Changing over to PS3

Uncookedcookie

Uncookedcookie

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Hey CAGS I currently own a Xbox 360 and a PS3. I rarely play my PS3 because all the games on it are also on 360. Now with almost all of the new games being on both systems this question popped up in my mind. My xbox got the red rings of death last week. And i am considering trading all my 360 games through Goozex and getting their PS3 counterparts do you guys think this is a good idea?
 
Do you play online a lot with friends on Live?

Do you care about the upcoming exlusives like Gears 2, Fable 2, Too Human etc.?

If the answer to those is no, then I see no reason to not just move to PS3 only. If it's yes, then you have more to think about.
 
The correct path would be: Sell your PS3/games and buy more Xbox 360 stuff. There's a reason you played the PS3 so little while having both:
It stinks.

Unless better games, better online network, and better controllers/accessories don't really matter to you.

:cool:
 
Basically as far as Single player stuff goes it really doesn't make a difference. Multiplayer on the other hand is much better on the 360 as it has one universal system for all of your friends and makes it much easier to get into games with people you know. That, and the PS3 online community isn't particularly robust compared to the 360 community.

Basically if Online isn't that important to you and you're not interested in any of the upcoming 360 exclusives, then why not switch?
 
You should trade with CAGs first. I've got sealed copies of GTA IV and MGS 4 for the PS3, and I'm looking for 360 games (preferably Soul Calibur IV) :)

~HotShotX
 
[quote name='ryanbph']why trade it all, when you can get your 360 fixed for free[/quote]


I assume the wait would be longer than accessing Goozex and buying a PS3. Sometimes, the lure of quick gratification can make people do things they'll later regret. ;)
 
It is all about exclusives. If you think you wont be kicking your self in the butt later on when the 360 exclusives come out, then by all means sell it. Also if you don't play online, then sell your 360.

Personally, I have a PS3 only because I had extra cash and am interested in about 3 exclusives. Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM, and if any other games pop up i'll get those.
 
Not a bad idea. I mean early on, many games ported to PS3 suffered (partially due to devs being new with the cell and due to some devs only have 160MB ram to work with due to large amounts being reserved for the OS, but now devs have more RAM to work with since Sony now reserves less for the OS compared to early on). As of late, games on PS3 and 360 are about equal most of the time (with minor graphical differences between the two consoles.

If all your friends are on XBL, just get the 360 versions. If all your friends are on PSN, just get the PS3 version. If you are a heavy online person and don't mind paying, stick with the 360 version. If you like to play online sometimes and prefer not to pay, buy the PS3 version.

The only time I'd be uncertain about a PS3 version of a game is if it was heavily designed for PC and/or using UE3 engine.
 
My rule of thumb for this is
If its multiplayer I Buy the 360 version.
If its something thats single player I buy the PS3 verison
 
ask in the PS3 forum.


I have a PS3 for the Blue Ray player, and now I am happy because of games like Killzone 2 and Res 2.....

but online, I hate the PS3.....
 
[quote name='chasemurata']I assume the wait would be longer than accessing Goozex and buying a PS3. Sometimes, the lure of quick gratification can make people do things they'll later regret. ;)[/quote]

he already has a ps3..so he already has the instant gratification...trade some (not all ) of your 360 games on goozex that you don't plan on playing and get MGS4. That should hold him over for awhile. If you already own both and aren't having cash flow problems, then just get the 360 fixed. I would assume since you own both, that both systems appeal to you.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']he already has a ps3..so he already has the instant gratification...trade some (not all ) of your 360 games on goozex that you don't plan on playing and get MGS4. That should hold him over for awhile. If you already own both and aren't having cash flow problems, then just get the 360 fixed. I would assume since you own both, that both systems appeal to you.[/quote]


Ah yes, whoops. :oops:

But yes, I agree with Ryan. Just get it fixed and play with your PS3 in the meanwhile.
 
[quote name='foxdvd']
I have a PS3 for the Blue Ray player, and now I am happy because of games like Killzone 2 and Res 2.....

but online, I hate the PS3.....[/QUOTE]

That is basically why I got one too. I got my PS3 because it was a cheap Blu-Ray player that also has the ability to play MGS4. The 360 is definitely my main console and I'll buy all my multiplatform games for it, but it is nice to have the option of having exclusives from both consoles.
 
[quote name='Tha Xecutioner']Unless better games, better online network, and better controllers/accessories don't really matter to you.

