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Using Jeff Demps cause he's fast as shit, then taking Demps and just running "around the defense"[/QUOTE]

I traded for Jeff Demps in my offline franchise. He's basically Chris Johnson, except a faceless rookie with a 63 OVR on the roster screen.

Anyone who's ever used him or played against him knows he's living proof that speed and acceleration is the only thing that matters in Madden. And I agree he's kinda cheap, especially so on a team as passing stacked as New England.
 
[quote name='hammurabi1337']I didn't know backing up our trades with reasons, which we're supposed to do, was being disrespectful and causing problems. Apologies.

We're attempting to rework the trade. In an absolutely non-offensive, 100% respectful way, I have to say I think you're undervaluing youth.[/QUOTE]

Backing up your trades with reasons is absolutely welcomed (and encouraged). It just makes a bit more sense to do it when you propose the trade, rather than after it is rejected.

I don't think we're undervaluing youth at all. I just don't think any of us consider a 30 year old lineman to be "aging". He's really in his prime, and will play at that level for at least another 3-4 years.

[quote name='Cool_iAM']it was 3mins left after i scored[/QUOTE]

Are you saying it was 20-7 when you did the playaction on 3rd and 1? If that's the case, I think it's fine. It seems that Aft3rSh0ck is letting up a bit on his complaint...which is something we need to be careful of.

If people are crying "wolf!" and then it turns out to not be true, I'm going to be less inclined to believe you next time. There's a big difference between converting a 3rd down in a 13 point game vs. passing on every down with a 20 point lead. Lets try to remember that moving forward.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Backing up your trades with reasons is absolutely welcomed (and encouraged). It just makes a bit more sense to do it when you propose the trade, rather than after it is rejected.

I don't think we're undervaluing youth at all. I just don't think any of us consider a 30 year old lineman to be "aging". He's really in his prime, and will play at that level for at least another 3-4 years.
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Yeah, the trade went into the committee before I got a chance to update the post with OVRs and contracts and thoughts and whatnot. It's all good, just wanted to get my say in.
 
Revised

Trade between Green Bay and Miami. This will have to be done in two separate trades because it involves four players/draft picks from each side.

Green Bay(Steggy) receives-

Mike Pouncey- 23 years old- C- 79 ovr- 2012- 2.17, Total remaining- 9.40 over 4 years
Reggie Bush- 27 years old- Rb- 87 ovr- 2012- 5.52, total remaing- 5.52 over 1 year
2nd and 3rd round pick

Miami(chetty12) receives-

Greg Jennings- 29 years old- Wr- 92 ovr- 2012-8.26, total remaining- 8.26 over 1 year
Davon House- 23 years old- Cb- 73 ovr- 2012- 480k, total remaining- 2.2 over 3 years
Jeff Saturday- 37 years old- C- 86 ovr- 2012- 3.9, total remaining 7.8 over 2 years
James Starks- 26 years old- Rb- 74 ovr- 2012- 520k, total remaining 2.00 over 2 years.

All ovr are from my scheme. I get a number one receiver, an experienced C, a decent Man to Man nickel corner, and a replacement Rb. I get the higher overall players, which is why the draft picks are involved. I believe Steggy also did this trade to free up a little cap room, i believe he gains around 5 million.
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APPROVED

I hope this gives the committee a little credibility and gives everyone some reassurance. I feel good about the work we did today.
 
no it was 27-7 when he was passing late in the fourth quarter. If it was third down and long that late in the game, maybe i understand, but i wasnt crying wolf.

Another thing about the game not complaining but about him just EA in general, but he passed the ball, and switched to the WR and i think he was still pushing the joystick cause his WR shot away from the ball ran into my defender, and another one of my defenders caught the interception and it got taken away for pass interference. i thought for a second they put the replacement refs in. haha but it was just one of those days for me.

again sorry for quitting instead of playing it out.
 
[quote name='Aft3rSh0ck24']no it was 27-7 when he was passing late in the fourth quarter. If it was third down and long that late in the game, maybe i understand, but i wasnt crying wolf.

Another thing about the game not complaining but about him just EA in general, but he passed the ball, and switched to the WR and i think he was still pushing the joystick cause his WR shot away from the ball ran into my defender, and another one of my defenders caught the interception and it got taken away for pass interference. i thought for a second they put the replacement refs in. haha but it was just one of those days for me.

again sorry for quitting instead of playing it out.[/QUOTE]

Yeah...I don't expect EA to ever get pass interference right in either of their football games. That level of understanding is just way, way above their pay grade.

