CAGcast #145: Farts, Favorites, and Firings

[quote name='bmulligan']I like the Shipwreck inclusion into the Cagcast in recent weeks. He adds an air of respectability and I get the feeling he's like the fact checking robot producer during the entire show.

I'm not a believer in the "Cheapy is a 360 whore" theory, because the 360 is obviously the best choice for the majority of the gaming community right now. It has the biggest and best game library so it only makes sense that the majority of news is skewed toward the 360. Never was this more evident than during the "gamer picks" of the year segment of the show. However, I think that you guys are committing a disservice to Wii owners and perhaps alienating an entire segment of potential listeners by virtually ignoring the Wii on a weekly, and now yearly basis.

You should make more of an effort to play Wii games and become a resource for some of your audience that has gaming aged children. We buy Wi games and might be inclined to buy more were they to have your endorsement and associated linkage. Ignoring games because you don't like them or because of the perceived irrelevance of the Wii may be a good reason for 25 year old joe gamer, but not for someone who makes his living off of the videogame market. Shipwreck doesn't even have kids yet and he's played 10 times the number of Wii games that you and Wombat have combined. Remember that your kids aren't going to be playing Gears of War as soon as they're old enough to hold a controller, and they'll be grown up enough for videogames sooner than you realize.[/quote]
Count me in the alienated crowd. I'm a PS3 and Wii owner. I used to own a 360 but it got the red rings and Microsoft's customer service was horrible so when I eventually got my refurbished 360 I sold it. I'm sorry but I speak with my wallet, if a company mistreats me then I don't buy their products anymore.

Anyways, I know Cheapy doesn't think he is biased but trust me, from someone who listens to like 14 different gaming podcasts on and off, the show is definitely biased towards the 360. 360 demo's and Xbox live arcade games are often-times discussed in detail while similar things on the PS3 and Wii are glossed over as if they didn't exist. Cheapy's criticisms and complaints on the PS3 and Wii are also much more dramatic then when encounters very similar things that are 360-related.

I understand that Cheapy is a 360 fan but if he's going to do a multi-platform gaming podcast he really should broaden his gaming. I mean you heard the podcast, he didn't complete any PS3 or Wii games the entire year! He couldn't even give a Wii game of the year nomination because he only played 2 games the entire year on it and then admits that it hasn't been plugged in for months. That's ok for a regular gamer but not for someone who is trying to be a icon in the world of gaming.

Cheapy, here's something you might want to try. Dedicate an entire month next year to the Wii. In that month, only allow yourself to play Wii and Wii-ware games. Try and find stuff you like, get your wife to play with you. Enjoy your damn Wii! Then do the same thing with the PS3 for one month. Finish Metal Gear Solid 4! Play some of those excellent PSN games.

If you did that, I think you would appreciate your other systems more and would be more open to trying out some of the games for those systems in the coming months.
 
I hope that Ship continues to be a regular guest in the podcast due to his outside opinion, also the wombat pictures are funny as hell.
 
Great show...loved shipwreck in it, such a perfect mix of really different personalities. Porn or DS game was great. Ship really seemed to be getting into it!
 
I've gotta say that most of my favorite shows so far are the ones with shipwreck on it, I just enjoy the way the show moves along with a third person, it gives the show a fresh feel and it sounded like Cheapy liked not having to keep the entire show moving along on his own. Also, Wombats the shit.
 
Fantastic show guys, I must say this and the last show are my favourites since I first started listening to the show in June. I definitely think Shipwreck should accompany you two more often as it makes for a great show.
 
Nice end of 2008 wrap-up. Cool to devote the whole show to the awards.

I'm not going to judge your choices being that they're what you had the most fun with, but I really wish I could have had as much fun with Fable 2 as you guys did. I simply can not get passed the constant bugs, freezings, errors and any other technical difficulties. This is really a shame being that I really was seeming to love the game. It's not my system or my disc as I have tried multiple copies of the game and many other people have the same problems.

In terms of fun, Saint's Row 2 is definitely up there with my most enjoyable games of the year. It's no technical achievement by any standard but the game is just ridiculous fun. I had the same difficulties playing like Wombat did, but the fun of the game really got me to keep playing.

And that was actually a really cool cover/remix of "You Got It" in the show opening. Did you pick up any of the Roy Orbison DLC for Rock Band?
 
Great show, Cheapy had me laughing multiple times there. Also, I totally agree with him about GTA 4 being disappointing, and Saint's Row 2 being excellent.
 
