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Eagles beat the Cowboys.

Scrub0bk keep in mind you have players on your team besides McCoy. Good game LeSean McCoy. Scrub I'm not really impressed.

LeSean McCoy Stats:

23 rushes for 3 TDs (all rushing attempts)
5 receptions 1 td (5 out of 10 receptions)
 
Wtf. Just started up madden to play seahawks at 7pm central and it says I need to enter an online pass code to access features. Anyone else getting this from EA? I just clicked "Start free 2-day trial" so I could play. They better not be making me buy a code to keep playing
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']Wtf. Just started up madden to play seahawks at 7pm central and it says I need to enter an online pass code to access features. Anyone else getting this from EA? I just clicked "Start free 2-day trial" so I could play. They better not be making me buy a code to keep playing[/QUOTE]

ive had it happen to me its an EA server Error dont worry it took it a day for it to correct itself for me but i didnt use the 2 day free trial so im not sure if it will do the same for u or not i was just as worried and i ended up calling the XBL hotline about it and they told me about the error that was happen by the EA server
 
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[quote name='njrockpd']Eagles beat the Cowboys.

Scrub0bk keep in mind you have players on your team besides McCoy. Good game LeSean McCoy. Scrub I'm not really impressed.

LeSean McCoy Stats:

23 rushes for 3 TDs (all rushing attempts)
5 receptions 1 td (5 out of 10 receptions)[/QUOTE]

i utilize what my strengths are, and he is it. i dont trust vick one bit, and i can never find an open receiver, especially with such a weak core. if it works why shy away from it? i'm not happy that i have to use him more than i want, but i rely on him and it works some times, and not others, and this time it did
 
I don't see what the problem is with him running so much, personally. Some teams are running teams. It didn't seem like he was breaking any rules. If you don't like it, shut down his run game.
 
[quote name='Superstar']I don't see what the problem is with him running so much, personally. Some teams are running teams. It didn't seem like he was breaking any rules. If you don't like it, shut down his run game.[/QUOTE]

ya i have to agree with this some teams run alot and some pass alot. people are going to play to there style and preference to try and win games by using there best abilities
 
[quote name='DVO21']ive had it happen to me its an EA server Error dont worry it took it a day for it to correct itself for me but i didnt use the 2 day free trial so im not sure if it will do the same for u or not i was just as worried and i ended up calling the XBL hotline about it and they told me about the error that was happen by the EA server[/QUOTE]

Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'll give them a call. Nice avatar btw lol
 
How are you guys reading that as a complaint against running the ball? To me, it looked like the same discussion that has been had in here several times and in the official league as well. The game isn't as fun when one team is just spamming one player the entire game. scrub0bk's defense is that McCoy is all he has. We've had that same argument used in the past (lyric used to say that with the Rams...though his argument was a bit stronger with only having Steven Jackson). Do the Eagles still have Jackson and Maclin? I can't imagine not utilizing them just because you don't trust Vick. Isn't that basically admitting that it's easier to just do "what works in Madden", rather than trying to come up with a better offensive gameplan that gets more of your players involved?

At this point in the league, it feels pointless trying to drive home to people what "playing like a real coach" is. But I do feel like people have broken down to the lowest common denominator when it comes to running their offense. This isn't saying don't throw to the open man or don't run a particular play. But when you base your entire offense around the deficiencies in the game...it's going to take a lot of the fun out of it. It's not about winning or losing. It's about facing a completely unoriginal, uninspired, "A + B = WIN AT MADDEN" gameplan.

Having said that, I think many of us have just reached a frustration level with this game. EA made it way too easy to cheese these things. You can't do enough as a "defensive coordinator" to really stop somebody whose 1st read is a TE mismatch and 2nd read is a HB mismatch. I'm not even trying to accuse anybody of anything. It's not worth getting into. But I do feel like some of the teams having the most success have reached that point.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']
At this point in the league, it feels pointless trying to drive home to people what "playing like a real coach" is. But I do feel like people have broken down to the lowest common denominator when it comes to running their offense. This isn't saying don't throw to the open man or don't run a particular play. But when you base your entire offense around the deficiencies in the game...it's going to take a lot of the fun out of it. It's not about winning or losing. It's about facing a completely unoriginal, uninspired, "A + B = WIN AT MADDEN" gameplan.[/QUOTE]

LeSean McCoy averaged 4.5 catches per game last season in real life.
 
