Comcast to slow my internet? WTF?!

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It was just in the paper today. Comcast and the other providers here said that they are going to do some testing. They are going to slow people's internet down if you use it a lot. I play a lot of games and surf the web all the time. This is going to piss me off when my internet slows down.

Do you think my family can get out of our Comcast internet plan because of this bullshit?
 
Hmm you signed a contract and they are "amending" it by slowing your speed? You did sign the dotted line for a certain speed, didn't you? Sounds like a case for PHOENIX WRIGHT! Not even Edgeworth could defend Comcast !
 
Are there any decent alternatives to Comcast in your area?

I hate Comcast but here in Seattle they're the only cable provider. Qwest & Verizon both provide DSL, which is even worse than Comcast's cable. Something to consider before you cancel.
 
I got an hunch that Comcast is looking more at people who are leeching via Bittorrent all day long rather than "typical" users such as yourself naes. I wouldn't get too worried yet.
 
[quote name='naes']It was just in the paper today. Comcast and the other providers here said that they are going to do some testing. They are going to slow people's internet down if you use it a lot. I play a lot of games and surf the web all the time. This is going to piss me off when my internet slows down.

Do you think my family can get out of our Comcast internet plan because of this bullshit?[/quote]

:rofl:

I don't think they are going to slow it down to 56k speeds if that's what your worried about. You will still be able to enjoy xbl and WoW at the minimum required speed that these services need to provide their services with.

I wouldn't worry, unless your a torrent nut downloading 5 gigs of videos/music a month.
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']5 gigs a month is nothing.

That's ONE 13 ep anime series. :/

Enjoy your failnets.[/quote]


If I recall, we had someone here who had a roommate/friend who used 5 gigs in a day. holy shit that's either a lot of HD porn or a lot of anime.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']:rofl:

I don't think they are going to slow it down to 56k speeds if that's what your worried about. You will still be able to enjoy xbl and WoW at the minimum required speed that these services need to provide their services with.

I wouldn't worry, unless your a torrent nut downloading 5 gigs of videos/music a month.[/QUOTE]

5 whole gigs? That's crazy talk.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']I wouldn't worry, unless your a torrent nut downloading 5 gigs of videos/music a month.[/QUOTE]

I watch many TV shows online. Hulu, NBC.com, etc (some episodes are high-def). I also stream music from Pandora, download some anime on BitTorrent, and play Warcraft 3 online. When I download movie trailers I usually watch it in HD. I also download game demos from Steam, XBL, PSN. I also buy most of my PC games from Steam, rather than physical copies. On occasion I exceed 5gb in a day, much less a month.
 
[quote name='DarkSageRK']5 gigs a month is nothing.

That's ONE 13 ep anime series. :/

Enjoy your failnets.[/quote]Uh, 25 episodes of The Simpsons, DVD rip, is only 4.26 Gigs.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Uh, 25 episodes of The Simpsons, DVD rip, is only 4.26 Gigs.[/QUOTE]

Uh, different quality rips.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Hmm you signed a contract and they are "amending" it by slowing your speed? You did sign the dotted line for a certain speed, didn't you? Sounds like a case for PHOENIX WRIGHT! Not even Edgeworth could defend Comcast ![/QUOTE]
The contracts clearly state that they're free to change the terms however the hell they want, without notice or warning.

[quote name='ITDEFX']I wouldn't worry, unless your a torrent nut downloading 5 gigs of videos/music a month.[/QUOTE]
5 gigs a month???
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[quote name='VanillaGorilla']Uh, 25 episodes of The Simpsons, DVD rip, is only 4.26 Gigs.[/QUOTE]
There is such a thing as difference quality encodes, ya know.
 
pshht...fuck Comcast. Let them go to hell...switch to someone else. You shouldn't have started with them from the beginning. That's your failure right there. This is nothing new. I play WoW, go on XBL, listen to Last.fm while playing games/WoW/etc. Youtube all the time ( I prefer to just watch anime through youtube then use the hd space)....enjoy hulu here and there...etc. 5GB is nothing in a month, not even on just XBL.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']If I recall, we had someone here who had a roommate/friend who used 5 gigs in a day. holy shit that's either a lot of HD porn or a lot of anime.[/quote]

5gb isn't much, and I'm on DSL.

Also, my DSL worked better than Comcasts cable when I had it before. Not sure if its improved now but around here is was horribly unreliable. Would go out all the time for random amounts of time.
 
[quote name='Koggit']I watch many TV shows online. Hulu, NBC.com, etc (some episodes are high-def). I also stream music from Pandora, download some anime on BitTorrent, and play Warcraft 3 online. When I download movie trailers I usually watch it in HD. I also download game demos from Steam, XBL, PSN. I also buy most of my PC games from Steam, rather than physical copies. On occasion I exceed 5gb in a day, much less a month.[/quote]

same here
 
5gigs a month?

Sometimes I average around 15GBs a day, and that's just from downloading. I'm unsure of the bandwidth of surfing the internet and using Live.
 
I upload 20 gigs/day if I forget to turn off my computer before I go to work. Typically I only DL a few gigs a month, but my upload is about 1.2MB/sec and stuff just flies outta here.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']The contracts clearly state that they're free to change the terms however the hell they want, without notice or warning.
.[/QUOTE]

Way to go Comcast on stiffing your customers.

Yeap time to look for a new provider. I've had DSL for years and don't miss Cable much anyways. Get lag free 12+ player matches and download at a decent speed. I guess if I was downloading movies all day that would be a different story but I don't.
 