:cool:[/quote]Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH!

$70 for a controller/play and charge kit
$55 for a Dualshock 3

$180 for a 120GB hard drive
$100 for a 320GB hard drive

$100 for a wifi adaptor
Free, it's built in

$50 for a 512 MB memory card
$15 for a 2 GB USB thumb drive

Headset comes free with the system, but you can use any (more comfortable) bluetooth headset with the PS3, or the PS Eye.

I'm not even going to bother with the HD-DVD drive.
 
Oh man I really want to be a 360 fanboy. Here let me try...

Yea definitely don't do it. First off send your 360 into microsoft so it can get repaired. Then sell your PS3 and buy another 360 to play while your other 360 is at the repair center and just always have two 360s!. The likely hood of the 360 RRing is so likely that it will be good to have 2 at once since one of them will probably almost always break down and you will still have the other to play on! 360 rocks my socks off and I love halo!!!!
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH!

$70 for a controller/play and charge kit
$55 for a Dualshock 3

$180 for a 120GB hard drive
$100 for a 320GB hard drive

$100 for a wifi adaptor
Free, it's built in

$50 for a 512 MB memory card
$15 for a 2 GB USB thumb drive

Headset comes free with the system, but you can use any (more comfortable) bluetooth headset with the PS3, or the PS Eye.

I'm not even going to bother with the HD-DVD drive.[/quote]

Not to play into the flamebait here but a lower price doesn't mean that it's better...

For a wifi adapter, I use my laptop. ZOMG FREE!

You have fun popping open your PS3 to install that hard drive when I just plug mine in. Also, people have gotten the 120GB HD for as low as 75 dollars. Plus you need that hard drive with all the mandatory installs you get.

Why do I need a memory card when I have a hard drive!? ZOMG I DON'T!

As for controllers, I really don't think anybody on CAG has paid 70 dollars for a controller. Personally I really like the look/feel of the 360 controller over the DS3, but it's just subjective.


I don't consider myself a fanboy at all, my brother has a ps3 that gets used a bunch too, but in my opinion the 360 is better at playing games. Especially in multiplayer. But again, just my opinion.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']You have fun popping open your PS3 to install that hard drive when I just plug mine in. Also, people have gotten the 120GB HD for as low as 75 dollars. Plus you need that hard drive with all the mandatory installs you get.[/quote]

Because it is so hard to take out a couple screws and slide in a new hard drive? It must be awesome to have so many hard drive options with the 360 and all at such awesome prices!! Go look to see how much a 2.5" 120 gb HD is...
 
I have no idea how hard it is to switch out the PS3 hard drive, I've never done it. But taking out a bunch of screws, taking the old one out, putting in the new one, and then screwing it back in seems harder than plugging in the 360 HD.

And I'm not defending the price of the 360 HD, it's overpriced, but let's not pretend you need 120 GB to be happy with your 360. I still have the 20GB and I have 8 gigs free, and I have a bunch of DLC.
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']I have no idea how hard it is to switch out the PS3 hard drive, I've never done it. But taking out a bunch of screws, taking the old one out, putting in the new one, and then screwing it back in seems harder than plugging in the 360 HD.

And I'm not defending the price of the 360 HD, it's overpriced, but let's not pretend you need 120 GB to be happy with your 360. I still have the 20GB and I have 8 gigs free, and I have a bunch of DLC.[/quote]


Isn't there only ~13gbs free out of the box? I take it you must have not have any big demos and movies,tv shows, etc
 
That's true. I don't keep demos on my xbox so that works in my favor. I have about 2 gigs of RB content, COD4 maps, Halo maps, and a bunch of arcade games.

To the OP - since you have a PS3, you really already have the best of both worlds, so while your xbox is being repaired, just play some PS3
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH!

$70 for a controller/play and charge kit
$55 for a Dualshock 3

$180 for a 120GB hard drive
$100 for a 320GB hard drive

$100 for a wifi adaptor
Free, it's built in

$50 for a 512 MB memory card
$15 for a 2 GB USB thumb drive

Headset comes free with the system, but you can use any (more comfortable) bluetooth headset with the PS3, or the PS Eye.

I'm not even going to bother with the HD-DVD drive.[/QUOTE]
I dont think the DS3 comes with charging cable, but that cost like $2, $3?
 
[quote name='tokitoki50']Not to play into the flamebait here but a lower price doesn't mean that it's better...

For a wifi adapter, I use my laptop. ZOMG FREE!

