Club Nintendo Deals ~ New Games Up (11/17-12/14)

[MrNinjaSquirrel]

Any info for missing or inaccurate additions is very much appreciated; a big thanks to all that have contributed!
 

  
 
Current Promos
N/A

E-Shop Game Rewards
Spend coins to receive a download code redeemable through the Wii Virtual Console or 3DS E-Shop.
Current batch for November 17th-December 14th:

• Pilot Wings - 200
• Vegas Stakes - 200
• Clu Clu Land - 200
• Picturebook: Pop-Up Pursuit - 250
• Tokyo Crash Mobs- 200
•  Kirby's Pinball Land - 150
•  Metroid II: Return of Samus - 150
•  Starship Defense - 200

[customspoiler="What to do if you lose your code"]
If you lost the email you can still retrieve the code.
 
Go to your Club Nintendo account page and open the "Order Inquiries" tab. Find the order number for your download
Finally, go to this page: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/lookup/orders/lookupSupportOrder.do and fill in the form (choose "part", not "repair").
 
-Info courtesy of Teeg
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Past E-Shop and Virtual Console Games
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[customspoiler="October 2014"]
 Wrecking Crew - 200
 Kirby's Dream Course - 200
 Zoda's Revenge - 200
 Maboshi's Arcade - 200
 Kersploosh - 150
 Brain Age Express Math - 200
 3D Classics - Kid Icarus - 200
 Donkey Kong - 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="September 2014"]
Mario Bros. (Wii U) - 200
Super Punch-Out!! - 250
NES Play Action Football - 200
Super Mario Bros. - 200
The Legend of Zelda - 200
Touch Solitaire - 150
Art Style: PiCTOBiTS - 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="August 2014"]
 Super Mario Bros 2 - 200
 Excitebike - 200
 /    Star Fox 64 - 250
 /    Vegas Stakes  - 250
 Baseball - 150
 Puzzle League Express - 200
 Mario Golf - 200
 Dr. Mario™ Express - 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="July 2014"]
 Kid Icarus 3D Classic - 200
 Metal Torrent - 200
 Donkey Kong Jr. - 200
 /    Paper Mario - 250[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="June 2014"]
 Electroplankton Rec-Rec - 150
 Kirby's Dreamland - 150
 Kirby's Adventure - 200
 /   Mario Party 2 - 250[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="May 2014"]
 Super Metroid - 200
 /   Mario Kart 64 - 250
 Kirby's Adventure 3D classics - 200
 Brain Age: Arts & Letters - 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="April 2014"]
 Trajectile - 200
 Art Academy: First Semester - 200
 Super Mario World - 200
 /   Mario Golf - 250[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="March 2014"]
 Kid Icarus of Myths and Monsters - 150
 Number Battle - 200
 Yoshi - 200
 /   Bonsai Barber - 250[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="February 2014"]
 Donkey Kong Jr. - 150
 Art Style: PiCTOBiTS - 150
 Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream - 200
 Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="January 2014"]
 Game & Watch: Cement Factory - 100
 Spin Six - 150
 F-Zero  (Wii U version) - 200
 1080 Snowboarding (Wii Version) - 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="December 2013"]
 Super Mario 2 Lost Levels - 150
 Balloon Fight - 200
 Mario's Picross - 100
 Starship Defense - 150[/customspoiler] 
[customspoiler="November 2013"]
 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past ~ 150
 Art Style: Cubello ~ 150
 Metroid ~ 150 
 Dillon's Rolling Western ~ 200[/customspoiler] 
[customspoiler="October 2013"]
 Touch Solitaire ~ 100
 The Legend of Zelda ~ 150
 ThruSpace ~ 150
 Mario Kart (SNES) ~ 150[/customspoiler] 
[customspoiler="September 2013"]
 Art Academy: First Semester ~ 150
 Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again ~ 150
 Pilotwings ~ 150
 Zoda's Revenge: Star Tropics II ~ 150[/customspoiler] 
[customspoiler="August 2013"]
 Mario Golf ~ 150
 Brain Age Express: Sudoku ~ 150
 Wario's Woods ~ 150
 NES Play Action Football ~ 150[/customspoiler] 
[customspoiler="July 2013"]
Aura-Aura Climber ~ 100
Donkey Kong (Gameboy) ~ 100
Super Punch Out!! ~ 150
Star Fox 64 ~ 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="June 2013"]
Metroid II: Return of Samus ~ 150
Link 'n' Launch ~ 150
Super Mario Bros. 3 ~ 150
F-Zero X ~ 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="May 2013"]
3D Classics: Excitebike ~ 150
Art Style: Aquia ~ 100
Maboshi's Arcade ~ 150
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars ~ 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="April 2013"]
Kirby's Pinball Land ~ 150
3D Classics: Urban Champion ~ 150
Super Metroid ~ 150
Super Mario 64 ~ 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="March 2013"]
Super Punch Out! ~ 150
Mario Tennis 64 ~ 150
Starship Defense ~ 150
Kid Icarus 3D Classic ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="February 2013"]
Kirby Super Star ~150
Paper Mario 64 ~ 200
Metal Torrent ~ 150
Birds and Beans ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="January 2013"]
Snowpack Park ~ 150
Mario Kart 64 ~ 200
Tetris ~ 150
Punch Out!! featuring Mr. Dream ~ 200[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="December 2012"]
Mario Party 2 ~ 150
1080 ~ 150
3D Classics TwinBee ~150
Metroid II ~ 150
Brain Age Express: Sudoku ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="November 2012"]
ThruSpace ~ 150
Art Style Rotozoa ~ 100
Touch Solitaire ~ 100
Mario's Picross ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="October 2012"]
Super Punch Out!! ~ 150
Dr. Mario Online Rx ~ 100
Pro-Putt Domo ~ 100
3D Classics: Urban Champion ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="September 2012"]
Pop Up Pursuit ~ 150
Super Smash Bros. (N64) ~ 200
Bird and Beans ~ 100
Art Academy: First Semester ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="August 2012"]
Play Action Football ~ 100
Fluidity ~ 150
Tennis ~ 150
3D Classics: Excitebike ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="July 2012"]
Bonsai Barber ~ 150
Mario Tennis ~ 150
Golf ~ 150
Starship Defense ~ 150
Electroplankton ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="June 2012"]
Maboshi's Arcade ~ 150
Kirby Super Star ~ 150
Brain Age Express: Sudoku ~ 150
Donkey Kong Mayhem (100 levels) ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="May 2012"]
Eco Shooter: Plant 530 ~ 200
Snowpack Park ~ 150
3D Classics: Urban Champion ~ 150
ArtStyle: Pictobits ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="April 2012"]
Excitebike World Rally ~ 200
You, Me, and the Cubes ~ 200
Metal Torrent ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="March 2012"]
Art Style: Cubello ~ 100
Radar Mission ~ 100
Mario's Picross ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="February 2012"]
Mario Party 2 ~ 150
Art Academy First Semester ~ 150[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="January 2012"]
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask ~ 150
Dr. Mario Online ~ 100
Dr. Mario Express ~ 150
Kirby's Dreamland (Gameboy) ~ 100[/customspoiler]
[customspoiler="December 2011"]
Fluidity ~ 150
Super Mario Kart ~ 100
Mario vs. Donkey Kong Minis March Again ~ 150
3D Classics: Xevious ~ 100[/customspoiler][/customspoiler]
 
