CheapyD's Motorstorm Review - Now updated

[quote name='javeryh']Why would a racing game need a 2-player mode? Oh well, maybe they can patch in a 2 player mode in 6 months. Or better yet, they could charge you individually for parts and when you've bought enough to make an ATV then you can "unlock" 2 player mode. No wait, I've got it... 2-player mode is probably in there but only playable on Sony 1080p televisions.... yeah, that's got to be it. If you really want the high tech 2-player mode you should just work harder and buy these things. What's the problem again? I don't see one.[/QUOTE]
:lol: Great post.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']You guys are listening to CheapyD about a PS3 game?

Hes the one that said Resistance isnt that good.[/QUOTE]

He also has a PS3. If I remember correctly, Cheapy said Resistance was a pretty standard, good shooter. It doesn't redefine the genre, but it's still a solid title. When placed side to side with Gears, it's not as good a game.
 
I've been playing for a couple hours now and I'll definitely have a slightly different take than Cheapy. I'm gonna play a bit more, then probably type enough that no one will want to read it. :whistle2:s
 
[quote name='furyk']He also has a PS3. If I remember correctly, Cheapy said Resistance was a pretty standard, good shooter. It doesn't redefine the genre, but it's still a solid title. When placed side to side with Gears, it's not as good a game.[/quote]

I say Resistance is better then Gears.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']a 75% is right when there isn't an option to play 2 player, and only 7 tracks that , as said, get repetitive? Man, you are more lenient than I am.[/QUOTE]

repetitive is all a personal state of mind. Hell people can say pretty much every game is repetitive because you use any button more than once or any move more than once or fight any sort of enemy more than once.

I say Resistance is better then Gears.

I say Resistance is not better than Gears
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I say Resistance is better then Gears.[/QUOTE]
I'd say the same thing if the story was more explanitory in Resistance...then again the story wasn't all that superb in Gears either.

I don't see why everyone is comparing them. Sure, they both have aliens attacking earth, but one is a 3rd person shooter and one is a first person shooter. They play very differently.


As for one being better than the other, I'd say they are both good well above average games, but neither redefine their specific genre from what I've played.
 
There are actually eight tracks--Cheapy's list is missing Coyote Rage.


I just finished playing for about 3 hours and I'm really impressed with what this game delivers. Admittedly, it doesn't deliver tons of game modes, minigames, multiplayer, etc. It's just a really great racing game with no fluff.

The intro video is great. It starts with some cheesy movie-trailer type voiceover about "a new breed of warrior coming to Monument Valley" or somesuch--while you watch a caravan of buggies, school buses, RVs and the like wind through the desert. The scenery is pretty breathtaking.

The video culminates with the camera cresting a ridge to reveal a huge Burning Man/Lollapalooza style celebration in progress with hordes of people, tents, and races going on. It's really cool and sets the tone nicely. It also might set your expectations a little too high for what's to come. Because, while you get to see this amazing festival going on in the intro, you never really get the feeling you're part of that festival--even though that's ostensibly the purpose behind all the racing.

As previously stated, "Festival" is the only game mode. There are a couple other things on the main menu: Setup and Movies, but that's it. The movies section contains the game's intro, other promotional trailers, a pretty neat video showing the progression of the game from primitive models to its current state, and a video that's an entirely in-engine fly through of Monument Valley (that I'll probably use as a demonstration video whenever someone wants to check out the PS3--it's ridiculously gorgeous).

The game is structured in a series of levels, each of which is broken into a handful of events on a "ticket." Finishing in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in a race gets you a stamp for that event and either 30, 20, or 10 points. Accumulating points opens up additional events. That's it. It gets no more complicated (or interesting) than that. It's disappointing that there's not more meat to the game modes, but it's all about the racing.

And the racing rules. The tracks are mostly enormous and contain all sorts of different routes to complete them, many of which you may not even see your first couple times through. And, even though every track is set in Monument Valley, there's still a nice amount of variety in course layout and even in the road surfaces. You'll drive on dirt, mud, rock, metal, wood, and some other man made surfaces (one looks like pavement, but I'm not too certain). Of course, you won't feel the difference in your hands without the rumble, but you can definitely tell the difference in the handling. Lose momentum in a muddy section, and you'll be slogging through at a snail's pace, for example.