I have to say that I agree with you Cheapy regarding GTA IV; Its like they turned GTA IV into Shemue, with having to keep in contact with friends and being forced to do things with them. Niko even has Ryu's brown jacket. Saints row seems to be more GTA like than GTA. (I'll be picking up Saints Row after I finish GTA)


Good show guys. I really enjoyed how you guys handled the show, instead of acting like fanboys you simply picked the games that YOU enjoyed. Which is good because now no one can complain about your pics, there's no pressure to pick a certain game to avoid backlash from CAGcast listeners. I enjoyed the new Game of the Year format; I felt like you guys were being Honest about what YOU liked.

The only thing that disappointed me about Cheapy and Ship is that you guys really aren't playing your PS3 enough. You guys missed out on the gems of the console.
[I know its hard to play games on two different consoles..heck, the only 360 game I bought and played this year was Castle Crashers... so I know I got a lot of catching up to do. (oh yeah and I played 13 dollar- The Club on 360). Which is why its still in working order.]


Wombat that was Classic - DS Game, or Porno! I Freakin LOVED IT!!!!!!

I have to admit that this show is a great way to Start of the 2009 Cagcast season! Good Job, Cheapy, Ship and Wombat!


- I'm definitely sad about EGM closing its doors, been reading the magazine almost since day one. It was the only one I was reading. All good things must come to an end.
 
I don't think it would be a good idea to make CAGplay Forecast its own separate podcast, instead just have the episode appear on both the CAGcast feed and Foreplay feed.

Wombat's game of "DS or Porno title" is the most hilarious thing I've heard in a while.
 
Great show. Nice to have Shipwreck on the cast. He does add some class and respectability. The Foreplay cast is great too though.
The porn website thing was the best. This is classic crazy Cheapy and what brings me back to the CagCast week after week. The dick in a 360 deal was also great. Another example of unique Cagcast humor.
Keep up the great work and look forward to another year of Cagcast. I'll be listening for the second time tomorrow at work. The masses thank you for your efforts.
 
[quote name='XTommyDonX']I'm not going to judge your choices being that they're what you had the most fun with, but I really wish I could have had as much fun with Fable 2 as you guys did. I simply can not get passed the constant bugs, freezings, errors and any other technical difficulties. This is really a shame being that I really was seeming to love the game. It's not my system or my disc as I have tried multiple copies of the game and many other people have the same problems.[/QUOTE]

I got the animation bug where your character gets stuck and doesn't walk - luckily, it spontaneously resolved itself. Had that been a permanent thing, I wouldn't have played another second of the game. I understand what you're getting at!

[quote name='Thomas96']The only thing that disappointed me about Cheapy and Ship is that you guys really aren't playing your PS3 enough. You guys missed out on the gems of the console.[/QUOTE] The month that PJM came out, the PS3 practically overheated from use. :D
 
Great Show! I would love to hear Shipwreck join Cheapy and Wombat every week. I also really like the concept of sharing your picks of the games you enjoyed most in 08, because in the end, its not about frame rates, or game length or story lines, its about how much fun you get out of it.
 
good show, I agree with Wombat, MGS4 was the best game I played this year....everyone needs to play that game
 
enjoyable show. I listened to it at work and now I have forgotten what movie ship and wombat said we should watch off netflix.
 
Good show, I loved DS Game or Porno. You guys should do games/trivia esque things like that more often.
 
enjoyed the show, guys. great to have you back, cheapy. though, you guys may be shooting yourselves in the foot (feet?) there. now, the people will want shipwreck in the mix all the time.

the porno vs. ds game was great. i actually used to have kelly the co-ed on dvd.

big shout out to ice pirates. i saw that movie only once when i was a kid, yet i've never forgotten that conveyor belt & metal teeth scene.
 
[quote name='Zerostatic']Anyways, I know Cheapy doesn't think he is biased but trust me, from someone who listens to like 14 different gaming podcasts on and off, the show is definitely biased towards the 360. 360 demo's and Xbox live arcade games are often-times discussed in detail while similar things on the PS3 and Wii are glossed over as if they didn't exist.[/quote]
I do not list to 14 gaming podcasts; I merely listen to a few. But on all my gaming podcasts, there are two major things I have noticed: the Xbox 360 gets the majority of the coverage, and no one is playing their Wiis. I do not think CheapyD is an anomoly in that he didn't finish a Wii or a PS3 game; I am sure there are other CAGs who are in similar situations.

