CAG League Sports: Madden 12 "JV League" - We Finished 3 Seasons! Thanks Everybody!!!

[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']I think doing the 1st round at 45 seconds is reasonable, but pausing between every round would get kinda tedious...and I've gotta get my picks ready too. Most people (at least ones who didn't acquire a million picks) are going to have 31 picks between each one they need to make (does anybody know if the CPU takes the full time to make their pick or picks right away?) At 30 seconds...that would be 15 minutes between picks (not accounting for teams taking less than 30 seconds). I would hope that would be enough time to get your next pick ready.

And I guess LV is definitely out, so I'll go ahead and remove his info from the OP...along with G33's, which I hadn't removed yet either. Looks like we might need to do a little "secondary shuffle" for next season with four teams unclaimed again.



As for this trade, I haven't seen any objections, so might as well OK that one too. It looks pretty even to me. I think the 3rd round pick balances any progression/regression that might separate the two.[/QUOTE]

The issue is more about trades and really it isn't that tedious just gives everyone a chance to catch up. I'm not saying we have to do it, but it would be nice to at least be prepared too if something happens with somebody no showing for a pick or something. I don't think the CPU takes the full time and by the later rounds you can probably shorten the time. Which is another reason to pause things after certain rounds, it allows you to make the adjustments in game after each round I think.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']He is a 84, which is what Cushing dropped to. I thought Robinson was a bit young to drop until I realized that Cushing did. That is a huge WTF.[/QUOTE]

Yea me to! I was like HUH? Haha I say next season we wait till everyone progresses to do trades yank! I feel bad man! I mean the age is different but I'd be willing to drop a round if ya want? I mean I don't want to but I also want to be fair! Lol Robinson went from a freaking 89 to an 84? GAHHHHH
 
keep in mind that the player management ratings could be off guys that the depth chart although u cant see it until after we progress after the draft could be very different
 
[quote name='Docb9110']Yea me to! I was like HUH? Haha I say next season we wait till everyone progresses to do trades yank! I feel bad man! I mean the age is different but I'd be willing to drop a round if ya want? I mean I don't want to but I also want to be fair! Lol Robinson went from a freaking 89 to an 84? GAHHHHH[/QUOTE]

lol, nah, no need to drop a round. If you want to call off the trade, I am fine with that, or we can move forward with it. Up to you, just let me know. :cool:


[quote name='DVO21']you son of a bitch lol ;)[/QUOTE]

lol, just had to squeeze that in there. :D
 
[quote name='Docb9110']I'm still down to do it bro! I need the help! Lol[/QUOTE]

Same here. My LBs need some help and now I don't have to waste a pick getting one. Though one of my OLBs did improve a lot thankfully.
 
[quote name='staticz']I'll take the Chiefs! I'd love to play in a league with my actual team for once :D[/QUOTE]

I look forward to our showdowns this year! :D
 
[quote name='staticz']I'll take the Chiefs! I'd love to play in a league with my actual team for once :D[/QUOTE]

lol u almost belong in here considering how bad u look this year in the offical league u seem to have fallen off big time and well ur madden game is sluggish thats for sure
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']The issue is more about trades and really it isn't that tedious just gives everyone a chance to catch up. I'm not saying we have to do it, but it would be nice to at least be prepared too if something happens with somebody no showing for a pick or something. I don't think the CPU takes the full time and by the later rounds you can probably shorten the time. Which is another reason to pause things after certain rounds, it allows you to make the adjustments in game after each round I think.[/QUOTE]

I'll do my best, but I don't want the draft to take all damn night. 10-15 minutes per round is going to be lengthy enough. And as I said, my pick is in the middle of the round (19th). So, I'm going to make my pick, start to get things ready for my next pick, and have to stop so I can pay attention to pause the draft after the round is over. Then, hope I can get my shit back together again before my turn rolls around? And I'm going to do that seven times? Guess what...that's called "tedious".