Intend to Buy Surveys
Receive +10 bonus coins when you register these games in future.
Hello Kitty & Sanrio Friends, Racing - expires Nov 4
Sonic Boom -  expires Nov 4
Tetris Ultimate -  expires Nov 4
Disney Planes, Fire & Rescue - expires Oct 28

Winx Club, Saving Alfea - expires Oct 21
Bayonetta 2 - expires Oct 17
Fantasy Life - expires Oct 17

Pokémon Art Academy -  expires Oct 17
Harvest Moon, The Lost Valley - expires Oct 14



New Release Surveys
Receive +10 bonus coins by filling out these bonus surveys within four weeks of a game's launch.
Super Smash Bros. - expires Nov 2
Hyrule Warriors - expires Oct 26
Cooking Mama 5: Bon Appétit! - expires Oct 16
THEATRHYTHM FINAL FANTASY CURTAIN CALL - expires Oct 16

Gold and Platinum Rewards
Reward are announced after the Club Nintendo year ends on June 30th for those that reach Gold or Platinum status.
 
2014 Platinum Rewards

• Game & Wario
• NES Remix
• EarthBound
• Dr. Luigi
• Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D
• Fluidity: Spin Cycle
• Dillon's Rolling Western
• Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move

2014 Gold Rewards

• Ice Climber
• Kid Icarus
• Super Mario Bros. 
• Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
• Donkey Kong 3
• Wario Land 2
• Metroid
• Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins

Gold Rewards
[customspoiler="Previous Years"]

• 2013 - Nintendo Calender OR Free Downloadable Game. Options included:Super Smash Bros. (Wii Virtual Console)
• Warioware D.I.Y. Showcase (WiiWare)
• The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (3DS Virtual Console)
• Super Mario Land (3DS Virtual Console)
• Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword (3DS E-Shop)

[*]2012- Nintendo Calender OR Free Downloadable Game. Options included:

• Super Mario Kart
• Metroid II: Return of Samus
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again
• The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

[*]2009-2011 - Nintendo Calender
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Platinum Rewards
[customspoiler="Previous Years"]

• 2013 - Choice of one of the following:Three Poster Set (Zelda, Luigi, and Pikmin)
• Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask OST

[*]2012 - Club Nintendo Poster Set OR Platinum Playing Cards
[*]2011 - Mario & Friends Pin Badge Collection
[*]​2010 - Club Nintendo Figurine (Came in "?" Block Box)
[*]2009 - Doc Louis's Punch-Out!! OR Club Nintendo Mario Plush Hat
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[customspoiler=Basic FAQ]
-Basic Info/Overview
For those that don't know Club Nintendo is Nintendo's loyalty program of sorts. When you buy a Nintendo Console/Handheld, or a Nintendo published game, you get a pin that you can enter online to earn points. These points can then be redeemed for games, accesories, and collectable items. If you earn enough points in a Club year (300 for gold and 600 for platinum, which each have their own reward), you also receive a free bonus only available to a select few. You can read the full list of eligible titles, as well as their point value, here.

-How do I get coins for digital purchases?
In order to earn coins on any digital games you purchase on Wii/WiiU/3DS/DSi, you will first need to link you Club Nintendo account to your system. Instruction for doing so can be found here.

-Can I play the Wii games on my Wii-U?
Yes, but as of now, only in Wii mode. Native Wii U support might be added later on, but will most likely require the typical $1-$1.50 fee to transfer over.

-How do I play Wii games on Wii U
You will need to enter Wii mode on your Wii U. Instructions on doing so can be found http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/wiiu/en_na/features_wii_menu.jsp?menu=wii_shop&submenu=wup-wiishop-ht-redeem-code"]here[/url].

- If I don't spend coins for the entire year long period, do they carry over?
Yes, you can keep your coins past the Club Nintendo year they are redeemed in. However they only count toward gold or platinum status for the Nintendo year (june 31st-july 1st) they are redeemed in. After two years old points do expire, so make sure to spend them before then. You can check Coin balance information while, logged in, at the top of the page.

- Is there a list of previous rewards for people who accumulated a lot of coins? Similar to Square Enix's Ultimate Tier?
The extra rewards for Club Nintendo are for those that accumulate enough points to hit Gold or Platinum status (300 and 600 points, respectively). If you reach the required number of points in a year, Nintendo will automatically send you your reward, with no cost to you or your points.

- Does the list of eligible games update as the games come out or on some sort of schedule?
The list will be updated before the game comes out, do to things like Pre-Purchase bonus points. Any game you can buy, should already be on the list and able to redeem.

