[quote name='yukine']Pretty sure according to Cheapy that we're allowed to discuss pirating stuff, we just can't provide links on where to obtain anything.
So you can have a mod chip discussion but you can't provide a link to where to buy one. Although I think most mods just automatically up and delete/lock a thread that has anything to do with piracy. Even homebrew threads get shit-canned for having a piracy association.[/quote]I've asked a Mod about this, and got an "I don't know": what about ROM translations?
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']I'm sure Linkin did what he thought was right.[/quote]
Did you even read Slim's post? There was nothing inflammatory about it, and Linkin is known to have his love of HD-DVD interfere on previous occasions.
Which is why the idea of him doing 'what he thought was right' is a problem.
[quote name='Rocko']Did you even read Slim's post? There was nothing inflammatory about it, and Linkin is known to have his love of HD-DVD interfere on previous occasions.
Which is why the idea of him doing 'what he thought was right' is a problem.[/quote]
I really doubt Linkin would just decide to give him an infraction because of "his love for HD-DVD" Linkin wouldn't let his bias interfere with his job as a mod. If he has in the past (as you claim) I'd like to see some proof of that. In any case it's not up to us, it's up to Cheapy if Linkin did the right thing on that call or not. Linkin is just human dude so if he made a mistake it's not a huge deal, we all make mistakes but I am sure Linkin did what he thought was right at that current time and place.
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']I really doubt Linkin would just decide to give him an infraction because of "his love for HD-DVD" Linkin wouldn't let his bias interfere with his job as a mod. If he has in the past (as you claim) I'd like to see some proof of that.[/quote]
Apparently you weren't around when there was some deal on all HD media at some online store, and he refused to add Blu-Ray deals to the OP or even mention Blu-Ray was included, and accused (I believe it was dallow) of trying to start a format war by wanting Blu-Ray included as well.
I have no idea if that thread is still around, and if it is, if the posts are still intact.
That was absolutely ridiculous. dallow came in there and not once bashed HD-DVD, and LinkinPrime got on the defensive and acted like dallow was trying to start an argument about the formats. I didn't support Linkin as a mod in the first place, and I would honestly support his ousting at this point. A mod should really know better.
Wow people get that fired up about the formats? I have never seen that side of him and the only way I really knew about him is that he accidentally deleted Xecutioner's FAQ/General Questions thread which was something I had used a lot.
I didn't even once mention any formats in my post. But apparently, "Savings about 2% isn't much of a deal considering the circumstances" is trolling and trying to start a format war.
And the irony is I checked the thread out hoping to find some sweet deals for my HD-DVD player (I didn't even own a Blu-Ray player at the time...but I have had my PS3 for about 26 hours now and the only thing I have for it is LOST Season 3).
Pfft, console and format wars? My room is like ing Switzerland, I think I might even have a Betamax tape floating around somewhere (for some reason my girlfriend had to submit her thesis on Betamax. Why? NFC).
[quote name='Silent Assassin120']I really doubt Linkin would just decide to give him an infraction because of "his love for HD-DVD" Linkin wouldn't let his bias interfere with his job as a mod. If he has in the past (as you claim) I'd like to see some proof of that. In any case it's not up to us, it's up to Cheapy if Linkin did the right thing on that call or not. Linkin is just human dude so if he made a mistake it's not a huge deal, we all make mistakes but I am sure Linkin did what he thought was right at that current time and place.
Have a nice day! [/QUOTE]
Who are you, and what the have you done with Silent?
[quote name='prmononoke']That was absolutely ridiculous. dallow came in there and not once bashed HD-DVD, and LinkinPrime got on the defensive and acted like dallow was trying to start an argument about the formats. I didn't support Linkin as a mod in the first place, and I would honestly support his ousting at this point. A mod should really know better.[/QUOTE]
LP has been ridiculous for awhile now. The way he treated the GGT annoyed me quite a bit.
[quote name='gareman']What I don't get, in particular--the target clearance/"trade" postings is, why is "trading/request" the only thing being targeted?
Shouldn't someone get a warning for:
"oh folklore is sub-15 is this game good/worth it?"
(game discussion)
"Has anyone seen title X at X target?"
(deal request/ regional)
"I picked up X and y for xx.xx! at target tonite. I can't believe they had this on clearance, I never find the titles listed on this thread"
(shopping discussion/bragging)
etc.
All I am saying if someone can't find something listed on the Target thread or can find a ton its not off subject to request/supply someone with information. Is it about a clearance game and is about target? YES. Its not off subject.
I know people are going to say, "well the point of the thread is to list target finds." That is BS because I would be willing to bet 95% of the post on that thread is:
"I got this game"
"Yea I saw that price too"
"X title is clearance but still over MSRP"
"Is that game with xx.xx dollars fun."
