the way to go.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'] Also the basic costs of maintaining the pool with chlorine tabs, running the filters, replacing the filters, have far outweighed the basic cost of insurance for him.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the time and maintenance costs are not worth it for us. We'll have a good bit of savings left over even after 20% down and closing costs, but I don't want to blow it all on repairs right away, which is why I was asking how much it might cost for insurance purposes. We might keep it in for a few years until we build up more savings again.
 
Wait, you don't want to have a sunken pool? Or you nuts? That's like the greatest thing in the world!
 
Pools are a huge cost to maintain and don't make as much since in places like Boston where it's cold for a big chunk of the year. I'd only want one if I was living somewhere like Phoenix where you could use it year round--and even then I'd honestly prefer not to have one as I'm not much of one for swimming and spending time in the sun anyway.
 
I climbed up on the latter (just enough to peek into the gutter. I'm not a fan of heights) and cleared out some of the gutters. Once in 4 years seems like frequently enough.

It had gotten so bad you could see grass growing in there.
 
[quote name='eldergamer']I climbed up on the latter (just enough to peek into the gutter. I'm not a fan of heights) and cleared out some of the gutters. Once in 4 years seems like frequently enough.

It had gotten so bad you could see grass growing in there.[/QUOTE]

You should be doing this minimum 2 times a year. Buy some gutter guards - they will keep a lot out. We have a company come 4 times a year to remove the gutter guards and clean out the gutters. It is really cheap and hassle-free on my end. They send out like 4 guys and they are done in about 30 minutes.
 
Do you have to worry about gutters if there are absolutely no trees around? Does other stuff accumulate? Been here two years and haven't even thought about cleaning out gutters.
 
If there are no trees around then you have little to worry about other than grit off the shingles etc. getting in there, and that stuff tends not to clog the down spouts.

So you probably don't need to worry about it. I'd just give them a look and if they're mostly clean I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Dad, I, and my Uncle (Mostly my uncle and Dad) got the power working in the garage finally so I can charge my Electric lawn mower, but we don't know if the motion light works - I'll find out tonight when I'll test it.

Otherwise, used the electric battery lawn mower and was quite surprised. It's lighter than I expected, but still noisy. I will still have to charge it in the Winter though every month so I'll have to remember that. :cry: At least I can charge it in the garage now without having to detact it and bring it inside.

I worry about how long that battery will last and if it will be expensive to replace when the time comes. Anybody else have an electric lawn mower? Any ideas?
 
[quote name='Javery']You should be doing this minimum 2 times a year. Buy some gutter guards - they will keep a lot out. We have a company come 4 times a year to remove the gutter guards and clean out the gutters. It is really cheap and hassle-free on my end. They send out like 4 guys and they are done in about 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Yeah we see TV ads constantly for Leaf Guard or some other competing gutter project. I only went up there to clean them because they finally got so bad that water was spilling over and grass was growing in them.

The only reason I don't clean them more often is that: 1. I'm not a fan of heights and I'm lazy. 2. I'm too cheap to pay someone else to do it.
 
It is a crappy job but if your gutters aren't working properly you could have a bunch of problems with the house like soil erosion around the foundation, seepage into your attic depending on where the water is being redirected from the overgrown gutters, mold/mud accumulation on the sides of your house from the water dripping down the sides and worst of all depending on how much it rains and where it all settles you could get bugs and insects living around your foundation and maybe working their way into the house.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Pools are a huge cost to maintain and don't make as much since in places like Boston where it's cold for a big chunk of the year. I'd only want one if I was living somewhere like Phoenix where you could use it year round[/QUOTE]

This. Not sure why anyone would want one in New England. I like swimming but it's not worth having YOUR OWN when it's only usable 3 months of the year at the very most.

And yeah, a house is a money sink, but at least it's OURS (well, 20% of it and counting). I'd rather have something I at least partially own than throwing money at some property management company that doesn't give a shit. Especially when the mortgage is costing less than rent for something with half the space.

Inspections on Saturday. Maybe they'll find something that'll lower the price. :lol:
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']And yeah, a house is a money sink, but at least it's OURS (well, 20% of it and counting). I'd rather have something I at least partially own than throwing money at some property management company that doesn't give a shit. Especially when the mortgage is costing less than rent for something with half the space.[/QUOTE]

This is why owning is so much better than renting. Unless there is a substantial month-to-month savings renting v. buying you are definitely better off long-term to buy a house. Imagine how much better (and freer) your life would be without having to make a large payment every month towards your house when it is finally paid off. If you are renting forever are you also planning to never retire?
 