It's already been stated that picks that were traded will be paused since special measures need to be taken there. Outside of that, I don't think it's necessary...or fair to me, really. But I guess if everybody thinks it's needed, we can explore it. So far, you're the only person pushing for it.
 
well i agree with matt. i think the first 2 or 3 rounds need to be 45 second atleast just becuz though are the more important picks and things go pretty quick even then. then 4th round should be like 30 or less and then the 5 6 7 rounds can be like 15 seconds long. i can understand the pausing for guys with traded picks. and i can understand everything matt is saying. becuz he is from the offical league as well as i am. and thats how they do the draft it makes things go really smooth and work well. and out of the 2 drafts we have done over there ive never had a draft last longer than 1 hour and 15 minutes and the only reason it took so long ios becuz we had a something go wrong or it would have only been an hour.
 
[quote name='damailman2272']anyone looking to move there passing qb[/QUOTE]

I have Matt Hasselbeck I would be willing to move for the right price.
Matt Hasselbeck (B) 83ovr

Edit: lol. I just realized the irony of trading Matt Hasselbeck to the Seahawks.
 
[quote name='DVO21']well i agree with matt. i think the first 2 or 3 rounds need to be 45 second atleast just becuz though are the more important picks and things go pretty quick even then. then 4th round should be like 30 or less and then the 5 6 7 rounds can be like 15 seconds long. i can understand the pausing for guys with traded picks. and i can understand everything matt is saying. becuz he is from the offical league as well as i am. and thats how they do the draft it makes things go really smooth and work well. and out of the 2 drafts we have done over there ive never had a draft last longer than 1 hour and 15 minutes and the only reason it took so long ios becuz we had a something go wrong or it would have only been an hour.[/QUOTE]

I don't know how you think the math on this even adds up. IF that's in fact how the other league does it, it's not possible for the draft to take 1 hour and 15 minutes...UNLESS people are really speeding their picks along anyway (thus negating the need for 45 second rounds). Some numbers for you.

45 seconds X 32 teams = 1440 seconds (per round)
1440 seconds X 3 rounds = 4320 seconds
4320 seconds / 60 seconds = 72 minutes

That's 72 minutes...for 3 rounds. Now, I'll concede, there are a lot of additional factors at play. For one, we don't have 32 owners, which would naturally speed up our draft with the CPU drafting for 1/3 of the teams (assuming they draft instantly). Second, if people don't take their full 45 seconds, it speeds things up. But if people take their time, it's really going to drag things out. That also doesn't account for pausing in between rounds. I think we need a middle ground here. 45 seconds for the 1st round is a given. No problem there. Pausing during traded picks, also makes sense.

But I want to see an actual fact based argument for why so much time needs to be given for other picks (not just "the other league does it"). As stated, you're going to have 10-15 minutes between your picks to decide who your next selection will be. Obviously, it would be wise to eyeball your top 4-5 guys since chances are many of them will be taken before your turn comes. And if someone you didn't expect to be available slips through to you, snatch him up! I just feel like if you prepare properly, you should basically know who you're going to pick before your turn even comes...eliminating the need for extra time.

EDIT - I wish there was something cool to say like "lawyered!" when you break something down for somebody with numbers. I feel like I should say "statisticated!" lol :)
 
To be fair, I will say that shortening the 5,6,7 rounds to 15 seconds does bring back the overall time to a more "normal" length (around 2 hours). But it also makes those picks really frantic and probably mostly irrelevant. But maybe they're irrelevant anyway. Honestly, I'd be more in favor of stretching out the first few rounds than pausing between every round. The pausing mainly concerns me, as I said, because it's making me actively stop getting my next pick ready. Instead of not needing to watch for anything until about 27 picks later, I'd have to pay attention 10 picks later to be ready to pause, and then resume looking again with only 18 picks before me. Yeah, I'd still have to do it to change the time given for each pick, but at least it wouldn't be EVERY round. Does that make sense? IF we stretched the first 3 rounds to 45, would pausing be less necessary? Is that a reasonable compromise?
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I don't know how you think the math on this even adds up. IF that's in fact how the other league does it, it's not possible for the draft to take 1 hour and 15 minutes...UNLESS people are really speeding their picks along anyway (thus negating the need for 45 second rounds). Some numbers for you.

