Can Wii function as your only system for a hardcore gamer?
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[quote name='zewone']Fun does not equal deep.
So congratulations on not knowing the meaning of words.[/QUOTE]
So you've gone from saying "the game isn't deep" to "the game is fun" to "those aren't the same thing."
Make up your mid, especially if you're going to say useless bullshit about something you obvoiusly have no clue about.
So congratulations on not knowing the meaning of words.[/QUOTE]
So you've gone from saying "the game isn't deep" to "the game is fun" to "those aren't the same thing."
Make up your mid, especially if you're going to say useless bullshit about something you obvoiusly have no clue about.
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[quote name='zewone']Fun does not equal deep.
So congratulations on not knowing the meaning of words.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations on keeping me entertained.
So congratulations on not knowing the meaning of words.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations on keeping me entertained.
[quote name='Strell']So you've gone from saying "the game isn't deep" to "the game is fun" to "those aren't the same thing."
Make up your mid, especially if you're going to say useless bullshit about something you obvoiusly have no clue about.[/QUOTE]
What the
are you talking about? Go re-read what I wrote. My first post, I said that the game is fun, but isn't deep. I never once flip-flopped on that.
Obviously, you're the one that has no clue.
Make up your mid, especially if you're going to say useless bullshit about something you obvoiusly have no clue about.[/QUOTE]
What the
are you talking about? Go re-read what I wrote. My first post, I said that the game is fun, but isn't deep. I never once flip-flopped on that.Obviously, you're the one that has no clue.
[quote name='zewone']What the are you talking about? Go re-read what I wrote. My first post, I said that the game is fun, but isn't deep. I never once flip-flopped on that.
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Yes you are. You said it wasn't deep, I said it was, then you respond with "that doesn't answer the question." So I answered your other useless question, you responded with "I called it fun." So you can't make up your mind, and instead are just running around in circles pretending to be relevant.
I imagine this sort of thing appears to be quite cunning to you, what with the ability to say words and pretend you really meant to say other things, and then saying as such.
The gameplay is deep. Play it with people other than the ones that say "Gosh I luvs Mario I guess I'll play with him." But that would be asking you to get aing clue, which is beyond your ability.
are you talking about? Go re-read what I wrote. My first post, I said that the game is fun, but isn't deep. I never once flip-flopped on that.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are. You said it wasn't deep, I said it was, then you respond with "that doesn't answer the question." So I answered your other useless question, you responded with "I called it fun." So you can't make up your mind, and instead are just running around in circles pretending to be relevant.
I imagine this sort of thing appears to be quite cunning to you, what with the ability to say words and pretend you really meant to say other things, and then saying as such.
The gameplay is deep. Play it with people other than the ones that say "Gosh I luvs Mario I guess I'll play with him." But that would be asking you to get a
ing clue, which is beyond your ability.
No. There isn't enough depth in the games right now to satisfy a hardcore gamer alone. Zelda is the exception.
I personally have both systems, but play them in completely different situations.
The Wii is more of a fun, party, albeit shallow system. Metal slug anthology is an exception. I've gotten to the point where playing Wii sports by myself gives me little to no satisfaction whatesoever.
The 360 is more of playing by yourself, with your "internet friends" on live, or splitscreen co-op. Small Arms is an exception. I am still learning new things about GoW everyday and am continuely rewarded for my time invested with no end in site.
Both have the potential to reach the same amount of "fun-levels(?)," but in unique ways.
This brings up an interesting point though. How could a hardcore gamer be hardcore if he only owned a wii and no other last-gen systems?
A "Rich" gamer, not hardcore, would own all three.
I personally have both systems, but play them in completely different situations.
The Wii is more of a fun, party, albeit shallow system. Metal slug anthology is an exception. I've gotten to the point where playing Wii sports by myself gives me little to no satisfaction whatesoever.
The 360 is more of playing by yourself, with your "internet friends" on live, or splitscreen co-op. Small Arms is an exception. I am still learning new things about GoW everyday and am continuely rewarded for my time invested with no end in site.
Both have the potential to reach the same amount of "fun-levels(?)," but in unique ways.
This brings up an interesting point though. How could a hardcore gamer be hardcore if he only owned a wii and no other last-gen systems?
A "Rich" gamer, not hardcore, would own all three.
[quote name='Strell']Gosh, and let me miss out on every last train wreck of a post you could potentially make in this thread? How dreadful.[/QUOTE]
Do you have a brain tumor or something? I feel sorry for you.
Now back on topic. Why don't we agree on a set definition of hardcore such as "ability to play all genres of games". Following this definition a wii is not enough.
Do you have a brain tumor or something? I feel sorry for you.
Now back on topic. Why don't we agree on a set definition of hardcore such as "ability to play all genres of games". Following this definition a wii is not enough.
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[quote name='BULL_Ship']Do you have a brain tumor or something? I feel sorry for you.
Now back on topic. Why don't we agree on a set definition of hardcore such as "ability to play all genres of games". Following this definition a wii is not enough.[/QUOTE]
Another definition of hardcore could be somebody who plays the best possible version of all games. In this case too, a Wii is not enough.
Now back on topic. Why don't we agree on a set definition of hardcore such as "ability to play all genres of games". Following this definition a wii is not enough.[/QUOTE]
Another definition of hardcore could be somebody who plays the best possible version of all games. In this case too, a Wii is not enough.
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Nope. My Wii is the Kobe to my Shaq (360)
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[quote name='rickonker']This makes the PS3 Dennis Rodman.[/QUOTE]
Well, I suppose if we're going to incorporate the PS3 into the picture, I'd like to use this late 90's Chicago Bulls team analogy.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.
The Wii is more like Scottie Pippen. Yes, he's an awesome player, and probably would have been a super-star if he played somewhere else. But, the thing is that without Jordan, Pippen would've been like a Kevin Garnett. Amazing player, but with no Jordan, he would've never ever reached any NBA final. Jordan on the other hand, would've been the greatest basketball player even with or without Pippen.
