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I was running the clock down (my time of possession was 15+ minutes)...you bet me by 30 last season I wasnt trying to run it up, that's why my time of possession was so much more than yours I'm sorry if I offended you. I know how lethal you are in this game as I got whooped twice by you and multiple times in scrimmages...

You certainly got shafted by madden but I really wasn't trying to do anything rude. You played a good game things just didn't go your way.
 
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Technically, yes, you ran some clock. But running the play clock down to one on a play doesn't mean you get to pass it on the next one.

You were passing the ball with less than three minutes left. Less than two minutes left. Less than one minute left.

After passing it down to the one yard line with 30 seconds left, I sent you a message saying "ARE YOU KIDDING ME", which was sent at roughly the same time you sent me a message saying "care if i score?"

Now. I cannot presume to speak for anyone else, but I'd imagine when most people send a message saying ARE YOU KIDDING ME after a play like that they'd like you to not score.

So when you run it in anyway, I'm not going to sit here and let you patronize me. Who gives two shits if I'm "lethal"? You're leading by 28 points with 3 minutes left, run the god damn clock.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I was running the clock down (my time of possession was 15+ minutes)...you bet me by 30 last season I wasnt trying to run it up, that's why my time of possession was so much more than yours I'm sorry if I offended you. I know how lethal you are in this game as I got whooped twice by you and multiple times in scrimmages...

You certainly got shafted by madden but I really wasn't trying to do anything rude. You played a good game things just didn't go your way.[/QUOTE]

28 point lead, 3:30 left in the game, passing is not acceptable. Strike. That's your warning.
 
Doing it once deserves a strike, but doing it multiple times is just a TOTAL dick move. If that happened against me, it might piss me off enough to quit the league. I don't want to play against assholes like that.
 
I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on learning from it, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone. I guess I'll just take knees or something anytime in the fourth if I'm up, I really don't want to have drama in a madden league.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone.[/QUOTE]

With a 28 point lead, in his end of the field with 3:30 left in the game, do you think a coach would risk an INT? Seriously? Run the ball, kick the field goal (or pin him inside his 10 if you're not close enough), and be happy with your 28 point lead. What this starts to look like is a team more concerned with staying undefeated than playing the right way. You know better than this.

Also, don't be one of those people who plays victim by taking it to the other extreme. Nobody is telling you to kneel the ball 3 times. Play CONSERVATIVELY, and if your lead starts to shrink, then turn it back up. This has been discussed a million times. Continuing to pour it on because your opponent "might" come back is completely the wrong way to think about it. "I was afraid my 28 point lead would shrink...so I won by 35." Be reasonable and think about how that makes you look.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, that's kind of where an "enforced logic" comes in. I feel like we have to restrict a lot of stuff so people don't "play like a video game", and actually use football logic. In real life, the reason for running the ball is to chew clock. Coaches don't risk a pass because it could either A) lead to a turnover or B) result in an incompletion which stops the clock. If you're up by 21 in the 4th quarter, you should be trying to do everything you can to keep that clock moving....and at that point, punting isn't the worst thing in the world should it happen.

I don't know why a lot of people seem to have trouble grasping it, but if you kill some clock with a 21 point lead in the 4th, and are forced to punt...and then your opponent comes down the field and scores a TD to cut your lead to 14...start running your offense again. The idea of chewing the clock doesn't mean that you have to let your opponent come back and tie the game or something.

Obviously, it starts to become a gray area, but to me, a comfortable lead is 3 scores. Two scores can happen pretty quickly (TD + onside kick). So, to me it wouldn't be reasonable to get upset at somebody for throwing the ball (on any down) with a 2 score lead. I guess the idea there is that you're still trying to score to put the game away. And with a 3 score lead...you're trying to preserve the lead and get the game over with (not saying you can't do that with less than a 3 score lead...you've just got a much smaller margin for error).

And as always...in the 3rd quarter, there is no expectation. The variable factor here is time. If there's time to come back, you should keep playing your game. But once you get to a comfortable spot in the 4th quarter where you can whittle down the clock and dictate the end of the game, that's all you should be trying to do.[/QUOTE]
Relevant.
 