[quote name='Zerostatic']I understand that Cheapy is a 360 fan but if he's going to do a multi-platform gaming podcast he really should broaden his gaming. I mean you heard the podcast, he didn't complete any PS3 or Wii games the entire year! He couldn't even give a Wii game of the year nomination because he only played 2 games the entire year on it and then admits that it hasn't been plugged in for months. That's ok for a regular gamer but not for someone who is trying to be a icon in the world of gaming.[/quote]

I have heard this argument before, that it is CheapyD and the CAGCast's job to cover all games equally. I do not agree. I think the job of the CAGCast is to be entertaining. I would much rather have CheapyD talk to me about the games he enjoyed and why, rather than things he is struggling to get through just to make listeners happy. He is better to listen to when he's happy about gaming.

There is only one area that CAG needs to be fair to all systems, and that is deals. If the deal section suddenly became only Xbox 360 games, then I would start worrying. But as long as he covers everything there, I'm good.
 
I was also wondering what the opening music was, and a google of "you got it mashup" eventually landed at Girl Talk. It's the track "In Step" on the Feed the Animals album there..

Andy
 
Thanks for choosing NGII shipwreck. I feel slightly vindicated knowing that someone else whose favorite last gen game was NGI also saw through NGII's laziness. It shouts "where's my million dollar bonus for DoA4 bitches"

opening track was girl talk edit: beaten
 
[quote name='aclayton']I was also wondering what the opening music was, and a google of "you got it mashup" eventually landed at Girl Talk. It's the track "In Step" on the Feed the Animals album there..

Andy[/quote]

it sounded like a homeless man shouting random letters over an old roy orbison song... very bizarre... and awful
 
I'm working my way through the podcast right now, but I really admire that you guys not only lamented the end of 1up but gave a whole-hearted endorsement of RockSolidAudio. It has been terrible to watch the guillotine on the 1up staff-- layoffs are always painful to hear about.
 
Really good show this week. I don't know why, but I just loved this episode. Maybe it was the 'Porno or DS game' segment... you should have more quirky segments like those. gg Wombat
 
The beta for the new games collection system just sounds odd for just forums.

None of you played Mirror's Edge? I thought Wombat said on the CAGplay Forecast that he was playing it.

I hope you guys played the second episode of Penny Arcade Adventures since it's even better and offers more difficulties if you want that sort of thing. It's $15 and the second episode offers much more replay value. Plus, it's another easy 200 points.

I don't think Mario Kart Wii would win any awards because the series hasn't really improved at all since Super Mario Kart, as I've never been interested or enthralled by any Mario Kart games since SMK.

I never really paid much attention to what World of Goo was supposed to be like, but it sounds a lot like Elefunk on PSN, which is about building bridges for elephants to cross to the goal.

I know you guys think this is the worst game in the world, but LBP also shows you the high score of the friend right above you on your friendlist leaderboard.

Didn't you hype up GTAIV a ton before launch, Cheapy? I'd be interested in hearing about why you put the blame all on everybody else and not any on yourself. I remember you bringing a certain someone on the Live CAGcast before its launch to talk about his "special" version of the game and talk about how life-changing GTAIV was.

Good show, though it sounded like Cheapy wanted to go back to sleep as soon as Wombat and Shipwreck would just shut up.
[quote name='aclayton']I was also wondering what the opening music was, and a google of "you got it mashup" eventually landed at Girl Talk. It's the track "In Step" on the Feed the Animals album there..

Andy[/quote]
Did you miss it being listed in the OP under the spoilered show notes?
 
I really enjoyed this week's show. After the disappointing news about 1up, this was a great pick me up. To all the people complaining about bias, Cheapy and Co. are not professional games journalists. They play what they want and they try to deliver podcast content to the CAG users. If you are looking for an all-encompassing podcast you are in the wrong place. Even as comprehensive as Shipwreck is, even he misses things. Ease up CAG community.
 
Why buy the Wombat when UGO can milk his jewy nipples for free?
its sad whats going on with the UGO 1up fallout. It was pretty obvious that Ziff was sinking when there was a mass exodus of staffers last year, I even addressed job security on a 1up blog last year and Rocksolidaudio responded with "do you think we'd be hiring if we were shutting down". I hate to say I told you so but I told you so. Best of Luck to the 1up crew. There goes CAGcast's major competition, and its just the beginning of the corporate fat trimming coming this year. Its just more proof that Cheapy has the best job in the industry.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']
Did you miss it being listed in the OP under the spoilered show notes?[/QUOTE]

Haha, I sure did.. And here I was admiring my sound-detective abilities.. :)

New CAGcast listener for the past few, loving it!
 