Then you have Rodman. One of the greatest rebounders of all-time, but also insane. He did a lot of things to get media attention, and was always extremely entertaining. It didn't matter whether you were laughing at him or laughing with him, the point was that people were focused on him. Though the Bulls needed a Rodman to be apart of the championship formula, he gave up a lot of opportunities to score himself, and instead passed the ball to say Jordan or Pippen (see where I'm going with this?) Sure, at the time you may have laughed at him, hated him, or loved him, but there's no denying, you're going to remember him one way or another.
I wonder if anyone is going to understand what the I just wrote. If anyone does understand, I tried my best to represent Rodman/PS3, and also feel free to offer suggestions to my otherwise entertaining (at least I think so) analogy. I also tried my best to not be bias...I probably came off bias but man, you try making a analogy with an NBA team.
Well, I suppose if we're going to incorporate the PS3 into the picture, I'd like to use this late 90's Chicago Bulls team analogy.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.
The Wii is more like Scottie Pippen. Yes, he's an awesome player, and probably would have been a super-star if he played somewhere else. But, the thing is that without Jordan, Pippen would've been like a Kevin Garnett. Amazing player, but with no Jordan, he would've never ever reached any NBA final. Jordan on the other hand, would've been the greatest basketball player even with or without Pippen.
Then you have Rodman. One of the greatest rebounders of all-time, but also insane. He did a lot of things to get media attention, and was always extremely entertaining. It didn't matter whether you were laughing at him or laughing with him, the point was that people were focused on him. Though the Bulls needed a Rodman to be apart of the championship formula, he gave up a lot of opportunities to score himself, and instead passed the ball to say Jordan or Pippen (see where I'm going with this?) Sure, at the time you may have laughed at him, hated him, or loved him, but there's no denying, you're going to remember him one way or another.
I wonder if anyone is going to understand what the
I just wrote. If anyone does understand, I tried my best to represent Rodman/PS3, and also feel free to offer suggestions to my otherwise entertaining (at least I think so) analogy. I also tried my best to not be bias...I probably came off bias but man, you try making a analogy with an NBA team.
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Well, I suppose if we're going to incorporate the PS3 into the picture, I'd like to use this late 90's Chicago Bulls team analogy.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.[/QUOTE]
I like this analogy a lot because you can extend it a bit more. What about the product placement of Jordan? Jordan shoes, colonge, Chaos in Windy City, and Space Jame all reak of the downloadable rape that gets perpitrated on 360 owners every day. Buy shit that's either not worth it or totally overpriced!
And you're insane if you think three games, Viva, Oblivion, and Gears, amounts to delivering on the hype.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.[/QUOTE]
I like this analogy a lot because you can extend it a bit more. What about the product placement of Jordan? Jordan shoes, colonge, Chaos in Windy City, and Space Jame all reak of the downloadable rape that gets perpitrated on 360 owners every day. Buy shit that's either not worth it or totally overpriced!
And you're insane if you think three games, Viva, Oblivion, and Gears, amounts to delivering on the hype.
[quote name='furyk']I like this analogy a lot because you can extend it a bit more. What about the product placement of Jordan? Jordan shoes, colonge, Chaos in Windy City, and Space Jame all reak of the downloadable rape that gets perpitrated on 360 owners every day. Buy shit that's either not worth it or totally overpriced!
And you're insane if you think three games, Viva, Oblivion, and Gears, amounts to delivering on the hype.[/quote]
Can anyone seriously say that the 360 (you can include the PS3 also) had a better launch game than Zelda? I would even put in Rayman and WII Sports in this category. Try not to be shallow and say "it's only a bunch of minigames", because if you actually play the games you will see how much fun they are. And isn't that the point? Comparing a 360 game that is launched however long it has been (1 yr?) since the 360 came out really isn't that fair (but I do agree on not really delivering the hype).
Can anyone name a game on the 360 at launch time (or reasonably close) that could top either of those 3 games (rayman, zelda, wii sports)? I really enjoyed Call of Duty 2 but wouldn't take it over the 3 I listed for the Wii.
What i am getting from a lot of these posts is that to be a "hardcore" gamer you are supposed to be all about graphics.
And you're insane if you think three games, Viva, Oblivion, and Gears, amounts to delivering on the hype.[/quote]
Can anyone seriously say that the 360 (you can include the PS3 also) had a better launch game than Zelda? I would even put in Rayman and WII Sports in this category. Try not to be shallow and say "it's only a bunch of minigames", because if you actually play the games you will see how much fun they are. And isn't that the point? Comparing a 360 game that is launched however long it has been (1 yr?) since the 360 came out really isn't that fair (but I do agree on not really delivering the hype).
Can anyone name a game on the 360 at launch time (or reasonably close) that could top either of those 3 games (rayman, zelda, wii sports)? I really enjoyed Call of Duty 2 but wouldn't take it over the 3 I listed for the Wii.
What i am getting from a lot of these posts is that to be a "hardcore" gamer you are supposed to be all about graphics.
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Once again it seems as if we’re identifying “hardcore gamers” merely by their purchasing power. The question is, are we using this buzz word to describe gamers who take a certain pride in their hobby and who get immeasurable returns simply from the act of gaming, or are we talking about someone who merely buys games and systems to achieve the hallowed status of hardcore? Is hardcore a lifestyle or a marketing gimmick?
Personally, I don’t think we can paint all gamers (hardcore or otherwise) with the same brush. So yes, for some hardcore gamers a Wii would be more than enough. Shit, for some I'm certain a 2600 could be more than enough. I think gaming is a lot more about what you get out of it than what you put into it.
Furthermore, the whole “hardcore” thing is a bit played out. Let’s just be gamers and be done with it.
Personally, I don’t think we can paint all gamers (hardcore or otherwise) with the same brush. So yes, for some hardcore gamers a Wii would be more than enough. Shit, for some I'm certain a 2600 could be more than enough. I think gaming is a lot more about what you get out of it than what you put into it.
Furthermore, the whole “hardcore” thing is a bit played out. Let’s just be gamers and be done with it.
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Okay, IMO hardcore basically just means you really like games. You spend a lot of time and money on them. Doesn't mean you have to be any good at them, or have to like every genre or stuff like that. You probably know a lot about them and their history, because it's what you do.
Like you're into gardening and do that a lot and know about plants-it's like that, but with games. It's just a big hobby for you in other words.
