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Think cod has hit it's peak and it'll die down like the music game business did for activision which is why I think they're milking cod for everything they can, while they can.
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While I'm not a big fan of this installment, people have been saying COD "has hit its peak" for, what, HOW many years now? I'm guessing at some point someone will be right, but this is a franchise that has basically become the defining one in terms of sales for this generation and there's going to have to be a real, major shift over time for that to change.

The music games felt like a fad to me more than anything else, drawing in a lot of "casual" gamers almost like how the Wii sold like hotcakes for a few years. Sure casual games play COD too but it's not really equivalent IMO because it appeals to the hardcore gamer as well. Look at the sales numbers from last year or, heck, last week. COD is going nowhere -- and even if there's a drop-off, why would they suddenly stop making games? So they sell 5 million copies instead of 6 million next year...that's not profitable for them?

Frankly I don't even think one game a year is even "milking" it...multiple releases in a year would be. I just want to see better MP maps and a better campaign than MW3, which is something Black Ops had in both departments. As disappointed as I am, I'm still going to get more use out of this game than most and I predict next year's game will be received better than this one. Maybe all the behind the scenes developer issues trickled down to the final product this time.
 
Yeah BLOPS was solid and I never understood the complaints. All of my friends that I've talked to say they'd rather be playin that than MW3 at this point. Here's hopin the DLC maps are better.

It could also be that there are 16 maps. Maybe there's 6 solid maps in there being overshadowed by 10 shitty ones. Who knows.
 
I don't think the series has peaked in terms of sales/popularity most likely.

I think it's jumped the shark in terms of being something I want to keep playing every year.

Sold my Elite codes last night, and I'll ditch the game on Goozex as soon as I get my hacked Live account back and can blow through the campaign and get some achievements.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I don't think the series has peaked in terms of sales/popularity most likely.

I think it's jumped the shark in terms of being something I want to keep playing every year.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

I feel like the cod series is becoming the new madden, instead of mw4 they should just go with COD '13 lol
 
The glitches and infinitely spawning enemies caused me not to finish BLOPS campaign, only one I haven't finished other than 1 and 2.

But the MP in BLOPS is leaps and bounds better than MW3.
 
Personally I liked things from BLOPS and things from MW3. For example, I like the overall leveling system thats in place in MW3, and love the gun selection. However, the maps and game modes were a crapton better in BLOPS. Also, I hate how easy quickscoping has become in MW3. At least in MW2 it took skill to do it. Last night I was in a game where the entire opposing team was quickscoping. I really hope that MW3 gets a ton of patches within the coming weeks, since alot of stuff in it is sorta broken (ALL guns need to have their damage toned down, QS needs a nerf, shotguns need their range adjusted, etc.)
 
Yeah...this has already worked itself out of my rotation of active games. I have put very little into the MP but the SpecOps is enough to know that this game is just not my type.

Its more of the same just faster.
 
Looks like I really found my groove in this game. I'm rocking a 1.22 kdr and today I had three GREAT matches. One match I ended 17-0 (christ I wish I was running assault instead of support), then the one after I went 21-5 top player (kill confirmed, got a lot of recon drone tags etc), and in a domination match ended 38-14 iirc, I DWARFED everyone on the scoreboard, ended with 3850 while the second place in our team had 2450 and first place on their team ended with 1950.

Before this I wasn't doing bad, but I had a 1-1 kdr and was hovering a bit bad, like 7-11 and stuff, I was usually the top player though with all my assists and support stuff though. But today, man today... christ I hope I wasn't just playing with really bad players.
 
I'm enjoying MW3 a lot. Already logged about 15 hours. I'm a level 70 with a 1.76 KDR. Add me if you guys wanna play, just lemme know you're from CAG. But yeah, the game is way more fun to play with friends.

Edit: when I think about MW3, I just forget that Black Ops ever existed. They're totally different games. It makes more sense to compare it to MW2.
 