[quote name='KasterDB']Relevant.[/QUOTE]

I think I'm going to just add that to the OP so people at least have something to reference. At least we have the strike system now, and people have a chance to right the ship before it really affects their team. Ultimately, it didn't affect the outcome of the game, and troy is facing some type of consequence for it. Hopefully that's enough to be fair to everyone and we can move on. He got his strike for it, and hopefully it won't happen again.

Added to the rules in the OP under the new "Big Lead in the 4th Quarter" section.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']I'll take the strike but do think it's pointless to run the ball directly into the line when it's 3rd down and he is doing run commit to the middle because I've been running the ball the entire second half blowing the clock. Also, that message was me being annoyed. If I wanted to score on that drive I would have run it in instead of stopping. I was trying to be nice at that point.

I'm just going to take the strike and move on learning from it, and again sorry if I upset you. This is the first time in this league or the other that I've had a problem with anyone. I guess I'll just take knees or something anytime in the fourth if I'm up, I really don't want to have drama in a madden league.[/QUOTE]

I know it's not my place to say anything since you already have your strike but I have to comment on how ridiculous that sounds.

You are 8-0 in this league. You're up 28 points with 3:30 left in the 4th quarter in your opponents territory.. On what planet is it realistic to do anything but run it on 3rd down and kick the FG? Doing anything else is just mind-numbingly stupid and disrespectful up that much. And the whole running it out at the 1, messaging him asking if he cares whether you score or not and then running it in with your RB absolutely screams "mining for XP with your rookie RB", no matter what you were actually intending. You need to think about how this stuff comes across to other league members.
 
Not to pile on, but I would have to agree with Gamerdude on how bad it looks to others. There is absolutely no way you were scared of a comeback. You had a near perfect passer rating while scoring 35 points in the first half and held the ball for 3/4 of the game. I don't buy that excuse at all and I wouldn't expect anyone else to. Whether it was intended or not, it looks like you wanted to get your running back another score and knew you couldn't convert the third down on the ground, so went to the pass and ran out of bounds to save the score for your MVP candidate. Again, not saying that was intended, but that is what I immediately thought after reading Kaster's post.

If Kaster had sent a message back saying "don't score", what would you have done? Taken knees and kicked the field goal? That's not realistic at all. Should've just ran the ball on 3rd down and kick/punt. At that point, it doesn't matter if he knows what you're doing and stops you. The game is over. Sounds like it ended long before that play.
 
Silver lining here? At least it seems every other person in the league is in agreement, which hopefully means this kind of thing won't happen very often anymore. By hook or by crook, dammit, lol. :)
 
GG sweaty the first half you totally dominated on defense and then I probably came back and got more sacks in this game than I have in all my other games. But it was all the cpu I only probably got one user sack. GG
 
I'm going to leave this league as well. I spoke a bit to n8 about sticking around but it's just been impossible to schedule anything. Tomorrow is my first day I'm not doing anything after work in a long while and sneaking in a Madden game is just not a priority. It's been fun though.
 
I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! fuck this shit.

GG, Flyersfan.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! fuck this shit.

GG, Flyersfan.[/QUOTE]

Which play was that on? I didn't notice it. The only one i remember the players being close on was the last int. I got extremely lucky on the last one, your no huddle was killing me so I expected the td to happen on that play. I audibled 3 times on that play and had that lb in that zone at the last second.

Devin hester is extremely scary back there. If you didn't get hung up on feet/grass/invisible shit ea seems to put in, you would have at least taken one back (opening second half especially) and possibly two back.

Also, I don't know if you did it on purpose, but thanks for calling your timeout on that weird play with Jaquizz Rodgers when I got the first down and just floated on bodies, then got pushed out of bounds.

My timeout after the two minute warning was an accident, I scratched my head and hit the back button when I put my hand back down on the controller.

GG though I admit I got the lucky shit happening for me. Like that fumble that got pushed out of bounds, could've changed the whole game.
 