I guess what it really comes down to with the Wii is how the software support will go. It's not impossible it will become the primary system for RPGs, or just get such a big installed base that complex games that would have been made for PS3/360 end up developed for Wii instead. (Though there's still issues there in terms of the Wii hardware not being able to handle as much.)
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And honestly I don't know what the deal is with the hardware problems. I realize that there will be some defective units, but how can you have three in a row? (assuming they were each replaced and not each just repaired). I've had my day one 360, and I've put it through it's paces. It's probably on 4+ hours a day and 12+ on the weekend. Still I've had no problems with it. I also still have my day one PS1 and day one PS2 and have never had a problem. My PS3 is only 2 days old, so I can't comment on that one yet. The only system that had a problem for me was the GameCube. [/quote]
I'm pretty sure of my friends everyone who got a 360 at launch has had it die by now. Those that got them mid 2006ish have been okay. My last one came from April/May, and it's been okay.
With the Playstation 3, I'm still not even 100% sure if it was a hardware problem, or some kind of software glitch that I could have worked around by picking the right menu settings or switching inputs back and fourth or something. But for $500 I didn't want to take any chances!
[quote name='schuerm26']Can anyone seriously say that the 360 (you can include the PS3 also) had a better launch game than Zelda?[/quote]
No, definetly not. It's one of the best launch games ever-maybe the best. But it doesn't completely count IMO since it's really a Gamecube game that's been in development for at least 3 or so years. Take it away and I can't say the Wii has had a particularly better launch than the other systems (not that I've had a chance to play many of the games from any of the launches). I think all three systems have had pretty solid launches (aside from Zelda). My biggest single disappointment with the 360 launch was Kameo, since I expected to love it, but really hated it.
Those games just can't do anything for me. Maybe if I frequently played stuff with friends, but single player stuff like that just can't get a blip on my radar so to speak.
I can't remember all the 360 launch titles, but I'd gladly take Perfect Dark Zero, Ridge Racer 6, Gun, Condemned, or Call of Duty 2 over Wii Sports or Raving Rabids.
[quote name='Metal Boss']no plans on bumping up to HD, I can get graphics and gameplay comparable to 360 with my pc, almost any game I want to play for the 360 is a pc port. And on the pc, shooters just control better, that's a fact.. No reason why the WII can't be a main console for someone like me.[/QUOTE]
That's a good point. For much of this last generation I really used the PC and GBA as my main systems, supplemented by the Gamecube. The PC has certain types of big, deep games that the PS2 and Gamecube can't do (though the X-Box could for the first time), while the GBA had great 2D games that weren't getting done on other platforms, and the Gamecube had of course Metroid and Zelda.
From the N64 and Gamecube though I know from experience Nintendo alone doesn't release enough games of the type I want to satisfy me. If they could crank out a Zelda, Metroid-calibur game every two or three months it would be great, but a lot of Nintendo stuff feels like filler to me and I have no interest in it. (I wouldn't want literally Zelda and Metroid all the time, but I mean hopefully original IP with that depth of gameplay)
Like you're into gardening and do that a lot and know about plants-it's like that, but with games. It's just a big hobby for you in other words.
I guess what it really comes down to with the Wii is how the software support will go. It's not impossible it will become the primary system for RPGs, or just get such a big installed base that complex games that would have been made for PS3/360 end up developed for Wii instead. (Though there's still issues there in terms of the Wii hardware not being able to handle as much.)
[quote name='Nutts']
And honestly I don't know what the deal is with the hardware problems. I realize that there will be some defective units, but how can you have three in a row? (assuming they were each replaced and not each just repaired). I've had my day one 360, and I've put it through it's paces. It's probably on 4+ hours a day and 12+ on the weekend. Still I've had no problems with it. I also still have my day one PS1 and day one PS2 and have never had a problem. My PS3 is only 2 days old, so I can't comment on that one yet. The only system that had a problem for me was the GameCube. [/quote]
I'm pretty sure of my friends everyone who got a 360 at launch has had it die by now. Those that got them mid 2006ish have been okay. My last one came from April/May, and it's been okay.
With the Playstation 3, I'm still not even 100% sure if it was a hardware problem, or some kind of software glitch that I could have worked around by picking the right menu settings or switching inputs back and fourth or something. But for $500 I didn't want to take any chances!
[quote name='schuerm26']Can anyone seriously say that the 360 (you can include the PS3 also) had a better launch game than Zelda?[/quote]
No, definetly not. It's one of the best launch games ever-maybe the best. But it doesn't completely count IMO since it's really a Gamecube game that's been in development for at least 3 or so years. Take it away and I can't say the Wii has had a particularly better launch than the other systems (not that I've had a chance to play many of the games from any of the launches). I think all three systems have had pretty solid launches (aside from Zelda). My biggest single disappointment with the 360 launch was Kameo, since I expected to love it, but really hated it.
Those games just can't do anything for me. Maybe if I frequently played stuff with friends, but single player stuff like that just can't get a blip on my radar so to speak.
I can't remember all the 360 launch titles, but I'd gladly take Perfect Dark Zero, Ridge Racer 6, Gun, Condemned, or Call of Duty 2 over Wii Sports or Raving Rabids.
[quote name='Metal Boss']no plans on bumping up to HD, I can get graphics and gameplay comparable to 360 with my pc, almost any game I want to play for the 360 is a pc port. And on the pc, shooters just control better, that's a fact.. No reason why the WII can't be a main console for someone like me.[/QUOTE]
That's a good point. For much of this last generation I really used the PC and GBA as my main systems, supplemented by the Gamecube. The PC has certain types of big, deep games that the PS2 and Gamecube can't do (though the X-Box could for the first time), while the GBA had great 2D games that weren't getting done on other platforms, and the Gamecube had of course Metroid and Zelda.
From the N64 and Gamecube though I know from experience Nintendo alone doesn't release enough games of the type I want to satisfy me. If they could crank out a Zelda, Metroid-calibur game every two or three months it would be great, but a lot of Nintendo stuff feels like filler to me and I have no interest in it. (I wouldn't want literally Zelda and Metroid all the time, but I mean hopefully original IP with that depth of gameplay)
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[quote name='BULL_Ship']Why don't we agree on a set definition of hardcore such as "ability to play all genres of games". Following this definition a wii is not enough.[/QUOTE]
Except I still feel that someone can be a "hardcore" gamer and not like or want to play every genre. If you play games a lot, read magazines, follow webistes and message boards, know who the people in the industry are - but don't like to play FPSs, RPGs or anything with stealth, you could still be considered "hardcore" IMO.