"Man I can't find this"
and on and on.
This system would make sense if it was a website (if we were members than sent deals to mods and were posted on a page), but this is a "FORUM'. Its like a conversation its going to get a little off subject, people are going to mention and respond to things people say, and people are going to make jokes etc.[/QUOTE]
This. It's pretty much true-- I read through the Target clearance thread since I maintain the list and it is so bloated with extraneous discussion that really adds nothing to the topic at hand. Many people don't want to add the location where they found the item-- which is fine-- but after a while all of the confirmation of the item's price become absolutely pointless. It doesn't take twenty posts to determine that The Simpsons Game is, indeed, on clearance for 24.98. Not to mention the many posts that simply say, "I bought this game today."
Also, the fact that adding in at the end of their post, which the beginning of which is considered on topic and post worthy, that they have an extra game for anyone looking for it, is consider an infraction seems odd to me. I understand that we want to keep the topic uncluttered (but as the post quoted above points out, for a truly uncluttered topic, people shouldn't be asking whether or not a game is good or not and etc.) but it seems fairly harmless if people are adding a quick blurb to their already existing post.
Ah, well. A system like this can only benefit us, especially if it is tweaked to perfection. Good luck to the moderators using it-- hope it helps you guys!
Just a note that I'm reading every post in this thread and will take all your suggestions/critiques into account while we figure out how to make this system work best (or at all) for the community.
I've asked the mods to try to refrain from posting here because I think the conversation is getting derailed by bickering between a few individuals.
The infraction system does need to be reworked, if not taken out all together. The big issue with this is mods not agreeing with something, so they give out infractions. coughLinkinPrimecough. They don't have to agree with what is said, but there should be no infractions given out because a mod diasgrees.
Slim Gatsby's incident is a prime example of this. LinkinPrime should be demodded. If anything bad about HD DVD, which IS a dead format, or Xbox 360 is said, he gets all defensive, acts sarcastically, and will give out infractions because he has fanboy tendencies. Again, LinkinPrime should be demodded. He makes a good poster, and keeps the info flowing in the 360 forum, but as a mod he is horrible.
[quote name='anomynous']The infraction system does need to be reworked, if not taken out all together. The big issue with this is mods not agreeing with something, so they give out infractions. coughLinkinPrimecough. They don't have to agree with what is said, but there should be no infractions given out because a mod diasgrees.
Slim Gatsby's incident is a prime example of this. LinkinPrime should be demodded. If anything bad about HD DVD, which IS a dead format, or Xbox 360 is said, he gets all defensive, acts sarcastically, and will give out infractions because he has fanboy tendencies. Again, LinkinPrime should be demodded. He makes a good poster, and keeps the info flowing in the 360 forum, but as a mod he is horrible.[/QUOTE]
If by any chance you get an infraction (not a warning, but an actual point) and you feel that it's unfair or whatever.. the best thing to do is always just PM cheapy. Well, unless he gives you one :lol:
But treat it like something at work.. your boss gives you shit? Go over him to someone else. That's all.
I did read that thread and yeah, I do think that was a little much. I don't think there's an infraction for that? As in points? But still, I do see where the problem is.
Apparently I got an infraction the day the system was implemented, and I only just noticed the infraction system even existed because someone linked me to this thread. I didn't get a PM about the infraction (I realize Cheapy said he fixed this problem) and the post was deleted so I have no idea what the infraction was so I know what I "did wrong." It was over a week ago, and I sure as hell don't remember all the posts I've made in the past week. If I wasn't linked to this thread by a friend talking about something unrelated, I would have no idea about the system and wouldn't have checked my User CP.
I don't oppose the system, but at the very least, a PM should have been sent out to EVERY USER or at least this thread should have been more prominently displayed so everyone knew the infraction system was being implemented. In fact, since this hasn't been done, it should be ASAP. Someone could get banned without even knowing what the hell happened.
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Apparently I got an infraction the day the system was implemented, and I only just noticed the infraction system even existed because someone linked me to this thread. I didn't get a PM about the infraction (I realize Cheapy said he fixed this problem) and the post was deleted so I have no idea what the infraction was so I know what I "did wrong." It was over a week ago, and I sure as hell don't remember all the posts I've made in the past week. If I wasn't linked to this thread by a friend talking about something unrelated, I would have no idea about the system and wouldn't have checked my User CP.
I don't oppose the system, but at the very least, a PM should have been sent out to EVERY USER or at least this thread should have been more prominently displayed so everyone knew the infraction system was being implemented. In fact, since this hasn't been done, it should be ASAP. Someone could get banned without even knowing what the hell happened.[/QUOTE]
Look at your own profile, doesn't it say there what the infraction was for?