- When do they typically announce the prizes for Gold and Platinum?
Generally at the end of a Club Nintendo year, but don't expect it anytime soon. Usually it will take at least several months for them to ship it out.

- Is there anyway to enter multiple copies of the same game or device?
They have an option in the settings to make your account a family account, which means it can have sub-accounts that allows you to register multiple copies of games. The coins from all the sub-accounts all end up in the same main account coin collection.

- How does the site show what balance of coins you have to spend versus your total towards Gold/Platinum?
At the top right of the screen you can see the coin counter. The big number is your total coin amount, and the bar underneath is your progress to gold or platinum status. The number needed to advance is displayed directly above said bar. Redeeming your coins does not affect this counter, as it is only reset at the end of the year.

- How can I tell if a code is valid without redeeming it?
If you want to check if a code has already been registered, without registering it yourself, all you need to do is try entering the code while you are logged out. It will tell you the name of the game, as well as how many points it is worth, without activating it.[/customspoiler]

Let me know if I missed anything or if something breaks!

 

[admiralvic]

You know what's odd about Club Nintendo's pricing of games? I couldn't put my finger on it until now. They base how many coins something costs on the platform it came from rather than the platform you're buying for.

Why do people try to figure out these elaborate theories to explain very simple things?

Since I don't care enough to boot up my Wii or Wii U to verify it, Wikipedia says Mario Golf costs 1,000 points or $10 and Super Mario World costs $7.99 according to Kotaku. Since Mario Golf costs 250, we can divide that by 10 and get a price of roughly 25 coins per 1 dollar. 25 x 8 is oh gee, look at that, 200 coins or the cost of Super Mario World... yeah, it really is that logical and simple.

 

[Blaster man]

Why do people try to figure out these elaborate theories to explain very simple things?

Since I don't care enough to boot up my Wii or Wii U to verify it, Wikipedia says Mario Golf costs 1,000 points or $10 and Super Mario World costs $7.99 according to Kotaku. Since Mario Golf costs 250, we can divide that by 10 and get a price of roughly 25 coins per 1 dollar. 25 x 8 is oh gee, look at that, 200 coins or the cost of Super Mario World... yeah, it really is that logical and simple.

So let me get this straight...

250 coins = $10 = 25 coins per dollar

200 coins = $8 = 25 coins per dollar

Then when they release the game on Wii U you get to spend $1.50 (or more likely $2.00 for N64) in ADDITION to the $10 worth of coins making the total $11.50 (or $12.00).

DOES NOT COMPUTE

 

[amusedtoe]

 

[admiralvic]

Sums it up perfectly.

 

[Blaster man]

I get what he's saying, I just don't think it makes sense to price them the way they're priced.

 

[amusedtoe]

I get what he's saying, I just don't think it makes sense to price them the way they're priced.

The point is that it's Nintendo and the way they price all this stuff is rigid and divorced from the modern economies that their competitors have established.

 

[Blaster man]

The point is that it's Nintendo and the way they price all this stuff is rigid and divorced from the modern economies that their competitors have established.

Yes, but I got Dr. Mario (which I'll never play) and that gave me a discount of $5 towards Dr. Luigi (that I'll rarely play)! That's good!

 

[admiralvic]

I get what he's saying, I just don't think it makes sense to price them the way they're priced.

How so? On one hand you have Super Mario World, which costs less and works on one platform. On the other hand, you have a Mario Golf, which costs more money and works on two platforms by default. For whatever reason, you seem to believe the more expensive and flexible game should be cheaper because of a hypothetical upgrade charge that isn't even factored in the coin values in the first place and is completely unnecessary unless you want to use Wii U accessories / not boot it in Wii mode.

 

[Blaster man]

How so? On one hand you have Super Mario World, which costs less and works on one platform. On the other hand, you have a Mario Golf, which costs more money and works on two platforms by default. For whatever reason, you seem to believe the more expensive and flexible game should be cheaper because of a hypothetical upgrade charge that isn't even factored in the coin values in the first place and is completely unnecessary unless you want to use Wii U accessories / not boot it in Wii mode.

brb I have to go play my PS1 discs on my PS3. You know, those are PS3 games now since they run on a PS3. They should reprint the PS1 games and sell those discs for $60 because they run on two systems and sell the PS3 uprez version for $40 because they only run on one system. THAT MAKES SENSE.

 

[admiralvic]

brb I have to go play my PS1 discs on my PS3. You know, those are PS3 games now since they run on a PS3. They should reprint the PS1 games and sell those discs for $60 because they run on two systems and sell the PS3 uprez version for $40 because they only run on one system. THAT MAKES SENSE.

Sigh~ I knew giving you the time of day was a bad choice, but whatever. Have fun being confused by very simple things I guess?

 

[dmaul1114]

The point is that it's Nintendo and the way they price all this stuff is rigid and divorced from the modern economies that their competitors have established.

Yeah, at this point people should just accept that Nintendo is ran by morons. And worse morons that got cocky by the dumb shit luck fluke that was the Wii and thought they could keep doing everything ass backwards and still sell big numbers. Crappy online structure, no account system despite promoting digital games and the VC a ton, a half assed rewards program with odd pricing, first party games that rarely drop in price. They're just incredibly consumer unfriendly and behind the times. You either put up with it because you love their games or you don't. I'm falling more and more into the later category as I'm getting tired of the games, and thus not willing to put up with all their backwardness or buy their underpowered hardware etc. anymore. I still have a 3DS, but I really can't see what they'd do to ever get me to buy another piece of their hardware. I'd rather see them fail and go third party or sell off their IPs personally.