ACR = win. Tried it a bit and while I'm not used to not having much in the way of attachments (level 31 with the Type 95, so...) its recoil-less shooting did me a lot of good at long range, where the Type 95 was failing me. Not too bad in the straight damage department either, unlike MW2 where it was mostly a pea-shooter.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']ACR = win. Tried it a bit and while I'm not used to not having much in the way of attachments (level 31 with the Type 95, so...) its recoil-less shooting did me a lot of good at long range, where the Type 95 was failing me. Not too bad in the straight damage department either, unlike MW2 where it was mostly a pea-shooter.[/QUOTE]

yup, ACR is great. been my primary gun since i unlocked it. but now imu using ACR most of the time. sometimes i'll use the AK-47, which is great with kick and a suppressor.
 
[quote name='DCpinoy']yup, ACR is great. been my primary gun since i unlocked it. but now imu using ACR most of the time. sometimes i'll use the AK-47, which is great with kick and a suppressor.[/QUOTE]

I've picked up an AK-47 a couple of times, usually suppressed for some reason and it is seriously powerful IMO. Controllable recoil as well...I will probably be using it and testing it out once I unlock it.
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']ACR = win. Tried it a bit and while I'm not used to not having much in the way of attachments (level 31 with the Type 95, so...) its recoil-less shooting did me a lot of good at long range, where the Type 95 was failing me. Not too bad in the straight damage department either, unlike MW2 where it was mostly a pea-shooter.[/QUOTE]

acr with fmj+stopping power in mw2 was great ;)
 
I picked up the M14, can't remember the actual name in the game and it's nasty, cant believe it kills people in 1 or 2 shots. I've killed people close to mid range in 1 shot, not sure if they were already injured, but then shot someone twice in the leg from range and they died. Can't wait to unlock it.


Not really sure what the purpose is of steady aim when all the guns have horrible hip fire accuracy as it is.


Also, is the youtube linking/theater upload function broken? Every time I have try and link my youtube account the connection times out.
 
[quote name='hustletron']
Not really sure what the purpose is of steady aim when all the guns have horrible hip fire accuracy as it is.

.[/QUOTE]

not sure what gun your using, but the p90 with steady aim and a silencer is great for hip-firing
 
[quote name='crzyjoeguy']not sure what gun your using, but the p90 with steady aim and a silencer is great for hip-firing[/QUOTE]


Yeah I use the P90, I get a few hit markers but it just fires wildly, I guess maybe you can see more effectiveness with the akimbo weapons.
 
[quote name='hustletron']Yeah I use the P90, I get a few hit markers but it just fires wildly, I guess maybe you can see more effectiveness with the akimbo weapons.[/QUOTE]

With a silencer I found great success with it, even without bursting at mid-range. I picked it up once while on a high killstreak and torn everyone up with it. Solid gun, much better then when I used it in MW2.
 
yeah i have been running the scar but should switch to acr soon.
i tried that xm25 grenade launcher, ehh... i couldnt get any kills on it.
i rocked it the other day 21/3, but it is alot harder to do well than blops.
very much mw2.5, while in blops i was rocking 20/1 etc and getting a chopper gunner every other match.
i guess i need to train more, about level 55 and 17 hours in i think.
but yeah, everyone was bashing on blops mp, but in my opinion i liked blops mp more.
we will see, these things tend to grow on you...
just started spec ops and survival and campaign last night...eh
 
Okay guys, I gotta dilemma. I have perchance upon 5600 MS points for 56 dollars, and I think I want MW3 prestige, as i bought the regular version. Care to sway me? I'm gonna be playing it tonnes, thats for sure, but I just don't wanna through that money so willy nilly like that.
 