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Look at your own profile, doesn't it say there what the infraction was for?[/QUOTE]
It says, "Private," probably meaning the post has been deleted, but I still have no clue what the infraction was for, seeing as it was a week ago. Even if a post has been deleted, people should still have a way to find out what post the infraction was for, so they don't do something like it again.
I think the system is a good idea, but it's obviously flawed. I hope the mods/admins actually take suggestions and concerns seriously about the system and make changes accordingly to popular demand.
[quote name='Dead of Knight']It says, "Private," probably meaning the post has been deleted, but I still have no clue what the infraction was for, seeing as it was a week ago. Even if a post has been deleted, people should still have a way to find out what post the infraction was for, so they don't do something like it again.
I think the system is a good idea, but it's obviously flawed. I hope the mods/admins actually take suggestions and concerns seriously about the system and make changes accordingly to popular demand.[/quote]
The notification PM has the full text of the post.
Yes, I am taking all feedback here seriously.
Thanks
[quote name='lilboo']If by any chance you get an infraction (not a warning, but an actual point) and you feel that it's unfair or whatever.. the best thing to do is always just PM cheapy.[/QUOTE]
You'd like to think so..
[quote name='lilboo']If by any chance you get an infraction (not a warning, but an actual point) and you feel that it's unfair or whatever.. the best thing to do is always just PM cheapy. Well, unless he gives you one :lol: But treat it like something at work.. your boss gives you shit? Go over him to someone else. That's all.
I did read that thread and yeah, I do think that was a little much. I don't think there's an infraction for that? As in points? But still, I do see where the problem is.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Apparently I got an infraction the day the system was implemented, and I only just noticed the infraction system even existed because someone linked me to this thread. I didn't get a PM about the infraction (I realize Cheapy said he fixed this problem) and the post was deleted so I have no idea what the infraction was so I know what I "did wrong." It was over a week ago, and I sure as hell don't remember all the posts I've made in the past week. If I wasn't linked to this thread by a friend talking about something unrelated, I would have no idea about the system and wouldn't have checked my User CP.
I don't oppose the system, but at the very least, a PM should have been sent out to EVERY USER or at least this thread should have been more prominently displayed so everyone knew the infraction system was being implemented. In fact, since this hasn't been done, it should be ASAP. Someone could get banned without even knowing what the hell happened.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Dead of Knight']It says, "Private," probably meaning the post has been deleted, but I still have no clue what the infraction was for, seeing as it was a week ago. Even if a post has been deleted, people should still have a way to find out what post the infraction was for, so they don't do something like it again.
I think the system is a good idea, but it's obviously flawed. I hope the mods/admins actually take suggestions and concerns seriously about the system and make changes accordingly to popular demand.[/QUOTE]
There was a bug that occurred with the PM system. Cheapy fixed it within the first day or so. I imagine that is why you didn't receive a notification about your infraction. If you would still like to know the details of your infraction, PM me and I will send you the information.
[quote name='daphatty']There was a bug that occurred with the PM system. Cheapy fixed it within the first day or so. I imagine that is why you didn't receive a notification about your infraction. If you would still like to know the details of your infraction, PM me and I will send you the information.[/QUOTE]
I got the info from Pookymeister, as he was online and available last night. I really appreciate both you and Cheapy addressing the issue.
[quote name='CheapyD']The notification PM has the full text of the post.
Yes, I am taking all feedback here seriously.
Thanks[/quote]
Cheapy, thanks for letting us know that you're keeping an eye on this. So, if you're following this thread, should bother forwarding you stuff from Linkin? Or are my posts here sufficient?
Cheapy, I saw your note asking us to keep quiet. I wanted to answer a few questions while I'm online, but if you prefer, please soft delete the entirety of this.
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Can someone do a search of jollydwarf's posts in the Wii forum only? Where I sit, nearly every post he makes there [/quote]Nope. That would be a complete waste of my time which is currently at a premium. Maybe his posts are horrible and cause web-spread disease. But I have other things that I need to do. And you clearly had an opportunity to address the problem yourself but for some reason failed to do so.
You have a problem with a post, REPORT IT!! If you fail to report a post that you came across which is problematic, I don't want to hear you bitching later on (yes, I said "bitching") that no one did anything.
[quote name='Liquid 2']What's the point of a zero point infraction?[/quote]The Zero-Point Infractions so far only cover posting in the wrong forum/thread. That was one of my numberous submissions (trust me, you guys don't want to see the orginal list I gave to Cheapy and the rest of the Mods to cull from).
