CAGLS: Madden 13 Gentlemen's League - We Finished! Thanks for Playing!
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Texans beat the non-CPU Falcons 38 - 14. I'd like to say I got Madden'd, but I didn't lol Played decently expect for a few bad choices. Doc's offence is damn good. Enjoyed playing against him.
Also, sorry for taking so long. It was damn hard to wake up lol
Also, sorry for taking so long. It was damn hard to wake up lol
GpNinja
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Just played bakenator11 he won 35-28. Only thing that I saw that would have gotten called out forsure is. He went for 4th and 11 on my 40ish yard line during the second quater I believe,he scored on that play. So besides me forgetting to pick my play books and that 4th down pass. I think the outcome could have been different. He played with the Cowboys I played with the Bills. If he can stick around he will be a good addition and forsure he'll be able to compete and make it too the playoffs.
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[quote name='JoelyPoley']A friend of mine would like to take over the Dolphins. He just joined the forum today but of course can't post yet. CAG name is Jbake_11 and Xbox name is bakenator11.[/QUOTE]
[quote name='GpNinja']I play the dolphins. Tell him to pm me when he can.[/QUOTE]
People really need to start reading the thread before posting. At least read the page you're posting on. In the future, I'm just going to start ignoring these posts. If you can't follow along and keep up, you're wasting my time. Not being a dick, but we're all adults here. A certain level of awareness is to be expected.
[quote name='njrockpd']Do we have a Maddendaddy.com website for this league?[/QUOTE]
No, we do not. I think Dark Rider mentioned setting one up (if I'm remembering correctly). But I haven't heard anything about it since then.
[quote name='GamerDude316']As someone who joined a team toward the end of last season, I definitely agree with this too going forward. Nothing worse than an owner coming in at the end of the season ,making big roster moves like the Dolphins did with Wallace and Jennings, and then leaving. I know Wpark's a good guy and that wasnt his intent originally, but its still a bad pattern for the league.[/QUOTE]
Well, the Wpark situation isn't completely applicable. For one, he's a long-time CAG that several people in this league have played in leagues with for years. He also took the Dolphins at the beginning of this season (remember, Chetty had them before), and yeah...he signed a few big players through free agency, but that was really it. With the Dolphins losing Reggie Bush, it's probably good that they were able to pick up a few weapons.
Having said that, it's really nearly impossible to predict who may drop from the league at any moment. Honestly, my reluctance for accepting new members when we're this far into the season has more to do with trying to reward current members for their hard work and dedication...and also giving us a chance to see what type of member the new applicant would be.
Part of it is how they play. Forgive me for saying it, but part of it is also making sure they're not just going to be a huge pain in the ass. If people want to say that makes this league "elitist", whatever. I want worthwhile members in this league, and I'm at the point that I'd rather have CPU teams than people who cause trouble. I HOPE that is something that actually becomes a positive attribute for us, and something that encourages new members to join because they see how seriously it's being taken. This game screws people bad enough sometimes. We definitely don't want our members doing it to each other too.
[quote name='GpNinja']Just played bakenator11 he won 35-28. Only thing that I saw that would have gotten called out forsure is. He went for 4th and 11 on my 40ish yard line during the second quater I believe,he scored on that play. So besides me forgetting to pick my play books and that 4th down pass. I think the outcome could have been different. He played with the Cowboys I played with the Bills. If he can stick around he will be a good addition and forsure he'll be able to compete and make it too the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I don't think that's too crazy. Expecting him to kick a 57 yard field goal is unreasonable. So...that leaves him with punting at your 40 and possibly only gaining 20 yards. The fact that it was a 4th and 11 makes it a little muddier, but we've discussed situations like this before. He was really in no man's land.
[quote name='GpNinja']I play the dolphins. Tell him to pm me when he can.[/QUOTE]
People really need to start reading the thread before posting. At least read the page you're posting on. In the future, I'm just going to start ignoring these posts. If you can't follow along and keep up, you're wasting my time. Not being a dick, but we're all adults here. A certain level of awareness is to be expected.
[quote name='njrockpd']Do we have a Maddendaddy.com website for this league?[/QUOTE]
No, we do not. I think Dark Rider mentioned setting one up (if I'm remembering correctly). But I haven't heard anything about it since then.