[quote name='DVO21']redskins have maclin not sure about jackson though[/QUOTE]

Well, that would make the "he's all I have" argument a little stronger (though that was also by his own doing), but I still think the point about diversifying your offense still stands. Honestly, I think you're a good example of this. Everybody knows you acquire a crapton of receivers, but it also gives you a lot of legitimate targets. I kind of think it's sad that when we played last season, I was much more successful defending your receivers than I was other people's rookie TE's and RB's (and that's even after switching one of my CBs with 88 man coverage to SS).

But from what I remember, you started using a different playbook, and I'm sure if we played now, things would be a lot different. You rethought your strategy. You didn't get 3 receiving TE's and a RB to spam screens to (though you do have Sproles...but I know there are people who get more out of no names than you do with him). Ultimately, I believe winning should be about who makes less mistakes. Not about who knows where the holes/exploits are. But again, my opinion is not always a popular one.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']LeSean McCoy averaged 4.5 catches per game last season in real life.[/QUOTE]

*sigh* You really want to do this, dude? What percentage of the Eagles receptions per game was that? Did he account for 50% of Vick/Foles completions? Come on, man.
 
I've played scrub0bk 3 times in my last 5 games and I think that him being called out for that is horseshit. People play their style that they like to play. Some like to pass, some like to run, and some mix it up. I have no problem with someone having a star player and utilizing him and game planning around them. I don't think the problem is "madden cheese" as much as it is "I refuse to try to find different ways to stop him". Once you decide someone is running the ball non stop, stick a LB into man coverage on the HB at all time. User a safety or a LB and keep him shadowing the strong side of the field. Do something other than come in here complaining because someone played to their teams strengths and you couldn't do shit to stop him. The TE is easy to stop, run a 3-4 D and have an OLB and an ILB on him and they will shut down the precision pass to either side. User a safety over the middle and you can cover multiple routes at once. There is cheese in Madden but at some point you can't blame every damn thing on it.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, that would make the "he's all I have" argument a little stronger (though that was also by his own doing), but I still think the point about diversifying your offense still stands. Honestly, I think you're a good example of this. Everybody knows you acquire a crapton of receivers, but it also gives you a lot of legitimate targets. I kind of think it's sad that when we played last season, I was much more successful defending your receivers than I was other people's rookie TE's and RB's (and that's even after switching one of my CBs with 88 man coverage to SS).

But from what I remember, you started using a different playbook, and I'm sure if we played now, things would be a lot different. You rethought your strategy. You didn't get 3 receiving TE's and a RB to spam screens to (though you do have Sproles...but I know there are people who get more out of no names than you do with him). Ultimately, I believe winning should be about who makes less mistakes. Not about who knows where the holes/exploits are. But again, my opinion is not always a popular one.[/QUOTE]


i think i throw to sproles 2 or 3 times a game maybe if the situation calls for it such as a big blitz or a designed RB throw to play which there aren't just screen passes designed for RBs to get the pass. i usually stick to throwing to WRs like u said mostly becuz i love WRs but i think TE Gresham gets 10 to 15 catches a season. i try my hardest to play the game as clean as possible i usually win my games on defense waiting for a team to make a mistake to capitalize on. if my defense wasnt so good i wouldnt have the record that i do my offense is pretty sloppy every now and then i find a nice flwo and mix of pass and run that works nice.

i usually will user my safeties or LBs if i think a TE pass is coming or a amoung other things as well i user certain positions depending on what im thinking is going to happen and depending on what personal i have on the field at the time. which i find it help my defense out alot. usering LBs and safeties will improve anyones defense against the run or pass no matter what they do. i think a RB screen is one of the easiest things to stop in this game now its so easy to read and stop with a LB its not even funny i've even got a few pick 6's from rb screen passes.