 

[MetalSlugger]

Yeah, at this point people should just accept that Nintendo is ran by morons. And worse morons that got cocky by the dumb shit luck fluke that was the Wii and thought they could keep doing everything ass backwards and still sell big numbers. Crappy online structure, no account system despite promoting digital games and the VC a ton, a half assed rewards program with odd pricing, first party games that rarely drop in price. They're just incredibly consumer unfriendly and behind the times. You either put up with it because you love their games or you don't. I'm falling more and more into the later category as I'm getting tired of the games, and thus not willing to put up with all their backwardness or buy their underpowered hardware etc. anymore. I still have a 3DS, but I really can't see what they'd do to ever get me to buy another piece of their hardware. I'd rather see them fail and go third party or sell off their IPs personally.

Yeah, they should really get with the times and emulate Sony or Microsoft.

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

Yeah, they should really get with the times and emulate Sony or Microsoft.

Hehe.

Seriously though, I'm kinda sad for Sony. Don't love their game systems but I do love their TVs XD
And as for Microsoft, reading that made my day a bit better. I'm so pissed at them ever since I downloaded an update that wiped EVERYTHING from my 360 console (profile, game saves, gamer points, games). Can't play a single game now.

 

[whodoneit]

Yeah, they should really get with the times and emulate Sony or Microsoft.

To be fair sony & ms are more than videogame companies. Nintendo is losing a ton too and they only do games. They do need to get with the times.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-nintendo-earnings-idUSBREA0G09M20140117

 

[drolan]

I can't believe there was such a long discussion deliberating the pricing structure of Nintendo's eshop/coin games.  Heres some simple logic: If you like the game, buy it.  If you don't like it, dont.  Whether it "computes" or not, Nintendo has their pricing structure set and expects you to adhere to it should you want to enjoy what they have to offer. $12.00 may seem high for an N64 game but if you dont own an N64 anymore you get to play it on your Wii U pain-free.  Be thankful that option is available without having to go hunt down garage sales or illegally modding your Wii to play emulators for free.

 

[UlysisAM]

I laugh when people try to apply "logic" to things Nintendo does that piss them off.

I've found a simple answer to all your burning questions.

Why does Nintendo do this? Why does Nintendo do that?

Answer?

Because Nintendo.

That's all that needs to be said.

Because Nintendo...

 

[BobbyTastic]

Don't love their game systems but I do love their TVs XD

Their TVs are just rebranded LG panels sold for more because of the Sony name on them (a Sony tax, if you will). They're junk, they don't have the quality they used to have because that original quality made them get arrogant enough to charge some of the highest prices of all TV manufacturers, and surprise surprise, no one's buying. Their TV division is one of their biggest black holes for their money (which is relevant to the article linked), so yeah, I'm surprised to hear someone say that.

To be fair sony & ms are more than videogame companies. Nintendo is losing a ton too and they only do games. They do need to get with the times.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/17/us-nintendo-earnings-idUSBREA0G09M20140117

Well, you're right, if you're talking about MS. They're hurting some from Windows 8 and Surface (on top of the Xbox division, but the Xbox division has always been a loss-leader, as it serves a bigger purpose than just a video game division, think of all that "Power of the Cloud" stuff from last year), but they're too big a behemoth to be going anywhere any time soon. They're doing surprisingly well overall. As for Sony... well, that's a different story. Their video game division is doing good enough for itself (despite their profits being razor-thin per PS4 customer), but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the bleeding the rest of the corporation is doing. Laptops was a huge black hole, now it's gone, TV is a huge black hole, but last I heard it was spun-off into a wholly owned IPO (making it easier to sell, but they're still losing the same amount of money on it), and pictures/music isn't in the best shape (think Smurfs 2). The only real profiting areas they have are their big one (insurance), and video games, and video games just doesn't bring in the money 'till software sales ramp up more than hardware sales later on in a console's lifecycle.

 

[whodoneit]

Their TVs are just rebranded LG panels sold for more because of the Sony name on them (a Sony tax, if you will). They're junk, they don't have the quality they used to have because that original quality made them get arrogant enough to charge some of the highest prices of all TV manufacturers, and surprise surprise, no one's buying. Their TV division is one of their biggest black holes for their money (which is relevant to the article linked), so yeah, I'm surprised to hear someone say that.

Well, you're right, if you're talking about MS. They're hurting some from Windows 8 and Surface (on top of the Xbox division, but the Xbox division has always been a loss-leader, as it serves a bigger purpose than just a video game division, think of all that "Power of the Cloud" stuff from last year), but they're too big a behemoth to be going anywhere any time soon. They're doing surprisingly well overall. As for Sony... well, that's a different story. Their video game division is doing good enough for itself (despite their profits being razor-thin per PS4 customer), but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the bleeding the rest of the corporation is doing. Laptops was a huge black hole, now it's gone, TV is a huge black hole, but last I heard it was spun-off into a wholly owned IPO (making it easier to sell, but they're still losing the same amount of money on it), and pictures/music isn't in the best shape (think Smurfs 2). The only real profiting areas they have are their big one (insurance), and video games, and video games just doesn't bring in the money 'till software sales ramp up more than hardware sales later on in a console's lifecycle.

That was my point. The other two are losing money from poor sales from other things within the company. Nintendo is losing money from poor sales of games (wii u) because its all they do.

 

[BobbyTastic]

That was my point. The other two are losing money from poor sales from other things within the company. Nintendo is losing money from poor sales of games (wii u) because its all they do.

Damn, I knew I forgot to post something. The reason why Nintendo is posting a loss this year is because they've recently bought several buildings, including a new HQ for their first-party developer, Intelligent Systems, as well as going on a hiring spree. Not to mention their new endeavour into Quality-of-Life products, and the shares they've recently bought back from the Yamauchi family. Basically, unlike the article paints, they're in okay shape (doomsaying is popular clickbait) financially, enough to be expanding. At the very worst, they have a warchest on-hand (as a precaution against a hostile takeover) that has them not going anywhere anytime soon.

