CAGLS: Madden 13 Gentlemen's League - We Finished! Thanks for Playing!

Got the game and ready to go fellas lets get it going for a great season.

Edit: geez I have been busy with work and it looks like I have missed 30 pages of freaking thread I have to catch up on lol
 
In the ccm I just started as long as I didn't simulate past week one of the preseason, all free agents were available.
 
hey N8 wuts the plan for FA becuz i, more than likely going to miss the first 3-4 weeks of the season and i have caps space as u showed me and i would like to be able to sign people as well before there all gone :(
 
[quote name='DVO21']mine was about 2 weeks old prolly a non ccm salary or something i got it from doom
but i will take thoughs number either way if any one needs to make some salary room i would be interested if its the right player but remember im helping u so u help me a little with the cost of the trade :)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I even checked the default roster to see how the different the cap numbers were in that...and they were a little different, but not much. No extre $15M all of a sudden, lol. So, I expect the next roster update to look very similar to that. I think that's the best way to handle it though. Teams with the most cap room get first crack at the top free agents, and that'll get most of the really good players off the board so the CPU doesn't steal them all. And after that, like JoelyPoley said, free agency should mostly be out of the way, other than offseason stuff which does utilize negotiations and bidding wars. Not a perfect system, but probably the best way we can approach it.

[quote name='DVO21']hey N8 wuts the plan for FA becuz i, more than likely going to miss the first 3-4 weeks of the season and i have caps space as u showed me and i would like to be able to sign people as well before there all gone :([/QUOTE]

No internet access or smartphone? Remember, all that stuff can be done on the website or with the app this year.
 
i should have internet but will i be able to join the league from online and also where will i have to go for that.becuz if that the wya im going on a signing frenzy lol. but im not sure about how any of that internet stuff works. and if it will allow me to join the league not using the xbox
 
[quote name='DVO21']i should have internet but will i be able to join the league from online and also where will i have to go for that.becuz if that the wya im going on a signing frenzy lol. but im not sure about how any of that internet stuff works. and if it will allow me to join the league not using the xbox[/QUOTE]

It's going to be a draft format. Each team is getting one player. I don't know if EA has the website ready (haven't checked yet). You should be able to accept an invite from it though based on what I've read. I did search the Google Play store for the Madden app earlier but that's definitely not up yet. Hopefully soon.
 
[quote name='snakemaster2389']i'll take the colts and are we doing a fantasy draft?[/QUOTE]

there he is wasnt sure if u were going to join

and no to the fantasy draft its not in this madden
 
[quote name='snakemaster2389']i'll take the colts and are we doing a fantasy draft?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, they took out fantasy drafts this year. Still want the Colts?
 
now all we need is a jags owner so i can trade for blackmon. loved that dude in college i want him to be a bengal
 
[quote name='DVO21']now all we need is a jags owner so i can trade for blackmon. loved that dude in college i want him to be a bengal[/QUOTE]

We've got a lot of new members this year. I'm just hoping they all stick. Would be nice to have a large "core" of our own moving forward.
 
well i think we should be fine if its doing this good and the game just came out today there has to be more to come thats for sure. we start the league around the 11th so i will be able to keep somewhat of an eye on whats going on here from there and maybe sign a free agent but how are u planning on ristricting us but not the computer or have u figured that out?
 
Another thing I noticed about the cap. I saw Welker had a contract of 480k. In real life he is tagged for around 9 million. Just pointing out that way isn't flawless either.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']Another thing I noticed about the cap. I saw Welker had a contract of 480k. In real life he is tagged for around 9 million. Just pointing out that way isn't flawless either.[/QUOTE]

Wow thats very odd
 
[quote name='Chetty12']Another thing I noticed about the cap. I saw Welker had a contract of 480k. In real life he is tagged for around 9 million. Just pointing out that way isn't flawless either.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but even if his contract is wrong, that's the monetary system that we have to work around in terms of the game. I shudder to think what little "unintentional advantages" EA may have given certain teams due to their lack of attention to detail.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']It also says Brady is making 480k. I knew he took a pay cut, didn't know it was that low.[/QUOTE]

well that doesnt make sense at all maybe they will patch it and fix it on 9/11
 
[quote name='Chetty12']It also says Brady is making 480k. I knew he took a pay cut, didn't know it was that low.[/QUOTE]

You must be looking at that wrong. I just loaded up the Connected Career I was using earlier to get those cap room figures, and it shows Brady's salary as $14.21M for 2012 and $17.58M for 2013.

