Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - Gen. Discussion & Info

question: Does the Perk "Double Tap" make a gun feel less steady?

example, I put "Double Tap" on a sub-machine gun class weapon, and I was spraying all over the place. I hit everything EXCEPT my target.
 
[quote name='level1online']question: Does the Perk "Double Tap" make a gun feel less steady?

example, I put "Double Tap" on a sub-machine gun class weapon, and I was spraying all over the place. I hit everything EXCEPT my target.[/QUOTE]

Well a good way to combat that is to use Steady Aim as your third perk to help keep you from shooting all over everywhere.
 
[quote name='soccerstud652']Does CoD4 have co-op on the same xbox? Thanks![/quote]
Offline Multiplayer - YES
Online Multiplayer - NO
Story Mode - NO
 
[quote name='cdeener']Well a good way to combat that is to use Steady Aim as your third perk to help keep you from shooting all over everywhere.[/quote]

isnt steady aim just for hip shooting though? i feel that my shooting is more erratic with double tap even when im scoping (with red dot)
 
[quote name='cdeener']Well a good way to combat that is to use Steady Aim as your third perk to help keep you from shooting all over everywhere.[/quote]
[quote name='omgu8myrice']isnt steady aim just for hip shooting though? i feel that my shooting is more erratic with double tap even when im scoping (with red dot)[/quote]

I agree with both you guys.

but I've only found "Steady Aim" to be effective when I'm No-Scoping/Hip shooting.

So far, for me, Double Tap has been very useful w/ Light-Machine weapon class.

Honestly, thats the most fun I've had with COD4, trying out different Perk combinations. Sometimes I fall flat on my ass, other times, I get to call in the chopper. :D
 
[quote name='RawisJericho']I just don't think it is fair for the sniper location to be given away just by watching the kill cam. Instead of the kill cam they should have an increased radius on the radar when the rifle is shot. Someone in a guile suit that is well hidden in the grass should not have their position given away by the kill cam is all that I'm saying.[/quote]

If the killcam stays scoped in the entire time, it can be hard to figure out the snipers position. Ive been sniped before, and was only able to figure out what side of the map they were on, not exactly where they were. A good sniper should move on to a new spot every few kills anyway. Whenever I get killed by someone sniping or camping, the first thing I do is go see if they are foolish enough to still be there.

If anything, not showing up on someones killcam should be a perk.
 
Snipers are annoying, I hate playing some maps because a whole team does it.

Crossfire, and Overgrown come to mind. I have no problem with even 3 snipers, but when everyone is doing it..
 
Speaking of things that are annoying....

...people who hide in a dark, dark shadow near the entrance of rooms... grrrrr!!!!

I guess that's what the perk "Martyrdom" is for. ;)
 
[quote name='level1online']Speaking of things that are annoying....

...people who hide in a dark, dark shadow near the entrance of rooms... grrrrr!!!!

I guess that's what the perk "Martyrdom" is for. ;)[/quote]

Its pretty easy to spot them once you know where all the dark corners are and equip your Nightvision (it aint there for show!) and pick em off when they turn their back.

Also...Some idiots dont understand that when your playing Team Hardcore TAKE OFF THE fuckEN MARTYDOM....First round I played with a guy, He pokes his head up and gets his brain blown out next thing i know there's a grenade meter popping up and all I can think is YOU fuckEN DIPSHIT!!...The whole team died in 5 seconds.
 
I get the most frustated when I get killed by a camper, I go to see if they're still there, and they are, and they kill me again. Man that fuckin pisses me off!
 
[quote name='level1online']I agree with both you guys.

but I've only found "Steady Aim" to be effective when I'm No-Scoping/Hip shooting.

So far, for me, Double Tap has been very useful w/ Light-Machine weapon class.

Honestly, thats the most fun I've had with COD4, trying out different Perk combinations. Sometimes I fall flat on my ass, other times, I get to call in the chopper. :D[/quote]

calling in the chopper is extremely satisfying...probably for me especially because i suck and hardly ever get to do it :cool:
 
[quote name='Puffa469']If anything, not showing up on someones killcam should be a perk.[/QUOTE]
Thats an awesome idea. I picture it as showing the Killcam HUD but with a scrambled picture or ERROR!!! showing. That would be insane.
 
Killcam is meant to combat camping, there are so many places to hide it would be way to easy to have UAV Jammer+Silenced m16+No kill cam and never be found...
 