It happened twice, it looked like to me. The first one on the curl route, and then another on a slant. I really need to up my players' CIT rating because they're all pretty low.

I feel like I got "Maddened" to some extent, but it didn't matter. I didn't play well enough to win anyway.
 
can't wait for this bye week to be over. i'm really looking forward to the challenge of stopping Tamme and Demps... not gonna lie though, i'm very happy I don't have to face Bush. Also puts me one week closer to finally getting Briggs back
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I love how realistic this game is. You know how in the NFL players reach through the receivers' bodies and intercept the ball? EA found a way to put that in the game! Awesome! fuck this shit.

GG, Flyersfan.[/QUOTE]

that sucks man. those are the most frustrating plays for sure. I remember when the game first got released they were saying the new physics engine was going to get rid of those plays - guess not
 
[quote name='ubernes']I'm going to leave this league as well. I spoke a bit to n8 about sticking around but it's just been impossible to schedule anything. Tomorrow is my first day I'm not doing anything after work in a long while and sneaking in a Madden game is just not a priority. It's been fun though.[/QUOTE]
gonna play tonights game or should i just play the cpu when i get home?
 
i know ill be playing the cpu in the cards vs rams when I'm home at 7p (if n8 is able to put them on auto by them otherwise it'll just be whenever he has the time)
 
[quote name='Dark Rider']Games left:

STL vs ARI (ARI can play CPU)
NYG vs DAL
CLE vs HOU[/QUOTE]

Any update on the last 2? I know jza said he probably wouldn't be around much after last week
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']anybody else getting just dumped on with snow right now?[/QUOTE]

East coast? I live in NH and they're saying 2 feet for us tomorrow....
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']anybody else getting just dumped on with snow right now?[/QUOTE]

Whats a snow? Its 85 here in Florida
 
God damn, I hate loading up Madden to put people on autopilot. If EA doesn't add that feature to their website for Madden 14, I'm trading the game in. They can't possibly be this stupid to not be able to recognize what useful features are.
 
I can't believe that CJ2K has "normal" for his development trait. That's some fucking bullshit. Not even "quick". fucking "normal". What the fuck is wrong with this game? lol

Haaa...and the first play in practice, he fumbles. Glad he's got that 99 carry. Why am I playing this game? :wall:
 
Madden is fucking retarded in what they put on the site and what they don't. They know we are going to buy this shit regardless.

Also, doc and billy should both be done around 8 central after that all games should be done.

Edit: obviously CJ2K Is not superstar material even though he is a beast irl and madden. Madden logic is ridiculous.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I can't believe that CJ2K has "normal" for his development trait. That's some fucking bullshit. Not even "quick". fucking "normal". What the fuck is wrong with this game? lol[/QUOTE]

I've found that to be the case for a lot of players Madden considers "older" and likely done developing. Not saying CJ2K is old, but a lot of veterans seem to be in the same boat. For example: Vincent Jackson, Elvis Dumervil and Champ Bailey are normal development on my team in the other league.
 
cardinals-rams all done. any thought to having open teams be secondary for teams between 10-20 in the standings if they want. I beat the CPU pretty bad and I never beat anyone badly....
 
[quote name='billymcdugal']cardinals-rams all done. any thought to having open teams be secondary for teams between 10-20 in the standings if they want. I beat the CPU pretty bad and I never beat anyone badly....[/QUOTE]

You would need a 2nd account with Madden online pass.
 
[quote name='Blade3D']You would need a 2nd account with Madden online pass.[/QUOTE]
i remember it was a hassle, but if you left, then got reinvited with the new team, then left the franchise, only to rejoin it as your primary team....
 
[quote name='billymcdugal']i remember it was a hassle, but if you left, then got reinvited with the new team, then left the franchise, only to rejoin it as your primary team....[/QUOTE]

That format doesn't lend itself to Madden 13
 
[quote name='billymcdugal']i remember it was a hassle, but if you left, then got reinvited with the new team, then left the franchise, only to rejoin it as your primary team....[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's worse than that now. You'd lose all of your coach XP. Secondary teams are nowhere near worth the trouble.
 
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