Welker's is also showing as $9.50M for 2012 and $0 for 2013 because he'll be a free agent.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']anybody simmed the 1st season of connected careers? curious how the offseason is this year...[/QUOTE]

i know N8 has he will have to give u more details
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']You must be looking at that wrong. I just loaded up the Connected Career I was using earlier to get those cap room figures, and it shows Brady's salary as $14.21M for 2012 and $17.58M for 2013.

Welker's is also showing as $9.50M for 2012 and $0 for 2013 because he'll be a free agent.[/QUOTE]

Hmm maybe its something glitchy with the tradeblock? It showed both of them at 480k. If its right, that's fine by me.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']anybody simmed the 1st season of connected careers? curious how the offseason is this year...[/QUOTE]

This is what I posted a few pages back.

[quote name='n8rockerasu']Ok, starting to feel a little better. The offseason stuff mostly looks great. After you've had an opportunity to extend player contracts throughout the season, you get one final chance as the off season starts. They'll tell you how long of a contract they want and how much money they're looking for. It's up to you if you want to undercut them...and how much of a split you want between salary and signing bonus.

After that week is advanced, those players become unrestricted free agents, and you've now allowed other teams to make bids on them. When you view the available free agents, it will show you what teams are interested in that player and how many bids have been made on him. Again, you decide what length/amount of contract you want to offer them. And after you submit it, they thank you and let you know they'll be in touch. This part feels very authentic.

So, really, we just have to decide how to handle signing free agents during the year...or if we need to handle it at all. I think what some people are going to be shocked by is how many players they're going to have to manage and re-sign. For instance, the Titans are a team with lots of cap room...but that's because they have a TON of expiring contracts. Each week, I had 2-3 more players needing to negotiate with me. So, I feel like if you're not careful with your spending, it could be easy to run out of money right when your star player's contract runs out.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='Chetty12']Hmm maybe its something glitchy with the tradeblock? It showed both of them at 480k. If its right, that's fine by me.[/QUOTE]

I'm not seeing their salary even listed when I put them on the trade block. Good luck getting a good trade from the CPU though. Two teams offered me a 3rd round pick for Welker and another team offered me a 4th and a 7th round.

Ha, and for Brady, Buffalo and St. Louis offered me a 1st round pick, but Tennessee only offered me a 2nd rounder, lol.

And they're persistent. I rejected the offers and they submitted the exact same ones the following week. That shit wouldn't fly if I did it to the CPU. They'd hang up on me and tell me to come back when I'm serious.
 
ya it s pretty insane how that works.

so wut are we considering a good deal on picks involved with trades.

and are we doing a voting system or is it just going to be owner and owner make a deal and make the trade with no one elses input
 
And on a side note Bengals still looking for a number 2 WR or even a new number 1 WR but AJ Green is staying any takers on a trade make it worth u while if u even consider
 
[quote name='DVO21']ya it s pretty insane how that works.

so wut are we considering a good deal on picks involved with trades.

and are we doing a voting system or is it just going to be owner and owner make a deal and make the trade with no one elses input[/QUOTE]

All trades should be presented in the thread first just to make sure no one thinks they're unreasonable. Even trades with the CPU...present here first, then see if you can get them to take it, lol. I'll add an official section on trades to the rules and policies section in the OP when I get a chance.
 
well how mny people are going to take salary in consideration with trades as in making cap space for the FA in the offseason. and by getting not as much they get cap space and i get a player and they also get something worth while as well. or what if a guy is going up for trades becuz they dont really need the guy but he is good but they dont use him but need to let him go becuz of cap space and there willing to give him up for space. i mean by bringing in other people to judge trade we will have to present so much more this year and also people will try to steal trades and say no to trades then turn around a offer the guy a little more to make it seem fair. i honestly think this year sould just be let the owners do what the owners want. thats how it is in real life and its suppose to bea sim league

just my opionion i realize ur going to do wut u want but im might not be the only one that feels this way
 
just played my first game online and it lagged a bit at beginning but it got better as the match went on, I was the Broncos and I was facing the Packers and I was throwing picks with Manning but I did dome big plays and ended up winning 23-22 by a fg with 5 seconds left lol my stats w/ Manning were- 13-25 232 yds. 1 td 2 picks. Eric Decker is pretty good and my team also had 6 drops
 
[quote name='snakemaster2389']just played my first game online and it lagged a bit at beginning but it got better as the match went on, I was the Broncos and I was facing the Packers and I was throwing picks with Manning but I did dome big plays and ended up winning 23-22 by a fg with 5 seconds left lol my stats w/ Manning were- 13-25 232 yds. 1 td 2 picks. Eric Decker is pretty good and my team also had 6 drops[/QUOTE]


way to pull off the win

blade and i had a game earlier that was close and intense came down to the very last play.
49ers vs Bengals
 
