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[quote name='Rapid shot']I just tried these settings and i don't like it. I had two back to back fumbles and witnessed the cpu fumble.[/QUOTE]

Were fumbles the only problem? What team were you using, if you remember the players that'd help. I haven't noticed fumbling to be a problem
 
[quote name='labelmeoriginal']Sorry, I wasn't sure where you were capping out at (users). I'm interested though -- my information is listed a few posts up. :)[/QUOTE]

It's cool. If we can fill up, that would be great. Technically, even the spots held by people on the "pending availability" list are still open if a new member came along and wanted to join. I added you to the OP and you're our 21st member, so there's still 11 spots left.

[quote name='Chetty12']Were fumbles the only problem? What team were you using, if you remember the players that'd help. I haven't noticed fumbling to be a problem[/QUOTE]

The good thing about sliders is that we wouldn't even necessarily have to be the ones to come up with them. I'm sure the EA boards and Operation Sports will be full of people trying to come up with the most realistic settings. So, once the game comes out, we all just need to keep our eyes peeled, and decide which ones play the best.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']It's cool. If we can fill up, that would be great. Technically, even the spots held by people on the "pending availability" list are still open if a new member came along and wanted to join. I added you to the OP and you're our 21st member, so there's still 11 spots left.



The good thing about sliders is that we wouldn't even necessarily have to be the ones to come up with them. I'm sure the EA boards and Operation Sports will be full of people trying to come up with the most realistic settings. So, once the game comes out, we all just need to keep our eyes peeled, and decide which ones play the best.[/QUOTE]

I was just about to say that I use OS for ncaa football and they know what they are doing.

[quote name='Chetty12']Were fumbles the only problem? What team were you using, if you remember the players that'd help. I haven't noticed fumbling to be a problem[/QUOTE]

I was using Bradshaw RB for Giants and yeah that was the only problem.
 
He had a fumble in my latest game to. He had around 15 carries. We could try putting the user ball carry at 40. Still have some bad drops once in a while so I'm thinking of bringing the catch up to 45. I'm also looking in to bringing some of the defensive stuff down to 30.

And yes I know people at OS will have some, just have some time on my hands until I start my new job on Friday so I figured I'd mess around with it.
 
well N8 i got us another one in the league just waiting for him to join so i can post his info
damn i have 3 friends in this league i hope its doesnt get to full i dont want to get the boot

he wont be able to post his team info on friday but when its his time to pick a team or anything or i will send u aka N8 his top ten team list
 
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so im interested in trying out the kinect for madden, thats going to make defensive audibles a whole lot easier if it can understand what im saying.
 
[quote name='Aft3rSh0ck24']so im interested in trying out the kinect for madden, thats going to make defensive audibles a whole lot easier if it can understand what im saying.[/QUOTE]

I had to do this during the demo on offense because I couldn't figure out how to Hot Route for the life of me.
 
I did the Kinect for the Demo and it seemed to work seemingly well. If you are on D and you think they are running a pass play, you simply say PASS...your defense aligns to what i assume will be a pre set play (by the user in the options beforehand, just like the custom audibles from last year). Worked everytime.

GOOD TO BE BACK FELLAS!!!!! GO TEXANS!!!!
 
[quote name='h3adkilla']I can play anytime after 3pm til 12am CST. Monday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.[/QUOTE]

Ok, cool. Thanks. I'll add that to the OP. Glad to see your able to post on here now too.
 
These are the sliders I got some really good results from today.
5 mins no acceleration clock
Leave CPU on 50
Put everything human on 30 except for the fallowing.
Wr catch-45
Fumbles- 45
Interceptions-35

To me it keeps the difficulty of all Madden but eliminates the cheesyness that it had before. Still wish the CPU play calling was better. It doesn't help them their qbs refuse to slide when running with the ball
 
Another quick question about the team selection groupings. Are people on the waiting list for the other league in group 2 or 4 if there new to the league? Cool I am and labelmeoriginal inoticed both are on the waiting list, well labelmeoriginal asked to be but hasn't been added to the op in that thread.
 
So how are we going about picking teams? are we just going to say who we want (if theyre available) in order with the rules that are posted on the OP?
 
[quote name='scrub0bk']So how are we going about picking teams? are we just going to say who we want (if theyre available) in order with the rules that are posted on the OP?[/QUOTE]

From the sound of it that's how its going to go. I'd say if you wont be available to post on Friday to send the op a pm with your top10 or 15 list, just so the rest of us wont be stuck waiting.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']Another quick question about the team selection groupings. Are people on the waiting list for the other league in group 2 or 4 if there new to the league? Cool I am and labelmeoriginal inoticed both are on the waiting list, well labelmeoriginal asked to be but hasn't been added to the op in that thread.[/QUOTE]

That's a good question, as I noticed that and wondered what to do as well. To me, the fairest way to handle it would be to give them the benefit of the doubt for now...because as of right now, this is their only league. If they got into the other league later, it would be up to them to make sure it didn't hinder their involvement here.