[quote name='GamerDude316']As someone who joined a team toward the end of last season, I definitely agree with this too going forward. Nothing worse than an owner coming in at the end of the season ,making big roster moves like the Dolphins did with Wallace and Jennings, and then leaving. I know Wpark's a good guy and that wasnt his intent originally, but its still a bad pattern for the league.[/QUOTE]
Well, the Wpark situation isn't completely applicable. For one, he's a long-time CAG that several people in this league have played in leagues with for years. He also took the Dolphins at the beginning of this season (remember, Chetty had them before), and yeah...he signed a few big players through free agency, but that was really it. With the Dolphins losing Reggie Bush, it's probably good that they were able to pick up a few weapons.
Having said that, it's really nearly impossible to predict who may drop from the league at any moment. Honestly, my reluctance for accepting new members when we're this far into the season has more to do with trying to reward current members for their hard work and dedication...and also giving us a chance to see what type of member the new applicant would be.
Part of it is how they play. Forgive me for saying it, but part of it is also making sure they're not just going to be a huge pain in the ass. If people want to say that makes this league "elitist", whatever. I want worthwhile members in this league, and I'm at the point that I'd rather have CPU teams than people who cause trouble. I HOPE that is something that actually becomes a positive attribute for us, and something that encourages new members to join because they see how seriously it's being taken. This game screws people bad enough sometimes. We definitely don't want our members doing it to each other too.
[quote name='GpNinja']Just played bakenator11 he won 35-28. Only thing that I saw that would have gotten called out forsure is. He went for 4th and 11 on my 40ish yard line during the second quater I believe,he scored on that play. So besides me forgetting to pick my play books and that 4th down pass. I think the outcome could have been different. He played with the Cowboys I played with the Bills. If he can stick around he will be a good addition and forsure he'll be able to compete and make it too the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I don't think that's too crazy. Expecting him to kick a 57 yard field goal is unreasonable. So...that leaves him with punting at your 40 and possibly only gaining 20 yards. The fact that it was a 4th and 11 makes it a little muddier, but we've discussed situations like this before. He was really in no man's land.
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']
Well, the Wpark situation isn't completely applicable. For one, he's a long-time CAG that several people in this league have played in leagues with for years. He also took the Dolphins at the beginning of this season (remember, Chetty had them before), and yeah...he signed a few big players through free agency, but that was really it. With the Dolphins losing Reggie Bush, it's probably good that they were able to pick up a few weapons.
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Oh yeah, dont get me wrong I dont mean to pick on him at all. He's definitely a good user who I had good experiences with both in this league and the NHL league, just using him as an example of a potentially unfortunate pattern we dont want to see with owners making big moves and then dropping.
In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.
Well, the Wpark situation isn't completely applicable. For one, he's a long-time CAG that several people in this league have played in leagues with for years. He also took the Dolphins at the beginning of this season (remember, Chetty had them before), and yeah...he signed a few big players through free agency, but that was really it. With the Dolphins losing Reggie Bush, it's probably good that they were able to pick up a few weapons.
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Oh yeah, dont get me wrong I dont mean to pick on him at all. He's definitely a good user who I had good experiences with both in this league and the NHL league, just using him as an example of a potentially unfortunate pattern we dont want to see with owners making big moves and then dropping.
In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.
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[quote name='GamerDude316']Oh yeah, dont get me wrong I dont mean to pick on him at all. He's definitely a good user who I had good experiences with both in this league and the NHL league, just using him as an example of a potentially unfortunate pattern we dont want to see with owners making big moves and then dropping.
In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but what play do you call there? I think a coach would maybe call a fake FG...but if you're going to do that, you might as well just go for it. My thought is basically that you're going for it with the expectation that you probably won't covert it. The point is just that you're also not sacrificing much.
It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too.
I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.
In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but what play do you call there? I think a coach would maybe call a fake FG...but if you're going to do that, you might as well just go for it. My thought is basically that you're going for it with the expectation that you probably won't covert it. The point is just that you're also not sacrificing much.
It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too.
I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Yeah, but what play do you call there? I think a coach would maybe call a fake FG...but if you're going to do that, you might as well just go for it. My thought is basically that you're going for it with the expectation that you probably won't covert it. The point is just that you're also not sacrificing much.
It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too.
I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.[/QUOTE]
Well I think in real life a coach would punt the ball to force the opponent to start inside their own 20 (if you have a half decent punter anyway) since they're treating the game as a battle of field position at that point in the game. Going for it on a 4th and 11 just screams video-gamey Madden logic to me. I've been watching the NFL close to 20 years and I have NEVER seen a team do that in the first half...so it doesnt seem realistic at all.
It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too.
