CAGLS: Madden 13 Gentlemen's League - We Finished! Thanks for Playing!

I know you guys have vacancies of your own, but if anybody is looking to take on a second team we've got an opening in the other league (Chargers) that we're trying to fill. PM me if interested.
 
[quote name='Cool_iAM']flyersfan ur inbox is full but ill be free all day tomorrow just hit me up[/QUOTE]


Sorry about that, it's cleared now. Sounds good, I'll pm you tomorrow with a time.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']Steggy my love hit me up in a pm.[/QUOTE]

Steggy PM'd me last week to let me know he's got a heavy work load right now and isn't sure how well he'll be able to keep up with the league. He said he wants to try though, and since we don't have people beating down the door to join, I told him that was fine. If you don't hear from him in the next day or two though, just let me know, and you can play the CPU.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Giants send:

RB Ahmad Bradshaw Age 27
2013: 4.73 M
2014: 5.55 M

Speed: 92
Acceleration: 96
Elusiveness: 89
Carry: 96

CB Jayron Hosley Age 22
2013: 570 K
2014: 700K
2015: 860 K

Man Coverage: 82
Zone Coverage: 84
Press: 43
Play Recognition: 73
Speed: 92

For

WR Kevin Walter Age 32

2013: 4.64 M
2014: 5.74 M

Catch: 84
Catch in Traffic: 85
Route Running: 83
Speed: 73
Release: 71

ROLB Whitney Merclius Age 23

Pursuit: 88
Speed: 84
Tackle: 82
Play Recognition: 63

2013: 1.76 M
2014: 1.98 M
2015 2.28 M

Texans 3rd round pick in 2014[/QUOTE]

Trade Approved

[quote name='GamerDude316']The Bucs and Broncos have reached an agreement on a trade I would like to send to the committee.

Bucs send

2nd round draft pick

Bucs Cap Space - $1.98M

Broncos send

WR Eric Decker
Age: 26
OVR: 79
CTH: 79
CIT: 86
RTE: 83
RLS: 82
SPD: 88
STR: 69
ACC: 86
AWR: 77

Contract totals:

years left: 6
total salary: $11.54 Mil
cap hit (2013); $440K
Bonus: $650K

2013: $440K
2014: $1.34 Mil
2015: $1.71 Mil
2016: $2.2 Mil
2017: $2.83 Mil
2018: $3.67 Mil

Broncos Cap Space - $24.45M

I'm doing this trade to pick up WR option to join VJax. Dark Rider wants a quality draft pick. Please let me know if you need anything else![/QUOTE]

Trade Approved
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']
Trade Approved[/QUOTE]

Woo! Now I have to root against Gamer Dude the rest of the year so I get a higher draft pick. :D

Edit: Gamer Dude, let me know when you're around so we can put the trade through!
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Woo! Now I have to root against Gamer Dude the rest of the year so I get a higher draft pick. :D

Edit: Gamer Dude, let me know when you're around so we can put the trade through![/QUOTE]

haha pretty much!

I'm playing Nate in a little bit, I should be around my xbox till 11 or so EST. Hopefully we can put it through tonight (I think we can since we'll have both played our game) and then it will be good to go for week 4!
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']Sorry about that, it's cleared now. Sounds good, I'll pm you tomorrow with a time.[/QUOTE]

Cool
 
Titans - 24
Bucs - 17

Tennessee squeaks one out against Tampa Bay. I found myself playing catch up early in this one, trailing 17-9, with the Bucs lining up for a field goal as the first half expired. Fortunately, Tampa's kicker missed, and I got the ball to start the 3rd. Despite fumbling inside the TB 5 yard line in the 2nd quarter, Chris Johnson was having a great day, and scored his 2nd TD of the game, to make the score 17-15. The Titans went for the 2 point conversion and barely got it, knotting the game up at 17.

Defense took over from here, as the teams traded possessions several times until the Titans started a drive at the Bucs 40 yard line following a great punt return from Marc Mariani. Tennessee would not let this opportunity go to waste, as CJ rumbled into the endzone again, for his 3rd TD of the game, which would be the game winning score. Tampa Bay made one last effort, but came up short on 4th down, as Dallas Clark couldn't hold onto to a ball as he took a hit for the first time all game.

