CAG League Sports: Madden 12 "JV League" - We Finished 3 Seasons! Thanks Everybody!!!

[quote name='Og whitewidow']Sorry about the flip, Ray Lewis got a little excited! It was a good game besides the point, and you did gash me quite a few times on run/pass plays.....[/QUOTE]

Haha Ray Lewis's programmed ego did a dance huh? Lol! C'mon guys let's not quit an be little girls about this. N8 you know I respect ya man but I agree with a prior comment about quitting being kind of a dick move as well. Not only did you do that but you called him out in here. I thoughts thats why we had the forums to discuss games in the first place and to air out dirty laundry? But to me in order to have the leg to stand on you can't quit because that makes me personally want to call you put on top of The showboating. Puts you in the same "boat" so to speak. I think that we all get excited and upset when we get beat and we know the game is flawed but at this point we are beating a dead horse on that issue! I am 5-9 right now! I have not once complained about programming or bitch calls but it gets tiring watching others who have decet record and ARE way Better players than me get pissed over a game so bad. In the end it is just a "shaq fuing" (don't know how to add that cool graphic) game. I play because I like the fact that I am getting better and can wait to see how my team grows with me as far as progression in the franchise.

I'm starting to get pissed simply becaus we aren't acting like men! YOU LOSE, lose like a man and if you have a problem here is The place to call them out! Let us help you in explaining what the problem may have Been as some of us have been here for 87 pages of forums and some have been here for 5-10. So either we need to have a person who kind of helps orientate new players to the league or we make it a requirement of them to read a Novel of forum discussions before playing a game. Personally I played the new bills owner his first game an we chatted on party and kid of discusse what's cool an what's kind of looked down upon. Great game and a good guy. I think before we let someone in to play a team one of us plays him outside of the league to see what Kind of player they are and if they are seeming to play decently and respectfully then we party chat during The game and kind of fill them in on stuff that's not mentioned in the OP which has been a hot issue after.

I'm tired of reading rants like this an I'll volunteer to step up and help new players acclimate to the rules and league! I WANT THIS LEAGUE TO CONTINUE. How does everyone feel about like and "orientation game?"
 
Look at it this way. I didn't have to sub. He waited till the last minute to request one, and it just as easily could have sat there until the deadline and been simmed. I'm not going to go out of my way to help somebody and then be disrespected in a game I didn't have to play. People who show no respect get no respect. That's basically how I operate. In the end, he got the win and I didn't waste any more of my time. Don't see the problem there.

lyric, I'll address you specifically since you're one of the proponents for the "showboating is instinctual" line of bullshit. Where do we draw the line? If I want to run horizontally along the goalline when I break a big play just to drag it out a little longer and rub it in, is that ok too? I don't give two shits how natural it comes to you. YOU'RE BEING A DOUCHEBAG. It's not necessary. Period.

I do agree with him not knowing about it though, and that's fine (though I didn't specifically remember at the time when that discussion took place). I actually paused the game after it happened and messaged him about it, but got no response. Like I said, in the end he got the assurance of a win in a game that would have been simmed otherwise. I doubt he has a problem with that outcome.

I'm sorry for quitting...I guess. All scores and stats counted anyway. If I could have conceded, I would have done that. It's not like I pulled the cord or anything. I was up front about it. Look, I'm obviously getting burnt out on Madden. If others are willing to step up and be more hands on, by all means, I appreciate the help. I'll just play my games, advance the league, and keep my mouth shut...except that I still can't advance us now because widow still has control of it. Maybe he wants to keep it, lol. I don't know.
 
[quote name='lyric706']Isn't quitting kind of a dickbag move as well? Especially when Widow didn't even know about the no-celebration rule? It isn't in the OP, and we can't expect everyone to know every nuance of our rule set ...[/QUOTE]

It was. But at the time I felt like I was being shown up, so it seemed justified (show respect to get respect). Honestly, I wasn't having a great night last night and I shouldn't have subbed in that game. But it didn't look like anybody else was going to, so it would have been simmed otherwise. Considering the alternative, I doubt widow is too upset with the outcome.

I do apologize for quitting though. I think it's pretty obvious I'm getting burnt out on Madden. So, if anybody wants to step up and be more hands on, by all means, I appreciate the help. I'll also add the "no showboating" bit to the OP...along with a few other "online ranked moves" that should be obvious not to do (running horizontally along the goalline being one). Nobody has done this, but with new members coming in all the time, you never know. At least that way it won't be unreasonable to expect them to know what's not allowed.