[quote name='DVO21']well how mny people are going to take salary in consideration with trades as in making cap space for the FA in the offseason. and by getting not as much they get cap space and i get a player and they also get something worth while as well. or what if a guy is going up for trades becuz they dont really need the guy but he is good but they dont use him but need to let him go becuz of cap space and there willing to give him up for space. i mean by bringing in other people to judge trade we will have to present so much more this year and also people will try to steal trades and say no to trades then turn around a offer the guy a little more to make it seem fair. i honestly think this year sould just be let the owners do what the owners want. thats how it is in real life and its suppose to bea sim league

just my opionion i realize ur going to do wut u want but im might not be the only one that feels this way[/QUOTE]

The problem is, you're not even giving anyone the benefit of the doubt or trusting anybody's intelligence to factor in things that are BRAND NEW to the game this year. It's not like there's a history of salaries being ignored when reviewing trades. I just feel like you've been lobbying really hard for a very, very lenient trading environment. First, you suggested increasing the trade cap, then you suggested turning off the salary cap because it might be "too complex", now you want no trade reviews. What exactly is it that you're after here?
 
i like trades but we arent doing a trade cap we are using the salary system to become a real league. and at first i didnt like the salary idea becuz i figured EA would screw it all up and i know i posted that somewhere that if EA messed up everything that i thought it would be smarter to use the old system. but EA got it right so i feel like we should just let owners do wut owners want becuz thats how it works in real life and yes the commish of the nfl has to sign it to approve it but in the nfl the commish doesnt own a team so he has no reason to be a bias.

and when the whole switch teams came up u said it was cool if i did if most people where fine with it 3 said they didnt care and 1 said no and then from there u just killed it. not saying that me not switching teams matter anymore becuz i dont care but it did show me that u said there would be a vote and the votes went my way on switching and u still said no becuz one person said no. not trying to fight or causes problems so showing u how i feel in my point of view. that i honestly think if u dont likea trade and no one else cares but one u could just be like no trade
 
[quote name='DVO21']and when the whole switch teams came up u said it was cool if i did if most people where fine with it 3 said they didnt care and 1 said no and then from there u just killed it. not saying that me not switching teams matter anymore becuz i dont care but it did show me that u said there would be a vote and the votes went my way on switching and u still said no becuz one person said no. not trying to fight or causes problems so showing u how i feel in my point of view. that i honestly think if u dont likea trade and no one else cares but one u could just be like no trade[/QUOTE]

The reason switching teams was killed was because pitfallharry brought up the best point in the entire discussion. It was articulate and well thought out, and was immediately reinforced by others. He said:

[quote name='pitfallharry219']It's one thing for DVO to switch, being the last pick, but it really screws shit up if someone towards the front of the line wants to switch. Had Dallas been available, I would've taken them, as would have many others.[/QUOTE]

Now, while his point defended you, it highlighted why switching teams just isn't fair. If it's ok for certain people to switch but not others, then how does that not come off as favoritism? Ultimately, the most fair thing to do is to not allow anyone to switch. It's not always about the majority. It's about who makes the best argument and making the right call.

If one person says "that's cool" and somebody else gives a thought out response of why they disagree that is longer than two words, I'm going to value that response a little more. pitfallharry pointed out something that I had not thought about, and it basically proved my line of thinking wrong. If that doesn't show you that I can think beyond my own opinions and take into account what other people are saying, then I don't know what to tell you.

If you can present a reasonable argument, of course, I'll consider it. But so far, the best you can come up with for having essentially no trade restrictions is that we all own a team, so therefore, none of us could possibly be objective about anything. And I'm sorry, but that's a load of crap.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']I'm not seeing their salary even listed when I put them on the trade block. Good luck getting a good trade from the CPU though. Two teams offered me a 3rd round pick for Welker and another team offered me a 4th and a 7th round.

Ha, and for Brady, Buffalo and St. Louis offered me a 1st round pick, but Tennessee only offered me a 2nd rounder, lol.

And they're persistent. I rejected the offers and they submitted the exact same ones the following week. That shit wouldn't fly if I did it to the CPU. They'd hang up on me and tell me to come back when I'm serious.[/QUOTE]

My brother and I started a ccm together. He was the patriots and put Brady on the block just to see what was offered, that's where I could see salary info._
 
And I can't find a list of all the transactions that have been done or a list somewhere of everyone on the trading block. Anyone have any luck?
 