Great game to GamerDude! He had me on my heels early, as I didn't think my defense was going to stop anything. I had a few balls bounce right off my DB's hands and the CJ fumble was disheartening. But I tried to just keep coming and hope my defense would finally come up with a stop. I definitely feel fortunate to escape this one with a win though.

Titans
Jake Locker - 5-8, 66 yds, 0 TDs, 2 INTs
Chris Johnson - 18 att, 228 yds, 3 TDs (69 yds, 36 yds, 17 yds), 1 rec, 11 yds
Craig Stevens - 2 rec, 21 yds
Michael Griffin - 6 tackles

Buccaneers
Josh Freeman - 11-20, 255 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs
Doug Martin - 14 att, 25 yds
Dallas Clark - 5 rec, 115 yds,
Vincent Jackson - 4 rec, 45 yds, 1 TD
Mike Williams - 1 rec, 46 yds, 1 TD
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Titans - 24
Bucs - 17

Tennessee squeaks one out against Tampa Bay. I found myself playing catch up early in this one, trailing 17-9, with the Bucs lining up for a field goal as the first half expired. Fortunately, Tampa's kicker missed, and I got the ball to start the 3rd. Despite fumbling inside the TB 5 yard line in the 2nd quarter, Chris Johnson was having a great day, and scored his 2nd TD of the game, to make the score 17-15. The Titans went for the 2 point conversion and barely got it, knotting the game up at 17.

Defense took over from here, as the teams traded possessions several times until the Titans started a drive at the Bucs 40 yard line following a great punt return from Marc Mariani. Tennessee would not let this opportunity go to waste, as CJ rumbled into the endzone again, for his 3rd TD of the game, which would be the game winning score. Tampa Bay made one last effort, but came up short on 4th down, as Dallas Clark couldn't hold onto to a ball as he took a hit for the first time all game.

Great game to GamerDude! He had me on my heels early, as I didn't think my defense was going to stop anything. I had a few balls bounce right off my DB's hands and the CJ fumble was disheartening. But I tried to just keep coming and hope my defense would finally come up with a stop. I definitely feel fortunate to escape this one with a win though.

Titans
Jake Locker - 5-8, 66 yds, 0 TDs, 2 INTs
Chris Johnson - 18 att, 228 yds, 3 TDs (69 yds, 36 yds, 17 yds), 1 rec, 11 yds
Craig Stevens - 2 rec, 21 yds
Michael Griffin - 6 tackles

Buccaneers
Josh Freeman - 11-20, 255 yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTs
Doug Martin - 14 att, 25 yds
Dallas Clark - 5 rec, 115 yds,
Vincent Jackson - 4 rec, 45 yds, 1 TD
Mike Williams - 1 rec, 46 yds, 1 TD[/QUOTE]

Great game man!

I couldnt believe I missed that FG at the end of the half...one tick too far to the left. Really dont like the FG camera setting, its not well suited for long kicks like that. That was definitely the momentum changer, I knew I was in trouble as soon it went wide left.

EDIT: that punt return was killer too. I dont know what my special teams was doing lollygagging down the field like that!
 
Seahawks over Steelers 17-0. Great defensive effort by Seattle.

First two Steelers drives were scary--driving very well early on within FG range and a receiver fumbled the ball and coughed it up. Two plays later, Rodgers throws a duck of an INT (my fault). But then one of the crazier INTs I've seen happened--Chancellor I believe it was, was behind the TE, and basically snached the ball from right in front of him. I'd be bullshit if that happened to me, lol.

Seahawks managed one good TD drive, TD to Braylon edwards, and a later FG to give the needed padding.

My late TD might look a little dickish on the scoreboard, and it somewhat is due to a mistake. It was 3rd and 15 or so and I ran a counter and broke free. I tried to back off to get the 1st down inside the 5 but not score, but instead of going out of bounds, I just backed off the stick, and got tackled forwards into the endzone. Sorry about that. It unfortunately led to another Roethlisberger pick, too, to seal the game once and for all.

GG steelers. Could have been completely different but the turnovers were key, and usually how Seattle manages to win games and put points on the board these days.
 
[quote name='Lexxon']Seahawks over Steelers 17-0. Great defensive effort by Seattle.

