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[quote name='zewone']Maybe a temporary name change just to search and change it back after you have the excel feedback? It might work.[/QUOTE]
That won't work, because it wont change his name in the posts. This is feedback left for him, not by him.

We will figure something out to get at least some of his feedback in there.

Is anyone else getting a little excited for the new system?
I think its going to be a great addition. I'm sure it wont be perfect, but it should be infinitely better than the previous system.

I also wanted to add that April 30th is going to be the last day that I am accepting old feedback.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']That won't work, because it wont change his name in the posts. This is feedback left for him, not by him.

We will figure something out to get at least some of his feedback in there.

Is anyone else getting a little excited for the new system?
I think its going to be a great addition. I'm sure it wont be perfect, but it should be infinitely better than the previous system.

I also wanted to add that April 30th is going to be the last day that I am accepting old feedback.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps try to search CAG with google? If not then I'm sure you have more access to the info then the rest of us, don't you cheapy?

I am happy about the new system, but I don't understand why the old system was the way it was. On some other forums there is just a single thread with a single post at the top. In that post there is a list of user names and each time a trade takes place both traders PM the mod who updates the list by adding a + sign to each name to indicate positive feedback (of course if it is your first trade then instead of a + you simply get your name added). I don't understand why that wasn't how things were done here.

Anyhoo, I think some people were complaining about problems with openoffice? Well here is another FOS excel-compatible spreadsheet program:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/

And here is a direct link to the last working windows version (I'm sure most nonwindows users would already know about it):
http://www.gnome.org/~jody/gnumeric/win32/gnumeric-1.4.3-rc3.exe
 
[quote name='chunk']
I am happy about the new system, but I don't understand why the old system was the way it was. On some other forums there is just a single thread with a single post at the top. In that post there is a list of user names and each time a trade takes place both traders PM the mod who updates the list by adding a + sign to each name to indicate positive feedback (of course if it is your first trade then instead of a + you simply get your name added). I don't understand why that wasn't how things were done here.
[/QUOTE]

Because the Mod in charge would have an overflowing PM box, part of the problem with the current feedback system is that people get sick of updating the list every 4 days. I helped on the updates for a couple of months and it gets really boring quickly.
 
[quote name='mmn']Maybe I'll PM Cheapy and see if there's anything he can do to help me out. I really don't want to lose my feedback but theres no way I'm going to search through every page of every feedback thread.[/QUOTE]


here is what you do: check your PM message box, and if you made trades with those people, then click their name to get their userid # and that is really what you need.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Because the Mod in charge would have an overflowing PM box, part of the problem with the current feedback system is that people get sick of updating the list every 4 days. I helped on the updates for a couple of months and it gets really boring quickly.[/QUOTE]

As I started to do it after zion decided he was done with it, I agree, that it was a pain to get it done, since it was 1-2 hours of solid work.
 
Well, I've completed my feedback sheet. :shock: Went through all the trade threads to get it done, and boy, is that a real pain in the backside.

Found about about ten missing feedbacks, had six of them leave me feedback, two of them are by someone who hasn't been on CAG in about two weeks, one is for someone who's in the same boat, and the last one is someone who didn't leave me feedback and refuses to answer my PM's or leave me any feedback.

So, all told 282 feedback. :shock: I'll toss it in email either tomorrow or Saturday, just in case I get some of those missing feedbacks.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Because the Mod in charge would have an overflowing PM box, part of the problem with the current feedback system is that people get sick of updating the list every 4 days. I helped on the updates for a couple of months and it gets really boring quickly.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='shrike4242']As I started to do it after zion decided he was done with it, I agree, that it was a pain to get it done, since it was 1-2 hours of solid work.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but if your just adding a "+" instead of a whole freaking review then the job is much easier. Perhaps I'm underestimating the number of trades that go on here, but it seems to me that the main problem with the current system is that there is too much information involved. Trimming it down to simply a "+" for each trade makes it much more manageable.

How many trades could there possibly be in a week that it would take 2-3 hours to add "+" in front of names? It seems like it would need to be hundreds of trades each week to take that long.
 
Cheapy, I also emailed in the four for DarkSayian that I could find. He's done more trades, though the other parties haven't left him feedback, so I urged him to get them to leave feedback in the new system when it's up and running.
 
Well, just emailed mine. I found out there are some I never left feedback for(which for the ones I didn't I'll wait until the new system is up to leave it).
 