Speaking of speed, I'm not certain where those criticisms come from. The game feels plenty fast, especially in the first-person camera. Naturally, some of the vehicles are faster than the others--the big rigs, for example, take a fortnight to get rolling, but once they do, it takes an act of God to stop them. The different vehicle types all have a pretty different feel to them, as you'd expect, which is nice, though some of them are total throwaways (does anyone really want to play as the big rig...ever?).

Similarly, I don't agree with the criticism about the game feeling "floaty." The only time it feels floaty at all is, well, when you're floating. If your vehicle gets airborne, it feels floaty. But that's kind of the point. In order to maintain speed, you have to choose a line and drive such that your wheels stay in contact with the ground as much as possible. If it feels too floaty, you're just catching too much air and need to choose a better line through the course.

Also, on the subject of control, the Sixaxis functionality works surprisingly well, which is pretty much what I said after trying it in the demo--it works, near as I can tell, exactly as it did in the demo.

The CPU driver AI is pretty soft early on, but in later levels get downright devilish. On many occasions, the computer will ride your ass and work like hell to get your car sideways or put you off a cliff/into a wall. Motorcycle and ATV riders will punch you right off your ride as well--and that little mechanic is pretty fun in and of itself (though, truth told, it really just makes me wish we could get a new Road Rash game).

Visually, the game can, at times, look completely ordinary--some of the textures are blah, some of the geometry is too simple, and some of the vegetation is pretty 2D (many of those issues are on Raingod Mesa, the demo level). However, it's largely amazing to look at and contains many moments that are absolutely on par with that "CG bait and switch" trailer. When you get a perfect confluence of mud-encrusted cars flying overhead, exploding and flipping, combined with lighting effects, particle effects, and some great textures, it just looks silly good. I'd certainly put Motorstorm right there with Gears of War and Half-Life 2 as the most visually impressive games I've ever seen.

I think the bottomline on this game is: if you were really into the PS Store demo, like I was, there's no reason to think you won't really enjoy this game. I played the demo dozens of times, and it never felt stale--it was always a little wild and unpredictable. A lot of the other tracks really dial that sensation up a notch. There's no denying that the dearth of modes and options is a disappointment. And I agree with Cheapy that a simple multiplayer component alone isn't really enough to remedy that. Still, what's here is, for me, so good, so refined, and so entertaining, that I anticipate playing this for a long, long time.

(and not just because there isn't a goddamn thing coming out for PS3 until March ;))
 
Thanks for sharing your thoughts (and correction), mik. I made the track addition in the OP.

[quote name='mik']Admittedly, it doesn't deliver tons of game modes, minigames, multiplayer, etc. It's just a really great racing game with no fluff.[/quote]
I certainly didn't expect tons, but more than 1 would be nice. ;)
 
After hearing this review of Motorstorm (the one game that perked my interest at all, not being a huge FPS person) I think I'm going to hold out for the PS3 SLIM. By then it should have more than 1 half-decent game, will most likely drop alot in price, and I will have finished (hopefully) this stack of PS2/DS/PSP games I still have yet to pop in their respective slots. (additionally it may fit in my console cabinet and not dwarf my subwoofer in scale)
 
Waiting a while isn't a bad idea, certainly, but I think it's a little silly to make the decision to "wait for a PS3 slim" (which is probably not going to come out for 3-4 years if at all) based on a console's first month.

Oh, and PS3 isn't actually that big. It's just the convex top that makes it seem large. Since the AC adapter is internal, it actually takes up less total space than the Xbox 360 with its submarine sandwich-sized power brick.
 
[quote name='icruise']Waiting a while isn't a bad idea, certainly, but I think it's a little silly to make the decision to "wait for a PS3 slim" (which is probably not going to come out for 3-4 years if at all) based on a console's first month.

Oh, and PS3 isn't actually that big. It's just the convex top that makes it seem large. Since the AC adapter is internal, it actually takes up less total space than the Xbox 360 with its submarine sandwich-sized power brick.[/quote]

Do you have one? I had to cut out more room in my entertainment center to fit the PS3 in. Though the internal power supply is a plus there is no way you can use it to support a PS3 > 360 argument. (Not saying you were)
 
[quote name='zewone']Of course you do sweetheart.[/quote]
I do believe its true.