In addition, it's not that the games are selling poorly, it's the hardware that's selling poorly. The attach rate on the Wii U is very healthy (compared to the Xbone and the PS4), specifically in relation to first-party titles. It's just that there aren't enough people who own a Wii U to have Wii-level blockbuster numbers. W101 sold like crap though, which is a shame. Most likely a combination of low install base/new IP/released the same week as GTA 5/not a first-party title. But in comparison, Sonic Lost World sold very well (as did Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze and 3D World).

 

[Blaster man]

Damn, I knew I forgot to post something. The reason why Nintendo is posting a loss this year is because they've recently bought several buildings, including a new HQ for their first-party developer, Intelligent Systems, as well as going on a hiring spree. Not to mention their new endeavour into Quality-of-Life products, and the shares they've recently bought back from the Yamauchi family. Basically, unlike the article paints, they're in okay shape (doomsaying is popular clickbait) financially, enough to be expanding. At the very worst, they have a warchest on-hand (as a precaution against a hostile takeover) that has them not going anywhere anytime soon.

In addition, it's not that the games are selling poorly, it's the hardware that's selling poorly. The attach rate on the Wii U is very healthy (compared to the Xbone and the PS4), specifically in relation to first-party titles. It's just that there aren't enough people who own a Wii U to have Wii-level blockbuster numbers. W101 sold like crap though, which is a shame. Most likely a combination of low install base/new IP/released the same week as GTA 5/not a first-party title. But in comparison, Sonic Lost World sold very well (as did Pikmin 3, Tropical Freeze and 3D World).

This is not at all correct, they're posting operating losses and it has nothing to do with building purchases. They're losing money on their business.

Cash spend is not included in those losses. 18 months ago Nintendo had 10.5 billion cash on hand. Now they've got 7.4. They spent through 3.5 billion dollars in 1.5 years. Company losses have not been this large, this was spending. Including 1.2 billion on a pointless stock buy back. The building was not part of the operating loss.

Additionally, losses tend to snowball as failing businesses do worse year over year. The WIi U eats through all the money that the 3DS "prints" and then some. Have you even looked at their financial reports are you are just parroting what you read on fan forums? When I use the term "failing business" I'm referring to their home console business, not their business in general. Nintendo won't go bankrupt but there's a better than even chance that the Wii U will be discontinued and no new home consoles made since they are not competitive.

 

[BobbyTastic]

This is not at all correct, they're posting operating losses and it has nothing to do with building purchases. They're losing money on their business.

Cash spend is not included in those losses. 18 months ago Nintendo had 10.5 billion cash on hand. Now they've got 7.4. They spent through 3.5 billion dollars in 1.5 years. Company losses have not been this large, this was spending. Including 1.2 billion on a pointless stock buy back. The building was not part of the operating loss.

Additionally, losses tend to snowball as failing businesses do worse year over year. The WIi U eats through all the money that the 3DS "prints" and then some. Have you even looked at their financial reports are you are just parroting what you read on fan forums?

Our definitions of "pointless" differ, apparently. I am by no means claiming to be an expert on the specifics. I am just noting that there have been several expansions made lately. And no, I read "gaming news". I'm not sure where in my post you found anything that would be said on a "fan forum". It's my own belief that they are "okay", not good, not great. I even said that the hardware is selling poorly (the Wii U, the 3DS is doing okay, not a blockbuster hit like the DS, but that's a given). They need to fix things, but they aren't doomed. As nonsensical as Nintendo can be, they aren't stupid enough to be buying buildings and recruiting new hires to Retro and IS if they were really bleeding that badly. They weathered the Gamecube, and they'll weather the Wii U with how well the DS/Wii did just like Sony weathered the PS3 with the PS2. If their next home console is a dud though, well... that's another story.

One could argue that if not for the cash spent on those things, it could have been spent towards addressing the problem of the Wii U. I think they have their priorities a little out of whack, especially with the lack of marketing in America (aside from the stock buyback, which I still don't think was pointless).

 

[Blaster man]

Our definitions of "pointless" differ, apparently. I am by no means claiming to be an expert on the specifics. I am just noting that there have been several expansions made lately. And no, I read "gaming news". I'm not sure where in my post you found anything that would be said on a "fan forum". It's my own belief that they are "okay", not good, not great. I even said that the hardware is selling poorly (the Wii U, the 3DS is doing okay, not a blockbuster hit like the DS, but that's a given). They need to fix things, but they aren't doomed. As nonsensical as Nintendo can be, they aren't stupid enough to be buying buildings and recruiting new hires to Retro and IS if they were really bleeding that badly. They weathered the Gamecube, and they'll weather the Wii U with how well the DS/Wii did just like Sony weathered the PS3 with the PS2. If their next home console is a dud though, well... that's another story.

One could argue that if not for the cash spent on those things, it could have been spent towards addressing the problem of the Wii U. I think they have their priorities a little out of whack, especially with the lack of marketing in America (aside from the stock buyback, which I still don't think was pointless).

The only reason for a stock buyback is to increase the share value for your shareholders. That does nothing for the underlying business and is thus "pointless". If you have a business worth 1 million dollars and you have 1 million shares, each share is worth 1 dollar. If you buyback 500,000 shares for $500,000 then the remaining shares are now worth $2 each. This doesn't help the business. There's only 2 reasons for this type of share buyback. The first is to "return capital to the investor" because the business has more cash than they can use (like Apple that has over 150 billion in cash) or to increase the share price to keep investors from revolting for a while so you can buy time to search for some way to save your business. They sure as hell didn't do the stock buyback because there was nothing else they can spend the money on. It's obvious they need more development based on the paltry release schedule.

The idea that "weathering" a device that was an extremely modest success is at all the same as "weathering" a device that's a massive failure is nonsense. This goes back to those fan sites where they say stupid things like, "oh it's been around for 100 years so it's never going to be in trouble!". Nokia was around even longer and 10 years ago was on top of the world. BlackBerry $BBRY (formerly $RIMM) was in ever better shape just 10 years ago. Nintendo isn't going bankrupt but it's foolish to assume that they're going to keep going on the path that they've been on. The Wii U is looking to have an install base of around 9 million by the end of 2014. By the end of it's life it will probably only be 15 million - that's a 25% decline from the GameCube. Every generation outside of the Wii has seen a 25% decline in hardware sales from the one before.