I just finished mine, but some of my feedback (from banned members) has disappeared. Should I enter it anyway, or do I just have to take the loss?
 
Would it be ok to put in feedback for myself that people didn't leave for me? I noticed that about 1/3 to about 1/4 of the trades I did I didn't recieve feedback for.

I have been thinking about giving a friendly reminder to these people once the new feedback is in place but I though it would be easier if I could do it myself. I could also find the feedback I left for them to help show that I'm not just making up feedback for trades that never happened.
 
[quote name='FOnewearl']Would it be ok to put in feedback for myself that people didn't leave for me? I noticed that about 1/3 to about 1/4 of the trades I did I didn't recieve feedback for.

I have been thinking about giving a friendly reminder to these people once the new feedback is in place but I though it would be easier if I could do it myself. I could also find the feedback I left for them to help show that I'm not just making up feedback for trades that never happened.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't recommend doing the first, since you're essentially making up your own feedback. (Sometimes people don't leave feedback because they forgot, are lazy, don't care about feedback, or don't want to give a less than perfect feedback.) If you really want their feedback that bad, you can bug them to add it in the new system. I personally don't like the idea of putting in feedback for yourself that was never given.
 
[quote name='judyjudyjudy']I wouldn't recommend doing the first, since you're essentially making up your own feedback.(Sometimes people don't leave feedback because they forgot, are lazy, don't care about feedback, or don't want to give a less than perfect feedback.) If you really want their feedback that bad, you can bug them to add it in the new system. I personally don't like the idea of putting in feedback for yourself that was never given.[/QUOTE]

I figured out how to find the feedback I left for trades that I didn't get feedback back for maybe I could just PM those peeps after the new feedback system is up with the link as I honestly think most of them just forgot & didn't mean not to leave feedback. I also didn't get the impression that anyone was unhappy with any of the trades I have done & I remember seeing encoragement here on CAG for people to get ahold of a trader before leaveing negative feedback although I'm thinking what you meant is that if someone felt like giving an 8 instead of a 10 for a trade rating they felt like they were being rude leaving an 8 & didn't leave feedback instead.

I understand why you wouldn't like the idea of making your own feedback only thing I could really come up with was a link to the feedback I left for the trade to at least be of some proof I traded but I still would be doing my own feedback

Edit - just sent mine in
 
[quote name='FOnewearl']I figured out how to find the feedback I left for trades that I didn't get feedback back for maybe I could just PM those peeps after the new feedback system is up with the link as I honestly think most of them just forgot & didn't mean not to leave feedback. I also didn't get the impression that anyone was unhappy with any of the trades I have done & I remember seeing encoragement here on CAG for people to get ahold of a trader before leaveing negative feedback although I'm thinking what you meant is that if someone felt like giving an 8 instead of a 10 for a trade rating they felt like they were being rude leaving an 8 & didn't leave feedback instead.

I understand why you wouldn't like the idea of making your own feedback only thing I could really come up with was a link to the feedback I left for the trade to at least be of some proof I traded but I still would be doing my own feedback

Edit - just sent mine in[/QUOTE]

First off, making your own feedback is a really bad idea. You don't know if someone had an issue with the trade, even if they didn't leave you negative feedback. I found multiple feedbacks I left for people that didn't have reciprocation, and they were more than happy to leave me feedback, and generally felt bad for not doing it. I ended up with 10 missing feedback and had 6 out of 10 of them reposted. The other four, three are from two people who haven't been on in two weeks, and the other one is from someone who's blown off PM's for six weeks.

Through making up your own feedback, you could easily boost your stats well beyond what you've really done, and doing that alone could give people a lack of desire to trade with you, because you're dishonest.

In all truth, getting your feedback is your responsbility, and part of the reason to switch to the new system is to have this not be something that needs to be chased down.

Send them a PM and ask them nicely to leave you feedback for the trade, and send them a link to your feedback for them. If they'll do it, then great, and if they won't, weigh that in mind when deciding to deal with them in the future.
 
[quote name='Heyricochet']Oops. I missed the due date. Oh well, I only had a couple feedback anyway. Damn finals.[/QUOTE]

:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this!
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this![/QUOTE]

You can always ask the people that left you feedback before to leave the same feedback again.
 
[quote name='maccabee72']I just got a few more feedbacks since I e-mailed my spreadsheet. Is it too late to submit the updated spreadsheet?[/QUOTE]
Why not have them redo them in the new system when it's done being implemented?
 