As a final note on the Chiefs - Falcons game...I think at this point, we just let it go. If it is part of his regular playstyle, and it was questionable, it will probably come up again. if it doesn't, then mission accomplished anyway. But there's really nothing more to say about it.
 
[quote name='Chetty12']First i don't understand how the trade came down to Pouncey-Saturday, Jennings-Bush, Starks, House- 1st, 2nd. Jennings and Bush don't even play the same position. So the fair comparison would be to look at it like Pouncey-Saturday, Bush-Starks, Jennings, House-1st, 2nd.


First, Jennings is worth a 1st round pick. I don't understand the argument against that. He's a 90 plus receiver with 94 speed, 93 agil, 94 accel, there is no first rounder that is drafted that will be that good at receiver for maybe another 3 years and that's being generous.

Secondly, House to me is worth a 2nd round pick. I play a man coverage, press type D. House has 83 man and 86 press. How many 2nd round rookies are going to be mid 70's with that type of skill set right out of the draft? Not to mention, his age makes him the age of a rookie.

Lastly, I'm willing to swap Saturday for Pouncey because there simply is no potential rating in this game. I'm not guaranteed that Pouncey is a up and comer. He may be that in real life but i'll take the ratings boost i get with Saturday right now over pretend potential any day. I'm also willing to swap Bush for Starks because i believe i can replace Bush with a combo of Starks and Lamar Miller rather easily.[/QUOTE]

LOL at Jennings being worth a 1st rd pick. If you honestly believe an NFL team would make that trade for a 30 year old WR, then so be it. We obviously have a huge difference in opinion on that. Just seems like a trade that would be made for someone looking to play 1 or 2 seasons, without a long-term outlook.

I just looked up this year's draft and there were 2 CB's taken in the 2nd round:
Rams' Janoris Jenkins: OVR 78
Green Bay's Casey Hayward (2nd to last in the round): OVR 70
So to answer your question of "How many 2nd round rookies are going to be mid 70's with that type of skill set right out of the draft?"... 100% of them. Hayward doesn't have the man coverage skill set (72), but his zone coverage is rated at an 89. I'm pretty sure you'd be able to get him to OVR 73, like House is now, by his 2nd year.

I'm glad we have a trade committee, and applaud them for their work. I think the 2nd and 3rd rd draft picks is a much fairer compensation. Also, I'm happy for you that you got your deal done. I honestly was just trying to help you out, I thought you were giving up way too much for what you were getting in return.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']More playoff wins: Schaub or Yates?[/QUOTE]

lol..
More super bowl wins: Dilfer or Marino?
More NBA titles: Charles Barkley or Antoine Walker?
This could go on forever
 
Cowboys 14, Giants 6

Cowboys take advantage of two Eli interceptions and the Giants inability to get into the end zone despite three trips to the red zone. The killer was a pick in the end zone with the Giants driving in the fourth.
 
I'm pretty sure GibsonGamer(gamertag: Drakenstar) is not going to play. I sent him a message here...then like I said earlier, he hasen't posted here in a month and I think his only post ever was signing up for the league. So I sent him a message over Xbox Live and a friend request. I saw him on and asked him if he was still in the league...he didn't respond then rejected my friend request. Maybe i'm jumping the gun a bit as I like to schedule my games as soon as possible, otherwise it bugs me. It could have been someone else on his 360 but to not have posted here in over a month is not a good sign.
 
[quote name='shotgunshine']I'm pretty sure GibsonGamer(gamertag: Drakenstar) is not going to play. I sent him a message here...then like I said earlier, he hasen't posted here in a month and I think his only post ever was signing up for the league. So I sent him a message over Xbox Live and a friend request. I saw him on and asked him if he was still in the league...he didn't respond then rejected my friend request. Maybe i'm jumping the gun a bit as I like to schedule my games as soon as possible, otherwise it bugs me. It could have been someone else on his 360 but to not have posted here in over a month is not a good sign.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, honestly, I half expected him to never accept his invite. I had noticed the same thing about him not being on CAG for quite some time. And I got no response to the PM's I sent either. Then, all of a sudden, one day, he was joined as the Raiders.