I mean, really...that can be said about anybody. What I just want to accomplish is to build this league to the point where people view it as their MAIN league. If this is the place people come to first to get their Madden fix, then I have to trust that they'll put this league first.

[quote name='scrub0bk']So how are we going about picking teams? are we just going to say who we want (if theyre available) in order with the rules that are posted on the OP?[/QUOTE]

Yep...that's exactly it. If people want to send me a list of their top 5-10 teams, that would expedite the process a bit. But really, we'll be picking 4 days before the game comes out (unless you have Season Ticket), so I don't think the time crunch will be too bad. I definitely don't want us to be stuck waiting on one person for 12+ hours though. I won't skip over anybody. It just kinda drags things down if people aren't checking the thread regularly.
 
To be honest, I would of joined the waiting list a while ago if I knew it wouldn't of hurt my standings in this league. It'd be kind of a slap in the face if they got to pick before other people only in this league and then they got into the other league as well. My suggestion would be to make a 5th grouping. Put it in between the current second and third grouping and make it for new people that are currently on the waiting list for the other league.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']To be honest, I would of joined the waiting list a while ago if I knew it wouldn't of hurt my standings in this league. It'd be kind of a slap in the face if they got to pick before other people only in this league and then they got into the other league as well. My suggestion would be to make a 5th grouping. Put it in between the current second and third grouping and make it for new people that are currently on the waiting list for the other league.[/QUOTE]

The problem with that is that cool_iAM signed up for this league even before you did. The other league held a lottery for the few spots they had available and he came over here immediately after he didn't get one. Your logic also doesn't account for people who could be playing in leagues not related to CAG.

There's also no telling when they'll get into the other league. It could be in a week. It could be in 3 months. Without overcomplicating it, the way I'm looking at it is this: if you CURRENTLY do not have a spot in another league (that I'm aware of), then you're an exclusive member. If you want to put your name on the waiting list for the other league, that's fine. People aren't barred from participating in the other league (as evidenced by the people in Group 3).

Ultimately, I can't predict what people are going to do in the future. Once we get things started, anything could happen. Someone who got to pick before you could decide they hate Madden and drop from the league. It's frustrating as all hell, but that's the nature of online leagues. There can't be a contingency plan for everything. All I can do is make the best of the information I have. And right now, those people do not have a spot in the other league. If they did, I can assure you they would be bumped down.
 
All I was saying is most people in group two are dedicating themselves to this league and only this league on here. By signing up for the waitlist, IMO, they are saying there ready to jump into the other league at any moment its needed. That's making a commitment to that league. I just think its a little unfair people waiting for a chance to jump into the other league have the same chance as people who have made the conscious decision to only play in this league. As I've pointed out they should be higher then people already guaranteed a spot in the other league but below people that are making the decision to just be in this league. If it was a 30 long waitlist I'd be more understanding of your opinion on this. It's a four person waitlist, and the likelihood of them getting into the other league is extremely high. If people on the waitlist are allowed in group two based on the logic everyone else could be playing in other leagues outside of cag then you mine as well group group 3 into 2 as well.
 
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[quote name='Chetty12']All I was saying is most people in group two are dedicating themselves to this league and only this league on here. By signing up for the waitlist, IMO, they are saying there ready to jump into the other league at any moment its needed. I just think its a little unfair people waiting for a chance to jump into the other league have the same chance as people who have made the conscious decision to only play in this league. As I've pointed out they should be higher then people already guaranteed a spot in the other league but below people that are making the decision to just be in this league. If it was a 30 long waitlist I'd be more understanding of your opinion on this. It's a four person waitlist, and the likelihood of them getting into the other league is extremely high.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry. I don't think that's reasonable. I can't hold people accountable for what MIGHT happen in the future. Yes, there is a good chance that those people eventually get into the other league (though honestly, each year that league gets more "permanent" members...it's the reason they only had 4 new members join at all this year). But there are a million other things that could happen too.

As I said, the person with the 3rd pick could drop from the league, leaving a team like the Patriots open while someone else is stuck with the Browns. Someone could have trouble making rent and need to pawn the game. Somebody's Xbox could red ring. Anybody who is in this league BEFORE they're in another league should be committed to this league first. If that proves otherwise, then it will be handled. I'm not going to be swayed on this one. Adding another group for "people who might eventually play in another league" is unnecessary.