You have fun popping open your PS3 to install that hard drive when I just plug mine in. Also, people have gotten the 120GB HD for as low as 75 dollars. Plus you need that hard drive with all the mandatory installs you get.

Why do I need a memory card when I have a hard drive!? ZOMG I DON'T!

As for controllers, I really don't think anybody on CAG has paid 70 dollars for a controller. Personally I really like the look/feel of the 360 controller over the DS3, but it's just subjective.


I don't consider myself a fanboy at all, my brother has a ps3 that gets used a bunch too, but in my opinion the 360 is better at playing games. Especially in multiplayer. But again, just my opinion.[/quote]I didn't mean cheap is better, what 360 accessories are on the market that are better than PS3 counterparts? You can't compare hard drives, controllers function the same, and at least with the PS3 you have a ridiculous amount of options. That's cool you use your laptop, does that come with the 360? And I do have fun sliding the little slot open and lightly pulling out my hard drive. I do it for shits and giggles sometimes just because I can. And the funny part? I can easily back up my data, without having to download a shitty content manager, as many times as I want without having to wait 6 months. Hell, I can put my content on 5 systems if I want.

Funny you mention installs. Everybody has been waiting for that option on 360 so you don't have to listen to the loud as fuck DVD drive. Let me guess, your drive is silent, right? ZOMGWTFBBQ

I don't see how you find the 360 to be better at playing games than the PS3. A majority of the games are exactly the same. It sounds like you don't know much about one to be honest.
 
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[quote name='TimPV3']Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH!

$70 for a controller/play and charge kit
$55 for a Dualshock 3

$180 for a 120GB hard drive
$100 for a 320GB hard drive

$100 for a wifi adaptor
Free, it's built in

$50 for a 512 MB memory card
$15 for a 2 GB USB thumb drive

Headset comes free with the system, but you can use any (more comfortable) bluetooth headset with the PS3, or the PS Eye.

I'm not even going to bother with the HD-DVD drive.[/quote]Goddamn.

If that post isn't enough to convince you to follow the Sell your PS3 because it stinks path, then I don't know what will.
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH!

$70 for a controller/play and charge kit
$55 for a Dualshock 3

$180 for a 120GB hard drive
$100 for a 320GB hard drive

$100 for a wifi adaptor
Free, it's built in

$50 for a 512 MB memory card
$15 for a 2 GB USB thumb drive

Headset comes free with the system, but you can use any (more comfortable) bluetooth headset with the PS3, or the PS Eye.

I'm not even going to bother with the HD-DVD drive.[/quote]

Not everyone needs a memory upgrade or a wi-fi adaptor. Also, there is no headset that comes with the PS3, and yet you dont mark that as a price:

Bluetooth headset : $30

You're so biased it isn't funny.

As for online play, the 360 has the better setup hands down. It has more users, and finding games is no problem, unlike the PS3, which suffers from a lack of online players, which really hurts games like UT3 which are primarily online. And the lag of PsP? Have you ever played XBL? It hardly ever lags. I get lag maybe one game a week in Halo, and I play a lot of Halo.

Speaking of headsets and online play, since the PS3 doesnt come wit ha headset, not that many people have headsets on PSN, which really takes the fun out of online play. It is like playing against bots when you can't hear people talk, and whats worse is that you can't strategize because no one can hear your plans or make plans for the team.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']Doesn't really matter any more. Every fricken game is multiplatform anyways... *sighs* This generation is lame.[/quote]

Yea, Gears 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM, Fable, Left 4 Dead, Halo Wars are all multiplatform.
 
[quote name='TimPV3']Better online network? The only thing the PS3 lacks right now is cross game invites and private chat. Big deal. Since most online games run on their own servers, you don't have to put up with all the lag of p2p. Better controllers/accessories? HAH! [/QUOTE]PSN isn't all that bad either. I'm fine not having those features for free. I can still have videochats with friends if I want. If it's true about PS3 having in-game video chats late in the year, that would rock. However, I don't want to chat with friends when playing a story oriented game (or music game like SingStar), I want to be left along.
[quote name='TimPV3']
I don't see how you find the 360 to be better at playing games than the PS3. A majority of the games are exactly the same. It sounds like you don't know much about one to be honest.[/QUOTE]Both are very similar IMO. It mostly comes down to controller preference. One console being greatly better than the other for multi-platform games is a myth IMO (both are quite close).
 