Here's how these situations are going to work. At this point, we have nobody left on the waiting list. So, I hate to say it, but even an absentee owner is better than a straight up CPU team that is free to do as they please with free agency and whatnot. So, let me know the absolute latest time you would like to play this game...and if you haven't scheduled the game with him by then, I'll switch him to auto pilot and you can just play the CPU. Does that sound reasonable?
 
[quote name='shotgunshine']Sounds good to me. Time wise I can do today(9/26) at 8pm CST.[/QUOTE]

The deadline isn't until 11:59 PM EST on the 28th. Can you not play the 27th or 28th? Maybe my wording was confusing. What I meant was when is the last time before the deadline that you can play? Obviously, I don't want to screw you out of playing the game...but if there's still time, there's probably no harm in giving him a chance to respond either.
 
[quote name='snakemaster2389']i'll be able to play my game tomorrow night[/QUOTE]

You could answer my PM about your availability rather than just announcing in the thread to everyone that you'll be able to play generally tomorrow night. But do whatever works for you. I just want to get this season started.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']The deadline isn't until 11:59 PM EST on the 28th. Can you not play the 27th or 28th? Maybe my wording was confusing. What I meant was when is the last time before the deadline that you can play? Obviously, I don't want to screw you out of playing the game...but if there's still time, there's probably no harm in giving him a chance to respond either.[/QUOTE]


I can do the same time...just move it back to the 28th.
 
[quote name='CAGLeagueSports']Oh, also, I wanted to say, DarkRider got back to me and he will be taking over the Broncos. So, we are full again![/QUOTE]

Indeed. I look forward to playing my first game. I am going to get a PM to my opponent in a minute.

I just thought I would check-in in the thread. (I will be accepting the invite next time I am on this evening.)
 
[quote name='dr0ppinL0adz']LOL at Jennings being worth a 1st rd pick. If you honestly believe an NFL team would make that trade for a 30 year old WR, then so be it. We obviously have a huge difference in opinion on that. Just seems like a trade that would be made for someone looking to play 1 or 2 seasons, without a long-term outlook.

I just looked up this year's draft and there were 2 CB's taken in the 2nd round:
Rams' Janoris Jenkins: OVR 78
Green Bay's Casey Hayward (2nd to last in the round): OVR 70
So to answer your question of "How many 2nd round rookies are going to be mid 70's with that type of skill set right out of the draft?"... 100% of them. Hayward doesn't have the man coverage skill set (72), but his zone coverage is rated at an 89. I'm pretty sure you'd be able to get him to OVR 73, like House is now, by his 2nd year.

I'm glad we have a trade committee, and applaud them for their work. I think the 2nd and 3rd rd draft picks is a much fairer compensation. Also, I'm happy for you that you got your deal done. I honestly was just trying to help you out, I thought you were giving up way too much for what you were getting in return.[/QUOTE]

First, your having a difficult time seperating real life and Madden. In real life is Jennings worth a first? Easily no. In Madden is a 90 plus ovr receiver with 94 speed and acceleration with a high catch worth a first. Easily yes.

Secondly, janoris is a special case of a first round talent dropping because of off field problems. Casey heyward is a 70 but does not have close to the man or press coverage of house, hence why I said they don't have the measurables I look for. His zone coverage could be a 99 but that doesn't help me at all. This is another situation where you are having a hard time seperating real life and Madden. We don't know what kind of players are actually going to be going in the second round of the Madden draft.

Lastly, people are putting to much stock into draft picks IMO. Yeah there nice but at some point you need the pieces to win now especially in a league that would only go 3-5 years.
 
I can take over for that Gibson guy if you all want, or be added to the waiting list as I just purchased Madden. Good to see a bunch of NHL/NCAA league names in here as well.
 
I'd like to play my wk. 1 game, but my opposing coach had to drop out of the league. Should I go ahead and play the CPU or wait for a human controlled coach to take up the Broncos?
 
just a curious question but when will the leagues first FA period be done i know tis early just curious is all
 
[quote name='Swift900']I'd like to play my wk. 1 game, but my opposing coach had to drop out of the league. Should I go ahead and play the CPU or wait for a human controlled coach to take up the Broncos?[/QUOTE]

I pmed you a few hours ago about setting up our game. It would be preferred if you would respond to that before asking to play the CPU.
 