[quote name='RobMinhas']Okay guys, I gotta dilemma. I have perchance upon 5600 MS points for 56 dollars, and I think I want MW3 prestige, as i bought the regular version. Care to sway me? I'm gonna be playing it tonnes, thats for sure, but I just don't wanna through that money so willy nilly like that.[/QUOTE]

yeah im not sure what i personally want to do either. i mean the map selection on disc isnt very good, and i only 'like' a few maps... so if the map packs are just as poor (imo), ill be kinda pissed i spent another $50 on them... so im not sure what i will do about that, i may just say screw it and hope they deliver better maps and go ahead and purchase, or i may wait to see how the maps look before purchasing.

edit: actually i think ill be waiting for the map packs to come out, just so i can split them with my brother... since i dont think they will be shareable through elite.
 
[quote name='DOMINATOR912']Also, I hate how easy quickscoping has become in MW3. At least in MW2 it took skill to do it. Last night I was in a game where the entire opposing team was quickscoping.[/QUOTE]I was never a fan of quickscoping, but I have yet to see someone put the technique to an effective use in MW3. In the same amount of time it takes to quickscope someone you could just as easily hipfire with steady aim and a UMP.

A quickscoper is as good as dead if they miss the first shot. If they live long enough to get a second shot off, it's more or less just panic blindfiring as it takes a good amount of time for them to zoom out after missing, find where their target has moved to while the 'scoper was busy zooming in/out, and zoom in again, and fire once more.
 
[quote name='crzyjoeguy']yeah im not sure what i personally want to do either. i mean the map selection on disc isnt very good, and i only 'like' a few maps... so if the map packs are just as poor (imo), ill be kinda pissed i spent another $50 on them... so im not sure what i will do about that, i may just say screw it and hope they deliver better maps and go ahead and purchase, or i may wait to see how the maps look before purchasing.

edit: actually i think ill be waiting for the map packs to come out, just so i can split them with my brother... since i dont think they will be shareable through elite.[/QUOTE]

I totally forgot about that, maybe I'll just do that then, it's just map packs that are received, right? Through elite that it.
 
[quote name='RobMinhas']I totally forgot about that, maybe I'll just do that then, it's just map packs that are received, right? Through elite that it.[/QUOTE]


thats the only worthwhile thing imo. i mean you can compete for prizes and stuff, but to me id rather just play for fun, dont really see me winning anything anyway :whistle2:#. and you get a "elite" title and you get a gun cammo "winter i believe?" im sure im missing something (things?), but the main things you get, are the map packs.
 
Has anyone tried to download Elite on 2 consoles yet? I did it with Gears 3 and shared the DLC with my brother. I read that there is a download associated with Elite so I was wondering if it'll work the same way. I don't think there is anyway to test it yet since there isn't any DLC to download.
 
There is not a download with Elite in the traditional sense. It's more along the lines of your XBox Love Gold membership. It has an expiration. It's not a download of any kind. It's not an unlock code. It's a service. And since you can't share your Gold time, I doubt there's a way to share Elite.
 
[quote name='RobMinhas']Okay guys, I gotta dilemma. I have perchance upon 5600 MS points for 56 dollars, and I think I want MW3 prestige, as i bought the regular version. Care to sway me? I'm gonna be playing it tonnes, thats for sure, but I just don't wanna through that money so willy nilly like that.[/QUOTE]

You should sit on it for now. The Elite service isn't even working yet. And I don't know about anyone else, but I tried just playing online a little bit ago and it was laggy as hell. Even the multiplayer menu itself was lagging out like crazy. Very disappointed with the poor launch.
 
[quote name='lacertile']You should sit on it for now. The Elite service isn't even working yet. And I don't know about anyone else, but I tried just playing online a little bit ago and it was laggy as hell. Even the multiplayer menu itself was lagging out like crazy. Very disappointed with the poor launch.[/QUOTE]

Elite finally began working for the first time when I tried to use it yesterday morning. At first glance the service as a whole doesn't seem very impressive even when it's working. It's disappointing that you can't edit your classes in Elite.

I also encountered the laggy multiplayer menu problem more than once after I had played some solo suvirvial games. Rebooting the system seemed resolve the problem.
 