Does anyone else feel like this game's MP is a bit shallow? Sure it has tons of ranking up and all that, but it doesn't mean anything. All the high level means is that you played a lot.
 
[quote name='help1']Does anyone else feel like this game's MP is a bit shallow? Sure it has tons of ranking up and all that, but it doesn't mean anything. All the high level means is that you played a lot.[/quote]

Agreed, though usually a high prestige means they are pretty good, sometimes it just means they are 7 year olds who play all day after school. (Wow, I hate those 7 year olds who are like "I killed him!!!" every two seconds...)
 
[quote name='ep2011']Agreed, though usually a high prestige means they are pretty good, sometimes it just means they are 7 year olds who play all day after school. (Wow, I hate those 7 year olds who are like "I killed him!!!" every two seconds...)[/quote]
Yea, I guess prestige means that you are able to level up fast in a short amount of time after release, but that too could also mean that you just played a lot. Has this game already been infiltrated by little kids? When my 360 broke, there weren't too many kids on COD 4.

On the PC version, no one uses mics so you don't know who is what age.
 
[quote name='help1']Yea, I guess prestige means that you are able to level up fast in a short amount of time after release, but that too could also mean that you just played a lot. Has this game already been infiltrated by little kids? When my 360 broke, there weren't too many kids on COD 4.

On the PC version, no one uses mics so you don't know who is what age.[/quote]

I would say for me, in headquarters, every couple of matches there is a little kid, but there not *always* really annoying...
 
[quote name='help1']Does anyone else feel like this game's MP is a bit shallow? Sure it has tons of ranking up and all that, but it doesn't mean anything. All the high level means is that you played a lot.[/quote]

the ranking isnt as good as halo's but i dont think its enough to call the MP shallow. its still very fun and has plenty of variety
 
[quote name='help1']Does anyone else feel like this game's MP is a bit shallow? Sure it has tons of ranking up and all that, but it doesn't mean anything. All the high level means is that you played a lot.[/quote]

Im almost done with my third prestige, but, Ive been unemployed since the game came out, so I had the time.

I start my new job tomorrow, so no more prestige for me. I think Im gonna work towards completing all challenges and getting my golden guns.
 
[quote name='omgu8myrice']the ranking isnt as good as halo's but i dont think its enough to call the MP shallow. its still very fun and has plenty of variety[/quote]
You gotta be kidding me! Halo's ranking sucks
 
[quote name='mvp828']Found my new guilty pleasure today...

Any sniper rifle+iron lungs+stopping power+bandolier[/quote]

I might have to try Badolier. I usually use Deep Impact. Always running out of ammo with my R700, but I never thought of using badolier.
 
meh prestige mode isnt a good way to judge someones skill. Play headquarters and you dont even need to get any kills to get like 300-400 pts a match
 
[quote name='Mojimbo']There's aren't grenade indicators in Hardcore, right?

No kill cam is one of the best features of playing that mode.[/quote]

Im sorry......WHAT?
 
I have a question, when i get my last perk unlocked, the grid that they appear on to show unlocked after he game, it looked as if there was one more perk, but no more lvls to unlock, anyone have any idea?
 
i just really hate joining games on the lossing team and there is only 30 seconds left and no way of winning and you are forced to take the loss.
 
[quote name='Mojimbo']There aren't grenade indicators in Hardcore, right?

No kill cam is one of the best features of playing that mode.[/quote]

After playing hardcore for about the past 3 weeks straight and going through three level 55 prestige levels, you dont ever want to play a different version of the game.

Hardcore is the fucking best part about this game.
 
Are the games ranked? I mean when i first start playing, am I put with other people at my skill level? everyone i'm playing against has like, 30-40 exp. i have, 4.
Also, i wish you got more pts for kills on higher ranked players, i killed some 52 level dude the first game i played, and only got 5 pts for it.
 
I dont know how they make the teams. I imagine they try to balance the skill out but relaly dont know what factors tehy use to do this.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']I dont know how they make the teams. I imagine they try to balance the skill out but relaly dont know what factors tehy use to do this.[/quote]

Honestly, I've seen very little to indicate there's any balance at all.
 
I personally can't wait for this update. I typically play with a group of friends, but because of the playlist issue only one of them can host us all in a party. He LOVES to play team tactical if there are only 3 of us. I should say he loves to start one up, but during play he yells and screams that the other team is cheating because he's getting reamed. The problem is that we always get paired up against solid teams that often practice and figure out the finer points of each map (which we do not take the time to do).