I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.[/QUOTE]
Well I think in real life a coach would punt the ball to force the opponent to start inside their own 20 (if you have a half decent punter anyway) since they're treating the game as a battle of field position at that point in the game. Going for it on a 4th and 11 just screams video-gamey Madden logic to me. I've been watching the NFL close to 20 years and I have NEVER seen a team do that in the first half...so it doesnt seem realistic at all.
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tried setting up a madden daddy league site, ill post the url if it gets approved.
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kody meyer out for 3 weeks. maybe skelton will stay if i put meyer on IR
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I dont see anything wrong with the 4th and 11 since a fake FG from there wouldve been acceptable. The only exception would be if he saw you in punt return formation and hiked the ball while your defense is getting into position after an audible. I think if a team comes out in fg block or punt return on an unexpected 4th down or 2pt conversion attempt, it's just a nice gesture for the offense to wait and not be cheap. Not sure if that was the case or not.
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thank god i brought up concussions not RTC tears
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[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']I dont see anything wrong with the 4th and 11 since a fake FG from there wouldve been acceptable. The only exception would be if he saw you in punt return formation and hiked the ball while your defense is getting into position after an audible. I think if a team comes out in fg block or punt return on an unexpected 4th down or 2pt conversion attempt, it's just a nice gesture for the offense to wait and not be cheap. Not sure if that was the case or not.[/QUOTE]
I still don't see how ya'll see it. Lol the way I see it is I'll just punt and pin them on like the 10. If I don't convert there like 25 yards away from field goal range.
I still don't see how ya'll see it. Lol the way I see it is I'll just punt and pin them on like the 10. If I don't convert there like 25 yards away from field goal range.
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Games left:
Bucs vs Panthers (set for Sunday afternoon)
Saints vs Titans
Vikings vs Cowboys
Packers vs Giants
Jaguars vs Colts
Bucs vs Panthers (set for Sunday afternoon)
Saints vs Titans
Vikings vs Cowboys
Packers vs Giants
Jaguars vs Colts
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Good game against the Bucs this afternoon. Frank Gore led the way on offense while 4 INTs on defense sealed the game. Panthers 35 Bucs 10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixBYrgTl404
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixBYrgTl404
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yeah good game man...so many missed tackles by my LBs in this one. Several times I had Gore behind the line or close to it and he still broke a solid gain. Definitely missing Henderson out there. I had some success with Rice but you took Knox out pretty early with that injury which narrowed my passing game and I made some really crappy throws afterwards. That 2nd INT was brutal.
I'm now 4-6 and looking at my schedule the rest of the way its gonna be hard to even make .500. Saints twice, Texans, Packers, Lions at the end...ugh.
I'm now 4-6 and looking at my schedule the rest of the way its gonna be hard to even make .500. Saints twice, Texans, Packers, Lions at the end...ugh.
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Well, the first criteria for this league is members reading and keeping up with the thread. I gave a fairly detailed opinion on it near the top of this page.[/QUOTE]
I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.
I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.
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[quote name='Mile High Von']I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.[/QUOTE]
Maybe just stick to the other league if you are having issues accepting the way our league commissioner feels. The way we are seeming to move forward is waiting until next season to have new players join. Either have patience and join up then or just don't commit to playing in this league. It is a waiting game at this point.
Maybe just stick to the other league if you are having issues accepting the way our league commissioner feels. The way we are seeming to move forward is waiting until next season to have new players join. Either have patience and join up then or just don't commit to playing in this league. It is a waiting game at this point.
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[quote name='Mile High Von']I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.[/QUOTE]
i know its frustrating but unfortunately n8 feels the way he does for very good reason. we've had some people who come in, and messed up a team then jet. I personally am not worried about you because I am in the other league and i've never seen anyone having a problem with you. But the commish is cautious for very good reason (especially considering we'll be at week 12 very soon.
i know its frustrating but unfortunately n8 feels the way he does for very good reason. we've had some people who come in, and messed up a team then jet. I personally am not worried about you because I am in the other league and i've never seen anyone having a problem with you. But the commish is cautious for very good reason (especially considering we'll be at week 12 very soon.
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[quote name='Mile High Von']I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.[/QUOTE]
You read where I gave my detailed reasoning for not wanting to bring in new members this late in the season, but you still feel the need to ask why? Multiple people even went on to reply and support the decision. If you can't grasp that, I don't know what to tell you.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.
You read where I gave my detailed reasoning for not wanting to bring in new members this late in the season, but you still feel the need to ask why? Multiple people even went on to reply and support the decision. If you can't grasp that, I don't know what to tell you.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.
