[quote name='Capitalizt']lucky, I don't have the time to respond to all of your stuff..but I will address one of your bad assumptions. Let me ask you something. Can you name any commodity on earth that becomes LESS valuable as it's rarity increases? We tend to see the opposite in all cases. The fact that human life is rare, finite, and fleeting is precisely what gives it value. It becomes MORE valuable to us precisely because it will not last forever. If this were just some type of "rehearsal" in preparation for the main event (infinity), our existence here becomes infinitely devalued. On the other hand if this really is the one shot we get, every day spent living becomes priceless. Every good action that benefits humanity becomes much more praiseworthy, and every wicked action becomes much more intolerable. In the long run, we all die..this is true. One of the virtues of atheism is that we prefer to live in truth and accept the implications of living in a natural universe..even when they aren't particularly welcome. In other words...We may not like the idea that we will cease to exist one day, but given the fact that all evidence gathered to date indicates a physical brain is necessary for consciousness, we are willing to accept that when the brain dies, our consciousness ceases to be. If any evidence of spirits or "souls" is made available, we will reexamine that conclusion. Until then, the persistent belief in such things becomes no more than wishful thinking.
On the issue of "purpose".. I've never really understood this slavish mentality from theists..the idea that without a divine big brother guiding your life and imposing a purpose on you from above, everything you experience becomes meaningless. This makes no sense. The fact that purpose is not imposed on us does not mean we can't create our own purpose here and now. If you discovered tomorrow morning that Jesus never existed, would you suddenly not care if your close friends and family members were murdered? Would you suddenly lose interest in learning new things and in the recreational activities you enjoy? Would your loved ones become less important to you if you discovered that you wouldn't be with them forever?? If you honestly think about this for a moment, I think you will come to the opposite conclusion. As I said earlier, the fact that life doesn't last forever is precisely why you should treasure it. The fact that you've only got one shot to live, learn, and love means you better make the most of it now. You don't need a cosmic daddy to impose meaning on you. Carl Sagan said if you want your life to have meaning "do something meaningful".
P.S. As to your other points, I will simply direct you to the sites below. Every argument for god/gods has been thoroughly refuted (including your attempt at WLC's Kalam argument)...and there are several good arguments against the existence of such beings. Here ya go:
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I thought you were done? Anyway...
So for you first part you are essentially saying that we give ourselves value? That would be a subjective thought, some people think that other people have no value at all. You can't say they're wrong because right and wrong become a subjective thing like anything else that could be considered "moral". It also leads to a thing called speciesism. Why think that we are more valuable then say a California condor since they are almost extinct, and therefore there are more of us then them? Wouldn't that make them more valuable the us?
Because of sentience? Sentience is just a tool for survival, no different then a fin on a fish.
We make our own purpose? That sounds like superficial illusory to me. Sure you can say "My purpose in life is to become a doctor" but as I have said, in the end that means nothing because there will be nothing, there's no real point in doing it. You could say it is to help people, but why should one help someone? What obligation do they have to do so? It is neither good nor bad because that would be subjective in thought.
I love my friends and family endlessly now, and will love them even more when I see them again. I save every precious moment I can with friends and family today, and when they are gone I will be very sad, but even then I can rejoice, for I will see them again. But if they were here just for their life and then I would never see them again, sure I would love them endlessly, but once they're gone that's it, no seeing them again, and so I would be equally sad as I was happy before. I don't have to be, because I know that I will see them again after they die, so I can be happy even after they are gone. God doesn't impose meaning on me, He gives meaning to me and everything done. I have seen things that go beyond the realm of chance as proof before my eyes that there is a God, such things that effect my life and will forever. To do something "meaningful" when in the end it won't matter as I have said is just an illusion.
I looked through those websites and found it not to be up to the hype. For one the Moral argument still stands, without God there would be no objective moral values. Also the historicity of Jesus is still in play as well.
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