The 360 hardware is a train wreck, CAG users don't seem to understand that some people get tired of sending their consoles to and fro.

Some players just want to play their games, so the PS3's seemingly better build allows them to just pick up and play (without fear of breaking their console).

We are aware that the repair is free, but it's the cost of time that bothers many people the most.

That said I'm still waiting on this generation until I can comfortably afford an HDTV.
 
Mr Cookie, I'd suggest getting the Circle repaired and enjoying the ps3 games in the interum. Now if there are no games that appeal to you which are only on the 360 or are superior on the 360, then do what you're thinking and trade away the 360 games, and sell the working accessories from the 360 here or on ebay.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']The only time I'd be uncertain about a PS3 version of a game is if it was heavily designed for PC and/or using UE3 engine.[/quote]That isn't the only time. As a quick example, Dirt and Grid, are both amazing racing games, both by Codemasters, but one is bettter on the ps3 (dirt), and the other is better on the 360 (grid).


Now to business. The OP asked for advice, and feel free to give some unbiased assistance. I've deleted a few posts, sent out a couple warnings and removed a blatantly fanboy tag (not surprizingly which was submitted by someone who's posts also had to be removed). If you have nothing other than "MY SYSTEM ROCKS AND YOURS SUCKS" to say, then say it on another website.

Facts can speak for themselves, and that's what we're looking for.

Any further idiotic fanboyish posts will get infractions and not the zero-point warnings that have been handed out.
 
[quote name='guinaevere']
That isn't the only time. As a quick example, Dirt and Grid, are both amazing racing games, both by Codemasters, but one is bettter on the ps3 (dirt), and the other is better on the 360 (grid). .[/QUOTE]I could agree there (when playing both versions of DiRT, I just own the PS3 version. Based on demo impressions on GRID, I agree there also). Although from what I believe, DiRT was made on the Phyre(sp) Engine which is actually an engine Sony supports/sponsors/whatever (it was at GDC) that allows them to develop a PS3 game using a PC type architecture (which is part of the reason it looks so great on PS3).

Regardless, although one console may have a slight advantage in DiRT and GRID, I personally don't feel it's one of those differences for some people to make a big fuss over (both are fantastic). It's not like comparing Lost Planet on PS3 to the 360 version (PS3 got a VERY sloppy port). ;)
 
I've also considered changing over to the PS3 exclusively. It's not because of the quality of software (which is pretty awesome) but because of the quality of the hardware (which is pretty awful). I'll still keep my 360 but I'm not buying anything but online multi-player games and exclusives from now on.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Although from what I believe, DiRT was made on the Phyre(sp) Engine which is actually an engine Sony supports/sponsors/whatever (it was at GDC) that allows them to develop a PS3 game using a PC type architecture (which is part of the reason it looks so great on PS3).[/quote]Unless I'm remembering wrong, I believe it's Codemasters own neon engine: Ego.

Regardless, although one console may have a slight advantage in DiRT and GRID, I personally don't feel it's one of those differences for some people to make a big fuss over (both are fantastic).
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For folks who are big on the driving genre and want the best possible version, they are differences worth noting. I chose this example as there are tons of shooter examples where one console has a huge advantage over another; just trying to put another genre in there for discussion.

It's not like comparing Lost Planet on PS3 to the 360 version (PS3 got a VERY sloppy port). ;)
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Yeah, I don't know what Capcom was thinking with that... They were decent with ports once upon a time, LP and upcoming DR wii makes me skerred.
 
[quote name='guinaevere']Unless I'm remembering wrong, I believe it's Codemasters own neon engine: Ego. [/QUOTE]I remember that engine too, but here's what I pulled up (I remember hearing this):

Quietly unveiled at yesterday's PSN session was PhyreEngine, a new "free to use graphics engine" from Sony Computer Entertainment. According to the presentation, the package includes full documentation, "70+ samples" and "full source code and artwork" of sample game templates. Working on both OpenGL and Direct3D, this engine will allow developers to more easily develop for the PS3 by using PC environments they're more familiar with. A "simple recompile" is supposedly all that's needed to make the game run on the PS3. Sony is promising "ongoing development and support" for the PhyreEngine.