Playing through Resistances Single Player and Gears of Wars Singleplayer. I had alot more intenese moments and a more filled game with Resistance. Also the length of the game is suprisingly lengthy. And the narration in Resistance is alot better then any story telling elements in Gears.

And Resistance has alot more shit in it. It has multiplayer team matching, which noone fails to aknowledge, it has clan support, points, ect. So in full, Resistance is a better game.

ALTHOUGH, I have more fun with Gears of War multiplayer due to the fact that it is different and I enjoy smaller games. I also perfer third person over first. But I still think Resistance is a better game.
 
I just played the demo, low quality textures, lots of aliasing, and really oversensitive motion sensing. It was impossible to use.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']I do believe its true.

Playing through Resistances Single Player and Gears of Wars Singleplayer. I had alot more intenese moments and a more filled game with Resistance. Also the length of the game is suprisingly lengthy. And the narration in Resistance is alot better then any story telling elements in Gears.

And Resistance has alot more shit in it. It has multiplayer team matching, which noone fails to aknowledge, it has clan support, points, ect. So in full, Resistance is a better game. [/quote]

Uh i know i am going off topic here and i know it's all opinions but this is crazy talk. While there are tense moments in Resistance they are nothing compared to Gears of War which forces you to hide for your life. I thought both games were rather short and yes Resistance did have far better storytelling but the gameplay was rather generic at times feeling like a Call of Duty knock off at times (though with far cooler weapons.) Gears of War was able to toss in a new element of the duck and cover which kept the game fresh while Resistance relied on the sometimes stupid Weapons or the story and not actual game play mechanics. As for online play, resistance feels pretty generic with some interesting Chimera VS Humans aspects that i did not get into. Gears of War has some thing different about it with the Chainsaw and the duck and cover system which is surprising and very strategic, something that Resistance does not pull of as well. All and all i lean towards Gears which is better in almost all accounts.

The whole motorstorm thing has me interested still, maybe get some downloadable content, online play and 2 player (plus) support and i might snag it. I need something to show off my PS3 and motorstorm is probably my best bet.
 
I definitely enjoyed the Motorstorm demo but was having reservations about the variety, especially the variance in tracks and racing. It's a great-looking game though and up there with the best the 360 has to offer. I'm hoping the online addition for the U.S. will make it more worthwhile.
 
Man I'm sick of people trying soooo hard to defend Resistance and it's mediocrity. It is a plain plain FPS. It's not bad. But its certainly not the fucking PS3 "killer app" people are trying to make it be. I thought Cheapy's review was the most sane review because he seemed to be the only one who acknowledge that "Yes, this game? Not that different from any other FPS."

Back on topic:

Does anyone else think that this game will still score much too high because of the amount of hype it has received? Granted, this can only be true if the US version is the same as the JPN version?

Also Cheapy, if you had to give Motorstorm a score out of 10, what would it be?/
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Man I'm sick of people trying soooo hard to defend Resistance and it's mediocrity. It is a plain plain FPS. It's not bad. But its certainly not the fucking PS3 "killer app" people are trying to make it be. I thought Cheapy's review was the most sane review because he seemed to be the only one who acknowledge that "Yes, this game? Not that different from any other FPS."

Back on topic:

Does anyone else think that this game will still score much too high because of the amount of hype it has received? Granted, this can only be true if the US version is the same as the JPN version?

Also Cheapy, if you had to give Motorstorm a score out of 10, what would it be?/[/QUOTE]
So you own and have played through Resistance, right?
 
[quote name='whoknows']So you own and have played through Resistance, right?[/QUOTE]

Do I own it? No. Have I played it for at least 4-5 hours? Yes. From what I played. The game? Not that special. Is the 4-5 hours enough to give a thorough impression of the game? Of course not. But was it enough to tell me how good the game is? Yes. And through those various game sessions, did I ever come away amazed? Not really. I mean I had fun, but if I ever called it a killer app, I'd probably want to get my head checked. The 9s and high 8s this game received from reviews is ridiculous if you ask me. Anything from the range of 7.5 to say 8.3 is more reasonable.
 
Resistance is only a killer app compared to the rest of the PS3 lineup, which while not bad, is almost entirely available on the Xbox 360. But it's definitely a good game, and I've actually enjoyed it more than Gears of War. I just haven't gotten into GoW as much as some people seem to be.
 