I dont know I think I am going to disagree with that one. I think a house is a money sink and should only be bought if you want to own something. I think that end of the day even if you pay more for rent its cheaper then a home. I mean we have already dealt with an $8,000 basement fix, the dogs are trashing the carpet and now im nervous the floor board in the kitchen is warping(wife thinks im being paranoid though). There is just always an expense/fix and I miss being able to just call the maintenance guy.

Ah well, at least my wife is happy ;)
 
But rent is always going to go up with inflation. Mortgage payments are constant. Whatever you pay per month today shouldn't seem like that much in 15 years and once you pay off the house it is yours, otherwise you'd have to work forever. Sure, there are unforeseen expenses but I think the good outweighs the bad long-term.
 
[quote name='Javery']But rent is always going to go up with inflation. Mortgage payments are constant. Whatever you pay per month today shouldn't seem like that much in 15 years and once you pay off the house it is yours, otherwise you'd have to work forever. Sure, there are unforeseen expenses but I think the good outweighs the bad long-term.[/QUOTE]

Our old apartment cost is $700 a month rent and it was one of the nicer/more expensive places in the area and covered quite a few utilities(we were probally paying about $60-$100 less a month in utilities). So over a year it cost us $8,400 in rent. It just cost us $8,100 to fix the basement.....so about a years rent at our old place! In 6 years we will have paid off the house which will make things cheaper then, but the second there is an issue with anything in the house its hella expensive.

Do not get me wrong I think a house ultimately is slightly cheaper or at least breaks even if you do proper research when buying a home and do not buy a house that will need tons of work every few years(ours has a new roof, new water heater, new windows and new furnace/central ac all within 3-5 years). However I do not think its as cheap as some people paint it to be. Rent may be slightly more expensive but its nice to never worry about anything vs being paranoid that everything is going to cost you money. And again all that is assuming you dont have constant issues with your house, if something big(knocks on wood)did happen like the floor board that cost $8,000 again then we should have just stayed renting.
 
The fact that you are paying off your house in 6 years means we are comparing apples to oranges. An $8,000 expense on the house is just a drop in the bucket to me over the life of my stupid mortgage - when I moved 7 years ago I was paying $1,500 per month for the shittiest one bedroom apartment you could imagine (no A/C, very noisy, appliances from the 60s, etc.) and when I moved into my house which is in great shape I didn't even double my monthly payments for like 5x the space. Maybe it would make sense to rent depending on location and finances?
 
When you are renting you are basically throwing money in the garbage. When you own, even though you are paying out that money each month, it is going towards something you can later sell to someone else. Even if you only break even when you sell your house, living free or close to it seems like a pretty good deal.
 
[quote name='Javery']The fact that you are paying off your house in 6 years means we are comparing apples to oranges. An $8,000 expense on the house is just a drop in the bucket to me over the life of my stupid mortgage - when I moved 7 years ago I was paying $1,500 per month for the shittiest one bedroom apartment you could imagine (no A/C, very noisy, appliances from the 60s, etc.) and when I moved into my house which is in great shape I didn't even double my monthly payments for like 5x the space. Maybe it would make sense to rent depending on location and finances?[/QUOTE]

Yes but you are in NJ which is a hella expensive area. The whole NJ/NY area is known for expensive real estate and expensive apartments. It may make more sense there by far, but I imagine in the rest of the nation it breaks pretty even or goes slightly one way or the other based on the house you buy and the deal you get.

Here again my mortgage is for $400(we pay about $680 to pay the house off in 6 years though) a month where as my rent was $700. Utilities cost us around $100 more a month here so that means there is a $200 difference. Living in the house saves us $2,400 a year, but since we just had the basement problem that negates that for the next 3 or so years. Once we pay the house off all we will have to pay is the insurance and property tax so probably like $100-$150 a month and the savings becomes even bigger. Even if we face another big problem or two the house is cheaper, but only because we bought a pretty decent house. If we bought for love like many people do then we may have had a lot more big head aches and broke even.