First two Steelers drives were scary--driving very well early on within FG range and a receiver fumbled the ball and coughed it up. Two plays later, Rodgers throws a duck of an INT (my fault). But then one of the crazier INTs I've seen happened--Chancellor I believe it was, was behind the TE, and basically snached the ball from right in front of him. I'd be bullshit if that happened to me, lol.

Seahawks managed one good TD drive, TD to Braylon edwards, and a later FG to give the needed padding.

My late TD might look a little dickish on the scoreboard, and it somewhat is due to a mistake. It was 3rd and 15 or so and I ran a counter and broke free. I tried to back off to get the 1st down inside the 5 but not score, but instead of going out of bounds, I just backed off the stick, and got tackled forwards into the endzone. Sorry about that. It unfortunately led to another Roethlisberger pick, too, to seal the game once and for all.

GG steelers. Could have been completely different but the turnovers were key, and usually how Seattle manages to win games and put points on the board these days.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that late TD is dickish. As has been said in the past, stopping yourself from scoring is above and beyond really. Besides, 10-0 isn't an insurmountable deficit anyway.
 
i have a quick question about the "gentlemen's" aspect of this league. Now by no means is this a bitch fest just a question if i'm in the right or the wrong. Plain and simple i got out played, the whole game no chance. I thought i had a chance going up 14-0 but couldnt score a point after that.

So its the start of the 4th quarter, im down 21 points and he has the ball at about his 25. 1st and 2nd down, both runs, 3rd and 2 about 4 mins left in the 4th, and he audibles the play, ends up being a throw for a first down. No problem, hes on his 40ish about now.

Takes another 1:00 off the clock so theres about 3 mins left in the 4th hes on my 25 about, 2nd or 3rd down and short, and he throws again for the first.

Granted, he knew i couldnt stop it, and that was true, but hes up 21, and if he gets stopped on 3rd hes up 24 with about 2:30 to go.

Am i in the wrong here? I think the first 3rd and short is borderline, 3 TDs up and i havent scored a point since my 2nd drive of the game and i can't stop his offense. If i stop him and so happen to score. I'm lucky if theres 2:30 left on the clock for me to get the ball back twice, and score TDs none the less.

Now the 2nd throw inside the 25 with less than 3 mins to go i always thought was something would be run, it runs the clock down and hes up 21 pts already.

Again, not a bitchfest or anything like that, i'm not complaining cause i got stomped due to my opponent being a way better player than me. I just want to hear the thoughts of everyone else in the league.
 
Yeah, a 10-0 game and a running play on 3rd and 15...hard to see that as being egregious. It's so weird. I feel like we have people on both extremes of how to close out a game. Some people don't recognize when the game is over and others are almost too cautious in close games. I don't want anybody being afraid of playing. It's just about making the right play call depending on the situation. Unless you could have kneeled the ball to run the clock out, on 3rd and 15 deep in his territory, I'm guessing you just figured he'd stop you short and you'd kick a field goal. I think most of us are smart enough to see the intent, and there's no malice on a play like that.
 
I was throwing cause you were stacking the line. I had no intentions to score anways just to run the clock. You competed in the game I thought you were going to win when it was 14-14 I scored just before the half and got lucky then since I got the ball at half I kept momentum and made the game 31-14.
 
[quote name='scrub0bk']i have a quick question about the "gentlemen's" aspect of this league. Now by no means is this a bitch fest just a question if i'm in the right or the wrong. Plain and simple i got out played, the whole game no chance. I thought i had a chance going up 14-0 but couldnt score a point after that.

So its the start of the 4th quarter, im down 21 points and he has the ball at about his 25. 1st and 2nd down, both runs, 3rd and 2 about 4 mins left in the 4th, and he audibles the play, ends up being a throw for a first down. No problem, hes on his 40ish about now.

Takes another 1:00 off the clock so theres about 3 mins left in the 4th hes on my 25 about, 2nd or 3rd down and short, and he throws again for the first.

Granted, he knew i couldnt stop it, and that was true, but hes up 21, and if he gets stopped on 3rd hes up 24 with about 2:30 to go.