 

[BobbyTastic]

The only reason for a stock buyback is to increase the share value for your shareholders. That does nothing for the underlying business and is thus "pointless". If you have a business worth 1 million dollars and you have 1 million shares, each share is worth 1 dollar. If you buyback 500,000 shares for $500,000 then the remaining shares are now worth $2 each. This doesn't help the business. There's only 2 reasons for this type of share buyback. The first is to "return capital to the investor" because the business has more cash than they can use (like Apple that has over 150 billion in cash) or to increase the share price to keep investors from revolting for a while so you can buy time to search for some way to save your business. They sure as hell didn't do the stock buyback because there was nothing else they can spend the money on. It's obvious they need more development based on the paltry release schedule.

The idea that "weathering" a device that was an extremely modest success is at all the same as "weathering" a device that's a massive failure is nonsense. This goes back to those fan sites where they say stupid things like, "oh it's been around for 100 years so it's never going to be in trouble!". Nokia was around even longer and 10 years ago was on top of the world. BlackBerry $BBRY (formerly $RIMM) was in ever better shape just 10 years ago. Nintendo isn't going bankrupt but it's foolish to assume that they're going to keep going on the path that they've been on. The Wii U is looking to have an install base of around 9 million by the end of 2014. By the end of it's life it will probably only be 15 million - that's a 25% decline from the GameCube. Every generation outside of the Wii has seen a 25% decline in hardware sales from the one before.

Exactly. That's why it's not "pointless". It was a damage control move because the Yamauichi family wanted to get rid of their shares. If Nintendo didn't buy them, they would have sold to someone else, and you should know how paranoid Nintendo is about that kind of stuff. The release schedule is paltry, but only for the Wii U, because until recently Nintendo was focused on revitalizing the mess that the 3DS turned into. Unlike Microsoft, they're split between developing for two platforms, and unlike Sony, they'd rather not leave one of them to die (Vita). If you notice, the release schedule for 2014 for the 3DS is much more sparse than 2013's. Why? Because they've since shifted their dev teams to Wii U titles (as the 3DS ones have been in the oven since 2011 - 2012). Expect the next year or two to get better for the Wii U, as the titles don't just pop up over night (a good dev cycle takes about 1 - 2 years, the Wii U has only been out a little longer than 1). With any other console, the third-party titles would fill the gap, but due to the small install base, third-parties aren't bothering. Which means the install-base growth depends on first-party development and Nintendo can't be everywhere at once.

So a 25% decline turns it from a modest success to a massive failure? That's hyperbole and you know it. I am not denying the Wii U is a bigger failure than the Gamecube, but they're coming off the back one of their most successful handheld and home console (and the 3DS is in decent shape). The Gamecube came right after the 64. I would say they are in a better position now to take a failure than they were then. They need to get their shit together, no doubt, because they can't have another failure after the Wii U. Which is what I said. They will weather it. I am not sure either way if they will release another home console or not, this was always about their financial state as of now, which is "okay". I don't think they're going to be around because they've been around for 100 years (never said anything of the sort). I mean, look at Sony. Just another example of a powerhouse zaibatsu in deep shit (much like Nokia, as you said). A lot of old Japanese corps have had this sort of trouble lately of needing to adapt to the current economic climate. Those who don't have gone the way of the dodo.

 

[Blaster man]

So a 25% decline turns it from a modest success to a massive failure? That's hyperbole and you know it. I am not denying the Wii U is a bigger failure than the Gamecube, but they're coming off the back one of their most successful handheld and home console (and the 3DS is in decent shape). The Gamecube came right after the 64. I would say they are in a better position now to take a failure than they were then. They need to get their shit together, no doubt, because they can't have another failure after the Wii U. Which is what I said. They will weather it. I am not sure either way if they will release another home console or not, this was always about their financial state as of now, which is "okay". I don't think they're going to be around because they've been around for 100 years (never said anything of the sort). I mean, look at Sony. Just another example of a powerhouse zaibatsu in deep shit (much like Nokia, as you said). A lot of old Japanese corps have had this sort of trouble lately of needing to adapt to the current economic climate. Those who don't have gone the way of the dodo.

A decline in sales is a failure yes. The Wii U is a massive failure because it's generating losses. It's not simply a matter of not doing well, it's a business FAILURE. To suggest that it's not a failure when it's single handily destroying all the profits generated on the 3DS + more is ignoring the facts. How can that not be considered a failure? The GameCube was not a failure, it was an extremely modest success. Nintendo, over the course of it's 100+ year history, never had a year where they took a loss until 2 years ago. Now they've had 2 consecutive years of losses and this will be their 3rd. The Wii U is causing this and is a massive failure both in the business sense and as a consumer product in general really.

As for the 100+ years means it's not going out of business, you never stated that but I've read others state really dumb comments like that. Here's a fact for you: Every business will eventually go bankrupt given enough time. Fact.

I'm fairly confident that Nintendo won't go out of business. They will probably move to handhelds only and possibly go 3rd party on Sony's console for some games, especially ports of old games that won't require a lot of work. Their home console is not competitive with the services of the other two and is losing popularity with each successive generation. They might have 1 more home console in them and if it fails then that will be it but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they stuck with 3DS because those games are much cheaper to make.

 

[MetalSlugger]

can I buy Nintendo stock with CN coinz

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

Their TVs are just rebranded LG panels sold for more because of the Sony name on them (a Sony tax, if you will). They're junk, they don't have the quality they used to have because that original quality made them get arrogant enough to charge some of the highest prices of all TV manufacturers, and surprise surprise, no one's buying. Their TV division is one of their biggest black holes for their money (which is relevant to the article linked), so yeah, I'm surprised to hear someone say that.