NEVER USER A CB: its one of the hardest positions to user in this game and will ruin ur defense and teams will pass all over u. if u only user lineman u should try to branch out to a LB or safety it will improve ur defensive skills by alot and u will see alot more stops once u get use to it. it took me a while to get use to it i was once a lineman guy and now i really feel confident in stopping anything with my defense
 
To not edit my last post if someone quotes me I just want to say that scrub0bk plays a straight up game. He likes to run, sometimes pass to his RB when he is running a route, and does 1-2 screens per game. I enjoy playing him and would play him ten times in a row and still not care about his play style because it is good playing and no cheese.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I've played scrub0bk 3 times in my last 5 games and I think that him being called out for that is horseshit. People play their style that they like to play. Some like to pass, some like to run, and some mix it up. I have no problem with someone having a star player and utilizing him and game planning around them. I don't think the problem is "madden cheese" as much as it is "I refuse to try to find different ways to stop him". Once you decide someone is running the ball non stop, stick a LB into man coverage on the HB at all time. User a safety or a LB and keep him shadowing the strong side of the field. Do something other than come in here complaining because someone played to their teams strengths and you couldn't do shit to stop him. The TE is easy to stop, run a 3-4 D and have an OLB and an ILB on him and they will shut down the precision pass to either side. User a safety over the middle and you can cover multiple routes at once. There is cheese in Madden but at some point you can't blame every damn thing on it.[/QUOTE]

A lot of what you're saying is true. If you went back to last year's thread, you would find the discussion involving Steven Jackson kind of went in the same direction. If the guy only wants to use one player for his entire offense, it SHOULD be to his detriment. Once your opponent figures out how to shut that player down, you're screwed. But ultimately, it is up to him to stop it. HOWEVER, I think this year's game limited defenses a lot more.

For RBs that are good receivers, it might not be enough to stick a LB in man coverage on them (I know my LBs couldn't do shit...most have MCV in the 60s). My guys have great ZCV ratings...but zone is also broken in a lot of formations. But if I knew that's all my opponent was doing, and he was lighting me up with the guy, I'd probably stick one of my CBs on him (nickel back or whatever). But you can't do that in Madden 13. Like I said...I mostly agree with you, it's just not quite as cut and dry this year. I hope to God they fix that with next year's game.
 
i dont have maclin anymore, just jackson.

Do i utilize mccoy alot? of course, why wouldn't I if it works. The last 3 games i played before this, i started with my run, and backfield passes and they worked, but not enough for me to win a game so i diverted from it, and i ended up throwing picks, dropped balls etc. I have no problem admitting to i use mccoy a lot, hes my best player by far. Even if i have my backup RB in the game, i run the ball, a couple games last season bryce brown had close to or more than 100 yards, and thats because i ran the ball because i like to, feel comfortable with it, and i can get it to work more than i can with passing.

I'm not even into this game that much anymore, so when i used to get frustrated with throwing picks all the time, i just accept it, because either i make a bad decision or the ball is terribly thrown. I dont see the difference in me throwing to mccoy or my RB at the time, and him throwing to his TE. Same thing, you have something that works, the purpose for the other team is to shut it down.

Troy - thank you, even though i know you're a better player than me, i always enjoy a game with you, i feel that i always get a good game out of it, sometimes the run works, sometimes it doesnt as you've seen in our games.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, that would make the "he's all I have" argument a little stronger (though that was also by his own doing), but I still think the point about diversifying your offense still stands. Honestly, I think you're a good example of this. Everybody knows you acquire a crapton of receivers, but it also gives you a lot of legitimate targets. I kind of think it's sad that when we played last season, I was much more successful defending your receivers than I was other people's rookie TE's and RB's (and that's even after switching one of my CBs with 88 man coverage to SS).

But from what I remember, you started using a different playbook, and I'm sure if we played now, things would be a lot different. You rethought your strategy. You didn't get 3 receiving TE's and a RB to spam screens to (though you do have Sproles...but I know there are people who get more out of no names than you do with him). Ultimately, I believe winning should be about who makes less mistakes. Not about who knows where the holes/exploits are. But again, my opinion is not always a popular one.[/QUOTE]

Its funny that every time you talk about the flaws of the game, its always the tight ends and running backs in the receiving game that is broken in your mind. Man coverage in this game is broken and it gives a clear advantage to the defense when defending a lot of routes. Man coverage can be beat, but sometimes you have to get creative to do so. One of the easiest ways is using a tight end or running back on a mismatch. If you are going to sit in man coverage and continue to give me those mismatches, I would be stupid to not take them. I am not stupid. Obviously you personally are aware of the advantages of man coverage. Anyone looking at the Titans roster can see that.