The intent is for n00bs who are not yet familiar with the site and have erroneously posted something in the wrong place. In truth, its an additional step for us, we still have to move the post to the correct location. But before, the Poster would never know his post was in an incorrect placement unless he went looking for that post
I think I'm the only mod who sends PMs and/or Posts when I've had to move/edit/delete a post, letting someone know that their post required attention... even though it takes more time on my part, I do this because it helps the Poster know that there was a problem. And in my line of thinking unless you know there's a problem, you're going to repeat said action in ignorance of there being any problem at all
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For those of us who've been around for a long time and continue to still disregard the established rules of where to post because the user is either too lazy or simply prefers to play by his own rules rather than the rules which have formed over the years to better serve us ALL and keep things streamlined, the warning is given so we (the mods) can easily see who is a repeat offender and sucking up our time with their antics.
[quote name='lilboo']
This is the shit that I don't understand. Why do some of you just feel the need to act like a bunch of assholes?
All this is, is just a system mainly for the mods. I do believe that yes, some users will be immune to this, but for the people whom normally get temp banned, or have posts reported/deleted it can finally put an end to some of them.
I just don't see why everyone has to fight the system. It's really not a big deal. I also don't see why everyone has to make fun of Daphatty because "he takes his job too seriously". All forums NEED mods like Daphatty. You *NEED* people to care about the forum, and not to just have the ability to move threads and delete posts and ban people. I see nothing wrong with genuinely loving to be apart of an online forum/community. I enjoy logging into CAG everyday, checking deals, headin to different forums/sub forums and talking & complaining about various shit. Why does there have to be *so* much negativity? (LOL is that a word? If not, I'm sure some grammar nazi on the board will be more than happy to correct it!1 )
I think users should be banned for being pricks on NUMEROUS occasions.
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[quote name='crystalklear64']So is there an appeal process yet?[/quote]Same as before. Hit us up with a PM or email when you have a problem. If you've been dealt with unfairly, tell us and we'll see if we over-reacted. We do a lot of discussing of current and just recently passed issues amongst ourselves. There are times when we realize we've been too heavy handed, and times when we realize we didn't go far enough in keeping the boards nice and friendly.
[quote name='djkunai']Theoretically, I could post in the wrong forum a million times and never get a warning point.[/quote]Even though there are no points issued for X Infraction, it doesn't mean you're free and clear if you intend to be a repeat offender. If your objective is to be irritating and obnoxious out of spite or because your feelings were hurt or whatever, you're being irritating and obnoxious and that's something that gonna be dealt with because it detracts from the boards and disrupts the community.
And before anyone intentionally misreads what I mean by this, raising questions and objections here in the Feedback Forum does not fall under the Irritating and Obnoxious label I used in the above paragraph. Discussing legitimate concerns without personal bias is something that's healthy for the community. I've done it myself.
If you're mucking around in other threads behaving like a child harboring a grudge because there are rules here and you're upset that someone slapped you on the wrist for posting something you didn't have the common sense to NOT post, that's something else entirely. We all do screwball things from time to time that we later realize was something we'd have been better off if we'd never done. You, me, Cheapy, everyone. The mark of maturity and growth is accepting the reprimand and moving on. The days are too short and they go by too quickly for any of us to spend time dwelling on past mistakes.
Plenty of people offering to pick up or asking for help- is it okay now? Or if I offer will I get another warning?[/quote]You want to help? Awesome. Report the posts that are buy/sell/trade posts with the reason: This post belongs in the Official Circuit City clearance Trade Thread.That is how to help.
Kunai, I'm surprized after all the discussion about this specific issue, you're still so unclear on this.
I hope you Mod Squad guys (and gals) have better things to do than to humor the pathetic one-man/boy crusade of a user with an unhealthy obsession. You see the guy's signature during the CAG awards voting period? Issues. And as much as I'd like, I can't really take full credit for them.
As I have posted before. If these rules are to be properly handed out, then we should make a blog/digg like page. It could have confirmation pics, maps, locations. You read it daily or search for titles stores or game companies..... (like cheapy does on the front page with amazon)
The forum would still exist but not as the main source of information. This would be a place we mods gauge popularity of a deal, most views, and comments. Also members could send deals to mods, and what ever else.
We keep the forum as is....Deals become easier to find and details more "confirmed" and explained in a researched based format.
I do not want this. I just saying this if mods and cheapy are so concerned with threads getting off topic and cluttered.
[quote name='lordwow']I think most of us with grievances about the system have aired them already, and now it's just a matter of waiting for changes to be made.[/QUOTE]
That and seeing how "moderate" the moderators will be in it's implementation. I think the problem will be mostly jackasses who can't take a joke clogging up PM boxes with tattletale complaints like ,"JaCkAsScAg called me a such-and-such." We'll see, I guess.
It seems like in the first week or so of the implementation of this new system infractions were being handed out like candy. I'm wondering if since then CAGs have made the adjustment and there's been a significant drop in the pts being assessed?
ing Switzerland, I think I might even have a Betamax tape floating around somewhere (for some reason my girlfriend had to submit her thesis on Betamax. Why? NFC).
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