Also, I'm going to stop talking about the games. This was a sub game for God's sake. What happens to the Chargers doesn't mean anything to me. I'm just going to play my games, advance the league, and keep my mouth shut. Except right now I can't advance us because widow still has control. Maybe he wants to keep it, lol. I don't know.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']
I'm tired of reading rants like this an I'll volunteer to step up and help new players acclimate to the rules and league! I WANT THIS LEAGUE TO CONTINUE. How does everyone feel about like and "orientation game?"[/QUOTE]
It sounds like a potentially great idea, i do not like being looked down on....especially for such a small detail, in case you haven't watched the nfl it is absolutely full of showboating. As for n8rockerasu, i think you could have lightened up a bit and not quit. The word ninny comes to mind thinking of how you sanctified quitting based around a Ray Lewis celebration...you were still up a field goal at the time and you played for several minutes after the fact, before ultimately quitting after an interception in your own zone.
 
[quote name='Og whitewidow']You have control now.....you have been doing an exceptional job![/QUOTE]

LOL...I was about to tell you thanks, until I fully read the below post.

[quote name='Og whitewidow']It sounds like a potentially great idea, i do not like being looked down on....especially for such a small detail, in case you haven't watched the nfl it is absolutely full of showboating. As for n8rockerasu, i think you could have lightened up a bit and not quit. The word ninny comes to mind thinking of how you sanctified quitting based around a Ray Lewis celebration...you were still up a field goal at the time and you played for several minutes after the fact, before ultimately quitting after an interception in your own zone.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter. I wasn't having a good night and wanted to get out of the game. As I said, I would have been fine with simming it. Next time, I won't worry about it.

But yeah, thanks, lol.
 
I think everyone can relate to those days, i had to get my initial thoughts off, and i threw them out there before reading your post pertaining to quitting...
 
It's all good..everyone is a little more tense with the playoff spots becoming more and more tight too. Every win and loss is a huge deal.

I think we all are on the same page now and down to the final 2 weeks. Good luck everyone!
 
Damn, all this discussion and I just now realized that it was the Ravens that won. :(

I'm willing to help with league activities, but I'm not sure what I could do that I have the time for.
 
If anyone wants to trade teams for next season, the entire city of New Orleans is on the table. I just had the realization that I picked a pass heavy team in a game built around 300 yard runners and MLB who wear jetpacks. Not a wise move..lol. I'm sure there are many who could do much better though. I just don't want any part of the Saints anymore. I'd understand if people think it wouldn't be fair for me to change teams though. Just an idea I had.
 
Wow, can't believe someone would get so worked up over widow "moving his thumb to press the x button"

You gotta let some shit slide man, and I think TD celebrations are at the top of that list. Is your ego so damaged by Ray Lewis dancing for 3 seconds of your life?

C'mon were talking Celebrations here? Celebrations?
 
Falcons - 28
Saints - 7

Close game until the end, where the Saints had to try to pass deep to get back in it and it just got crazy. I couldn't get any run game going at all against that D.

GG n8.


[quote name='LVPatriots']Wow, can't believe someone would get so worked up over widow "moving his thumb to press the x button"

You gotta let some shit slide man, and I think TD celebrations are at the top of that list. Is your ego so damaged by Ray Lewis dancing for 3 seconds of your life?

C'mon were talking Celebrations here? Celebrations?[/QUOTE]

I think the whole quitting thing has been discussed enough. It wasn't a good move, we all agree. But I am also in the camp that there is no need to do that dive into the endzone bullshit. It doesn't have anything to do with ego - I just gave up a TD, so obviously I got beat. That is what kills an ego. When people do that crap, it is just a slap in the face. It is disrespectful. I don't let it bother me more than a second or two, but right when it happens, it does piss me off.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Wow, can't believe someone would get so worked up over widow "moving his thumb to press the x button"

You gotta let some shit slide man, and I think TD celebrations are at the top of that list. Is your ego so damaged by Ray Lewis dancing for 3 seconds of your life?

C'mon were talking Celebrations here? Celebrations?[/QUOTE]

I don't want showboating in this league. If you don't like it, you're free to leave.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']With all the shit that has happened lately, this seriously made me bust out laughing. This perfectly defines my season...and happened on the opening drive of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHjEa14-oTo&feature=youtu.be

Please, please somebody take New Orleans, lol. I think I would trade them for Miami at this point.[/QUOTE]

Wow. I know how you feel with that video. I have learned that you can't throw it on a curl unless they already turned, or are Gronk. Nope, it doesn't make any sense, but I guess that's the way it is.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']I don't want showboating in this league. If you don't like it, you're free to leave.[/QUOTE]

Good to know

What about hotdogging? thats allowed right?