I'd like to play my wk. 1 game, but my opposing coach had to drop out of the league. Should I go ahead and play the CPU or wait for a human controlled coach to take up the Broncos?
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Just wait for the human, don't try playing the CPU and getting an easy win when you know the replacement is just waiting to accept the invite. That's just shady.
 
Wow. For being Gentlemen, you guys sure are a hostile bunch. I wasn't asking to play the computer, I was simply asking what I should do... And I accessed the forum from my phone, which does not alert me if I've received a PM, so how was I supposed to know you sent me a message, Dark Rider?

And I'm pretty sure that I wasn't trying to get an easy win off the CPU as it routinely kicks my ass on All Pro...
 
[quote name='Swift900']Wow. For being Gentlemen, you guys sure are a hostile bunch. I wasn't asking to play the computer, I was simply asking what I should do... And I accessed the forum from my phone, which does not alert me if I've received a PM, so how was I supposed to know you sent me a message, Dark Rider?

And I'm pretty sure that I wasn't trying to get an easy win off the CPU as it routinely kicks my ass on All Pro...[/QUOTE]

Set it so you get an email when you get a pm, problem solved.
 
me and fsecrest won't be able to play our week 1 game until saturday night at the earliest, because of our conflicting schedules this week as he is on the west coast.

is that alright with everyone?
 
i would say its fine with me but try not to make it a habit but in the long run this call is up to N8
 
[quote name='Swift900']I'd like to play my wk. 1 game, but my opposing coach had to drop out of the league. Should I go ahead and play the CPU or wait for a human controlled coach to take up the Broncos?[/QUOTE]

I think his point was just to try to keep up with the thread. By the time you posted this, the previous owner of the Broncos had already dropped and been replaced (which is reflected in the OP). And the new owner posted in here saying he would join this evening...and it sounds like he PM'd you too.

Obviously, having a team drop is not an ideal situation, but it's being handled as smoothly and as quickly as it could be. I think the only reason you got responses like that is because your post made it sound like you were unaware that a new owner had already been lined up. Most likely just miscommunication. You guys still have 3 evenings to get the game played. No need for anyone to make a big deal out of it.

[quote name='DVO21']just a curious question but when will the leagues first FA period be done i know tis early just curious is all[/QUOTE]

Read the OP, noob.

[quote name='scrub0bk']me and fsecrest won't be able to play our week 1 game until saturday night at the earliest, because of our conflicting schedules this week as he is on the west coast.

is that alright with everyone?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, this is the worst weekend that could happen. I'm moving this weekend, and won't have internet access from Saturday until Monday/Tuesday. So, I need this week advanced on time. Besides, somebody could have something like this happen every week. If we don't keep the schedule moving, we're not going to get through many seasons.
 
[quote name='Flyersfan']I can take over for that Gibson guy if you all want, or be added to the waiting list as I just purchased Madden. Good to see a bunch of NHL/NCAA league names in here as well.[/QUOTE]

I'll definitely add you to the waiting list, man. I'm sure it won't be long before another spot opens up.

What this means for everyone else...what I said before, about not minding if we have absentee owners is still true. HOWEVER, if there's somebody ready and willing to take your spot, it would be in your best interest to make sure you're active and playing your games. If someone isn't playing their games and doesn't seem to care about their spot here, don't be surprised if it gets given to someone who actually wants it.
 
[quote name='shotgunshine']So if Gibson doesn't message me about our game, will I play Flyersfan or the AI?[/QUOTE]

Well, try messaging GibsonGamer on XBL today and see if you get any kind of response. If you don't hear back from him by tomorrow, then yeah...we'll try to get something worked out with Flyersfan.

Trying to be as fair as I can about this. I don't want to just throw the guy out of the league, but at the same time...I don't know how people sign up for these things without the understanding that at least checking in every couple days might be a good idea.
 
N8, think about banning the squib kick if you haven't already.

If done correctly, it can be recovered every time. Just happened in my last two ranked matches.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']N8, think about banning the squib kick if you haven't already.

If done correctly, it can be recovered every time. Just happened in my last two ranked matches.[/QUOTE]

I've heard people complain about this but i have yet to see anyone actually pull it off.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']N8, think about banning the squib kick if you haven't already.