Like I said I still think buying a house is a little cheaper in the long run IF you buy the right house and IF you pay your mortage the way we do. I was just saying its not always the cheapest route and that you cant deny apartment ownership is much less stressful.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']When you are renting you are basically throwing money in the garbage. When you own, even though you are paying out that money each month, it is going towards something you can later sell to someone else. Even if you only break even when you sell your house, living free or close to it seems like a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]

/nod agreed. As I said no matter what we should at least break even but realistically even if we sell the house for a third less then we bought it for we should still come out ahead. As I said though we are also paying FAR less interest then most people because of when we bought and the fact that we are paying a 15 year loan off in 6 years.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']When you are renting you are basically throwing money in the garbage. When you own, even though you are paying out that money each month, it is going towards something you can later sell to someone else. Even if you only break even when you sell your house, living free or close to it seems like a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]

This is how I've always looked at it. Plus, even if you never sell, at some point the house will be paid so no more expense.

[quote name='MSI Magus']Here again my mortgage is for $400(we pay about $680 to pay the house off in 6 years though) a month where as my rent was $700. [/QUOTE]

Holy. Shit. I am so jealous - I bet your house is 2x the size of mine too, right??? Your mortgage is less than a car payment! God dammit I wish I could move. I love where I am but it is out of control.
 
Heh our house costs less then your car payments. Thats funny. Though since our car is paid off too I guess that means our car costs us less a month then the water you drink!

As for size, Nah your house is probably bigger. Ours is 3,200 foot lot with the house itself being 968 sqft. Its a 3 bedroom but each of the bedrooms is pretty damn small. Tiny backyard, no real front yard but we do have a garage.

Her grandparents badly needed to get out of the house and we knew they took care of it. We figured we were paying $700 a month for rent and thinking about moving anyways. Buying the place let us pay basically the same amount every month but own it in 6 years. If the basement had not went south so fast we would have made a huge profit(over living in the apartment)even if we sold the house at a significant loss. Even with it though we should come out ahead by a good amount if no other major major issues come up and the market stays the same(or gets better....hahaha!) That is also assuming a 6 year sell. I mean we may end up living here for 10-15 years even though we dont love the area and saving some serious dough since we wont pay any rent/mortgage.
 
Well, not my car payments (since I don't have any) but definitely someone's! Your house is actually smaller than mine (we have about 1,300 sqft. plus basement and walk-up attic and the lot size is about 6,000 sqft.). Still, it is insane to me that you are paying so little for your primary residence. To put it in perspective, it seems like you are planning to spend about $50,000 over the next 6 years to pay it off - that would cover me for about a year and a half. Ugh.
 
I have a 1275 sq ft house (built in 2000), plus full basement, and a 2 1/2 car garage. The lot is .25 of an acre, or 10,890 sqft. Mortgage is $474 a month (taxes are roughly $375) a month. Got the house as a foreclosure for 126k (40k down), neighbor on one side is assessed at 226k and on the other is 230k. I feel terrible for people that bought between 2004-2007, as home prices tanked after that.
 
[quote name='Javery']Well, not my car payments (since I don't have any) but definitely someone's! Your house is actually smaller than mine (we have about 1,300 sqft. plus basement and walk-up attic and the lot size is about 6,000 sqft.). Still, it is insane to me that you are paying so little for your primary residence. To put it in perspective, it seems like you are planning to spend about $50,000 over the next 6 years to pay it off - that would cover me for about a year and a half. Ugh.[/QUOTE]

Yep thats the plan. Around $50-$60k for the house(bought it for about $38 before loan). Our hope is that we can pay the house off before our car breaks down(or slightly after)and then just roll the savings of not paying a mortgage in to a car loan and paying off student loans which come due in another 2-3 years. Sigh...there is always a new bill to pay ;(
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I have a 1275 sq ft house (built in 2000), plus full basement, and a 2 1/2 car garage. The lot is .25 of an acre, or 10,890 sqft. Mortgage is $474 a month (taxes are roughly $375) a month. Got the house as a foreclosure for 126k (40k down), neighbor on one side is assessed at 226k and on the other is 230k. I feel terrible for people that bought between 2004-2007, as home prices tanked after that.[/QUOTE]

Where are you? Sounds like we have similar sized houses. I have a detached 2 car garage (that doesn't actually work as a garage because it is too small) and a basement with 6' ceilings (so I have to duck) and I am on 0.14 acres. I paid about 4x as much as you did for mine in January 2004 though (but the one good thing about my location is that my house has actually appreciated by about $100k over the last 7 years).
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I have a 1275 sq ft house (built in 2000), plus full basement, and a 2 1/2 car garage. The lot is .25 of an acre, or 10,890 sqft. Mortgage is $474 a month (taxes are roughly $375) a month. Got the house as a foreclosure for 126k (40k down), neighbor on one side is assessed at 226k and on the other is 230k. I feel terrible for people that bought between 2004-2007, as home prices tanked after that.[/QUOTE]

I do and I dont. If they did a little reading they could have figured out the housing market bubble was going to pop. I mean a lot of people predicted it. If you bought at a high I feel a little bad for you, but at the same time a little like you should have known better.