I apologize for not being more specific: I don't own an flatscreen HD TV. Don't really like HD. Can't afford it even if I did. My old pre-digital ones work for what i want them to. I have two old fat back SONY TVs. So when I said I like their TVs, I actually meant their old ones.

Didn't know about the LGs in newer TVs though, but that doesn't surprise me considering how the playstation came about.

Nintendo is losing money from poor sales of games (wii u) because its all they do.

I don't have much to contribute to this conversation, but video games are what they PRIMARILY do. It is not all they do.
They have two stores in two different countries selling video game merchandise. Figures, t-shirts, toys, collectible statues, plushes, ect... Nintendo probably has the biggest & most diverse line of video game merch (probably due to their trading card roots). Plus, all that merch isn't entirely limited to online buying or their stores. At one point, they even had a Pokemon theme park and they also own an american baseball team. I'm not saying all that brings in as much revenue as their games or the other things Sony & Microsoft deal in but it does deserve to be noted & specified since you said it twice. Fact is Microsoft deals primarily in computers & happened to have success with a console line. Same for SONY, but with general electronics.

It's like saying all apple does is make computers when they actually make new i-junk every year & once ventured into video gaming.

 

[RiceQuakes]

Nintendo has a buttload in their reserve. Nintendo has £6.7 ($10.5) billion in the bank and, even if making big losses every year, that would keep the company going until 2052.

Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank – enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there’s almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out – we’re in the year 2075 by this point – they’ve got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business.

 

[whodoneit]

I don't have much to contribute to this conversation, but video games are what they PRIMARILY do. It is not all they do.
They have two stores in two different countries selling video game merchandise. Figures, t-shirts, toys, collectible statues, plushes, ect... Nintendo probably has the biggest & most diverse line of video game merch (probably due to their trading card roots). Plus, all that merch isn't entirely limited to online buying or their stores. At one point, they even had a Pokemon theme park and they also own an american baseball team. I'm not saying all that brings in as much revenue as their games or the other things Sony & Microsoft deal in but it does deserve to be noted & specified since you said it twice. Fact is Microsoft deals primarily in computers & happened to have success with a console line. Same for SONY, but with general electronics.

It's like saying all apple does is make computers when they actually make new i-junk every year & once ventured into video gaming.

The difference is apple makes the i pads, iphones ect... Nintendo doesnt make the figures, tshirts, toys, statues, plushes ect. They license their brands & other companies make them and sell them. Big difference. Go to any wally world or large retailer and pick up some nintendo merch it wont say made by nintendo. I get what youre saying though.

 

[Blaster man]

Nintendo has a buttload in their reserve. Nintendo has £6.7 ($10.5) billion in the bank and, even if making big losses every year, that would keep the company going until 2052.

Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank – enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there’s almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out – we’re in the year 2075 by this point – they’ve got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business.

No. That was 1.5 years ago, check your article date. They are down to 7.4 billion. Theyspent down 3.1 billion dollars in 18 months. At that spend rate they don't have until 2052 before they run out of cash, they'll be out of cash and bankrupt in 3.5 years from now. Really dumb way to do a calculation as shown by the fact that the article's author was so wrong just 18 months later.

Nintendo is not going bankrupt but they aren't going to continue losing money. Even if they could lose money until 2052 (they can't obviously), that's now how a business is run and as such the article is idiotic.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-04/nintendo-completes-buyback-as-founding-family-to-sell-shares.html

"Nintendo, which had about $8.6 billion of cash and equivalents and zero debt as of Sept. 30..."

Subsequently they've spent 1.2 billion on stock buybacks which results in 7.4 billion. After they do their financials next month it will probably be even lower.

 

[whodoneit]

double post. slow computer.

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

The difference is apple makes the i pads, iphones ect... Nintendo doesnt make the figures, tshirts, toys, statues, plushes ect. They license their brands & other companies make them and sell them. Big difference. Go to any wally world or large retailer and pick up some nintendo merch it wont say made by nintendo.

I did suspect this, & after checking a few of my nintendo items there are more licensed ones than officially made by Nintendo.
Still, the merch side of their company should be included in what they do. If we are to include Sony's other electronic divisions as a part of what they do, why not Nintendo for licensing?
A quick search revealed that TVs aren't the only things Sony has rebranded. They've also rebranded Phones, cameras, & speakers. If what we include when talking about Sony as a whole is really just Playstation & buying things others made then rebranding them as their own, why not also include licensing?

 

[whodoneit]

I did suspect this, & after checking a few of my nintendo items there are more licensed ones than officially made by Nintendo.
Still, the merch side of their company should be included in what they do. If we are to include Sony's other electronic divisions as a part of what they do, why not Nintendo for licensing?
A quick search revealed that TVs aren't the only things Sony has rebranded. They've also rebranded Phones, cameras, & speakers. If what we include when talking about Sony as a whole is really just Playstation & buying things others made then rebranding them as their own, why not also include licensing?

Sony buying another company and rebranding the products is way different than licensing. Sony owns that company and all the products. Nintendo doesnt own walmart, target, spencers, best buy ect... where their licensed material is sold. Hell to go another step nintendo doesnt own the warehouses where that licensed merch was made. Also I dont think anyone ever said "sony as whole is just really just playstation". That doesnt add up. But yeah nintendo also does licensing I never bring it up because thats a givin for any company. I wonder how much they get from it and if it's a meaningful factor in their profits. They never talk about their merchendising in profit meetings it seems.

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

Sony buying another company and rebranding the products is way different than licensing. Sony owns that company and all the products. Nintendo doesnt own walmart, target, spencers, best buy ect... where their licensed material is sold. Hell to go another step nintendo doesnt own the warehouses where that licensed merch was made. Also I dont think anyone ever said "sony as whole is just really just playstation". That doesnt add up. But yeah nintendo also does licensing I never bring it up because thats a givin for any company. I wonder how much they get from it and if it's a meaningful factor in their profits. They never talk about their merchendising in profit meetings it seems.