[quote name='scorpers']I have to say that I totally agree with you! How can you release a game and not have local mulitplayer! It is a joke![/QUOTE]Some of us have no one else to play games with. Bomberman for 360 had no local multi-player.

[quote name='javeryh']Let me set this straight - I don't hate Sony. I own a PS1, a PS2, a PS2 Slim and a PSP. I love every one of those systems. In fact, I think the PS2 has the best software lineup in the history of videogames. If someone bought one now they wouldn't be done playing the AAA titles until the PS4 was available. It's the only last-gen system I'm still playing regularly. [/QUOTE]Yeah you hate Sony. I've seen you rip Sony and PSP a lot in the PSP forum. If you're saying the PS3 was rushed and not the 360 (which was rushed just as much, due to all its technical problems), then you really are anti-Sony.
[quote name='furyk']He also has a PS3. If I remember correctly, Cheapy said Resistance was a pretty standard, good shooter. It doesn't redefine the genre, but it's still a solid title. When placed side to side with Gears, it's not as good a game.[/QUOTE]Most any action game is better than Gears of War, including FFVII: DoC. Resistance is one of the best FPS ever, and this is coming from someone who dislikes the genre.
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Do I own it? No. Have I played it for at least 4-5 hours? Yes. From what I played. The game? Not that special. Is the 4-5 hours enough to give a thorough impression of the game? Of course not. But was it enough to tell me how good the game is? Yes. And through those various game sessions, did I ever come away amazed? Not really. I mean I had fun, but if I ever called it a killer app, I'd probably want to get my head checked. The 9s and high 8s this game received from reviews is ridiculous if you ask me. Anything from the range of 7.5 to say 8.3 is more reasonable.[/QUOTE]I just think you're anti-Sony.

Anyway, the impressions are great and I can't wait to get it, in the future.
 
In the brief 2-3 hour coop mission session that I had at my friend's place the other night with Resistance, I did enjoy myself since I've never played coop fps before, but it is quite fun since we can actually work as a team and all.

But really other than that, I agree that I don't know if there's much else anybody can do with a fps title. Though we only got it to work at 480p on his tv (which unfortunately only does 480p and 1080i), I'm not sure if it's the blowaway game reviewers are making it out to be.

But yea don't get me wrong...for me who doesn't play a whole lot of fps games (actually the last game I really played was battlefield 1942...and...well I'm sure a lot of you know how old that game is), it seems just like any other fps game that I've seen.

But is it fun? Definitely.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Also Cheapy, if you had to give Motorstorm a score out of 10, what would it be?/[/quote]
I know you didn't ask me, but I'd say it's a 7.5
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Some of us have no one else to play games with. Bomberman for 360 had no local multi-player.

Yeah you hate Sony. I've seen you rip Sony and PSP a lot in the PSP forum. If you're saying the PS3 was rushed and not the 360 (which was rushed just as much, due to all its technical problems), then you really are anti-Sony.
Most any action game is better than Gears of War, including FFVII: DoC. Resistance is one of the best FPS ever, and this is coming from someone who dislikes the genre.
I just think you're anti-Sony.

Anyway, the impressions are great and I can't wait to get it, in the future.[/QUOTE]

Really? I'm anti-Sony because I didn't like one of their launch titles as much as everyone else? Even though I said I had fun playing it? Fling your fanboyism else where please dude.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Really? I'm anti-Sony because I didn't like one of their launch titles as much as everyone else? Even though I said I had fun playing it? Fling your fanboyism else where please dude.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my mistake.
 
I love how 360 discussion is a nice little place to talk about the games everyone are playing and what things they are doing on the console atm. But in the PS3 discussion its just the few people that have the PS3 defending from people saying they are peices of shit for getting it and how much they dislike it.
Isnt that sad? To be spending all your time in a forum, talking about something you dont like? All the time?

Get a life?

This is just a general statement. Not neccasarily regarding this thread.
 