I feel worse for the people who bought years and years ago and just got stuck in a bad housing market. Like my wifes grandparents. I mean they had owned this home for almost 50 years and just had the bad luck of needing to get out of it in this market.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']When you are renting you are basically throwing money in the garbage. When you own, even though you are paying out that money each month, it is going towards something you can later sell to someone else. Even if you only break even when you sell your house, living free or close to it seems like a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, there's really no reason not to buy a house if you have the down payment saved up and are ready to settle down.

Unfortunately, I'm years away from settling down and don't want to buy a house that I may only be in for a few years since the housing market is still so bad and there's too much risk in losing money if I have to sell in a couple years.
 
Went from a 800 sq ft condo to a new 2300 sq ft townhouse for about 325K(+1200sq ft or so worth of basement, which will eventually get partially finished) in 2009. 4x the space was definitely nice, since 800 was pretty cramped.
Thought we got a pretty good deal on it, and only had to put the down payment of 10% with closing being covered by builder since we went with their mortgage. Year later we refinanced with someone else and appraisal came in 10% higher, so got to drop PMI. Haven't really paid attention to house value since then, since planning on staying here for at least 10 years.
 
You living in an expensive area too Pooky? It just boggles my mind how much you guys are paying for homes where you live. Around here $300k would get you a giant house in the woods, a condo with several rooms and several times the size, a pool on the roof and the most godly view you could imagine or a giant home upon acres and acres of land. It just seems you guys are paying SOOOOO freaking much where you live.
 
It's just the nature of living in a big city, and some are worse than others.

Of course, people in big cities tend to make more than those in lower cost of living areas as well, so it at least partly balances out.

I'll always be a big city guy, even though my field is one that doesn't tend to pay much more in cities, as I grew up in rural area and hated it. And didn't much care for the suburbs I lived in for most of grad school either. I like the hustle and bustle of a big city and having everything I want nearby, so I don't mind paying more to live the lifestyle that I enjoy.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']You living in an expensive area too Pooky? It just boggles my mind how much you guys are paying for homes where you live. Around here $300k would get you a giant house in the woods, a condo with several rooms and several times the size, a pool on the roof and the most godly view you could imagine or a giant home upon acres and acres of land. It just seems you guys are paying SOOOOO freaking much where you live.[/QUOTE]

I would go mental in the woods all by myself with all that land. I also hate strip malls, I hate generic franchised restaurants, I love pizza and I don't want to drive more than 5 minutes to get to the food store or something. NYC area really does suit me (even though it is a bit cramped). That said, I do agree that the cost of living is completely disproportionate for what you get. I think double the cost might be fair but 4 and 5 times? It's nuts.
 
Yeah, NYC is one area I'd never live in. The Bay area is another. Some places are just too expensive as there are plenty of other big cities that offer much of the same things for less money. Though I know you're more or less stuck their since all your family is around there etc.
 
[quote name='Javery']I would go mental in the woods all by myself with all that land. I also hate strip malls, I hate generic franchised restaurants, I love pizza and I don't want to drive more than 5 minutes to get to the food store or something. NYC area really does suit me (even though it is a bit cramped). That said, I do agree that the cost of living is completely disproportionate for what you get. I think double the cost might be fair but 4 and 5 times? It's nuts.[/QUOTE]

This is why I like living in the areas I like living. I want to live close to a store, I want to be able to find ethnic food(my wife and I LOOOOOVE Korean and good Sushi)and I want access to culture. However I dont want to be overcrowded or have to over pay all the damn time. Living in a city like Ann Arbor or Toledo makes this perfect. Its a big enough city to have all those things, but not so big that you sacrifice nature or affordability.

Even if we got a job someplace like NYC, NJ or LA I think we would just commute the 30-60 mins to live someplace affordable and gorgeous.
 