EDIT - I think you just interpreted it a different way. Yes, I talked about people being EXCLUSIVE to this league and being guaranteed a spot. But that was mainly for the purpose of preventing this league from being filled with half the people from the other league while Madden is new and fresh, having those people take the good teams, and then bailing when they start feeling a desire to play something else. I'm not going to hunt people down on the internet to see if they're playing in an Operations Sports league...or a EA boards league...or whatever.I also don't generally have the intention of people signing up for CAG just so they can play in this league. My main objective was to hold spots for people who regularly use CAG who might not be as hardcore into Madden as people in the other league. Building the league beyond that is going to take time because like I said, you never know who is going to become a long-term member. At the end of the day, my wish is for people to WANT to come to this league first. But that's not going to happen overnight.

If that misled you in any way, I apologize. Do I appreciate people more who ARE here 100% exclusively and care about helping me build this league up? Absolutely! Those who become long-term members will see the fruits of this as they will have the same options next year of holding onto their team, or having first dibs on a new team. It's just a bit of a logjam now because we're still a young league.
 
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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Just saw that you signed up for the other league as well. As stated in the OP, I can't guarantee you a spot if you're doubling up. Priority goes to people only signing up for one league.[/QUOTE]

This post, especially the last sentence, on the first page is what I think caused the confusion for me. To me signing up for the waitlist, is basically signing up for the other league and you should give priority to the people that arnt. Obviously, your mind is already made up about this so its probably the last you'll hear of it from me. I may not agree with your opinion on this but at least I can respect it and see where you're coming from.
 
The way I look at it I was just looking for a league to join..i was in two last yr and gave both %100. Ok yes I'm on the waiting list for the other but that doesn't mean I'll just up and leave this one because I was giving an opportunity.. I figure the only way I would leave this league would be due to other opponents not giving %100. And honestly idc what team I have or what pick is given I'm just looking for com to make my game better.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']This post, especially the last sentence, on the first page is what I think caused the confusion for me. To me signing up for the waitlist, is basically signing up for the other league and you should give priority to the people that arnt. Obviously, your mind is already made up about this so its probably the last you'll hear of it from me. I may not agree with your opinion on this but at least I can respect it and see where you're coming from.[/QUOTE]

The difference then was that spots had not even been handed out in the other league at that time, and they weren't even sure if they'd need to do a lottery. At that point, anybody signing up for that league had a chance to get a spot. As such, the sign up list over here was very malleable, and the selection groups idea hadn't even been pieced together yet.

There were a lot of unknowns here. I had no clue how many people we'd have in this league, how many players from last season were returning, how much room we'd have (if any) for people wanting to play in both leagues. Some of our members even flip flopped a bit. It was very much a "see as we go" process.

Once it was determined who had a spot over there, people were bumped down to the "pending availability" list. Priority was then given to people who were coming in without a place to play...which is the category that both of the people you have named...and yourself, still fit into. If that changes before Friday, then our list would also change. That's about as good of an explanation as I can give you.
 
[quote name='Cool_iAM']The way I look at it I was just looking for a league to join..i was in two last yr and gave both %100. Ok yes I'm on the waiting list for the other but that doesn't mean I'll just up and leave this one because I was giving an opportunity.. I figure the only way I would leave this league would be due to other opponents not giving %100. And honestly idc what team I have or what pick is given I'm just looking for com to make my game better.[/QUOTE]

I'm not questioning the effort you'll give forth in any of the leagues. I'd like to make that clear. Just like I'm not going to question blade or anyone in group 3 just because there in another league. All I was trying to point out was that I thought priority was given to the people commited to only this league. To me, signing up for a waitlist commits you to another league, which is where my opinion and the comish's seem to differentiate. Its been cleared up and discussed. The commish has made it clear how he feels and ultimately its not a huge deal. But I definately don't want people thinking I was questioning the effort they'll put in.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']I'm not questioning the effort you'll give forth in any of the leagues. I'd like to make that clear. Just like I'm not going to question blade or anyone in group 3 just because there in another league. All I was trying to point out was that I thought priority was given to the people commited to only this league. To me, signing up for a waitlist commits you to another league, which is where my opinion and the comish's seem to differentiate. Its been cleared up and discussed. The commish has made it clear how he feels and ultimately its not a huge deal. But I definately don't want people thinking I was questioning the effort they'll put in.[/QUOTE]

Ok then that's my bad on that part..but for me personally when I was on the waiting list then receiving a message from this lg on joining I completely focused on this lg this thread like I have no clue whats goin on in the other lg..like I said I was just looking for a spot
 
[quote name='Twick87']so for team selection are we just gonna post it on here like any other message? or should we PM the OP?[/QUOTE]

If you want to PM me a list of your top 5-10 choices so when it's your turn there's no waiting, you're welcome to do that (3 people have done this already). If you'd rather wait until it's your turn and just post your team choice in this thread, that's fine too. I will say though, if you go with option #2, try to be ready when it's your turn. People usually start getting impatient pretty quickly, lol. ;)
 
[quote name='DVO21']how to start a connected career wasnt sure if u have seen this N8 but might help out just watching it myself right now

http://mymaddenpad.com/2012/08/21/how-to-start-a-connected-career-in-madden-nfl-13/

wow just got done watching some really good shit in there for u to think about[/QUOTE]

It was nice hearing him mention that the trade logic is better. Also nice to see the commish in fact does have the ability to control the sliders.
 