Lighten up fellas, it's just a video game.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']Good to know

What about hotdogging? thats allowed right?

Lighten up fellas, it's just a video game.[/QUOTE]

You're playing someone one on one in match for a league that everyone has a lot of time invested into. It is 'just' a videogame, but you can say that about anything in life.

Like I said, it irritates me for a second when it happens, but I move on.
 
Hey, I am in two of these leagues, so I know what it means to be invested and care about ones team and whether you win or lose, but in the end I'm only here to have fun. Granted competition can be the most fun thing in the world.

I guess I'll never understand why a simple dive into the end-zone would be so bad. As pissed as you are that something happened, the other person is probably just as or more excited about it, and its fun to dance and dive and do the riverdance in the end zone. I've seen enough people mad about it to know why you guys don't want people doing it. Personally though, I don't see the harm in celebrating every now and then on a big play.

I'm in no way arguing for it, rules are rules, but while it is talked about I figured I would put in my 2 cents.
 
It is the difference between good sportsmanship or not. I believe in being a good sport and respecting your opponent. There is nothing respectful about showing up an opponent. Some of us remember when sports used to have good examples of it. It is becoming far and few between though, as the NFL is riddled with people that have no respect for a person they are competing against.

'Act like you have been there before' is basically what it comes down to.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']I guess I'll never understand why a simple dive into the end-zone would be so bad. As pissed as you are that something happened, the other person is probably just as or more excited about it, and its fun to dance and dive and do the riverdance in the end zone. I've seen enough people mad about it to know why you guys don't want people doing it. Personally though, I don't see the harm in celebrating every now and then on a big play.

I'm in no way arguing for it, rules are rules, but while it is talked about I figured I would put in my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]

I appreciate your perspective, and I'll address it one last time since you weren't here the last time it was brought up. The problem is, there's no such thing as "every now and then on a big play". I know the other league has some rules where things are ok if you don't do them all the time. But personally, I don't like that because it leaves a huge gray area that everyone can interpret differently (the pulling a d-lineman off the line/shaking your LB debate comes to mind).

If it's not ok to do it the entire game, it's not ok. And in my opinion, flipping into the endzone on every single TD is obnoxious as shit. And like I've asked repeatedly, where do you draw the line? Maybe somebody thinks it's "exciting" to run along the goalline and taunt you before they score. When there's an extra motion or action that they have to do to initiate it, you have to begin to question the intent.

It's not like we're talking about banning QB scrambling, HB screens, slant routes, or some other vital part of actually PLAYING the game. Flipping into the endzone adds nothing to the experience other than rubbing your TD in your opponent's face. Obviously, it bothers some people more than others, but in those cases, why push it? If you're scoring that many TDs, you're most likely winning. You don't need to kick somebody's ass AND showboat into the endzone. If you do, don't act all shocked when they get pissed off about it and call you a douchebag.

Let's drop this issue now. As I said the last time we talked about it, if not pressing the X button when you score a TD ruins your enjoyment of the game that much, you're free to drop from the league.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']It is the difference between good sportsmanship or not. I believe in being a good sport and respecting your opponent. There is nothing respectful about showing up an opponent. Some of us remember when sports used to have good examples of it. It is becoming far and few between though, as the NFL is riddled with people that have no respect for a person they are competing against.

'Act like you have been there before' is basically what it comes down to.[/QUOTE]

Edit: This was written before I read Cag's post directly above, but I don't have anything to add. Other than that I agree we should drop the issue now.


I think you guys and I have a very different definition of the term "showing up". I don't think that dancing constitutes bragging, and I don't think that it is disrespectful.

It's only disrespectful to people who take stuff like that too personally (or too seriously). If I dance in the end zone it has zero to do with my opponent and 100% to do with wanting to see the kind of goonish dances and celebrations Madden gives these guys. If it's comical, I'd hope it would lighten my opponent up, regardless of the way I scored.

I think it comes down to what me or you think about what the celebration means.

and to me, I've never pushed that button in any way to say "hahaha I scored I win you lose"

Those dances are just another part of a great video game. I won't be using them in this league any more, but I'll definately use them whenever I play friends, cause none of my friends would care about something that has zero effect on the game.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots'] and to me, I've never pushed that button in any way to say "hahaha I scored I win you lose"[/QUOTE]

That's fine. But go play 20-30 games of ranked, and maybe you'll see it differently. The dipshits on there abuse every exploit and rub in every score they possibly can (hence where the running horizontal along the goalline example came from). When someone shake blitzes, gets a jetpack INT, then cartwheels into the endzone, it might upset you a little bit. You don't just see it as "cute dancing" after that.