There is nothing wrong with a player getting 5 catches in a game. This is such a ridiculous conversation. So he only passed the ball 10 times? How many attempts did Jake Locker average in 2012? Less than 10? He had 151 attempts that season. Diversify your offense? Give me a break...
 
once i saw how big the TE problem was in this madden i took LB Howard and used him to stop it. he now has 83 man coverage and has somewhere around 90 speed and accel as well but he already had the speed and accel that shit is a waste to improve when u could use it for so much other things that are important
 
[quote name='DVO21']once i saw how big the TE problem was in this madden i took LB Howard and used him to stop it. he now has 83 man coverage and has somewhere around 90 speed and accel as well but he already had the speed and accel that shit is a waste to improve when u could use it for so much other things that are important[/QUOTE]

I've made adjustments also. I use certain formations and have improved players in certain ways to counter the TE. I had a game last season where I knew I was facing a guy who liked to throw to his TE. I adjusted my defense accordingly and I'm pretty sure I held his TE to 1 catch for less than 10 yards. I even got a pick 6 when he tried to pass to him.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']Its funny that every time you talk about the flaws of the game, its always the tight ends and running backs in the receiving game that is broken in your mind. Man coverage in this game is broken and it gives a clear advantage to the defense when defending a lot of routes. Man coverage can be beat, but sometimes you have to get creative to do so. One of the easiest ways is using a tight end or running back on a mismatch. If you are going to sit in man coverage and continue to give me those mismatches, I would be stupid to not take them. I am not stupid. Obviously you personally are aware of the advantages of man coverage. Anyone looking at the Titans roster can see that.[/QUOTE]

Wow...that's what you're selling? That there is a DEFENSIVE advantage in this game? Get out of here with that. Yes, I have 4 very good CBs (one of whom is my starting SS now because no SS or LB can cover basically ANY TE in this game). And I still get lit up in passing with these guys. What advantage do you think there is on defense? Pressing doesn't always work. If I give you soft coverage, you can run an easy curl route, etc.

But yeah, if all you want to do is throw 30 yard passes, you'll probably have trouble against them. That doesn't mean you can't call better routes, read the defense to see where safety help is going to be, etc. If your "answer" to good defensive players is "throw to the guy that Madden gave an unfair advantage to", you're no different than a ranked player. Not every fucking tight end is Rob Gronkowski. You've got a rookie beating 88 MCV Jason McCourty. WTF do you call that?
 
i cant wait to play your ravens this year both our teams really improved in the offseason its going to be a very interesting division race
 
I didn't say he was cheating. I didn't say he was an awful person I just said that 28 out of 33 offensive plays were to the same player. So 85% of his offensive plays went to McCoy, that is the definition of cheesey.

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If like in old games you had the option of putting a db on the RB then there would be no problem, but even the fastest LBs can't keep up with McCoy nor do they have the Man Coverage to keep with him if they did have the speed. That's why it's cheesey. I didn't say he deserves a strike. I did not take personal shots at him. I said I'm not impressed by his cheesey game plan. I'm not going to pretend that I like playing someone who does the same thing over and over again and give them a empty gg at the end. I'm voicing my dissatisfaction and that's it. No grudge, no threats, just voicing displeasure and going on with my day. I lost, he won. I didn't quit or anything. That's it!
 
Perdition(Troy is absolutely right there is too much bitching in here. I was frustrated after the game and went to the board too soon. There should be a 30 minute time limit before you can post after a loss. It's an imperfect game and if something works I should expect people to exploit it. Scrub0bk GG I'm sorry
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Wow...that's what you're selling? That there is a DEFENSIVE advantage in this game? Get out of here with that. Yes, I have 4 very good CBs (one of whom is my starting SS now because no SS or LB can cover basically ANY TE in this game). And I still get lit up in passing with these guys. What advantage do you think there is on defense? Pressing doesn't always work. If I give you soft coverage, you can run an easy curl route, etc.

But yeah, if all you want to do is throw 30 yard passes, you'll probably have trouble against them. That doesn't mean you can't call better routes, read the defense to see where safety help is going to be, etc. If your "answer" to good defensive players is "throw to the guy that Madden gave an unfair advantage to", you're no different than a ranked player. Not every fucking tight end is Rob Gronkowski. You've got a rookie beating 88 MCV Jason McCourty. WTF do you call that?[/QUOTE]

As someone who was one of the leaders in passing last season, I think I can comment on what works and what doesn't work. Pretty sure you can't say the same. I've had a lot of success defending TEs and DVO has said the same. If you can't make an adjustment like we have, how is that my problem? Like I have said before, I am not going to throw at my covered wideouts just to make you feel better about the game.
 