Wouldn't it be a good idea to just take the open teams out of the thread title and just have them in the OP till maybe week 15-playoff time? That way it's not advertising like we want people right now, and can do it closer to when people actually can join if waiting is what you want.
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We could have people join and just have the teams on autopilot so the cpu doesn't do anything. I think that would be a good idea and we could get more people on the waiting list by keeping the teams "open." So if the people on autopilot decide to leave we could just replace them.
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']You read where I gave my detailed reasoning for not wanting to bring in new members this late in the season, but you still feel the need to ask why? Multiple people even went on to reply and support the decision. If you can't grasp that, I don't know what to tell you.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you are saying, I do. I just don't feel like disagreeing with a decisio to have CPU users anyway reflects my attitude toward you or the league. I also have no clue what you are talking about in terms of having a disagreement with BV as I have never done that. I never once told people how to do someone or to change the rules to any league. I thought you would be interested in active users to add to the league and you clearly have an interest or you would not have posted in the league title that teams were open. I hope where you can see that actions sends some mixed signals.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you are saying, I do. I just don't feel like disagreeing with a decisio to have CPU users anyway reflects my attitude toward you or the league. I also have no clue what you are talking about in terms of having a disagreement with BV as I have never done that. I never once told people how to do someone or to change the rules to any league. I thought you would be interested in active users to add to the league and you clearly have an interest or you would not have posted in the league title that teams were open. I hope where you can see that actions sends some mixed signals.
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[quote name='KasterDB']Njrock, if you read this, I'm on my phone, my Internet is out for some reason; no one on my floor in my building has Internet right now. I'm hoping it'll be fixed soon but I'm being told it won't be dealt with until tomorrow morning. Sorry 
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Man we need to help you start a petition to get your IT Director fired lol. I sent him a message on xbl to check cag for you.
[/QUOTE]Man we need to help you start a petition to get your IT Director fired lol. I sent him a message on xbl to check cag for you.
[quote name='KasterDB']Njrock, if you read this, I'm on my phone, my Internet is out for some reason; no one on my floor in my building has Internet right now. I'm hoping it'll be fixed soon but I'm being told it won't be dealt with until tomorrow morning. Sorry [/QUOTE]
Got it. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe tomorrow. And thanks to Troy for the heads up as well.
[/QUOTE]Got it. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe tomorrow. And thanks to Troy for the heads up as well.
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[quote name='perdition(troy']Man we need to help you start a petition to get your IT Director fired lol. I sent him a message on xbl to check cag for you.[/QUOTE]
No doubt! It's ridiculous. Thanks for the assist.
[quote name='njrockpd']Got it. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe tomorrow. And thanks to Troy for the heads up as well.[/QUOTE]
Cool. I'm open tomorrow all afternoon, but I need to start a game no later than 4:50 EST. If that doesn't work, you can play the CPU.
No doubt! It's ridiculous. Thanks for the assist.
[quote name='njrockpd']Got it. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe tomorrow. And thanks to Troy for the heads up as well.[/QUOTE]
Cool. I'm open tomorrow all afternoon, but I need to start a game no later than 4:50 EST. If that doesn't work, you can play the CPU.
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']You read where I gave my detailed reasoning for not wanting to bring in new members this late in the season, but you still feel the need to ask why? Multiple people even went on to reply and support the decision. If you can't grasp that, I don't know what to tell you.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.[/QUOTE]
I dont have any comment on the rest of this, but in regard to the Manning/Haden trade, I dont blame him for having any gripes about that. Reading up on that trade, BV screwed over the Browns bigtime there. Whether he intended to or not is debatable but theres no doubt they did get screwed over trading their franchise CB for an aging QB who didnt even finish a full season and then retired. I'd be griping about that too if I had taken over the Browns so I dont really blame him there.
[quote name='Blade3D']Wouldn't it be a good idea to just take the open teams out of the thread title and just have them in the OP till maybe week 15-playoff time? That way it's not advertising like we want people right now, and can do it closer to when people actually can join if waiting is what you want.[/QUOTE]
I'd agree with this. If you want to leave the teams open until the end of the season, it would be good to not have them listed as open right now to avoid any further confusion.
But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.[/QUOTE]
I dont have any comment on the rest of this, but in regard to the Manning/Haden trade, I dont blame him for having any gripes about that. Reading up on that trade, BV screwed over the Browns bigtime there. Whether he intended to or not is debatable but theres no doubt they did get screwed over trading their franchise CB for an aging QB who didnt even finish a full season and then retired. I'd be griping about that too if I had taken over the Browns so I dont really blame him there.