If done correctly, it can be recovered every time. Just happened in my last two ranked matches.[/QUOTE]

Well, doing it on every kick off is pretty standard "douchebag procedure" anyway. You think it's bad enough to even ban it situationally though? I was wondering if there was something similar on punts.

Hemingway seemed to be intentionally shanking punts in our game yesterday, which was making them skip along the field, and my players had a way harder time than they should have recovering them. I was just coming in here to ask him what that was.

I don't mind people kicking for the sideline, but this just seemed "Maddeny" Special teams in this game really is terrible with how easily it is to return punts/kicks...and then how horrible the return team is if you kick it any other way.
 
[quote name='jza1218']Cowboys 14, Giants 6

Cowboys take advantage of two Eli interceptions and the Giants inability to get into the end zone despite three trips to the red zone. The killer was a pick in the end zone with the Giants driving in the fourth.[/QUOTE]

I was sweating that game out man! The Giants driving the field with me scrambling to find a defense that could slow you down a bit. Looked like it was a bit of "bend but don't break" working in my favor. Still...very enjoyable game and good sportsmanship from you.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']N8, think about banning the squib kick if you haven't already.

If done correctly, it can be recovered every time. Just happened in my last two ranked matches.[/QUOTE]

Don't completely ban the squib kick. Maybe just leave it as a "don't be a dick" rule and address it more formally if someone starts using it when they shouldn't be. Anyone squib kicking all game will probably be removed from the league pretty quickly anyways because they aren't playing realistically.

I'd hate to be forced to kick the ball to Devin Hester when I am up by 2 points and with 3 seconds left in the game. A squib kick would seal the win for me but a normal kick could result in Hester taking it to the house.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, doing it on every kick off is pretty standard "douchebag procedure" anyway. You think it's bad enough to even ban it situationally though? I was wondering if there was something similar on punts.

Hemingway seemed to be intentionally shanking punts in our game yesterday, which was making them skip along the field, and my players had a way harder time than they should have recovering them. I was just coming in here to ask him what that was.

I don't mind people kicking for the sideline, but this just seemed "Maddeny" Special teams in this game really is terrible with how easily it is to return punts/kicks...and then how horrible the return team is if you kick it any other way.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I do honestly believe it's bad enough to be banned.

As for punts, if angled correctly near the boundaries, the returner will try to catch it but the ball will just bounce off their leg. I've had that happen to me as well.

Just another cheap way to get the ball back.


[quote name='JoelyPoley']Don't completely ban the squib kick. Maybe just leave it as a "don't be a dick" rule and address it more formally if someone starts using it when they shouldn't be. Anyone squib kicking all game will probably be removed from the league pretty quickly anyways because they aren't playing realistically.

I'd hate to be forced to kick the ball to Devin Hester when I am up by 2 points and with 3 seconds left in the game. A squib kick would seal the win for me but a normal kick could result in Hester taking it to the house.[/QUOTE]

So say that situation does arise and I'm the Bears. You squib, fair enough.

You squib and recover? Yeah, that's stress I don't need.. :lol:

Even if it's just one time, it can still happen. The kick return AI is brain dead.
 
[quote name='JoelyPoley']Don't completely ban the squib kick. Maybe just leave it as a "don't be a dick" rule and address it more formally if someone starts using it when they shouldn't be. Anyone squib kicking all game will probably be removed from the league pretty quickly anyways because they aren't playing realistically.

I'd hate to be forced to kick the ball to Devin Hester when I am up by 2 points and with 3 seconds left in the game. A squib kick would seal the win for me but a normal kick could result in Hester taking it to the house.[/QUOTE]

So say that situation does arise and I'm the Bears. You squib, fair enough.

You squib and recover? Yeah, that's stress I don't need.. :lol:

Even if it's just one time, it can still happen. The kick return AI is brain dead.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']So say that situation does arise and I'm the Bears. You squib, fair enough.

You squib and recover? Yeah, that's stress I don't need.. :lol:

Even if it's just one time, it can still happen. The kick return AI is brain dead.[/QUOTE]

There is no difference between a squib that you recover with 0 seconds left in the game and a squib that i recover as the kicking team with 0 seconds left in the game. The game is over either way. But had i kicked it deep you could have returned it, or took the fair catch and ran one last play to win the game.
 