Except I still feel that someone can be a "hardcore" gamer and not like or want to play every genre. If you play games a lot, read magazines, follow webistes and message boards, know who the people in the industry are - but don't like to play FPSs, RPGs or anything with stealth, you could still be considered "hardcore" IMO.
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[quote name='A Happy Panda']Well, I suppose if we're going to incorporate the PS3 into the picture, I'd like to use this late 90's Chicago Bulls team analogy.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.
The Wii is more like Scottie Pippen. Yes, he's an awesome player, and probably would have been a super-star if he played somewhere else. But, the thing is that without Jordan, Pippen would've been like a Kevin Garnett. Amazing player, but with no Jordan, he would've never ever reached any NBA final. Jordan on the other hand, would've been the greatest basketball player even with or without Pippen.
Then you have Rodman. One of the greatest rebounders of all-time, but also insane. He did a lot of things to get media attention, and was always extremely entertaining. It didn't matter whether you were laughing at him or laughing with him, the point was that people were focused on him. Though the Bulls needed a Rodman to be apart of the championship formula, he gave up a lot of opportunities to score himself, and instead passed the ball to say Jordan or Pippen (see where I'm going with this?) Sure, at the time you may have laughed at him, hated him, or loved him, but there's no denying, you're going to remember him one way or another.
I wonder if anyone is going to understand what the I just wrote. If anyone does understand, I tried my best to represent Rodman/PS3, and also feel free to offer suggestions to my otherwise entertaining (at least I think so) analogy. I also tried my best to not be bias...I probably came off bias but man, you try making a analogy with an NBA team.[/QUOTE]
This is a good analogy. When I posted Dennis Rodman I was going off of your Kobe and Shaq analogy though, meaning the PS3 is like Rodman when he came to the Lakers. Nobody knew WTF the point was.
The 360 is like Jordan. Coming out of NC, he is hype central. And within a short amount of time, he delivers on that hype. In later years, he's what you paid to see. You expect the spectacular dunks, circus shots, and just plain entertainment, and he usually delivers.
The Wii is more like Scottie Pippen. Yes, he's an awesome player, and probably would have been a super-star if he played somewhere else. But, the thing is that without Jordan, Pippen would've been like a Kevin Garnett. Amazing player, but with no Jordan, he would've never ever reached any NBA final. Jordan on the other hand, would've been the greatest basketball player even with or without Pippen.
Then you have Rodman. One of the greatest rebounders of all-time, but also insane. He did a lot of things to get media attention, and was always extremely entertaining. It didn't matter whether you were laughing at him or laughing with him, the point was that people were focused on him. Though the Bulls needed a Rodman to be apart of the championship formula, he gave up a lot of opportunities to score himself, and instead passed the ball to say Jordan or Pippen (see where I'm going with this?) Sure, at the time you may have laughed at him, hated him, or loved him, but there's no denying, you're going to remember him one way or another.
I wonder if anyone is going to understand what the
I just wrote. If anyone does understand, I tried my best to represent Rodman/PS3, and also feel free to offer suggestions to my otherwise entertaining (at least I think so) analogy. I also tried my best to not be bias...I probably came off bias but man, you try making a analogy with an NBA team.[/QUOTE]This is a good analogy. When I posted Dennis Rodman I was going off of your Kobe and Shaq analogy though, meaning the PS3 is like Rodman when he came to the Lakers. Nobody knew WTF the point was.
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[quote name='rickonker']This is a good analogy. When I posted Dennis Rodman I was going off of your Kobe and Shaq analogy though, meaning the PS3 is like Rodman when he came to the Lakers. Nobody knew WTF the point was.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow. I completely forgot he played for the Lakers and Mavericks after the Bulls...
Oh wow. I completely forgot he played for the Lakers and Mavericks after the Bulls...
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I don't think the Wii can hold up as a person's only system period. Although my co-worker who is a casual gamer at best has it as his only console.
As for "hardcore" gamers, I don't think the games right now (and the majority down the line) are deep enough to warrant the replayability. Smash Bros. will probably be that killer app for hardcore gamers, but again that is still a ways away.
As for "hardcore" gamers, I don't think the games right now (and the majority down the line) are deep enough to warrant the replayability. Smash Bros. will probably be that killer app for hardcore gamers, but again that is still a ways away.
[quote name='The Crotch']What in the name of all things sexual are you babbling about? Grappling=Blocking=Shooting? Strell was wrong(!): you do have logic. You just keep it chained in your basement, starving, bloody, and afraid to move lest it be beaten for its insolence. I'm sorry to extend this... conversation, but I really have to know what it is that you're talking about. Perhaps you're actually typing something very sensible, but evil anti-logic demons have infested my monitor, turning your reasonable post into some sort of Regalsinesque nightmare-creature. Perhaps one day this creature will escape from my monitor and wreak havoc across the land, explaining to people how drawing a gun is the equivalent of two sweaty men-in-tights hugging. If I am lucky, it will have feasted on my brains long before it has a chance to unleash such a terrible plague on our unsuspecting planet.
Back to the topic at hand. In conjunction with a lot of deliberation on my part, this thread has convinced me to hold off on the Wii for some time (at least until the first price break or whenever Brawl comes out). By that point, there should be enough games already made and in the pipeline to satisfy my long-term needs.
Yes, even those needs.
Ahem.[/QUOTE]
All that I meant is that in Saturday Night Slam Masters you have your basic attack button, your jump button, and your grapple button. If Saturday Night Slam Masters was about cowboys and not wrestlers, you would have your basic attack button, your jump button, and your shooting button. All I'm saying it's a similar button set up, basic buttons found in most games [jump, attack, etc] and a game exclusive button [shield in Smash Brothers, grapple in Slam Masters, etc]
That's what I am saying, the tag team battle and battle royale are like a very 16 bit Smash Brothers. Saturday Night Slam was never considered a deep fighter, there weren't tournaments like there were for Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo or Mortal Kombat 3.