[quote name='Blade3D']Wouldn't it be a good idea to just take the open teams out of the thread title and just have them in the OP till maybe week 15-playoff time? That way it's not advertising like we want people right now, and can do it closer to when people actually can join if waiting is what you want.[/QUOTE]
I'd agree with this. If you want to leave the teams open until the end of the season, it would be good to not have them listed as open right now to avoid any further confusion.
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[quote name='Blade3D']Wouldn't it be a good idea to just take the open teams out of the thread title and just have them in the OP till maybe week 15-playoff time? That way it's not advertising like we want people right now, and can do it closer to when people actually can join if waiting is what you want.[/QUOTE]
That's not a bad idea. My only thought was I don't mind people inquiring about the teams, as long as they don't mind waiting. Like I said, at this point, people need to prove they're going to be valuable members. I've just had my fill of people joining and playing 3 games and quitting, or joining and trying to cause trouble. It's not worth the effort to put up with assclowns just so we don't have a CPU team. That's not the kind of league I want to run anymore.
[quote name='GpNinja']We could have people join and just have the teams on autopilot so the cpu doesn't do anything. I think that would be a good idea and we could get more people on the waiting list by keeping the teams "open." So if the people on autopilot decide to leave we could just replace them.[/QUOTE]
Ehh...we definitely wouldn't be doing that any time soon. Maybe at the end of the season...or in the playoffs, for sure. But letting people in now would just lead to "Can I play yet? Can I?? Can I??????"...and aint nobody got time for dat, lol.
[quote name='Mile High Von']I understand what you are saying, I do. I just don't feel like disagreeing with a decisio to have CPU users anyway reflects my attitude toward you or the league. I also have no clue what you are talking about in terms of having a disagreement with BV as I have never done that. I never once told people how to do someone or to change the rules to any league. I thought you would be interested in active users to add to the league and you clearly have an interest or you would not have posted in the league title that teams were open. I hope where you can see that actions sends some mixed signals.[/QUOTE]
You're right. It's totally my mistake. Still doesn't change anything.
[quote name='GamerDude316']I dont have any comment on the rest of this, but in regard to the Manning/Haden trade, I dont blame him for having any gripes about that. Reading up on that trade, BV screwed over the Browns bigtime there. Whether he intended to or not is debatable but theres no doubt they did get screwed over trading their franchise CB for an aging QB who didnt even finish a full season and then retired. I'd be griping about that too if I had taken over the Browns so I dont really blame him there.[/QUOTE]
Except that it's not like it was a trade that was done under the radar or is something that can be undone. What does bitching about it accomplish? A person either wants the team or they don't.
That's not a bad idea. My only thought was I don't mind people inquiring about the teams, as long as they don't mind waiting. Like I said, at this point, people need to prove they're going to be valuable members. I've just had my fill of people joining and playing 3 games and quitting, or joining and trying to cause trouble. It's not worth the effort to put up with assclowns just so we don't have a CPU team. That's not the kind of league I want to run anymore.
[quote name='GpNinja']We could have people join and just have the teams on autopilot so the cpu doesn't do anything. I think that would be a good idea and we could get more people on the waiting list by keeping the teams "open." So if the people on autopilot decide to leave we could just replace them.[/QUOTE]
Ehh...we definitely wouldn't be doing that any time soon. Maybe at the end of the season...or in the playoffs, for sure. But letting people in now would just lead to "Can I play yet? Can I?? Can I??????"...and aint nobody got time for dat, lol.
[quote name='Mile High Von']I understand what you are saying, I do. I just don't feel like disagreeing with a decisio to have CPU users anyway reflects my attitude toward you or the league. I also have no clue what you are talking about in terms of having a disagreement with BV as I have never done that. I never once told people how to do someone or to change the rules to any league. I thought you would be interested in active users to add to the league and you clearly have an interest or you would not have posted in the league title that teams were open. I hope where you can see that actions sends some mixed signals.[/QUOTE]
You're right. It's totally my mistake. Still doesn't change anything.
[quote name='GamerDude316']I dont have any comment on the rest of this, but in regard to the Manning/Haden trade, I dont blame him for having any gripes about that. Reading up on that trade, BV screwed over the Browns bigtime there. Whether he intended to or not is debatable but theres no doubt they did get screwed over trading their franchise CB for an aging QB who didnt even finish a full season and then retired. I'd be griping about that too if I had taken over the Browns so I dont really blame him there.[/QUOTE]
Except that it's not like it was a trade that was done under the radar or is something that can be undone. What does bitching about it accomplish? A person either wants the team or they don't.