[quote name='LVPatriots']Those dances are just another part of a great video game.[/QUOTE]

All right, well now I just can't take anything you say seriously, lol j/k. ;)
 
I get trying to curb abusing the game, but I don't see the need for curbing behavior. If people want to act like a prick let them act like a prick. Get the best revenge possible, beat them.

I know I'm beating a dead horse on this one, but I'd rather my opponent taunt me or do whatever as long as we can communicate with each other. If you're a decent person then I like chatting a little while we play, but honestly if you're a scumbag feel free to heckle me. I can always mute you. I'm up for anything that lets me know I'm playing another person and not the CPU.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']That's fine. But go play 20-30 games of ranked, and maybe you'll see it differently.

I've played over 100 in Madden 12 alone


[quote name='The dipshits on there abuse every exploit and rub in every score they possibly can (hence where the running horizontal along the goalline example came from).

I believe that was actually Desean Jackson of the Philadelphia Eagles doing. He did it in a real game and then passed out in the other end of the end zone. Hilarious.


[/QUOTE']All right, well now I just can't take anything you say seriously, lol j/k. ;)

It's not a great part, but its part of a great game


I freaking hate Jet Pack INT's, I hear you on that one.
 
In case anybody missed it, we've advanced to Week 16. Games are due by 2/4!

Week 15 Summary

Power Rankings
1. Atlanta Falcons
2. St. Louis Rams
3. Kansas City Chiefs
4. Green Bay Packers
5. New York Jets

Offensive Player of the Week
Arian Foster - 16 att, 225 yds, 2 TDs

Defensive Player of the Week
DeAngelo Hall - 8 tackles, 1 INT
 
Did Foster really win OPOTW over Freemen's 396 yards passing and 4 touchdowns?

DVO, were on for another one. I'll send you a PM
 
How can I be behind KC in the power rankings? I just beat them last week, have a better record, have a higher ranked offense, and I've given up nearly a thousand less yards on defense. Something's wonky with that formula.
 
Sent Colts and Redskin owners a PM Games. I believe the redskins vikes game maybe a secondary and can be simmed so G33 just waiting for you bro.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']How can I be behind KC in the power rankings? I just beat them last week, have a better record, have a higher ranked offense, and I've given up nearly a thousand less yards on defense. Something's wonky with that formula.[/QUOTE]


Maybe we've faced a different caliber of teams (i.e. my wins are against players who have higher power rankings).

I think thats a big factor.

Cardinal vs. Bengals appears to be me and Lyric's back up teams, so sim away.

Unless you wanna play Lyric? We haven't played since you left the main league.
 
Just noticed everyone in the AFC North is still alive. I think I can make the playoffs if I win out. The Bengals I believe would get in over me if they win out. Ravens and Steelers could each drop a game depending on what the Bengals and I do.
 
The Colts are a secondary would it b possible for someone to sub right now? I know it's a secondary but my schedule is hectic after this afternoon.
 
[quote name='Ultimate Matt X']Ravens, want to play tomorrow evening sometime?[/QUOTE]


I'll ask him for you later tonight Matt, if he hasn't seen this

Anyone in here interested in joining a new organized league with a Fantasy Draft once EA updates the Online Franchise Rosters? Send me a PM if so
 
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Haven't heard from G33 in a while. Anyone up for subbing his secondary tonite in like an hour? About 720 to 730 CST?

Edit: playing texans colts now with OG. Sorry guys I had to make an executive decision because I'm on a time crunch in the next few days.
 
Texans - 24
Colts - 32

In a game for the ages the Texans playoff hopes are crushed when Benson is stuffed at the 4 yard line with seconds to go! Defense was huge in this game with 2 forced fumbles from the Texans, on for 6 on The kickofff to give the texans 14 PTs on back to back touchdowns. Blair white connect on the ensuing drive for a long touchdown to tie it. Next Possesion the texans threw a pick on their own 25 and the Colts then ran it in. With 50 seconds the Texans marched from the 20 to the 4 and with 3 plays could not put the ball in. Daniels dropped a TD pass on first and goal but that was as close as we got as The Colts stuffed Benson to end the game! GREAT GAME OG.

Texans:
Schaub - 17 for 30 and 132 yards, and 2 INT.
The Texans running game is not worth mentioning! Lol

Colts:
Manning - 11 for 18 an 255 yards, 3 TD's and 3 INT.