Yeah, it's just lifestyle preference. The type of cultural option, entertainment options, dining options etc. of a smaller cities like Toledo just don't hold a candle to what you get in major cities. But they're good enough for some people.

And I like living in the city as I hate commuting (just wasted time every day) and like having lots of things I can just walk to in terms of bars, restaurants etc. Even better if I'm walking distance to the subway and can thus get lots of places without driving. Great for being able to go out without having to worry about parking, finding a DD if I want to go drinking etc.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']You living in an expensive area too Pooky? It just boggles my mind how much you guys are paying for homes where you live. Around here $300k would get you a giant house in the woods, a condo with several rooms and several times the size, a pool on the roof and the most godly view you could imagine or a giant home upon acres and acres of land. It just seems you guys are paying SOOOOO freaking much where you live.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say its too expensive. It's about 45 mins outside of Philly, not that I especially love Philly but its not bad for events. There's a premium for being on a golf course. I don't golf (yet ), but the view is definitely nice.

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[quote name='Pookymeister']I wouldn't say its too expensive. It's about 45 mins outside of Philly, not that I especially love Philly but its not bad for events. There's a premium for being on a golf course. I don't golf (yet ), but the view is definitely nice.

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OOOO id not consider the golf course a plus what so ever! But to each their own! The view though is indeed gorgeous.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']OOOO id not consider the golf course a plus what so ever! But to each their own! The view though is indeed gorgeous.[/QUOTE]

It's a private course, and the layout of the hole where we bought(yes, i made sure before buying) makes it so it would be incredibly unlikely that an errant ball would make its way into my house. They would have to have a Happy Gilmore swing with bad aim from the tee to hit it. After the first shot, it bends in another direction so it would have to be close to a 90 degree bad shot to hit at that point. So far so good, at least :lol:
 
I am just a trees and water kind of guy. Golf Courses are kind of the antithesis since we destroy nature to create them and then continue destroying nature with the massive amounts of water they consume to keep green ;(
 
Guys, you gotta remember MSI Magus lives in fucking TOLEDO. Yes, not just Ohio, but Toledo. The home values there are much lower than a lot of the country because no person in their right mind would live there unless your whole family is from there.

We could have gotten a brand new home in Ohio with about the same square footage as the 1920s house we're getting in Massachusetts for about half the price. And that is in Columbus, one of the more "desirable" areas of the state. My parents got a brand new 2900 square foot house there for like $15k more than what we are paying for a bit over half the space. On a fucking house built 90 years ago.

Inspections are tomorrow. Yes, we got 2 inspectors. We would rather pay $300 more for a second inspector (different company) than get a shitty house that costs 1000x more than an inspector.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Guys, you gotta remember MSI Magus lives in fucking TOLEDO. Yes, not just Ohio, but Toledo. The home values there are much lower than a lot of the country because no person in their right mind would live there unless your whole family is from there.

We could have gotten a brand new home in Ohio with about the same square footage as the 1920s house we're getting in Massachusetts for about half the price. And that is in Columbus, one of the more "desirable" areas of the state. My parents got a brand new 2900 square foot house there for like $15k more than what we are paying for a bit over half the space. On a fucking house built 90 years ago.

Inspections are tomorrow. Yes, we got 2 inspectors. We would rather pay $300 more for a second inspector (different company) than get a shitty house that costs 1000x more than an inspector.[/QUOTE]

I swear to god I thought Toledo was in Canada.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Guys, you gotta remember MSI Magus lives in fucking TOLEDO. Yes, not just Ohio, but Toledo. The home values there are much lower than a lot of the country because no person in their right mind would live there unless your whole family is from there.

We could have gotten a brand new home in Ohio with about the same square footage as the 1920s house we're getting in Massachusetts for about half the price. And that is in Columbus, one of the more "desirable" areas of the state. My parents got a brand new 2900 square foot house there for like $15k more than what we are paying for a bit over half the space. On a fucking house built 90 years ago.

Inspections are tomorrow. Yes, we got 2 inspectors. We would rather pay $300 more for a second inspector (different company) than get a shitty house that costs 1000x more than an inspector.[/QUOTE]

Toledo is actually being built up a lot. Its still a pretty butthole place and we would rather move to Maine or Massachusetts as iv said before, however its being built up a lot. A Chinese company just bought a big strip of land on the Marina and plans on putting a bunch of business in there, part of downtown is being renovated with parks and retirement homes and then of course there is the Casino.
 
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