I realize that a competitive Smash player would wipe the floor with a novice or casual player: it's not a button masher where the end result is based on luck, there is a degree of skill involved in the game. However, it's not the kind of skill that could be applied to other fighters: you couldn't pass Smash Brothers skills over into Virtua Fighter, and you definitely couldn't put them in the middle of a King of Fighters tournament. It's a completely different type of game, but besides Soul Calibur 2, the closest the Gamecube has to an actual fighting game. And it will be the closest thing the Wii has, besides Dragon Ball games.
It's not like Pump It Up VS DDR VS ITG...a competitive PIU player can laugh at most DDR songs..a competitive ITG player can laugh at both PIU and DDR...and a competitive DDR player is typically overwhelemed by PIU and finds ITG to not be as fluid or well made.
Back to the topic at hand. In conjunction with a lot of deliberation on my part, this thread has convinced me to hold off on the Wii for some time (at least until the first price break or whenever Brawl comes out). By that point, there should be enough games already made and in the pipeline to satisfy my long-term needs.
Yes, even those needs.
Ahem.[/QUOTE]
All that I meant is that in Saturday Night Slam Masters you have your basic attack button, your jump button, and your grapple button. If Saturday Night Slam Masters was about cowboys and not wrestlers, you would have your basic attack button, your jump button, and your shooting button. All I'm saying it's a similar button set up, basic buttons found in most games [jump, attack, etc] and a game exclusive button [shield in Smash Brothers, grapple in Slam Masters, etc]
That's what I am saying, the tag team battle and battle royale are like a very 16 bit Smash Brothers. Saturday Night Slam was never considered a deep fighter, there weren't tournaments like there were for Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo or Mortal Kombat 3.
I realize that a competitive Smash player would wipe the floor with a novice or casual player: it's not a button masher where the end result is based on luck, there is a degree of skill involved in the game. However, it's not the kind of skill that could be applied to other fighters: you couldn't pass Smash Brothers skills over into Virtua Fighter, and you definitely couldn't put them in the middle of a King of Fighters tournament. It's a completely different type of game, but besides Soul Calibur 2, the closest the Gamecube has to an actual fighting game. And it will be the closest thing the Wii has, besides Dragon Ball games.
It's not like Pump It Up VS DDR VS ITG...a competitive PIU player can laugh at most DDR songs..a competitive ITG player can laugh at both PIU and DDR...and a competitive DDR player is typically overwhelemed by PIU and finds ITG to not be as fluid or well made.
Um Saragusi....
MK: high punch, low punch, high kick, low kick, block, three-four special moves, fatalities
SF: weak, medium, heavy punch/kick, three-four special moves
KOF: heavy/weak punch/kick, three-four special moves
Super Smash Brothers: attack, smash, three special moves, stage gimmicks
News flash: 2D fighters aren't that complex. Down B isn't as complex as quarter circle forward B, but it's not that much of a jump. The only difference is that Smash Brothers tournaments are done at Comic/Anime/Gaming Cons and not arcades. You really should just stop arguing this as all you're doing is digging a bigger and bigger hole.
MK: high punch, low punch, high kick, low kick, block, three-four special moves, fatalities
SF: weak, medium, heavy punch/kick, three-four special moves
KOF: heavy/weak punch/kick, three-four special moves
Super Smash Brothers: attack, smash, three special moves, stage gimmicks
News flash: 2D fighters aren't that complex. Down B isn't as complex as quarter circle forward B, but it's not that much of a jump. The only difference is that Smash Brothers tournaments are done at Comic/Anime/Gaming Cons and not arcades. You really should just stop arguing this as all you're doing is digging a bigger and bigger hole.
[quote name='sarausagi'] However, it's not the kind of skill that could be applied to other fighters: you couldn't pass Smash Brothers skills over into Virtua Fighter, and you definitely couldn't put them in the middle of a King of Fighters tournament. It's a completely different type of game, but besides Soul Calibur 2, the closest the Gamecube has to an actual fighting game. And it will be the closest thing the Wii has, besides Dragon Ball games.
[/QUOTE]
Again with your hideous logic.
The types of skills in Smash Bros can't carry over into another fighting game? Really? So that instantly makes it a totally un-whole experience, yes?
Look, I can deal with the fact that you might not like Smash Bros, but I can't accept someone passing it off as something that requires no skill. The guys running tourneys are doing just as much button acrobatics as any other player in any other fighting game. You should seek one of them out and ask them exactly what they are doing in the midst of an intense fight. I imagine between wavedashing, dashdancing, directional influence, ledge guarding, wavelanding, wavelanding and wavedashing into combos and ledge guarding, combo throws, air juggles, neutral air attacks, reverse nuetral air attacks, L-canceling, perfect shielding, short jumping, special cancelling, shield cancelling, and item catches, I would think all of those things would require an insane amount of skill to pull off. For the most part, everything I listed is considered "higher level" skills beyond the usual shielding/dodging/special and smash attacks, which are all Nintendo would have you believe is required to be a pro at the game.
Just doing an infinite combo requires short jumping + L canceling, which requires at minimum lighting reflexes to pull off just the opener, then insane juggling on the buttons just to pull it off effectively. And that's not including what you'd have to do to actually pull that off in the middle of a bout, which would require at the least adequate dash and cancelling skills.
Basically all you've said something to applies to pretty much every fighting game in the world, and you're holding it against Smash Bros as if it has absolutely no merit in terms of being an intense game. The skills one would use in GGX don't necessarily apply to DOA or VF or any of the Street Fighter games. And yes, Smash Bros techs don't apply there either, but none of them apply back onto Smash Bros.
Now I'm not very versed in fighters, so while I cannot fully say Smash Bros is equal in terms of skill, I damn well know it requires a huge assortment of skills and memorization if you want to play it at a competitive level, and I damn well know that if you were to watch someone of skill play, you couldn't follow what they were doing unless you'd had a LOT of practice.
As for your other comments, there's no way to speculate upon them until we find out what happens in the future. But you can continue to pass off your logic as fact because that must be quite comforting.
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Again with your hideous logic.