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[quote name='neworlbush25']Me and darktower trying to get in our game before tonight (colts vs jags)[/QUOTE]
I hope you are trying to get it in tonight because today is the last day
I hope you are trying to get it in tonight because today is the last day
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Well he just told me that he wont be back from work until 9pm MST... which is 11 pm est??
I dono if your willing to wait that long or no.. If not I guess we will have to be okay with a sim
I dono if your willing to wait that long or no.. If not I guess we will have to be okay with a sim
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I don't think anyone will mind that, n8 can just do the advance in the morning. The deadline is at the end of the night after all
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[quote name='perdition(troy']I don't think anyone will mind that, n8 can just do the advance in the morning. The deadline is at the end of the night after all [/QUOTE]
True, no specific time. I just dont wanna be holdin things up!
[/QUOTE]True, no specific time. I just dont wanna be holdin things up!
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I don't think anybody will mind as long as you guys have a set time tonight.
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[quote name='GamerDude316']I don't think anybody will mind as long as you guys have a set time tonight.[/QUOTE]
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Yeah, that time is fine. Just means I won't be able to advance us until tomorrow morning. Superstar and I aren't playing our game until this evening anyway.
And really, I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but the couple times we have advanced early, it really hasn't helped much. We've done it a few times, and then the following week, we end up taking the full amount of time anyway (ie. 4+ days). So, it's not putting us any further ahead.
And really, I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but the couple times we have advanced early, it really hasn't helped much. We've done it a few times, and then the following week, we end up taking the full amount of time anyway (ie. 4+ days). So, it's not putting us any further ahead.
[quote name='GamerDude316']I dont have any comment on the rest of this, but in regard to the Manning/Haden trade, I dont blame him for having any gripes about that. Reading up on that trade, BV screwed over the Browns bigtime there. Whether he intended to or not is debatable but theres no doubt they did get screwed over trading their franchise CB for an aging QB who didnt even finish a full season and then retired. I'd be griping about that too if I had taken over the Browns so I dont really blame him there.
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Just for the record, he screwed himself (and subsequent owners) over by not investing in the QB Retirement Package for Manning. So if there was any one to blame for the roster situation, it was the Browns owner, not me. That trade was made in good faith and passed through the trade committee voting process (with me not voting), so there really wasn't anything untoward. When Manning came back out of retirement, we let the Browns sign him. Mile High Von didn't do anything out of line in bitching about his roster situation, as I recall the only thing I took exception to was him calling the original owner an idiot or something like that. He wasn't an idiot, just negligent.
Anyway, not a big deal, just figured I'd weigh in since my name got brought up.
For the record, I think n8's policy regarding waiting until the end of the season to fill these teams makes perfect sense. Having people joining up late can definitely upset the playoff balance, and if someone is truly committed they won't mind waiting until the end of the season. As for the CPU being too easy, that's definitely true, but owners joining late don't always give it their best effort. Witness Hemingway who took over a crappy Bucs team in season 1 in the other league, basically tanked out the year and then won the Super Bowl in season 2. So it cuts both ways, and I don't think there's anything wrong with approaching new owners with prudence. That's something I wish we did a little more in the other league too. We've left spots open until the offseason several times, and I've never felt after the fact that it was the wrong decision.
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Just for the record, he screwed himself (and subsequent owners) over by not investing in the QB Retirement Package for Manning. So if there was any one to blame for the roster situation, it was the Browns owner, not me. That trade was made in good faith and passed through the trade committee voting process (with me not voting), so there really wasn't anything untoward. When Manning came back out of retirement, we let the Browns sign him. Mile High Von didn't do anything out of line in bitching about his roster situation, as I recall the only thing I took exception to was him calling the original owner an idiot or something like that. He wasn't an idiot, just negligent.
Anyway, not a big deal, just figured I'd weigh in since my name got brought up.
For the record, I think n8's policy regarding waiting until the end of the season to fill these teams makes perfect sense. Having people joining up late can definitely upset the playoff balance, and if someone is truly committed they won't mind waiting until the end of the season. As for the CPU being too easy, that's definitely true, but owners joining late don't always give it their best effort. Witness Hemingway who took over a crappy Bucs team in season 1 in the other league, basically tanked out the year and then won the Super Bowl in season 2. So it cuts both ways, and I don't think there's anything wrong with approaching new owners with prudence. That's something I wish we did a little more in the other league too. We've left spots open until the offseason several times, and I've never felt after the fact that it was the wrong decision.