[quote name='Thrinn']Elite finally began working for the first time when I tried to use it yesterday morning. At first glance the service as a whole doesn't seem very impressive even when it's working. It's disappointing that you can't edit your classes in Elite.

I also encountered the laggy multiplayer menu problem more than once after I had played some solo suvirvial games. Rebooting the system seemed resolve the problem.[/QUOTE]

I edited my classes on the elite website and pushed those changes to the game. In fact on the elite website you can look at all your friends custom classes.
 
[quote name='theredworm']I edited my classes on the elite website and pushed those changes to the game. In fact on the elite website you can look at all your friends custom classes.[/QUOTE]

never knew you could do that with Elite. I already have my class set with the PP90M and MP9.

Did anyone notice the Shotguns got rebuffed because i have been hearing that people have more success with the SPAS-12 now than before. anyone confirm.
 
[quote name='theredworm']I edited my classes on the elite website and pushed those changes to the game. In fact on the elite website you can look at all your friends custom classes.[/QUOTE]

Ah, ok. I'll have to check their website. Thanks.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']never knew you could do that with Elite. I already have my class set with the PP90M and MP9.

Did anyone notice the Shotguns got rebuffed because i have been hearing that people have more success with the SPAS-12 now than before. anyone confirm.[/QUOTE]

i had a guy last night with the aa12 running around hip firing people at medium range like a smg and wrecking

never seen that before
 
[quote name='kingtut313']i had a guy last night with the aa12 running around hip firing people at medium range like a smg and wrecking

never seen that before[/QUOTE]

I can assure you that's been there since launch. ;\
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']I can assure you that's been there since launch. ;\[/QUOTE]
hmm i never seen somebody use a shotgun outside of close range and even threaten to go more than .500.. and its not like he was carefully aiming he was just randomly running and gunning.. looked like something bold was going on but he was just getting hits
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']I can assure you that's been there since launch. ;\[/QUOTE]

i can assure you not. I ran steady aim with AA 12 with kick pro and i was getting hit markers all over the place. The SPAS-12 is god awful and nothing compared to its Modern Warfare 2 counter part. Apparently though, after the initial patch, they buffed the shotguns so i just wanted to see if anyone noticed a difference with using shotguns before and after the patch.

[quote name='kingtut313']i had a guy last night with the aa12 running around hip firing people at medium range like a smg and wrecking

never seen that before[/QUOTE]

if that player was running range proficiency and of course steady aim, i could believe that.
 
A week since the launch and I still can't access the Elite app... WTF are they doing over there. I hate the damn shotgun attachments for the assault rifles. I need to get 40 kills with it for each weapon and the thing fucking sucks. Even in hardcore sometimes it takes 2 shots to kill people and it's not fast enough so I always en up getting killed. It's going to be a pain in the ass to get that challenge every time.
 
[quote name='eliter1']A week since the launch and I still can't access the Elite app... WTF are they doing over there. I hate the damn shotgun attachments for the assault rifles. I need to get 40 kills with it for each weapon and the thing fucking sucks. Even in hardcore sometimes it takes 2 shots to kill people and it's not fast enough so I always en up getting killed. It's going to be a pain in the ass to get that challenge every time.[/QUOTE]

try range or damage and stick in steady aim. That's what i find to be the best for any type of shotgun.
 
Maybe I'm just more of a Battlefield fan, but every time I'm playing Modern Warfare 3 it seems more and more like I just paid $65 for a map pack. The weapon leveling system is nice, and maybe I just haven't played it enough, but I feel like I'm just playing the same thing.

I know that's a common complaint people are making, but I didn't really agree until I played it a bit.

Also, fuck quickscoping.
 
So...is the Elite webpage in german for anyone?

It's not like everything is in german...just the gun descriptions, group descriptions, etc.

Stuff like the words on the banners is in english.
 