Am i in the wrong here? I think the first 3rd and short is borderline, 3 TDs up and i havent scored a point since my 2nd drive of the game and i can't stop his offense. If i stop him and so happen to score. I'm lucky if theres 2:30 left on the clock for me to get the ball back twice, and score TDs none the less.

Now the 2nd throw inside the 25 with less than 3 mins to go i always thought was something would be run, it runs the clock down and hes up 21 pts already.

Again, not a bitchfest or anything like that, i'm not complaining cause i got stomped due to my opponent being a way better player than me. I just want to hear the thoughts of everyone else in the league.[/QUOTE]

What was your timeout situation on the second 3rd down? The first one I think is fair (4 minutes left, pass play on 3rd and short), but the second 3rd down, in FG range, with an obvious lead I think is a little more iffy. But if you had all your timeouts I can kinda see the throw since if you stopped his run play you'd just use a timeout anyway, not chewing much clock.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']What was your timeout situation on the second 3rd down? The first one I think is fair (4 minutes left, pass play on 3rd and short), but the second 3rd down, in FG range, with an obvious lead I think is a little more iffy. But if you had all your timeouts I can kinda see the throw since if you stopped his run play you'd just use a timeout anyway, not chewing much clock.[/QUOTE]

He had all his timeouts I threw it and he int it and then tried to score. He used his timeouts on that drive and the game ended.

So basically I was moving the ball and the clock trying to close the game out.
 
[quote name='scrub0bk']i have a quick question about the "gentlemen's" aspect of this league. Now by no means is this a bitch fest just a question if i'm in the right or the wrong. Plain and simple i got out played, the whole game no chance. I thought i had a chance going up 14-0 but couldnt score a point after that.

So its the start of the 4th quarter, im down 21 points and he has the ball at about his 25. 1st and 2nd down, both runs, 3rd and 2 about 4 mins left in the 4th, and he audibles the play, ends up being a throw for a first down. No problem, hes on his 40ish about now.

Takes another 1:00 off the clock so theres about 3 mins left in the 4th hes on my 25 about, 2nd or 3rd down and short, and he throws again for the first.

Granted, he knew i couldnt stop it, and that was true, but hes up 21, and if he gets stopped on 3rd hes up 24 with about 2:30 to go.

Am i in the wrong here? I think the first 3rd and short is borderline, 3 TDs up and i havent scored a point since my 2nd drive of the game and i can't stop his offense. If i stop him and so happen to score. I'm lucky if theres 2:30 left on the clock for me to get the ball back twice, and score TDs none the less.

Now the 2nd throw inside the 25 with less than 3 mins to go i always thought was something would be run, it runs the clock down and hes up 21 pts already.

Again, not a bitchfest or anything like that, i'm not complaining cause i got stomped due to my opponent being a way better player than me. I just want to hear the thoughts of everyone else in the league.[/QUOTE]

The first scenario was definitely ok, like you said. The second one though, I don't see any reason not to just run the ball and kick the field goal. Had the pass been incomplete, he's not killing clock. That's the issue.

[quote name='GpNinja']I was throwing cause you were stacking the line. I had no intentions to score anways just to run the clock. You competed in the game I thought you were going to win when it was 14-14 I scored just before the half and got lucky then since I got the ball at half I kept momentum and made the game 31-14.[/QUOTE]

Not the point. As mentioned above, up 21 points with 3 minutes to go, in field goal range, what's the point of risking the throw? Had you not completed it, you would have stopped the clock for no reason other than being greedy. As scrub0k said, it's not a huge deal, but you also shouldn't be shocked if people start to regard you as an asshole for pushing the limits of good taste if you continue making those kinds of calls.
 
The point was I didn't want too kick the field goal and run up the score more. That's why I threw to try to get a first. He was still trying to score when he got the ball back I could have been an "asshole" and scored on that drive but I didn't.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']The point was I didn't want too kick the field goal and run up the score more. That's why I threw to try to get a first. He was still trying to score when he got the ball back I could have been an "asshole" and scored on that drive but I didn't.[/QUOTE]

Your logic here makes no sense. Make the right play call and if your opponent FORCES you to score more points (ie. by using his timeouts...or giving up field position with lots of time on the clock), then that's just the way the game goes. There's no reason to "try to run the clock out" by doing things that there's no reason to do.