The ramifications of this subdued announcement are actually quite significant. Three titles have been revealed to have used the PhyreEngine for development: flOw, GripShift and DiRT. Of those three, only one is exclusive to PlayStation. It appears that the PhyreEngine is truly cross platform -- Sony is indirectly contributing to the development of PC and Xbox 360 games.
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http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/02/21/gdc08-phyreengine-sonys-new-free-cross-platform-engine/

I dunno, it might share resources/similarities to the neon engine, not completely sure, but it's what I saw.
[quote name='guinaevere']
Yeah, I don't know what Capcom was thinking with that... They were decent with ports once upon a time, LP and upcoming DR wii makes me skerred.[/QUOTE]I have a feeling they outsourced it. Usually Capcom ports aren't bad at all (RE4 even held up decently on PS2 if I believe, despite the GC having some edge in graphics (like for textures)).
[quote name='PhreQuencYViii']If a Dualshock 3 battery dies, is it replaceable? Always wondered that.

PS3 for PS3 games, 360 for everything else would probably work.[/QUOTE]The manual tells you how. But the chances of batteries dying anytime soon are pretty slim (they are like batteries in some thing, which last for quite a while). I've had my controllers for a while and haven't noticed them lasting any less.
 
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[quote name='DarkNessBear']Doesn't really matter any more. Every fricken game is multiplatform anyways... *sighs* This generation is lame.[/quote]

Yeah, I fucking hate only having to buy one console to play all the games I want. This is fucking bullshit, I'm gonnna quit gaming.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
The manual tells you how. But the chances of batteries dying anytime soon are pretty slim (they are like batteries in some thing, which last for quite a while). I've had my controllers for a while and haven't noticed them lasting any less.[/QUOTE]

Good to know, I've always wondered whats going to happen to all our dead batteries and 360s years from now. A lot of people keep there systems for years, or are into older games and I guess sometime some of this stuff won't be usable years from now.
 
[quote name='PhreQuencYViii']Good to know, I've always wondered whats going to happen to all our dead batteries and 360s years from now. A lot of people keep there systems for years, or are into older games and I guess sometime some of this stuff won't be usable years from now.[/quote]

Might be a good idea to get a wired 360 controller or stock up on batteries. Don't know what to do about PS3 controllers though.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
Both are very similar IMO. It mostly comes down to controller preference. One console being greatly better than the other for multi-platform games is a myth IMO (both are quite close).[/QUOTE]

Very true. What it comes down to is.

1. Which exclusivies do you like more.

2. Which do you have more friends playing online (if you do online gaming) and do you care about cross game invites, private chat etc.

3. Which controller do you like more.

People just need to go through those, decide which one is for them and buy it and shut up with all the fanboy non-sense about which is "better."
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Very true. What it comes down to is.

1. Which exclusivies do you like more.

2. Which do you have more friends playing online (if you do online gaming) and do you care about cross game invites, private chat etc.

3. Which controller do you like more.

People just need to go through those, decide which one is for them and buy it and shut up with all the fanboy non-sense about which is "better."[/quote]

But then what will they have to argue about? You're acting like fanboys have any common sense at all.
 
Do whatever you want, OP. Because of the console reliability of the 360, I only buy exclusive games for that, and buy all my other games for the PS3.

But some people here get heartbroken and defensive if you suggest you'll ditch your 360, and tell you about how broken the PS3 version of The Orange Box is (
it isn't
) - in the end, do what you feel is right for you. If the system's reliability is enough to push you away from XBL, achievements, and all that jazz, then do it.

You won't, I'm certain, find a vastly different gaming experience on the PS3.
 
[quote name='help1']Yea, Gears 2, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM, Fable, Left 4 Dead, Halo Wars are all multiplatform.[/QUOTE]

You neglected to mention Killzone, Little Big Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Mario Kart Wii, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. All three consoles have exclusives, though there's no way to tell that from your list. :roll:

Anyway, back on topic:

[quote name='Uncookedcookie']Hey CAGS I currently own a Xbox 360 and a PS3. I rarely play my PS3 because all the games on it are also on 360. Now with almost all of the new games being on both systems this question popped up in my mind. My xbox got the red rings of death last week. And i am considering trading all my 360 games through Goozex and getting their PS3 counterparts do you guys think this is a good idea?[/QUOTE]

If the 360's still under warranty and you can fix the RRoD without paying for it, go that route. You get crap as return on your investment if you sell or trade games away, and keeping both systems means that you'd be able to play any exclusives that do come out in the future, or pick the version you want based on any extra features one console has over another (like Yoda in the 360 Soul Caliber 4 and Vader in the PS3 version, who are at least "officially" still version exclusives).
 
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