The types of skills in Smash Bros can't carry over into another fighting game? Really? So that instantly makes it a totally un-whole experience, yes?
Look, I can deal with the fact that you might not like Smash Bros, but I can't accept someone passing it off as something that requires no skill. The guys running tourneys are doing just as much button acrobatics as any other player in any other fighting game. You should seek one of them out and ask them exactly what they are doing in the midst of an intense fight. I imagine between wavedashing, dashdancing, directional influence, ledge guarding, wavelanding, wavelanding and wavedashing into combos and ledge guarding, combo throws, air juggles, neutral air attacks, reverse nuetral air attacks, L-canceling, perfect shielding, short jumping, special cancelling, shield cancelling, and item catches, I would think all of those things would require an insane amount of skill to pull off. For the most part, everything I listed is considered "higher level" skills beyond the usual shielding/dodging/special and smash attacks, which are all Nintendo would have you believe is required to be a pro at the game.
Just doing an infinite combo requires short jumping + L canceling, which requires at minimum lighting reflexes to pull off just the opener, then insane juggling on the buttons just to pull it off effectively. And that's not including what you'd have to do to actually pull that off in the middle of a bout, which would require at the least adequate dash and cancelling skills.
Basically all you've said something to applies to pretty much every fighting game in the world, and you're holding it against Smash Bros as if it has absolutely no merit in terms of being an intense game. The skills one would use in GGX don't necessarily apply to DOA or VF or any of the Street Fighter games. And yes, Smash Bros techs don't apply there either, but none of them apply back onto Smash Bros.
Now I'm not very versed in fighters, so while I cannot fully say Smash Bros is equal in terms of skill, I damn well know it requires a huge assortment of skills and memorization if you want to play it at a competitive level, and I damn well know that if you were to watch someone of skill play, you couldn't follow what they were doing unless you'd had a LOT of practice.
As for your other comments, there's no way to speculate upon them until we find out what happens in the future. But you can continue to pass off your logic as fact because that must be quite comforting.
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...meh... I just use the leg sweep in fighting games. Over and over and over. I win a solid 40% of the time.
Anyway, I consider myself a pretty serious gamer. Been at it long enough to know what is bullshit and what is not, and most importantly what will make me happy. It ain't the stuff most people seem to think of when they think of hardcore gaming (FPS, fighters, football games and anything else that shows up in tourneys).
I've found that on the whole, I prefer Nintendo's brand of fun over that of other companies. I've enjoyed a fair amount of PS2 games and a lot of 3rd party titles for the 'Cube, GBA, and DS, but with limited exceptions, I can pick up a Nintendo game and really feel satisfied.
Fanboy? Sure. Whatever. I like what I like (and don't spend time trolling the boards for other consoles), and the Wii will probably last me until there are enough games on the other consoles to justify the purchase and the prices drop significantly.
Anyway, I consider myself a pretty serious gamer. Been at it long enough to know what is bullshit and what is not, and most importantly what will make me happy. It ain't the stuff most people seem to think of when they think of hardcore gaming (FPS, fighters, football games and anything else that shows up in tourneys).
I've found that on the whole, I prefer Nintendo's brand of fun over that of other companies. I've enjoyed a fair amount of PS2 games and a lot of 3rd party titles for the 'Cube, GBA, and DS, but with limited exceptions, I can pick up a Nintendo game and really feel satisfied.
Fanboy? Sure. Whatever. I like what I like (and don't spend time trolling the boards for other consoles), and the Wii will probably last me until there are enough games on the other consoles to justify the purchase and the prices drop significantly.
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wow you "gamers" and your definitions for "hardcore gamers" really amuse me. Shouldnt you be arguing with people at gamefaqs. The term Hardcore gamer means different things to different people and to think a Wii could not be used for hardcore gaming, makes you a non-hardcore gamer in my book. It is all person specific.
Every idiot here has their own definition mostly involving the best graphics or some stupid shit like that. It really is pathetic. We are all just gamers, and hardcore is just the term made up by people to say they are better than other people who play games.
Every idiot here has their own definition mostly involving the best graphics or some stupid shit like that. It really is pathetic. We are all just gamers, and hardcore is just the term made up by people to say they are better than other people who play games.
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Wii as a standalone console? I'll pass, this thing is gonna be great at parties and with my girlfriend, but I need my 360 (and maybe PS3 down the road).
[quote name='Strell']If you're Trakan, you're a mod with an overinflated ego and sense of importance.
Which I guess is at least something.[/quote]
I'm fine with that. Doesn't change the fact that if someone disagrees with you that you feel the need to post a 10 page essay trying to prove them wrong and yourself right. Or get in page long arguments over mundane shit. 9 times out of 10 it's someone you consider a 'troll' so it shouldn't be worth your time anyways. zew says a couple sentences and you turn it into some multiple page arguments. You post in 90% of all the Wii threads. I can't find one thread in the Wii forum without you acting like somebody killed your biological father or you capitalizing and italicizing shit thinking it's hilarious. And when someone else does it, they're either a troll or retarded.
I like the 360, Gears of War, and Halo. When somebody disagrees with me about them, I don't act like they killed my biological father. I don't even care. This is thein' internet. A bunch of peole on an internet forum disagree with you. Oh noes.
Get off your high horse and get ain' life.
Which I guess is at least something.[/quote]
I'm fine with that. Doesn't change the fact that if someone disagrees with you that you feel the need to post a 10 page essay trying to prove them wrong and yourself right. Or get in page long arguments over mundane shit. 9 times out of 10 it's someone you consider a 'troll' so it shouldn't be worth your time anyways. zew says a couple sentences and you turn it into some multiple page arguments. You post in 90% of all the Wii threads. I can't find one thread in the Wii forum without you acting like somebody killed your biological father or you capitalizing and italicizing shit thinking it's hilarious. And when someone else does it, they're either a troll or retarded.
I like the 360, Gears of War, and Halo. When somebody disagrees with me about them, I don't act like they killed my biological father. I don't even care. This is the
in' internet. A bunch of peole on an internet forum disagree with you. Oh noes. Get off your high horse and get a
in' life.[quote name='Trakan']
Get off your high horse and get ain' life.[/QUOTE]
Boohoo, joining in on a discussion just to deliver a short sighted insult. That's pathetic - trying to warm yourself up with the sense that you might finally find that place you belong to. I mean, why else would you be in here, Trakan? Especially when you clearly have nothing exciting to say, other than some pathetic attempt to sound so badass?