[quote name='JoelyPoley']There is no difference between a squib that you recover with 0 seconds left in the game and a squib that i recover as the kicking team with 0 seconds left in the game. The game is over either way. But had i kicked it deep you could have returned it, or took the fair catch and ran one last play to win the game.[/QUOTE]

True, though there's still a shot something odd can happen and I get out of bounds, if squib works correctly.

Just saying it's a problem EA needs to address.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Yeah, I do honestly believe it's bad enough to be banned.

As for punts, if angled correctly near the boundaries, the returner will try to catch it but the ball will just bounce off their leg. I've had that happen to me as well.

Just another cheap way to get the ball back.[/QUOTE]

Weird. I don't even think my returner was getting to the ball in time. The way the game was reacting to the punt, it was like in the preseason when your kicker would get put in to punt. The screen would kind of zoom in when it flipped around, and it looked like the ball was hitting off the side of the punter's foot. But it would go maybe 30-40 yards. I was able to recover it every time...but by the time one of my guys got to it, his defenders were right there too, so it was pretty nerve racking.

I'd like to hear Hemingway's explanation of what he was trying to do because there was just something about it that didn't feel right. Like I said, if the intent is to not allow a return, then angle it out of bounds. Skipping it along the field does make it seem like you're trying to get the ball back. I do feel this needs to be looked into.

As for completely banning the squib kick...I do think Joely Poley's example is relevant...and like he said, even if he did somehow manage to recover it, it wouldn't make any difference...as long as it was at the end of the game and he was winning. You would have to limit a similar situation at the end of the 1st half though...because if the kicking team recovered the squib with time left, they could be in field goal range or have a decent shot at a hail mary.

That would basically only leave one situation where kicking a squib is ok... :05 or less with a lead in the 4th quarter. Honestly, it's just another example of EA's horrible programming, and the fact that they have no clue how the sport is supposed to play.
 
That would basically only leave one situation where kicking a squib is ok... :05 or less with a lead in the 4th quarter. Honestly, it's just another example of EA's horrible programming, and the fact that they have no clue how the sport is supposed to play.
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I think that is fair enough. You really shouldn't be using squib at any other time anyways.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Weird. I don't even think my returner was getting to the ball in time. The way the game was reacting to the punt, it was like in the preseason when your kicker would get put in to punt. The screen would kind of zoom in when it flipped around, and it looked like the ball was hitting off the side of the punter's foot. But it would go maybe 30-40 yards. I was able to recover it every time...but by the time one of my guys got to it, his defenders were right there too, so it was pretty nerve racking.

I'd like to hear Hemingway's explanation of what he was trying to do because there was just something about it that didn't feel right. Like I said, if the intent is to not allow a return, then angle it out of bounds. Skipping it along the field does make it seem like you're trying to get the ball back. I do feel this needs to be looked into.[/QUOTE]

The reason he angles it like that is to try and get it to skip further down the field. Doing it this way just is a safer way to get around the same yardage of a regular punt, without the danger of a return. Since it is pretty easy to get a punt return he punts this way. Personally, i angle my punts high and my punts don't go as far but i rarely have any returns against me. Honestly, the other punting method is fairly risky as well because if a person plans for it they can catch a fairly short punt with a lot of space to return.

And he can't recover a punt(if he touches it before you do it just downs it, it's not like a kickoff, possession of the ball would still be yours.) without you touching it, so i'm not sure what you mean by he was trying to get the ball back by angling it away from you.

Just responding for him basically cause he's still going to be at work for a couple of hours and it seemed like you wanted answers now.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']As for completely banning the squib kick...I do think Joely Poley's example is relevant...and like he said, even if he did somehow manage to recover it, it wouldn't make any difference...as long as it was at the end of the game and he was winning. You would have to limit a similar situation at the end of the 1st half though...because if the kicking team recovered the squib with time left, they could be in field goal range or have a decent shot at a hail mary.

That would basically only leave one situation where kicking a squib is ok... :05 or less with a lead in the 4th quarter. Honestly, it's just another example of EA's horrible programming, and the fact that they have no clue how the sport is supposed to play.[/QUOTE]

I agree that we shouldn't ban the squib kick because of the situation Joely Poley described. While it is possible to recover the kick, maybe if it happens at the end of the first half we should require the kicking (recovering) team to take a knee.
 
[quote name='JoelyPoley']I think that is fair enough. You really shouldn't be using squib at any other time anyways.[/QUOTE]

End of the 1st half also.
 
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