45 seconds X 32 teams = 1440 seconds (per round)
1440 seconds X 3 rounds = 4320 seconds
4320 seconds / 60 seconds = 72 minutes

That's 72 minutes...for 3 rounds. Now, I'll concede, there are a lot of additional factors at play. For one, we don't have 32 owners, which would naturally speed up our draft with the CPU drafting for 1/3 of the teams (assuming they draft instantly). Second, if people don't take their full 45 seconds, it speeds things up. But if people take their time, it's really going to drag things out. That also doesn't account for pausing in between rounds. I think we need a middle ground here. 45 seconds for the 1st round is a given. No problem there. Pausing during traded picks, also makes sense.

But I want to see an actual fact based argument for why so much time needs to be given for other picks (not just "the other league does it"). As stated, you're going to have 10-15 minutes between your picks to decide who your next selection will be. Obviously, it would be wise to eyeball your top 4-5 guys since chances are many of them will be taken before your turn comes. And if someone you didn't expect to be available slips through to you, snatch him up! I just feel like if you prepare properly, you should basically know who you're going to pick before your turn even comes...eliminating the need for extra time.

EDIT - I wish there was something cool to say like "lawyered!" when you break something down for somebody with numbers. I feel like I should say "statisticated!" lol :)[/QUOTE]

well becuz everyone in the other league has draft boards set up and back-up plans if the person there going for isnt there then they got backup plans layed out so when it comes there time to pick its pretty fast i mean i got a draft board set up from who i want the most to who i would settle for if i had no other choice. so my picks will be over within 5 seconds and im sure other people have it planed out as well. but if the computer doesnt take the whole 45 seconds each round it should go really quick. u can do it by the numbers if u want but i doubt every single person will use the full 45 seconds each pick that would be insane and crazy. like i got 2 very early picks i already know who i want my board is setup the guys in charge of picking the players i want have a copy of my draft order as well and we plan on being in a party together as well. if people plan for this it wont take long at all
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']To be fair, I will say that shortening the 5,6,7 rounds to 15 seconds does bring back the overall time to a more "normal" length (around 2 hours). But it also makes those picks really frantic and probably mostly irrelevant. But maybe they're irrelevant anyway. Honestly, I'd be more in favor of stretching out the first few rounds than pausing between every round. The pausing mainly concerns me, as I said, because it's making me actively stop getting my next pick ready. IF we stretched the first 3 rounds to 45, would pausing be less necessary? Is that a reasonable compromise?[/QUOTE]

ya i think 45 second inbetween picks is enough without pausing if someone has a draft board setup like expected then they should be fine. but u need about 45 seconds for the first round just becuz this is where ur best picks are gonig to come from there for if the guys u wanted to try and draft arent there u got enough time to figure out who to get now. the first 3 rounder are the most important in drafting and well u dont want to find out the hardway that its to late u know. plus after u pick it goes right to the next person so for the fast people its nothing but for others who need more time just incase. like for me i dont need the time really but im thinking of the others that might need it wouldnt want them to get screwed in the draft or upset that there draft could have gone better but didnt. alot of people havent done a draft before and might not realize how fast the guys u thought u were gonig to draft are no longer gonig to be there very quickly
 
I've done 4 drafts this year. 2 fantasy drafts (about 3 - 4 hours) and two offseason drafts (1.5 - 2 hours), they'll go a lot quicker than you think. I would think the reason you'd want longer rounds for the first three or so is to prevent someone getting stuck with a player they didn't want. I had the top 3 (at the time of my pick) on my board go to the three consecutive teams before me in the second round. We had 45 second rounds and I still couldn't tell you who I drafted.

It's up to you guys though, every league is a bit different. My only question is, am I going to get those Chiefs :D
 
[quote name='DVO21']well becuz everyone in the other league has draft boards set up and back-up plans if the person there going for isnt there then they got backup plans layed out so when it comes there time to pick its pretty fast i mean i got a draft board set up from who i want the most to who i would settle for if i had no other choice. so my picks will be over within 5 seconds and im sure other people have it planed out as well. but if the computer doesnt take the whole 45 seconds each round it should go really quick. u can do it by the numbers if u want but i doubt every single person will use the full 45 seconds each pick that would be insane and crazy. like i got 2 very early picks i already know who i want my board is setup the guys in charge of picking the players i want have a copy of my draft order as well and we plan on being in a party together as well. if people plan for this it wont take long at all[/QUOTE]

I understand your point completely. And I've done drafts before. Both a fantasy Madden one (2010) and a few baseball ones (MLB: The Show - 2009). Both times, we allotted what seemed like a fair amount of time because "most people won't take the full amount". Then, 3 hours later, people are dying for it to be over with. As long as people are fine with shortening the last 3 rounds to 15 seconds, and tacking that time onto the first 3 rounds, I'm ok with it. As I said, it probably reduces those last 3 rounds to where you're just grabbing the best available player, but people might be doing that anyway by that point.
 