Just another trickle on your stupid vendetta. Yawn.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.
Get off your high horse and get a
in' life.[/QUOTE]Boohoo, joining in on a discussion just to deliver a short sighted insult. That's pathetic - trying to warm yourself up with the sense that you might finally find that place you belong to. I mean, why else would you be in here, Trakan? Especially when you clearly have nothing exciting to say, other than some pathetic attempt to sound so badass?
Just another trickle on your stupid vendetta. Yawn.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.
[quote name='Strell']Boohoo, joining in on a discussion just to deliver a short sighted insult.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.[/quote]
What does being a mod have to do with this? Take away the mod status and I'm no different. I don't get why you keep bringing that up. It has nothing to do with this.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.[/quote]
What does being a mod have to do with this? Take away the mod status and I'm no different. I don't get why you keep bringing that up. It has nothing to do with this.
[quote name='Strell']Boohoo, joining in on a discussion just to deliver a short sighted insult. That's pathetic - trying to warm yourself up with the sense that you might finally find that place you belong to. I mean, why else would you be in here, Trakan? Especially when you clearly have nothing exciting to say, other than some pathetic attempt to sound so badass?
Just another trickle on your stupid vendetta. Yawn.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.[/quote]
I'm not trying to sound like a badass. Vendetta? You act like I do this on a regular basis. I'm talking about you here and now because you're the only one who does it.
4 particular posts out of your last page of posts are what I am referring to.
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482903#post2482903
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482890#post2482890
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482769#post2482769
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482776#post2482776
I can't find a Wii thread you haven't posted in.
Just another trickle on your stupid vendetta. Yawn.
I'm quite terrified, you being a big mean mod and all. And if you had any goddamn sense you'd realize you're offbase with....well, everything you said.[/quote]
I'm not trying to sound like a badass. Vendetta? You act like I do this on a regular basis. I'm talking about you here and now because you're the only one who does it.
4 particular posts out of your last page of posts are what I am referring to.
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482903#post2482903
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482890#post2482890
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482769#post2482769
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482776#post2482776
I can't find a Wii thread you haven't posted in.
[quote name='Trakan']I'm not trying to sound like a badass. Vendetta? You act like I do this on a regular basis. I'm talking about you here and now because you're the only one who does it.
4 particular posts out of your last page of posts are what I am referring to.
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482903#post2482903
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482890#post2482890
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482769#post2482769
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482776#post2482776
I can't find a Wii thread you haven't posted in.[/QUOTE]
Zzzzz. This sort of post gets to compete in a special brand of olympics where everyone wins.
For a mod, who is supposed to be blessed with the ability to mitigate situations in a classy manner, you're the only one who feels the need to project them out in the public. And, oddly, you're the only one who seems to have any problem with me. And if you had any sense, you'd take this into a private forum, but you've chosen not to. I've no ability to give evidence for or against this, but suffice to say, even in situations where mods are involved, none of them act so purely asinine and focused as you are. Case in point is the IWTM thread, which was a really pathetic attempt at...something, I'm not even sure what.
So we find ourselves once again with you coming from nowhere purely to be an ass, and act like you've got all the justification in the world. Which really means you have none, and that whatever legitimate devices your little mind is equipped with is far, far less than any I've used myself in the Wii threads.
You then back that up with a lot of idiotic attempts to paint me as this massively out of line poster who is constantly championing around the Wii. Which I guess is fine, since you're the one who dug around for posts. And since you've taken it upon yourself to bring this up about the fifth time (no, really, that's not worthy of being labeled "recurrent" at all) with me now, I again ask - why do you not go after certain other posters that are far more egregious about this sort of thing? I'm sure we can all name the most flamboyant PS3 and 360 people, let alone the arguments going on nonstop in those boards that I can't even hold a fanboy candle to.
Say what you want about the links up there. The second one is a total joke, I can't believe you actually find fault with it. The first is discussion, which was under the ability of board members last I checked. The other two? Wow. You got me. Particularly because I know you've done absolutely no homework on them beyond a simple ctrl+c and v.
Also, if you can't honestly find a Wii thread I haven't posted in, you're either mentally challenged or not trying hard enough.
Now I know you're at the end of this post and thinking "oh look, another big rant, score another one for me." Which is good. Pat yourself on the back. You really deserve it, being the most tactless authoritative figure in the midst of this website.
4 particular posts out of your last page of posts are what I am referring to.
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482903#post2482903
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482890#post2482890
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482769#post2482769
http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2482776#post2482776
I can't find a Wii thread you haven't posted in.[/QUOTE]
Zzzzz. This sort of post gets to compete in a special brand of olympics where everyone wins.
For a mod, who is supposed to be blessed with the ability to mitigate situations in a classy manner, you're the only one who feels the need to project them out in the public. And, oddly, you're the only one who seems to have any problem with me. And if you had any sense, you'd take this into a private forum, but you've chosen not to. I've no ability to give evidence for or against this, but suffice to say, even in situations where mods are involved, none of them act so purely asinine and focused as you are. Case in point is the IWTM thread, which was a really pathetic attempt at...something, I'm not even sure what.
So we find ourselves once again with you coming from nowhere purely to be an ass, and act like you've got all the justification in the world. Which really means you have none, and that whatever legitimate devices your little mind is equipped with is far, far less than any I've used myself in the Wii threads.
You then back that up with a lot of idiotic attempts to paint me as this massively out of line poster who is constantly championing around the Wii. Which I guess is fine, since you're the one who dug around for posts. And since you've taken it upon yourself to bring this up about the fifth time (no, really, that's not worthy of being labeled "recurrent" at all) with me now, I again ask - why do you not go after certain other posters that are far more egregious about this sort of thing? I'm sure we can all name the most flamboyant PS3 and 360 people, let alone the arguments going on nonstop in those boards that I can't even hold a fanboy candle to.
Say what you want about the links up there. The second one is a total joke, I can't believe you actually find fault with it. The first is discussion, which was under the ability of board members last I checked. The other two? Wow. You got me. Particularly because I know you've done absolutely no homework on them beyond a simple ctrl+c and v.