[quote name='DVO21']And on a side note Bengals still looking for a number 2 WR or even a new number 1 WR but AJ Green is staying any takers on a trade make it worth u while if u even consider[/QUOTE]

I'd be willing to make a deal for Santana Moss. He is an 85 overall in a west coast offense. 33 years old, but you should be able to get 3 more years out of him. He would be a major upgrade to your #2 spot. Fast with good hands.
 
Players on my trading block.

Jake long
Karlos dansby
Matt Moore
David garrard
Jared odrick

Cameron wake and Reggie bush depending on what I'm getting in return.
 
All right, I added sections for Free Agency and Trades to our rules and policies section of the OP. That section is getting pretty lengthy, lol. Though, I'd rather make sure things are explained up front and get it out of the way now than have people wondering what's acceptable later. Once we get things started, I'll put it in spoiler tags so it doesn't clog up the whole OP. But for now, it's front and center so everyone has no excuse for not knowing the rules.
 
After thinking about it i'm going to go ahead and pick this up on Friday and i'd like to join.


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[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']All right, I added sections for Free Agency and Trades to our rules and policies section of the OP. That section is getting pretty lengthy, lol. Though, I'd rather make sure things are explained up front and get it out of the way now than have people wondering what's acceptable later. Once we get things started, I'll put it in spoiler tags so it doesn't clog up the whole OP. But for now, it's front and center so everyone has no excuse for not knowing the rules.[/QUOTE]

Basing FA signing order solely on cap space doesn't seem very fair in my situation. There are only 5 teams with less cap space than the Redskins, and the Redskins are arguably one of the teams that need the most help.

It is true that we don't know if good players took poor teams, but it is reasonable to consider that those bad teams will handicap the player enough to make it even game between bad players with good teams and good players with bad teams. And if we are worried about good players with bad teams having an advantage then why aren't we worried about good players with good teams who will have an even greater advantage by signing the best FA's?

I would propose more of a hybrid systems of FA's between team rating and cap space. Like Group 1 would be the first to sign FA's. That Group 1 would contain teams whose ratings are between 70-75. Of those in that group the team with the most cap space will get first signing and the team with the least will get last signing. Then Group 2 will go. Group 2 will contain teams between 76 - 80. Etc.

This way we aren't handicapping teams like the rams, seahawks, chiefs, bills, redskins, and raiders who all have less cap room than the Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Vikings, Eagles and Titans simply because we don't know how good the players controlling those bad teams are.
 
[quote name='JoelyPoley']Basing FA signing order solely on cap space doesn't seem very fair in my situation. There are only 5 teams with less cap space than the Redskins, and the Redskins are arguably one of the teams that need the most help.

It is true that we don't know if good players took poor teams, but it is reasonable to consider that those bad teams will handicap the player enough to make it even game between bad players with good teams and good players with bad teams. And if we are worried about good players with bad teams having an advantage then why aren't we worried about good players with good teams who will have an even greater advantage by signing the best FA's?

I would propose more of a hybrid systems of FA's between team rating and cap space. Like Group 1 would be the first to sign FA's. That Group 1 would contain teams whose ratings are between 70-75. Of those in that group the team with the most cap space will get first signing and the team with the least will get last signing. Then Group 2 will go. Group 2 will contain teams between 76 - 80. Etc.

This way we aren't handicapping teams like the rams, seahawks, chiefs, bills, redskins, and raiders who all have less cap room than the Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Vikings, Eagles and Titans simply because we don't know how good the players controlling those bad teams are.[/QUOTE]

This seems pretty reasonable to me.

If we fill up and don't have to worry about CPU teams scooping players up, we can always wait until say, week 4, and use the order of worst record to best record to draft from the FA pool.

Then we can progress and do this every 4 weeks.
 
On a side note, I played an unranked game against a friend of mine who lives across town from me, and we lagged pretty bad at times. We played at 3am, so it's not like it was peak hours. I'll give it a few runs to see if it's a persistent problem for me. I can't play games that rely on timing like that.
 
agreed but r people willing to wait a little longer for us to get a few more people like say september 15th start date filled or not filled thats something that needs to be talked about.

also are we going to do the preseason or just sim in with injuries off

and no thank u to santana moss
 
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I wasn't looking for much for Moss, but that's fine lol.

I'd like to play preseason even if it is an accelerated advancing schedule. You have to cut your roster down to 53 players throughout the preseason and I would prefer to cut the players I don't want. The computer may automatically cut the worst players which isn't the best decisions if you have rookie that gets cut over a 33 year old player who is barely better. Preseason also gives you the ability to trade players before cutting them. If you have three centers rated at 80, 79, and 78 you might want to try and get a low pick for the 78 rather than having the computer cut him. Just some examples.

We could advance through preseason weeks once every day for 4 days, then go to our normal advance once every four days for regular season.
 
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