We always get absolutely destroyed, but my friend never seems to remember this, nor does he remember how pissed off he gets. Of course if I bring this up when he says "I'm gonna find a team tactical match for us" he gets belligerent.

So yeah, I'm looking forward to this update.
 
[quote name='Dragonsbane']I have a question, when i git my last perk unlocked, the grid taht they appear on to show unlocked after he game, it looked as if there was one more perk, but no more lvls to unlock, anyone have any idea?[/quote]

git? really? git? The rest of that sentence is an abomination, but git? Little too much moonshine last night?
 
[quote name='ThatDamnDave']git? really? git? The rest of that sentence is an abomination, but git? Little too much moonshine last night?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was a little off my grammar game on that one, fixed though.
 
I have a problem with people ragging on others' grammar unless its really bad or unintelligible. At the same time I try to use good grammar and re-read what I've written before I post it. Still IMO, pointing out others' bad grammer is petty.

ThatDamnDave, I have CAGCOD4 as a freind but still dunno how to check CAGCOD4's friend list. I've also noticed that the account is not online all that often, but someone earlier said it doesnt have to be online for me to check its friends list right?

Anyway I'll be playin tonight. Got my K/D ratio up to around .75 (from .56) which is good. The only good thing about having it that shitty is that even games where its 1 or around 1 improves it.

A 10 kill to 10 death or 12 kill and 12 death game is avg for me now. I play alot of HQtrs and TeamDM.
 
[quote name='ThatDamnDave']git? really? git? The rest of that sentence is an abomination, but git? Little too much moonshine last night?[/quote]

C'mon! Don't correct other people and then make mistakes yourself.
 
[quote name='pittpizza']ThatDamnDave, I have CAGCOD4 as a freind but still dunno how to check CAGCOD4's friend list. I've also noticed that the account is not online all that often, but someone earlier said it doesnt have to be online for me to check its friends list right?
[/quote]

No, the gamertag does not have to be online to check its list. Find it in your friends list, click A and then move the stick right to enter the "Profile" section. There's an option there that says something along the lines of "View Friends" or something.

Oh, and git is a major offense. Capitalization is pretty minor. No one likes a grammar corrector, I'm aware. Tough to not sound like a dick, no one's perfect, etc. I know. Life of an editor.
 
That update sounds awesome. Right now the R700 is absolutely unusable for me, while I've managed to complete every other sniper rifle Marksman challenge at least once. Last night I shot the same camping sniper what I thought to be three times in the head and I never got the kill. I switch over to the generic sniper class and used the M40A3 and tagged him no problem.
 
[quote name='smalien1']Are the games ranked? I mean when i first start playing, am I put with other people at my skill level? everyone i'm playing against has like, 30-40 exp. i have, 4.
Also, i wish you got more pts for kills on higher ranked players, i killed some 52 level dude the first game i played, and only got 5 pts for it.[/quote]

From what Ive seen, not at all. The thing is, if they were to rank games, it could only really be done by prestige rank, and not level. Cos you level up so fast. The difference between level 1 and level 20 is about 3-4 hours of playtime. Its not like in Halo where each level can take days or weeks to achieve.

I think at least for the first 55 levels, they shouldnt stick those people with prestige ranks at all. Im level 45 of the third prestige, which is level 210 overall, and Im routinely stuck in matches with extremely low level players.


I tend to stick to HQ, Hardcore, and S&D, and you rarely see ultra low levels there, but when Im trying to quickly level up a gun, or get some challenges, I'll go slumming in FFA, or Team Death, and I actually feel bad beating up on level 1's, or sigle digit levels. They dont have any perks or good guns, they dont know the maps, and here I come with days of playtime and I kill them over and over. I dont want to ruin their fun and their initial experience withthe game. I think prestige players should only be matched with other prestige players.
 
Got this as an early Xmas gift from my gf. Played through the first act today, and it was really well done. Went back and played the prologue again on Veteran for an easy 40 achievement points.

I haven't had a chance to play this multiplayer (well except the beta of course), but I'm looking forward to getting really into it when I get back to college.
 
[quote name='smalien1']Martyrdom is fucking killing me! Especially because I like doing knife/shotgun kills.[/QUOTE]

I only die to that when I get greedy and I try and kill more before I run away.

The only time i use it is when I use a shotgun only.

Extreme conditioning is the shit.

[quote name='Puffa469']I think prestige players should only be matched with other prestige players.[/QUOTE]

Then I wouldn't get any fun
 
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