It's up to you guys though, every league is a bit different. My only question is, am I going to get those Chiefs :D[/QUOTE]

As far as I'm concerened they are all yours buddy :). Enjoy.

I appreciate your offer from a few days ago, DVO, but I'm gonna go back to one league at a time. Having to play the one league, and then two games per Madden week for this league is more Madden than I want right now.

Good Luck again for Next Season Everbody!
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']It's up to you guys though, every league is a bit different. My only question is, am I going to get those Chiefs :D

As far as I'm concerened they are all yours buddy :). Enjoy.

I appreciate your offer from a few days ago, DVO, but I'm gonna go back to one league at a time. Having to play the one league, and then two games per Madden week for this league is more Madden than I want right now.

Good Luck again for Next Season Everbody![/QUOTE]

I've only had one bad season in the main league, I don't think I'm quite the right fit for this one
 
[quote name='staticz']It's up to you guys though, every league is a bit different. My only question is, am I going to get those Chiefs :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you can have the Chiefs. But first, I have to do this, I'm sorry. Remember this post?

[quote name='staticz']Have fun with the JV league, it won't survive and will probably kill this one too. The fantasy league is barely surviving, a third league isn't going to make it. Once this league empties out it will fall as well.[/QUOTE]

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MMMMMMM!!!

Ok, yeah, now you can have the Chiefs, lol :lol:
 
Oh, one thing that never got addressed. I would rather not increase the core player trade cap. The point of the limit was to force teams to be creative with their moves (as DVO did very well with his 3-team swap...kudos there, man). I'm trying to fight the urge to just let people do whatever they want so that interest doesn't fade, but I don't want things to go insane either. Hopefully the cap resetting with a brand new season plus the draft will be enough for people to shape their roster how they want.
 
[quote name='staticz']n8 - I knew that was coming.

I wholeheartedly apologize for that tirade. I definitely wasn't talking from the right location.[/QUOTE]

lol...it's cool. I was pretty heated in the other league too. I'm still glad I started this league though. I probably would have stopped playing Madden in November if I hadn't. But I say crazy shit all the time. But then again, my three favorite owners of all time are George Steinbrenner, Dana White, and Mark Cuban...so that probably says a lot, haha :)
 
Ok so just to fall in line here - my GT is staticzV2 and I'm in CST. Can play anytime after 10est without issue and an most likely schedule any other time after 5.

For my secondary team I'll take the 49ers or the Giants (DVO said they might be avail)
 
[quote name='staticz']Ok so just to fall in line here - my GT is staticzV2 and I'm in CST. Can play anytime after 10est without issue and an most likely schedule any other time after 5.

For my secondary team I'll take the 49ers or the Giants (DVO said they might be avail)[/QUOTE]

I have no idea what's up with the Giants. I think midway through the season he stopped being able to log onto CAG or something...but he said he wanted to keep playing...but a bunch of his games ended up getting simmed. It was just a messy situation. I can only assume he doesn't really care if we replace him. That would open up the Giants...and the Chargers actually. But yeah, for your secondary, you could have either the 49ers or Giants. I'd personally prefer you take the 49ers since there are two teams open in that division right now. Up to you though.
 
Ok, DVO's been campaigning hard for this league, and I am going to buy a new X-Box before the draft.

So I'll ask the Commish's, how do you guys feel about me only running one team? and no secondary? Preferably one in the NFC. Since Staticz wants the Chiefs he's more than welcome to them.