The Texans are looking forward to next season as we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds! Cowboys 1st rd, Lions 2nd rd, and Panthers 3rd I believe! Time for some Beefing up. Look forward to the playoffs and seeing how everything unfolds. Good luck to everyone who makes it!
 
Chiefs 21 - Raiders 3

If the Broncos win out we will both be 10-6 with 3-3 division records. Hope Madden will be bright enough to figure that one out correctly....

Ah hell, I'll just beat the Broncos in the last week and make it easy on old Johnny boy.

Looking forward to it Kasper

DVO, great game as always. After you ate up my defense with the Cowboys I knew I had to change it up, glad it worked.
 
If you win out, meaning you beat me it = 3-3

I lose = 3-3

And of course, you need to win this weeks game for any of this to even matter.
 
Played both of my games tonight.

Dolphins 28
Patriots 18

The Dolphins pulled ahead and maintained a slight lead going into the fourth. Then they put up some points to start it off the 4th quarter, putting it out of reach (at least so I thought). The Patriots make 2 quick drives (kicking 2 onside kicks for recoveries) to make it 21-18, at this point I am getting worried. The Patriots then drive down field again, getting to the 1 yard line and Brady fumbles, which is then taken for a TD as time expires. This was one of the craziest endings I have been a part of, and really should have been a lose for me.

Lions 24
Chargers 7

Turnovers were huge in this game, 14 points were gained for the Lions from turnovers. The Lions gained the lead early, held on to it, and ran the clock out the majority of the 4th quarter. My defense came up big this game. I took Suh in for 3 sacks and a ff (I always control a DT on defense and usually Suh I feel like if I control anyone else I may screw something up). Something I didn't expect to happen is there were more passing yards for the Lions then rushing yards, as I am finally starting to find some plays that "click". My rushing game got shutdown for the most part with no plays over 20. It was a great game, and helped me figure out that I may be able to get a passing game down. Also, I hope you didn't mind that I went for the 2 extra points (I believe in the 3rd quarter), but I was pissed I shanked that extra point and just wanted to make it up. I hope you don't feel like I was running the score up or anything.

Best 17 atts 57 yds 1 TD
Pettigrew 7 rec 177 yds

Also, I hope the Packers lose this week, and can't wait to play them next week. Hopefully if anything I can clinch a wild card spot.
 
[quote name='LVPatriots']If you win out, meaning you beat me it = 3-3

I lose = 3-3

And of course, you need to win this weeks game for any of this to even matter.[/QUOTE]

I just went and looked at our respective performances against the division. We're both 3-2, so if I win out I win the division, since a win over you would put me at 4-2. Although, you're right, I need to beat Buffalo for it to matter anyway, lol.


Anyway, Billy McDugal, if you read this (I can't send PMs from my phone) I'm available all night until I go to bed around 1 EST or so, if you want to get a game in.
 
[quote name='KasterDB']I just went and looked at our respective performances against the division. We're both 3-2, so if I win out I win the division, since a win over you would put me at 4-2. Although, you're right, I need to beat Buffalo for it to matter anyway, lol.


Anyway, Billy McDugal, if you read this (I can't send PMs from my phone) I'm available all night until I go to bed around 1 EST or so, if you want to get a game in.[/QUOTE]
I'm actually hoping that my copy of the game comes in the mail tomorrow. But would you want to set up a possible time around 8 or 9 est on Friday to play it safe?
 
[quote name='KasterDB']I just went and looked at our respective performances against the division. We're both 3-2, so if I win out I win the division, since a win over you would put me at 4-2. Although, you're right, I need to beat Buffalo for it to matter anyway, lol.


Anyway, Billy McDugal, if you read this (I can't send PMs from my phone) I'm available all night until I go to bed around 1 EST or so, if you want to get a game in.[/QUOTE]


LOL, can't believe how bad I screwed that up.
 
[quote name='billymcdugal']I'm actually hoping that my copy of the game comes in the mail tomorrow. But would you want to set up a possible time around 8 or 9 est on Friday to play it safe?[/QUOTE]

I've got work until 9 on Friday. Would 9:30 be okay, though?
 
[quote name='KasterDB']I've got work until 9 on Friday. Would 9:30 be okay, though?[/QUOTE]
yeah that would work real well. and of course if I end up getting the game tomorrow i'll send ya a message on xbl and see if you could play.
 
I don't think head to head or divisional record matters for Madden playoff tie breakers. I think it is just in alphabetical order. I know it was in past years and that is still how it shows up in the standings now.
 
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