If you face a 4th down at his 25 with more than 2 minutes left in the game...of course you kick the field goal. What other choice do you have? Punt? Kneel the ball? How stupid does that sound? A real coach would kick the field goal. The way people talk in here sometimes, you'd think they'd never seen an NFL game before.

I'm also confused about what happened as a result of that play. He made it sound like you converted the 1st down. You said something about him getting an INT? What actually happened?
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Broncos fall to the Patriots 7-3

Absolutely ridiculous game. The Patriots Run D was insane. I have never seen AIs who hit as hard as they do. My RBs coughed up the ball three times in field goal range.

Gronkoski. Enough said. If he were in Rome they would have deemed him a god. Just throw it near him and you've got a catch. Kinda ridiculous how jacked up he is in Madden.

Good Game AllenScribe! I feel like Madden didn't like me running the ball. My team is not really set up for passing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Madden did not like you at all on the fumbles. You'd have blown me out otherwise. Then I missed two very makeable field goals. Our game was a clinic on what not to do in the redzone.
 
I tried throwing it too Jackson my HB he had one of those routes were he runs towards the sideline then comes straight back into the middle. He looked opened I threw it and his MLB I assume intercepted it. From there he drove down to about my 30ish yard line using him timeouts and no huddle.

My logic was I didn't want too score and then have him say he's running up the score. So instead I threw the ball too keep the chains moving and threw an int. Basically if I am winning like that I try not to score. I guess i'll just kick the field goals and stuff next time.
 
[quote name='GpNinja']I tried throwing it too Jackson my HB he had one of those routes were he runs towards the sideline then comes straight back into the middle. He looked opened I threw it and his MLB I assume intercepted it. From there he drove down to about my 30ish yard line using him timeouts and no huddle.

My logic was I didn't want too score and then have him say he's running up the score. So instead I threw the ball too keep the chains moving and threw an int. Basically if I am winning like that I try not to score. I guess i'll just kick the field goals and stuff next time.[/QUOTE]

Ok...if he intercepted the pass, doesn't that speak even more for why it was a stupid play to call? (regardless of the intent) How are we disagreeing here? Doesn't that basically prove that running the ball would have been the smarter move there? lol

I get that you were trying to end the game without scoring at all...but that's what I mean. Not trying to run up the score shouldn't force you to do something stupid. Passing it in that instance is just a very aggressive play call...and as you saw, when it backfires, it actually creates trouble for you. The "play like a real coach" mentality would be going with the safe play. This might just blow your mind, but trying to pass it on 3rd down to pick up the 1st down is probably going to be viewed as being more aggressive than just running it and kicking the field goal. Think about it. Instead of saying "I'm going to score 3 more points", you're basically saying "I'm not going to give you the ball back."
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I can understand going for the first in that instance.[/QUOTE]

I don't understand the gain. You're up 21 and in field goal range with less than three minutes left, why not just take the three points instead of pushing it? What's the rationale (I'm not being rhetorical or accusatory, I'm curious)?
 
[quote name='Blade3D']I can understand going for the first in that instance.[/QUOTE]

Well, with all those reasons to support your argument, how could we disagree with you? :lol:
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Ok...if he intercepted the pass, doesn't that speak even more for why it was a stupid play to call? (regardless of the intent) How are we disagreeing here? Doesn't that basically prove that running the ball would have been the smarter move there? lol

I get that you were trying to end the game without scoring at all...but that's what I mean. Not trying to run up the score shouldn't force you to do something stupid. Passing it in that instance is just a very aggressive play call...and as you saw, when it backfires, it actually creates trouble for you. The "play like a real coach" mentality would be going with the safe play. This might just blow your mind, but trying to pass it on 3rd down to pick up the 1st down is probably going to be viewed as being more aggressive than just running it and kicking the field goal. Think about it. Instead of saying "I'm going to score 3 more points", you're basically saying "I'm not going to give you the ball back."[/QUOTE]

I would have never considered a FG in that situation as running up the score, i was expecting that you would run it so of course im going to stack the box, but i know that would leave me vulnerable to a quick pass but i just felt that in that situation it was almost a give it all up to stop the run so the clock keeps moving. Granted i know you knew you had my number especially on the short passes and about 90% of the time you would have completed it, but i just didnt feel that it was the way "a real nfl coach" would have called that in any situation.