I like that n8 if he wanted to could just limit the league to how many we have. But i dont think thats wuy he wanta to do
 
[quote name='DVO21']I like that n8 if he wanted to could just limit the league to how many we have. But i dont think thats wuy he wanta to do[/QUOTE]

Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet. But I would imagine doing something like that would prevent us from using the real schedules. Plus, it would limit what we could do with trades, free agents, etc. Not to mention it would make the divisions all weird. I've done leagues like that for other games (MLB 2K11, NHL 12, etc) and they're never as fun. They usually just end up feeling like big tournaments because there's not very much structure. If we were able to make due with the CPU teams last year, I'm sure we can do it again this year.
 
[quote name='DVO21']I like that n8 if he wanted to could just limit the league to how many we have. But i dont think thats wuy he wanta to do[/QUOTE]

I think in Madden that setting just changes the amount of users in the league. It doesn't change the total amount of teams in the league, there would always be 32 teams. It just locks the amount of users that can be in the league.
 
Yes in the video it states number of human players permitted in the league nothing to do with the number of teams. Obviously there is no point in changing it either way since the point is to get the league to grow.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']I think in Madden that setting just changes the amount of users in the league. It doesn't change the total amount of teams in the league, there would always be 32 teams. It just locks the amount of users that can be in the league.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Blade3D']Yes in the video it states number of human players permitted in the league nothing to do with the number of teams. Obviously there is no point in changing it either way since the point is to get the league to grow.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that makes more sense. Pretty sure they've always had that feature then. And Blade's right, it wouldn't be worth it either way.
 
lol i never said we would use it i just thought it was cool that they had that feature but i thought the video its self put out alot of good info im sure alot of use were wondering about.
 
I also noticed when he was creating his coach, he could pick a Playbook and set if he wants to pass or rush more but he never showed him setting up a scheme.
 
hey N8 any chance u can send me my list that i sent u plz and thank u i just want to take a quick look over it before tommrow

also wut time tommrow should the team picking be going down
 
Yeah I was wondering what time I should check the site for the selection list. I also preordered it today from Amazon with a prime account so I should be getting it release day.
 
[quote name='DVO21']hey N8 any chance u can send me my list that i sent u plz and thank u i just want to take a quick look over it before tommrow

also wut time tommrow should the team picking be going down[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't it be in your sent items folder?
 
[quote name='jza1218']Wouldn't it be in your sent items folder?[/QUOTE]


hmm forgot about that.

:newbie:
 
[quote name='DVO21']any chance ur going to release the order of ours picks tonight :)[/QUOTE]

I'll do my best to post it tonight. But if my daughter sleeps anything like she did last night, don't hold your breath.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']I'll do my best to post it tonight. But if my daughter sleeps anything like she did last night, don't hold your breath.[/QUOTE]


sounds good man do what u can but families always first so im sure we will all understand
 
Still haven't decided if I want to take a rebuilding project of a team or take a decent team. Can't wait.
 
tommrow 5 central madden 13 comes out for EA Sports Season Ticket Pass.

Bart Scott : "Can't Wait"
 
[quote name='DVO21']tommrow 5 central madden 13 comes out for EA Sports Season Ticket Pass.

Bart Scott : "Can't Wait"[/QUOTE]

Oh, wow. I didn't know it would be in the middle of the day like that. That's weird.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Oh, wow. I didn't know it would be in the middle of the day like that. That's weird.[/QUOTE]


ya i also found that to be weird but if u really think about it since its coming out friday which is actually 4 days early not 3 like the ad says but hey im not going to cry about it lol. but i did just check the timer and it adds up to 5 central pm

did anyone else get the pass if so pm me ur gamertag maybe we can get an online game tommrow with our teams or sometime this weekend.
 
[quote name='DVO21']did anyone else get the pass if so pm me ur gamertag maybe we can get an online game tommrow with our teams or sometime this weekend.[/QUOTE]

I think I have it. My subscription from last year runs out Sunday but I've heard as long as I have it downloaded before the subscription runs out ill have it for the full 3 days. So we'll see and if I do I'd definitely be up to play a couple games.
 
Just throwing this out there: My first choice is the Bills, and I'm assuming they'll be available whenever I do pick. But if someone does plan on taking them just for gits & shiggles I'd appreciate if you don't :lol:
 
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