If we are to ignore Nintendo World & Pokemon Center while also excluding the few Sony & Microsoft stores strewn about, neither Sony of microsoft own the stores they are selling their merch at (i.e., every store you just mentioned). Thus I don't see how one can use that as an arguing point.
Same with the warehouses, I'm pretty sure even Nintendo does (I know Microsoft & Sony) outsource their console production to warehouses they do not own.
And as for "Sony is just playstation", that is misinterpretation of my words. I never meant that anybody implied this.

I see what you are trying to say about Sony owning these rebranded products though. I just think, when considering Nintendo licenses more than the other two it should be considered. I guess that is just my opinion.
I also wonder how much revenue they make. Especially when I see pikachus, marios, ect... at fairs as prizes.

 

[Deader2818]

Everyone stop. This has gotten way off topic. Take it to the proper forums. I know this thread isn't active but that doesn't make it right to throw it way off topic.

 

[pitfallharry219]

Everyone stop. This has gotten way off topic. Take it to the proper forums. I know this thread isn't active but that doesn't make it right to throw it way off topic.

Reported for making sense.

 

[whodoneit]

If we are to ignore Nintendo World & Pokemon Center while also excluding the few Sony & Microsoft stores strewn about, neither Sony of microsoft own the stores they are selling their merch at (i.e., every store you just mentioned). Thus I don't see how one can use that as an arguing point.
Same with the warehouses, I'm pretty sure even Nintendo does (I know Microsoft & Sony) outsource their console production to warehouses they do not own.
And as for "Sony is just playstation", that is misinterpretation of my words. I never meant that anybody implied this.

I see what you are trying to say about Sony owning these rebranded products though. I just think, when considering Nintendo licenses more than the other two it should be considered. I guess that is just my opinion.
I also wonder how much revenue they make. Especially when I see pikachus, marios, ect... at fairs as prizes.

Ive never seen a nintendo world or even heard of a pokemon center so I didnt consider them thats all. Like I said though If we ever get a chance to see the % of profits their licensing amounts to that would be nice. The fact of the matter is all the money nintendo is losing atm is because of the games (hardware & software) they make.

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

Ive never seen a nintendo world or even heard of a pokemon center so I didnt consider them thats all.

Nintendo World is located in NYC. Use to be the Pokemon Center, now the Pokemon Center is located within this store. You can play games there (for free), buy official & licensed merch, buy games & consoles, limited edition consoles only available there, and there's also a really nice history of Nintendo always on display (which changes periodically to the history of whatever new game is coming out, then back to Nintendo). If you're ever in NYC, I highly recommend going. It's a nice experience for any Nintendo fan.
The remaining Pokemon Center is located somewhere in Japan. If it's anything like the NYC one was, it's basically the Pokemon Center in the games come to life. Pokemon limited edition statues & consoles only available there, places to play the games & of course buy pokemon merch.
Both places also host gaming & trading card tourneys.
And I agree with the rest of what you said.

Now in the interest of getting back on topic though:
It seems the yoshi shirts are now out of stock.

 

[Sway]

Digital I2Bs for Kirby Triple Deluxe and Mario Golf World Tour are now up. Just like the physical I2Bs, they expire April 25th.

- Kirby Triple Deluxe (download)

- Mario Golf World Tour (download)

 

[RiceQuakes]

Wake me up when September ends Mario Kart pops up.

 

[YoshiFan1]

Phineas and Ferb Quest For Cool Stuff 3DS:

B5S-MNXZ-Y3JJ-3LR

 

[Romeo]

Phineas and Ferb Quest For Cool Stuff 3DS:

B5S-MNXZ-Y3JJ-3LR

Already used. Either stolen or the person who took it is still filling out the survey.

 

[amusedtoe]

Everyone stop. This has gotten way off topic. Take it to the proper forums. I know this thread isn't active but that doesn't make it right to throw it way off topic.

Yeah, back to arguing about how CN isn't free and complaining how bad it is!

 

[mitch079]

I apologize for not being more specific: I don't own an flatscreen HD TV. Don't really like HD. Can't afford it even if I did. My old pre-digital ones work for what i want them to. I have two old fat back SONY TVs. So when I said I like their TVs, I actually meant their old ones.

'sup IATCG.

 

[Romeo]

Son of a... well the year end club nintendo email came for me and it's worse than last year... I have 4,370 points expiring this time around. Last year I had to waste points on a bunch of junk as nothing is ever restocked.

 

[dreamer131313]

Son of a... well the year end club nintendo email came for me and it's worse than last year... I have 4,370 points expiring this time around. Last year I had to waste points on a bunch of junk as nothing is ever restocked.

damn if you have that many expiring at the end of this Nintendo year you should of gotten one the luigi figurine hell even a couple of them lol

 

[admiralvic]

Son of a... well the year end club nintendo email came for me and it's worse than last year... I have 4,370 points expiring this time around. Last year I had to waste points on a bunch of junk as nothing is ever restocked.

Why would you redeem so many codes at once? o.x;; I am not trying to be rude, mean, or anything, I am just genuinely curious why you would redeem enough codes to hit platinum 7.3 times in one calendar year.

 

[amusedtoe]

Seriously. It's the same thing as when someone complained about losing enough points to have gotten several of he worthwhile rewards that had been up recently. Even if you don't personally want things there's been items that sell for a reasonable amount.

 

[Romeo]

Seriously. It's the same thing as when someone complained about losing enough points to have gotten several of he worthwhile rewards that had been up recently. Even if you don't personally want things there's been items that sell for a reasonable amount.

I don't believe in reselling. At all. I despise it.

 

[Kismayaz]

Just about everything in this world is resold, groceries, gas, even your water.

 

[DetectiveConanA113]

'sup IATCG.

I see this around a lot, what does it mean?

Also: does anyone know if the nintendoland bundled with a controller comes with club nintendo points? I thought only the version bundled with wii u didn't come with points.