And really the only reason i even thought of using my time outs that last drive was because you went for the pass there, i knew i had no chance of coming back at that point and was content just playing a bit smarter and even letting the clock run, it wasn't going to get me anywhere putting up 1 score and leaving a minute on the clock.

Either way, you smacked me, threw the ball all over my defense and i applaud you for that, so i do want to give you credit, in that you are a better player than me and did deserve the win. gg sir
 
ya, I would have taken the field goal knowing that in madden what would most likely happen to me is pick six, onside recovered against me, deep play action TD, onside recovered again and a lucky bomb to the end zone to push us into overtime where I would get beat after throwing a ball off my receivers hands that is turned in to a 90 yard pick six for the win.
 
well now that the 2 toughest people in my schedule i played already im hoping to start winning some game in this league. 1-2 isnt a good start at all i was hoping that i would win wither against the titans or 49ers but that wasnt meant to be it seems.
 
[quote name='DVO21'] 1-2 isnt a good start at all i was hoping that i would win wither against the titans or 49ers but that wasnt meant to be it seems.[/QUOTE]

Tell that to the Denver Broncos!
 
[quote name='Wpark83']Tell that to the Denver Broncos![/QUOTE]

Huh? Edit: Sorry you mean the real Broncos, not mine. Never mind.

Also, if anyone has been following "The Ty Warren Indecent", I figured out how to drop him. I used the website, hopefully it actually goes through. Just a note: DO NOT SIGN TY WARREN, HE IS PERMANENTLY INJURED.
 
jza, Again Im sorry for playing last night without checking the thread. I was so worried about being late for my game with Konfusion (freaking wife had a bachelor watch party from 7-9) that I didnt even think about the trade going through! Do we have to wait until next week again? On a positive I did get some good points for Walter for you.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']jza, Again Im sorry for playing last night without checking the thread. I was so worried about being late for my game with Konfusion (freaking wife had a bachelor watch party from 7-9) that I didnt even think about the trade going through! Do we have to wait until next week again? On a positive I did get some good points for Walter for you.[/QUOTE]

Your wife had a bachelor party? :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Back again with another proposal, this time between the Bucs and Ravens.


Bucs send

RB Doug Martin: 24 years old
86 OVR
87 SPD
95 ACC
83 ELU
84 CAR

contract:

3 years remaining, $3.2 M bonus

2013: $1.56 M
2014: $1.78 M
2015: $2.08 M


WR Vincent Jackson:

88 OVR
88 CTH
94 CIT
88 RTE
95 RLS
90 SPD
86 AWR

4 years remaining, $25 M bonus
2013: $9.31 M
2014: $10.61 M
2015: $12.29 M
2016: $14.47 M

Team cap space: $1.98 M

Ravens send

RB Ray Rice: 26 years old

96 OVR
91 SPD
97 ACC
93 ELU
95 CAR

2 years remaining, $7.66 M bonus

2013: $5.21 M
2014: $9.32 M

Ravens 2nd round pick

Ravens cap space: $13.87 M

Please let me know if you need anything else![/QUOTE]

Trade Rejected

Again, another trade that didn't even need to be voted on. You guys gotta start doing the math yourselves to make sure these deals are even possible.

Bucs Cap Space: $1.98M
Doug Martin 2013 Salary: +$1.56M
Vincent Jackson 2013 Salary: +$9.31M

= $12.85M

Doug Martin Bonus Penalty: ($2.4M/2) -$1.2M
Vincent Jackson Bonus Penalty: ($20M/2) -$10M
Ray Rice 2013 Salary: -$5.21M

= -$3.56M

Soooo...yeah, not enough cap space.
 
[quote name='Docb9110']jza, Again Im sorry for playing last night without checking the thread. I was so worried about being late for my game with Konfusion (freaking wife had a bachelor watch party from 7-9) that I didnt even think about the trade going through! Do we have to wait until next week again? On a positive I did get some good points for Walter for you.[/QUOTE]

No big deal. I would guess we could complete after I play my week 3 game, which should be tomorrow around noon.
 
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