Frogs were raining from the sky since wombat was not as negative as he should be. Wombat be the "angry video game jew" for next show and return the world order!
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']The beta for the new games collection system just sounds odd for just forums.[/quote]That's the thing...we are adding entire new sections to the site yet everything will be integrated.
 
[quote name='mrs. shipwreck']I got the animation bug where your character gets stuck and doesn't walk - luckily, it spontaneously resolved itself. Had that been a permanent thing, I wouldn't have played another second of the game. I understand what you're getting at!

The month that PJM came out, the PS3 practically overheated from use. :D[/QUOTE]

You know you guys should post a video of you and Ship playing. (game has video recording now).
I was playig PJM yesterday and I was showing it to my cousin, the music and the ring menu instantly made him think of Secret of Mana (SNES) - Now every time I play it I think about SoM.

I think that you and ship are going to end up playing more games for the PS3 in 2009. Did you guys ever try out Pixel Junk Eden... that's my favorite.
 
The picture with the cereal....no it couldn't be....WOMBAT? Now that that's out of the way excellent show fellas. I think you should just merge the cagcast and cagforeplay. The more voices in one show the better. Clearly the ships bring so much to the table so why have 2 seperate shows? I hope my suggestion wont fall on deaf ears.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']That's the thing...we are adding entire new sections to the site yet everything will be integrated.[/quote]

....February huh. By god i really will eat that hat if it is done!
 
thanks for the intro song info - been a fan of the show for awhile, but hos can yo totally ignore the wii !? I know it's mostly Kids games - I KNOW
 
..i know that literally 98% of it is crap , But you didnt even play MArio Cart, world of Goo wasnt bad either (but its also available on PC) - AND the system didn't Debut at the 'over $500' price point . When the Atari came out in '77 it was $200 the wii was only $50 more ant that was almost $30 years later, THATs technology working for you, YOu call yourself Cheap ASS but you don't mind that most of the new systems cost more than I can buy an old junker car (that runs) for !?
 
Nice show guys. :cool:

I liked Cheapy's pick of Saints Row 2 as his GOTY because it's based entirely on what game he had the most fun with, not what game looked the best or had the most-engaging story. Videogames are about having fun, so a GOTY should be the one that you had the most fun with.

I know after playing games like GTA IV and Gears 2, and then playing SR2, my first thought was, "Wow, this game is UGLY!". But after I got past that, I enjoyed it quite a bit, almost more than GTA. It's definitely one of my favorite games of the year as well.
 
[quote name='lebkin']


I have heard this argument before, that it is CheapyD and the CAGCast's job to cover all games equally. I do not agree. I think the job of the CAGCast is to be entertaining. I would much rather have CheapyD talk to me about the games he enjoyed and why, rather than things he is struggling to get through just to make listeners happy. He is better to listen to when he's happy about gaming.
.[/QUOTE]

It’s not that entertaining to hear about the same games for the same systems week in and week out. Given the amount of positive feedback Shipwreck is getting, it seems pretty clear that the limited gaming palette of the hosts is getting boring. Cheapy himself buys all sorts of shit just to “talk about on the show”, so it seems to the he recognizes that due diligence should be a part of the show (even if he doesn’t always practice it).

That said, everything outside the game talk is great.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']That's the thing...we are adding entire new sections to the site yet everything will be integrated.[/quote]
It's just the thing about only giving access to a finished section of the site to a small amount of people instead of releasing it for everyone when it's four months past due.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's just the thing about only giving access to a finished section of the site to a small amount of people instead of releasing it for everyone when it's four months past due.[/quote]

Well said.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's just the thing about only giving access to a finished section of the site to a small amount of people instead of releasing it for everyone when it's four months past due.[/QUOTE]

add the words "we hope" to Cheapy's sentence and remember he still needs this new service to be tested.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']It's just the thing about only giving access to a finished section of the site to a small amount of people instead of releasing it for everyone when it's four months past due.[/QUOTE]

You realize you are arguing with 2008 Douche Bag of the Year award winner, right?
 
[quote name='Wombat']You realize you are arguing with 2008 Douche Bag of the Year award winner, right?[/quote]

I though that title belongs to Soulja Boy
 
[quote name='Wombat']You realize you are arguing with 2008 Douche Bag of the Year award winner, right?[/quote]
:lol: Yes, that's why I'm not arguing about it.
 
Great show guys! I liked the format for going over what everyone's favorite games were. Nice work by Bukkakke-san to put it together.
 
[quote name='Wombat']You realize you are arguing with 2008 Douche Bag of the Year award winner, right?[/quote]

my vote's in for Cheapy as Douche Bag of the Year 2009!
 
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