Also, if you can't honestly find a Wii thread I haven't posted in, you're either mentally challenged or not trying hard enough.
Now I know you're at the end of this post and thinking "oh look, another big rant, score another one for me." Which is good. Pat yourself on the back. You really deserve it, being the most tactless authoritative figure in the midst of this website.
[quote name='Strell']Zzzzz. This sort of post gets to compete in a special brand of olympics where everyone wins.
For a mod, who is supposed to be blessed with the ability to mitigate situations in a classy manner, you're the only one who feels the need to project them out in the public. And, oddly, you're the only one who seems to have any problem with me. And if you had any sense, you'd take this into a private forum, but you've chosen not to. I've no ability to give evidence for or against this, but suffice to say, even in situations where mods are involved, none of them act so purely asinine and focused as you are. Case in point is the IWTM thread, which was a really pathetic attempt at...something, I'm not even sure what.
So we find ourselves once again with you coming from nowhere purely to be an ass, and act like you've got all the justification in the world. Which really means you have none, and that whatever legitimate devices your little mind is equipped with is far, far less than any I've used myself in the Wii threads.
You then back that up with a lot of idiotic attempts to paint me as this massively out of line poster who is constantly championing around the Wii. Which I guess is fine, since you're the one who dug around for posts. And since you've taken it upon yourself to bring this up about the fifth time (no, really, that's not worthy of being labeled "recurrent" at all) with me now, I again ask - why do you not go after certain other posters that are far more egregious about this sort of thing? I'm sure we can all name the most flamboyant PS3 and 360 people, let alone the arguments going on nonstop in those boards that I can't even hold a fanboy candle to.
Say what you want about the links up there. The second one is a total joke, I can't believe you actually find fault with it. The first is discussion, which was under the ability of board members last I checked. The other two? Wow. You got me. Particularly because I know you've done absolutely no homework on them beyond a simple ctrl+c and v.
Also, if you can't honestly find a Wii thread I haven't posted in, you're either mentally challenged or not trying hard enough.
Now I know you're at the end of this post and thinking "oh look, another big rant, score another one for me." Which is good. Pat yourself on the back. You really deserve it, being the most tactless authoritative figure in the midst of this website.[/quote]
I've tried it in a private forum in the past. You complain, and I delete them thinking that you'll chill out. You may not get it, but you're the egregious flamboyant Wii version of those people. Oh and once again I've proven myself to be an ass, eh? You're the only one I've had to 'call out publicly.' Show me another instance that doesn't include you. You can't.
I'm clearly not the only one who has had a problem with you amongst the mods in the past. Any post of yours that has ever been deleted was not done so by me and I was not the mod who locked the IWTM thread the second time - whether or not you believe it. I only have to act 'tactless' when I'm dealing with you. Again, if possible, show me where I've proven to be an ass and acted like a tactless authorative figure when dealing with anyone other than you. You still can't.
You keep turning this around like it's about me. It's not about me. It's about you. I'm not doing this for a pat on the back nor am I doing it to be a badass. I just want you to chill out and quit being a goddamn hypocrite. You're a Nintendo/Wii fanboy. We get it.
Let's try this. You quit calling every motherer who has a problem with the Wii out and acting exactly like the 360/PS3 clowns that you speak of, and I'll shut up.
For a mod, who is supposed to be blessed with the ability to mitigate situations in a classy manner, you're the only one who feels the need to project them out in the public. And, oddly, you're the only one who seems to have any problem with me. And if you had any sense, you'd take this into a private forum, but you've chosen not to. I've no ability to give evidence for or against this, but suffice to say, even in situations where mods are involved, none of them act so purely asinine and focused as you are. Case in point is the IWTM thread, which was a really pathetic attempt at...something, I'm not even sure what.
So we find ourselves once again with you coming from nowhere purely to be an ass, and act like you've got all the justification in the world. Which really means you have none, and that whatever legitimate devices your little mind is equipped with is far, far less than any I've used myself in the Wii threads.
You then back that up with a lot of idiotic attempts to paint me as this massively out of line poster who is constantly championing around the Wii. Which I guess is fine, since you're the one who dug around for posts. And since you've taken it upon yourself to bring this up about the fifth time (no, really, that's not worthy of being labeled "recurrent" at all) with me now, I again ask - why do you not go after certain other posters that are far more egregious about this sort of thing? I'm sure we can all name the most flamboyant PS3 and 360 people, let alone the arguments going on nonstop in those boards that I can't even hold a fanboy candle to.
Say what you want about the links up there. The second one is a total joke, I can't believe you actually find fault with it. The first is discussion, which was under the ability of board members last I checked. The other two? Wow. You got me. Particularly because I know you've done absolutely no homework on them beyond a simple ctrl+c and v.
Also, if you can't honestly find a Wii thread I haven't posted in, you're either mentally challenged or not trying hard enough.
Now I know you're at the end of this post and thinking "oh look, another big rant, score another one for me." Which is good. Pat yourself on the back. You really deserve it, being the most tactless authoritative figure in the midst of this website.[/quote]
I've tried it in a private forum in the past. You complain, and I delete them thinking that you'll chill out. You may not get it, but you're the egregious flamboyant Wii version of those people. Oh and once again I've proven myself to be an ass, eh? You're the only one I've had to 'call out publicly.' Show me another instance that doesn't include you. You can't.
I'm clearly not the only one who has had a problem with you amongst the mods in the past. Any post of yours that has ever been deleted was not done so by me and I was not the mod who locked the IWTM thread the second time - whether or not you believe it. I only have to act 'tactless' when I'm dealing with you. Again, if possible, show me where I've proven to be an ass and acted like a tactless authorative figure when dealing with anyone other than you. You still can't.
You keep turning this around like it's about me. It's not about me. It's about you. I'm not doing this for a pat on the back nor am I doing it to be a badass. I just want you to chill out and quit being a goddamn hypocrite. You're a Nintendo/Wii fanboy. We get it.
Let's try this. You quit calling every mother
er who has a problem with the Wii out and acting exactly like the 360/PS3 clowns that you speak of, and I'll shut up.
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