Let me know if there is a NFC team I can take, and if it's ok with everyone if i just roll with 1 team. I'll still sub if needed, I just don't want to take on two teams on as a commitment.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Ok, DVO's been campaigning hard for this league, and I am going to buy a new X-Box before the draft.

So I'll ask the Commish's, how do you guys feel about me only running one team? and no secondary? Preferably one in the NFC. Since Staticz wants the Chiefs he's more than welcome to them.

Let me know if there is a NFC team I can take, and if it's ok with everyone if i just roll with 1 team. I'll still sub if needed, I just don't want to take on two teams on as a commitment.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's fine. Having a secondary team was never mandatory. Just helpful, really. There are several members who don't have secondary teams (and never have had one). I actually don't have one right now either...but honestly, that's been extremely helpful for me with running this league, an NHL 12 league, getting CAGFC going again, and having a 10 week old baby, haha. I'd like to play more. There just really is no time, lol. Your NFC choices would be the Cardinals or the Giants (and I'm pretty sure I know which one you'll be picking).
 
Thats actually kind of a tough one, I have the Cardinals in the other league so it would be nice to get a fresh start with them, but I like playing with the Giants a lot. Hmmmm this will take a little thinking over.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Thats actually kind of a tough one, I have the Cardinals in the other league so it would be nice to get a fresh start with them, but I like playing with the Giants a lot. Hmmmm this will take a little thinking over.[/QUOTE]

The Giants have the #2 draft pick if that helps. Glad to see you are back, I was looking forward to playing you in the divisional.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Thats actually kind of a tough one, I have the Cardinals in the other league so it would be nice to get a fresh start with them, but I like playing with the Giants a lot. Hmmmm this will take a little thinking over.[/QUOTE]

I've got the niners of that makes your decision easier. ;)
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']The Giants have the #2 draft pick if that helps. Glad to see you are back, I was looking forward to playing you in the divisional.[/QUOTE]

what the giants have the second overall pick in draft lol there goes cobie ross lol
 
Ok Giants it is!

In case this was erased from the OP.

Gamertag: MurdaModeLV Available anytime after 5:00pm PST on weekdays and all times on the weekends.

Glad to be back, just gotta go drop 3 bills on a new X-Box tomorrow in time for the draft.

Don't worry DVO, I'm an Ahmad Bradshaw believer. No chance I take a RB.
 
Giants Trading Block

Giants are looking to trade "Elite" quarterback and family retard Eli Manning for a speedy quarterback and whatever else can even out the deal.
 
lol i dont want cobie ross anymore either i know hes a monster but i got leshoure for the end of games cuz he dont fumble and well murray progressed nicely so hes my future cowboys offense is good defense is horrible

well now that i think of it screw murray im going to trade him leshoure is enough for me

cowboys trading block

Demarco Murray RB overall 81 age 25 pot B
 
I don't think the other league has taken much over an hour and that is when we had to pause after every pick because we had a 15 second window. Not everyone is going to take 45 seconds, the CPU is picking quite a bit here, and by the later rounds nobody is that worried about picks.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Giants Trading Block

Giants are looking to trade "Elite" quarterback and family retard Eli Manning for a speedy quarterback and whatever else can even out the deal.[/QUOTE]

Well, this is just obligatory now, lol
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And eh, why not...
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DVO, so are the picks I'm getting from you actually yours to make or do I need the other team to help too? Also, is the league okay with him giving me the 5th along with the 2nd?
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']DVO, so are the picks I'm getting from you actually yours to make or do I need the other team to help too? Also, is the league okay with him giving me the 5th along with the 2nd?[/QUOTE]

ya bro there my teams actual picks both picks traded to u are the cowboys
 
[quote name='Docb9110']Hey Yank can you tell me what Robinson dropped to?[/QUOTE]

[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, this is just obligatory now, lol
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And eh, why not...
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I deserved it. Touche
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']DVO, so are the picks I'm getting from you actually yours to make or do I need the other team to help too? Also, is the league okay with him giving me the 5th along with the 2nd?[/QUOTE]

I think that's fine. And as previously stated, all traded picks will be paused. The other issue has been compromised.

Rounds 1-3: 45 seconds
Round 4: 30 seconds
Rounds 5-7: 15 seconds

No need to pause between every round (unless something goes haywire)
 
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