I traded my copy in yesterday, game was okay, but just okay for me isn't good enough right now. Many other games deserve my time right now. Will probably rebuy further down the line when its much cheaper.
 
They really fucked up the netcode in this game. I do not understand why they changed it.

MW2's was so much better. I'm not even sure how it works in this game. There's been so many times when all twelve people in the game only had 3 bars. Not even the host has 4 bars? How is that even possible? My connection (30 down/1 up) was solid enough in the past couple of COD games where I would get 4 bars about 90% of the time. Now, I think I've had about ten games where I've had 4 bars in like thirty hours of gameplay. This is the first COD game where I actually feel like I can be seconds behind the person shooting at me. I get killed around corners more than Black Ops. I really hope they can patch it, and I hope they do it as soon as possible. It's really my only major complaint right now. I can live with shitty maps, I can live with shitty spawns, but the netcode is really bringing the game down right now.
 
[quote name='seanr1221']So I have double xp for the next 2 hours...why?

I didn't activate anything or eat junk food.[/QUOTE]

I ended up getting two hours of 2x XP for finalizing my account details on the Elite website.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']Did you select Double Experience as one of your Prestige Shop unlocks, Sean?[/QUOTE]

Nope, but what was said above might be the reason. I was hanging around CoD Elite this morning.
 
[quote name='Trakan']They really fucked up the netcode in this game. I do not understand why they changed it.

MW2's was so much better. I'm not even sure how it works in this game. There's been so many times when all twelve people in the game only had 3 bars. Not even the host has 4 bars? How is that even possible? My connection (30 down/1 up) was solid enough in the past couple of COD games where I would get 4 bars about 90% of the time. Now, I think I've had about ten games where I've had 4 bars in like thirty hours of gameplay. This is the first COD game where I actually feel like I can be seconds behind the person shooting at me. I get killed around corners more than Black Ops. I really hope they can patch it, and I hope they do it as soon as possible. It's really my only major complaint right now. I can live with shitty maps, I can live with shitty spawns, but the netcode is really bringing the game down right now.[/QUOTE]


Hate to beat a dead horse, but I've been saying this and then the responses I get are "you're bad" or "don't suck". There's something seriously fucked with this game.
 
Correct, there is something wrong going on with the online performance on IW's side it is not the users (us). I too still get laggy games and what not. Turned off the video recording (theater) feature, still lags. I play with randoms, lag. I play with friends, lag. I play every other game on xbl fine and even black ops I get 4 bars. I got my elite subscription free otherwise I would of ditched the game already.
 
About the only time the netcode as really been an issue is when I play with friends in other states. When joining random games by myself things seem to run fairly smoothly... perhaps it's just that the the game is able to set a match up with a host that's closer in that situation. So far I've been killed twice when I've rounded a corner for cover. I still watch the occasional kill cam where it doesn't even show me getting off a single shot when I had fired, but it's no where near as often as it's been in previous CODs.
 
[quote name='Trakan']They really fucked up the netcode in this game. I do not understand why they changed it.

MW2's was so much better. I'm not even sure how it works in this game. There's been so many times when all twelve people in the game only had 3 bars. Not even the host has 4 bars? How is that even possible? My connection (30 down/1 up) was solid enough in the past couple of COD games where I would get 4 bars about 90% of the time. Now, I think I've had about ten games where I've had 4 bars in like thirty hours of gameplay. This is the first COD game where I actually feel like I can be seconds behind the person shooting at me. I get killed around corners more than Black Ops. I really hope they can patch it, and I hope they do it as soon as possible. It's really my only major complaint right now. I can live with shitty maps, I can live with shitty spawns, but the netcode is really bringing the game down right now.[/QUOTE]

There is nothing more annoying than getting killed when you go around a corner and you feel like you're safe. Playing regular playlists is frustrating because the kill came always shows me not hitting the person that killed me even though my screen said I was hitting them. I remember having this problem with WaW and they didn't fix it quick enough and I quit, hope they do something to remedy this.
 
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