Thanks for your review, CheapyD. I was interested in how this game turned out. I watched some videos and it sure looks pretty, but it sounds like the game itself is kinda shallow, eh?
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Do I own it? No. Have I played it for at least 4-5 hours? Yes. From what I played. The game? Not that special. Is the 4-5 hours enough to give a thorough impression of the game? Of course not. But was it enough to tell me how good the game is? Yes. And through those various game sessions, did I ever come away amazed? Not really. I mean I had fun, but if I ever called it a killer app, I'd probably want to get my head checked. The 9s and high 8s this game received from reviews is ridiculous if you ask me. Anything from the range of 7.5 to say 8.3 is more reasonable.[/quote]

I dunno, i really enjoyed this game, far more so then even Call of Duty of even Socom. The weps kept it interesting, level design was always solid and sometimes even fantastic and the frame rate and graphics remained stable. Gameplay didn't really atempt to be too innovative but a few new weps pulled that off (shooting through walls done right for the first time and track on shooting.) I enjoyed the story and the most important factor, i had fun. Sure this isnt a Halo or even half life 2 but we have a Good game here which earned it's 8.5 - 9.0 reviews (I would have given it a flat 9).

[quote name='icruise']Resistance is only a killer app compared to the rest of the PS3 lineup, which while not bad, is almost entirely available on the Xbox 360. But it's definitely a good game, and I've actually enjoyed it more than Gears of War. I just haven't gotten into GoW as much as some people seem to be.[/quote]

Gears of War seems to pick up half way through, or atleast it did for me. Online coop is pure gold with this game aswell, i loved it. Resistance was the best game at PS3 launch but to call it a killer app... i know the PS3 can do much better and Resistance 2 should be able to improve greatly, especially in graphics.


PS: To feel somewhat on topic, IGN agrees with Cheapy and Motorstorm;
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/751/751452p1.html
 
I have to agree withat a racing game with no multiplayer is ridiculous. It's too bad because this one sounds like it could be fun if they would put another 6 months or so into it.
 
First, all games should support custom soundtracks. With hard drives in both the PS3 and 360, custom soundtracks should be handled on the hardware level and made easy for the developer to implement.

The dissappointment that is Motorstorm is further reason for me to wait until quality PS3 games are released before buying the system.
 
[quote name='MadFlava']First, all games should support custom soundtracks. With hard drives in both the PS3 and 360, custom soundtracks should be handled on the hardware level and made easy for the developer to implement.
[/QUOTE]
I agree, and it's odd that the Wii and PS3 don't seem to get this. There's what, one game on the Wii that supports custom sound tracks? Any on the PS3?
 
[quote name='icruise']I agree, and it's odd that the Wii and PS3 don't seem to get this. There's what, one game on the Wii that supports custom sound tracks? Any on the PS3?[/quote]

Exite Truck supports it on the Wii (without it you would go insane within an hour from the horrible muzak). It is a nice feature that might take off on the Wii but their should be an integrated system like the xbox 360 has.
 
i wouldnt mind a ps3, but the blue ray absolutely kills it for me. It is just a piece of machinery waiting to break and fizzle out. Why do they rush games out the door. All that hard work and then they just rush it out. Mayby the second sequel will be the one.
 
[quote name='abhinav']Exite Truck supports it on the Wii (without it you would go insane within an hour from the horrible muzak).[/QUOTE]
That was the one game I was referring to.

[quote name='hupp']i wouldnt mind a ps3, but the blue ray absolutely kills it for me. It is just a piece of machinery waiting to break and fizzle out.[/QUOTE]
Are you suggesting that the Blu-ray drive is less reliable than a normal DVD drive?
 
Yes I think the blue ray is less reliable, and I think that the fact that it is built into the gaming system can help make things go wrong a lot easier. Playing dvds killed my original ps2.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Yeah you hate Sony. I've seen you rip Sony and PSP a lot in the PSP forum. If you're saying the PS3 was rushed and not the 360 (which was rushed just as much, due to all its technical problems), then you really are anti-Sony.[/quote]

What part of "I love my Playstation, Playstation 2, PS2 Slim and PSP" leads you to believe that I hate Sony? I must be missing something. Besides, who spends their time hating a company? What a waste of time and energy. I criticize on occasion because I just want better products and games but I criticize everyone (Microsoft pisses me off because the 360 is an unreliable piece of shit hardware-wise and don't get me started on Nintendo with their 480p max and online retardation - I love my 360 and Wii though).

For the record, the Xbox 360 launch was rushed but not nearly as much as the PS3 launch - they aren't even in the same ballpark. I guess having an opinion makes me anti-Sony.
 
Apparently there are only two choices.

Fanboy.
Anti-Something.

I suppose some have forgot about the people who just care about the games, not the people who make them.
 
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