^^ That's what I plan to do. I mailed my sheet in really early in April, thinking I wouldn't do much trading that month. So now i have like 10 people I need to beg to leave me FB once the new system goes live :)

Sure that'd be half an hour worth of trading for shrike, but for me that's a heck of a lot ;)
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']:( bye bye 30+ trades... damn work, Im always out of the loop on things like this![/QUOTE]

The spreadsheet was just an easy way to mass-dump the feedback into the new system, and put the onus on keeping the feedbacks on you. Cheapy had to put a deadline on it, or he'd be doing them until the end of time.

I'd take the steps of identifying all your feedbacks, compile them together into a text file or something like that, and PM the people in question, with links to their feedbacks for you, and ask them to put it into the new system.
 
[quote name='wubb']^^ That's what I plan to do. I mailed my sheet in really early in April, thinking I wouldn't do much trading that month. So now i have like 10 people I need to beg to leave me FB once the new system goes live :)

Sure that'd be half an hour worth of trading for shrike, but for me that's a heck of a lot ;)[/QUOTE]

Heh, wubb, such the funny guy. :razz:

I have a number of feedbacks pending up for the new system as well, and I had a couple sneak in right at the wire, which was why I waited on mine until Saturday, just in case.
 
Do any of you guys know when the new system is gonna be up? I got a bunch of feedback to leave for people and i'm trying to keep track of it lol.
 
[quote name='SkyGheNe']Do any of you guys know when the new system is gonna be up? I got a bunch of feedback to leave for people and i'm trying to keep track of it lol.[/QUOTE]

I would think that it shouldnt' be very long, since with the cutoff date of Saturday for feedback, it might just be a "load the feedback in, make sure it all looks good, and then turn it on" situation.

I'm sure when a date has been nailed down, Cheapy will post something in here.
 
thanks shrike, i just emailed the document to cheapy yesterday. he said he could still take it. If not, judyjudyjudy said shed take care of it.
 
[quote name='BasketCase1080']thanks shrike, i just emailed the document to cheapy yesterday. he said he could still take it. If not, judyjudyjudy said shed take care of it.[/QUOTE]

When you say "document", did you send him the Excel file, as stated in his OP, or a text document? If you sent him a text document, I'm not sure what he's going to do with it, though I know judyjudyjudy has helped out other CAGs with transcribing it into an Excel document.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']When you say "document", did you send him the Excel file, as stated in his OP, or a text document? If you sent him a text document, I'm not sure what he's going to do with it, though I know judyjudyjudy has helped out other CAGs with transcribing it into an Excel document.[/QUOTE]
I'm helping Cheapy compile the feedback, so it doesn't really matter in the end :)
 
[quote name='judyjudyjudy']I'm helping Cheapy compile the feedback, so it doesn't really matter in the end :)[/QUOTE]

That's right, I remember you offering up your assistance to compile it into one big spreadsheet. Might as well as use mine as the starting one, makes the copy and paste a little smaller. :D
 
JudyJudyJudy has volunteered to put all the spreadsheets together into one big file.
Its my understanding that she is almost finished, but perhaps I misunderstood.

So, I think we should have the new system up and running pretty soon.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']JudyJudyJudy has volunteered to put all the spreadsheets together into one big file.
Its my understanding that she is almost finished, but perhaps I misunderstood.

So, I think we should have the new system up and running pretty soon.[/QUOTE]

And there was much rejoicing. :bouncy: As well as the release of the torrent of held-back feedback upon the release of the new system.
 
Are you able to respond to FB left for you with traderratings? I did a little research and it doesn't seem like you can, just wondering if anyone knows for sure.

Doesn't change the fact that this system will be a ton better than the old way :)
 
Judy, were it lawful for me to do so, I'd buy you a beer.

fuck, that reminds me, I still owe shrike one. I'm not even of legal drinking ago and I'm already running up a massive tab...
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Judy, were it lawful for me to do so, I'd buy you a beer.

fuck, that reminds me, I still owe shrike one. I'm not even of legal drinking ago and I'm already running up a massive tab...[/QUOTE]

I'm sure Cheapy can always fill in for the beer-buying. :D

And yes, the PM with that beer promise was eaten in the great migration of 2005, so I only have your word on that. :roll: Damn youngin's. You owe me a beer and parental rights on the Arikado-Ledhed Halo 2 superbaby, y'know. ;)
 
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