[quote name='Konfusion']As someone who was one of the leaders in passing last season, I think I can comment on what works and what doesn't work. Pretty sure you can't say the same. I've had a lot of success defending TEs and DVO has said the same. If you can't make an adjustment like we have, how is that my problem? Like I have said before, I am not going to throw at my covered wideouts just to make you feel better about the game.[/QUOTE]

Dude, just fuck you. Seriously, fuck your arrogant, self-righteous ass. You're the only fucking person in here talking about how great you are. Did I ever say I was great at this game? No. I never said a single god damned time that I expected you to throw to covered receivers. You're the one bringing that stupid shit up. But I did expect you to be smart and strategic enough to change up your routes and find ways to get your receivers open. Not bring in 2-3 TEs, move your TE all over the field, and have a RB spread wide to create trick plays and video game mismatches. If that's all you're worth, then just go piss off. I'm done dealing with you.
 
[quote name='slofton']The Falcons would like to know what this... "Defense" thing is?[/QUOTE]

lol are u kidding ive been scouting u this season since i noticed ur defense is close to leading the league this year in picks ur defense has improved a ton with that plus ur monster offense u could make a good run this year
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Dude, just fuck you. Seriously, fuck your arrogant, self-righteous ass. You're the only fucking person in here talking about how great you are. Did I ever say I was great at this game? No. I never said a single god damned time that I expected you to throw to covered receivers. You're the one bringing that stupid shit up. But I did expect you to be smart and strategic enough to change up your routes and find ways to get your receivers open. Not bring in 2-3 TEs, move your TE all over the field, and have a RB spread wide to create trick plays and video game mismatches. If that's all you're worth, then just go piss off. I'm done dealing with you.[/QUOTE]

You're the only person who has ever accused me of being a dirty player and you came in here saying that I did some things that I didn't do. I have already addressed all this. I never said I was great. I haven't attempted to play in the other league because I don't consider myself a good enough player. My comment on being a passing leader was only because you seemed so sure about how passing works in this game, yet you don't seem to be very good at it yourself. You can continue to believe whatever you want. I really don't care.
 
[quote name='DVO21']lol are u kidding ive been scouting u this season since i noticed ur defense is close to leading the league this year in picks ur defense has improved a ton with that plus ur monster offense u could make a good run this year[/QUOTE]

You mean a good "pass" at this season :D

It also helps that I've been able to play all my games so far.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']It's just a different way of viewing the game. Might as well be Hatfields and McCoys in here. Ha...McCoys. How fitting. :whistle2:s[/QUOTE]
i dated a hatfield, she had a short temper....
 
Wife is in the hospital (shes okay though) so I will be here a few days. I am not sure how long - so please put me on auto.
 
[quote name='njrockpd']It is quite quiet.[/QUOTE]

Lol i was on my phone when i typed it must have been going to fast with the thumbs
 
Блейд изобразил восхищение точь-в-точь как папуас, впервые в жизни увидевший с кровати, мальчик. Ты не разведешь огонь? гадания приворотыгадания привороты
 
bengals still looking for a WR if anyones looking to trade one away
 
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[quote name='DVO21']jags still looking for a WR if anyones looking to trade one away[/QUOTE]

Haha...having flashbacks to last year's Madden? You're the Bengals...
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Haha...having flashbacks to last year's Madden? You're the Bengals...[/QUOTE]

lol that was such a horrible year for me... i was looking at there team on madden when i typed it and didnt even noticed i typed the wrong team its funny how the brain works ur thinking one thing looking at another and type the wrong shit

i cant believe how well dark rider is doing with them in the official league i can barely do anything with the falcons over there but my division is insanely good so that doesnt help me at all.
 
looks like the bengals found a trading partner quicker than they expected hoping i can find another as well if possible
 
[quote name='DVO21']lol that was such a horrible year for me... i was looking at there team on madden when i typed it and didnt even noticed i typed the wrong team its funny how the brain works ur thinking one thing looking at another and type the wrong shit

i cant believe how well dark rider is doing with them in the official league i can barely do anything with the falcons over there but my division is insanely good so that doesnt help me at all.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I have put a lot in to that team. I had to cut and rebuild so much. It's in a pretty good spot. I basically just built that team from the ground up based around Maurice Jones-Drew (HB) and Daryl Smith (MLB). It was not an overnight transition for sure.
 
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