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Do those retirement packages even work? Every offline league I've done has guys on my team retire even if I bought the package for their position.
[quote name='GamerDude316']Do those retirement packages even work? Every offline league I've done has guys on my team retire even if I bought the package for their position.[/QUOTE]
I assume they work for what they're intended to do, which is to reduce the chance a guy retires, though given you can't see the odds it could very well just be a placebo. It's certainly not an ironclad guarantee that they won't retire anyway. The CB Retirement Package was the first thing I bought though, and against all odds Champ Bailey is still playing in season 3 and just asked me for a new contract.
Edit: This is Madden though, so there's always the chance they do absolutely nothing.
I assume they work for what they're intended to do, which is to reduce the chance a guy retires, though given you can't see the odds it could very well just be a placebo. It's certainly not an ironclad guarantee that they won't retire anyway. The CB Retirement Package was the first thing I bought though, and against all odds Champ Bailey is still playing in season 3 and just asked me for a new contract.
Edit: This is Madden though, so there's always the chance they do absolutely nothing.
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[quote name='bvharris']I assume they work for what they're intended to do, which is to reduce the chance a guy retires, though given you can't see the odds it could very well just be a placebo. It's certainly not an ironclad guarantee that they won't retire anyway. The CB Retirement Package was the first thing I bought though, and against all odds Champ Bailey is still playing in season 3 and just asked me for a new contract.
Edit: This is Madden though, so there's always the chance they do absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they never work in offline leagues for me and when I went to buy the FS retirement package for Ronde Barber in year 1 of this league, I saw it wasnt available so I assume the owner before me bought it. Lot of good it did since Barber retired. I just think the "should have bought the retirement package" argument is flimsy whenever an owner brings that up. That's not directed at you, just in general my feelings on trading an aging player in this game. I understand the win now approach and you can certainly make the argument that years dont even matter much in Madden (since 90% of online leagues never make it out of the first season), its just not a preference for me seeing how disastrous its turned out in other leagues I'm in.
Edit: This is Madden though, so there's always the chance they do absolutely nothing.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, they never work in offline leagues for me and when I went to buy the FS retirement package for Ronde Barber in year 1 of this league, I saw it wasnt available so I assume the owner before me bought it. Lot of good it did since Barber retired. I just think the "should have bought the retirement package" argument is flimsy whenever an owner brings that up. That's not directed at you, just in general my feelings on trading an aging player in this game. I understand the win now approach and you can certainly make the argument that years dont even matter much in Madden (since 90% of online leagues never make it out of the first season), its just not a preference for me seeing how disastrous its turned out in other leagues I'm in.
[quote name='GamerDude316']I just think the "should have bought the retirement package" argument is flimsy whenever an owner brings that up. That's not directed at you, just in general my feelings on trading an aging player in this game. [/QUOTE]
That something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's not a smart thing to do. To carry that to the extreme of the argument, it would be like saying "condoms sometimes break so why bother wearing one?" That a player might retire even with the package doesn't mean that "should have bought the retirement package" is suddenly poor advice. Trading for older players carries an inherent risk of retirement which is usually baked into whatever deal they're involved in. The retirement package is insurance, and like real insurance it's not foolproof, but that doesn't make it a bad idea.
That something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's not a smart thing to do. To carry that to the extreme of the argument, it would be like saying "condoms sometimes break so why bother wearing one?" That a player might retire even with the package doesn't mean that "should have bought the retirement package" is suddenly poor advice. Trading for older players carries an inherent risk of retirement which is usually baked into whatever deal they're involved in. The retirement package is insurance, and like real insurance it's not foolproof, but that doesn't make it a bad idea.
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[quote name='bvharris']That something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's not a smart thing to do. To carry that to the extreme of the argument, it would be like saying "condoms sometimes break so why bother wearing one?" That a player might retire even with the package doesn't mean that "should have bought the retirement package" is suddenly poor advice. Trading for older players carries an inherent risk of retirement which is usually baked into whatever deal they're involved in. The retirement package is insurance, and like real insurance it's not foolproof, but that doesn't make it a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
completely random, but how is civ 5? i have civ 4 with all the expansions and was contemplating getting 5. the fact that you have put only 13 hours into it makes me think it took a dive from 4. but you could just a little busy.
completely random, but how is civ 5? i have civ 4 with all the expansions and was contemplating getting 5. the fact that you have put only 13 hours into it makes me think it took a dive from 4. but you could just a little busy.
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[quote name='KasterDB']So I can't play today when I thought I could. Nate, I know you hate it, but when you get a chance can you put me on autopilot?[/QUOTE]
Haven't had a chance to even get near my Xbox all day. I'll have to do this when I sign on to play my game in about 30 minutes. Hopefully that gives your opponent enough time to play. He'll have till tomorrow morning (can't swear what time).
[quote name='bvharris']For the record, I think n8's policy regarding waiting until the end of the season to fill these teams makes perfect sense. Having people joining up late can definitely upset the playoff balance, and if someone is truly committed they won't mind waiting until the end of the season. As for the CPU being too easy, that's definitely true, but owners joining late don't always give it their best effort. Witness Hemingway who took over a crappy Bucs team in season 1 in the other league, basically tanked out the year and then won the Super Bowl in season 2. So it cuts both ways, and I don't think there's anything wrong with approaching new owners with prudence. That's something I wish we did a little more in the other league too. We've left spots open until the offseason several times, and I've never felt after the fact that it was the wrong decision.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the endorsement. Being a ball buster about it and making people earn their spot may not be a popular choice, but too much work goes into these leagues to bring in a member who could potentially flake out on their team and screw up the roster or finances for years to come...or to not recognize the work put in by other members of the league by allowing anyone to join in the latter half of a season and alter the playoff seeding. This year's game just brought a lot of responsibility for each owner, and it's just not worth it to callously toss teams around anymore. Assuming Madden 14 is of a similar mold, this policy will continue moving forward. I feel like we all need to raise our standards a little bit.
[quote name='bvharris']That something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's not a smart thing to do. To carry that to the extreme of the argument, it would be like saying "condoms sometimes break so why bother wearing one?" That a player might retire even with the package doesn't mean that "should have bought the retirement package" is suddenly poor advice. Trading for older players carries an inherent risk of retirement which is usually baked into whatever deal they're involved in. The retirement package is insurance, and like real insurance it's not foolproof, but that doesn't make it a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
More importantly, I think you can say with certainty that NOT purchasing the retirement package is a bad way to stave off retirement. Even if it's not 100% effective, at least it's a preventative measure. Just passively allowing an aging player to go into the offseason with the slim hope that he wants to continue playing is a foolish way of handling the issue.
Haven't had a chance to even get near my Xbox all day. I'll have to do this when I sign on to play my game in about 30 minutes. Hopefully that gives your opponent enough time to play. He'll have till tomorrow morning (can't swear what time).
[quote name='bvharris']For the record, I think n8's policy regarding waiting until the end of the season to fill these teams makes perfect sense. Having people joining up late can definitely upset the playoff balance, and if someone is truly committed they won't mind waiting until the end of the season. As for the CPU being too easy, that's definitely true, but owners joining late don't always give it their best effort. Witness Hemingway who took over a crappy Bucs team in season 1 in the other league, basically tanked out the year and then won the Super Bowl in season 2. So it cuts both ways, and I don't think there's anything wrong with approaching new owners with prudence. That's something I wish we did a little more in the other league too. We've left spots open until the offseason several times, and I've never felt after the fact that it was the wrong decision.[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the endorsement. Being a ball buster about it and making people earn their spot may not be a popular choice, but too much work goes into these leagues to bring in a member who could potentially flake out on their team and screw up the roster or finances for years to come...or to not recognize the work put in by other members of the league by allowing anyone to join in the latter half of a season and alter the playoff seeding. This year's game just brought a lot of responsibility for each owner, and it's just not worth it to callously toss teams around anymore. Assuming Madden 14 is of a similar mold, this policy will continue moving forward. I feel like we all need to raise our standards a little bit.
[quote name='bvharris']That something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's not a smart thing to do. To carry that to the extreme of the argument, it would be like saying "condoms sometimes break so why bother wearing one?" That a player might retire even with the package doesn't mean that "should have bought the retirement package" is suddenly poor advice. Trading for older players carries an inherent risk of retirement which is usually baked into whatever deal they're involved in. The retirement package is insurance, and like real insurance it's not foolproof, but that doesn't make it a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
More importantly, I think you can say with certainty that NOT purchasing the retirement package is a bad way to stave off retirement. Even if it's not 100% effective, at least it's a preventative measure. Just passively allowing an aging player to go into the offseason with the slim hope that he wants to continue playing is a foolish way of handling the issue.
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