Yup, start researching Net Neutrality as it is already appearing over in the UK. Did'nt Netflix get sued over quotas that they were imposing over their customers? I remember Netflix purposely slowing down shipments in order for their heavy users to get less and less movies.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']
There is such a thing as difference quality encodes, ya know.[/quote]
Yes, I know. 13 episodes of some anime, ripped at non DVD quality, would only be like 2 gigs, not that much.
 
You'd have to check the terms of service for when you signed up for Internet service. Unless there's something about throttling of your connection in the TOS, then you're stuck.

In any case, you're paying for maximums, not minimums, so they could throttle your connection speeds and they'd still be within their requirements for your service.
 
[quote name='Koggit']Are there any decent alternatives to Comcast in your area?

I hate Comcast but here in Seattle they're the only cable provider. Qwest & Verizon both provide DSL, which is even worse than Comcast's cable. Something to consider before you cancel.[/QUOTE]I hate Comcast. I'm so glad to be out of their cable service. Thankfully where I live, I can use Verizon FiOS instead (much better) for Internet and TV.
 
You think that is shitty? I use a small local ISP because it is my only High-speed option and they will shut down my internet completely, sometimes for days because of Maintenance and they don't even warn me.

Also 5gigs a month is NOTHING. I have a crappy DSL and I probably do at least 2GBs per day.
 
I've got Comcast "hi-speed" and my youtube videos studder. Seriously, they want to slow it down whatever, I don't see that it can get much worse before I cancel it.
 
Comcast lied to the FCC about Interweb throttling and nothing bad happend to them. They changed there user agreement right before they started to throttle. They made up some bs about inorder to have the fastest network they need to cap bandwith.

I am fairly convinced that Time Warner does the same. I went to my friends house who just got the most expensive package they had for there internet. I went and set it up and he only gets 300 KBPS down. He should be getting a few megs down.

There all going to start doing it. I would say for torrent change your port numbers to something very high my friend has to do that with AT&T just to upload.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Way to go Comcast on stiffing your customers.[/QUOTE]
Uh, pretty much every service contract works this way, dude. Phone service, TV service, et cetera.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']If I recall, we had someone here who had a roommate/friend who used 5 gigs in a day. holy shit that's either a lot of HD porn or a lot of anime.[/quote]

5GB is nothing nowadays.

I'm pretty sure they would be ass out the second they throttled for 5GB in a day. I downloaded an HD version of the Star Trek episode "Trouble with Tribbles" on Live Marketplace and it was 2.3 GB by itself. Granted, I have Embarq DSL and not Comcast, but I agree with other people that this is about Bittorent.

Honestly, I think a lot of internet companies are trying to cover their ass on torrents since it is primarily used for illegal copies. I used to use it to download unlicensed fansubbed anime, but I gave it up two years ago. It's just not worth the hassle or potential problems.
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']If I recall, we had someone here who had a roommate/friend who used 5 gigs in a day. holy shit that's either a lot of HD porn or a lot of anime.[/quote]
I could do that in around an hour if i wanted, i have in the past.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I hate Comcast. I'm so glad to be out of their cable service. Thankfully where I live, I can use Verizon FiOS instead (much better) for Internet and TV.[/QUOTE]

We have Verizon fiber optic here in Seattle and it sucks, it's slower than Comcast.

Comcast's network here is fiber and it's slower than the COX copper network my mom has in Louisiana.


My mom's copper connection with COX > my fiber connection with Comcast > Seattle area's fiber with Verizon

Strictly speaking in terms of speed, at least.
 
ok I give up... how does one find out if he is using 5 gigs a day? I don't download anything huge and most of my bandwidth is being used by the 360 anyways.
 
[quote name='Koggit']We have Verizon fiber optic here in Seattle and it sucks, it's slower than Comcast.

Comcast's network here is fiber and it's slower than the COX copper network my mom has in Louisiana.


My mom's copper connection with COX > my fiber connection with Comcast > Seattle area's fiber with Verizon

Strictly speaking in terms of speed, at least.[/quote]

Same here, switched from COX Communication's to FIOS...big mistake :(
 
[quote name='hardwo0d']Did'nt Netflix get sued over quotas that they were
imposing over their customers? I remember Netflix purposely slowing down
shipments in order for their heavy users to get less and less movies.[/QUOTE]

Yes, and they lost the suit. I've never had the problem as I'm a light user. They should love me. :D
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']ok I give up... how does one find out if he is using 5 gigs a day? I don't download anything huge and most of my bandwidth is being used by the 360 anyways.[/quote]Should be able to do it with some simple network traffic monitoring software.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Uh, pretty much every service contract works this way, dude. Phone service, TV service, et cetera.[/QUOTE]

T-Mobile has never screwed me over (outside of lack of coverage in one area) and they have refunded me for my "accidental downloads" and let me be late countless times with no fees, and my DSL has been flawless. I beg to differ.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']T-Mobile has never screwed me over (outside of lack of coverage in one area) and they have refunded me for my "accidental downloads" and let me be late countless times with no fees, and my DSL has been flawless. I beg to differ.[/QUOTE]

Uh, just because they've been nice to you doesn't mean that the clauses aren't there. And likewise, just because the clause is there, doesn't mean that they will use it every chance they get, and not be nice every once in a while.

I'm not talking about how often they use it; just that it exists. Read your contract carefully. They can, if they choose, change any of the terms, at any point, with or without telling you.
 
I've had Cox for a couple of months now, switched from AT&T DSL, It's a lot faster, the speed has been faster than advertised for me, never seen it go down lower than 6mpbs. I get 900kbps average download and I have the 7mbps plan, the only thing I didn't like about cable internet is that I've had the same IP address for over 2 months, doesn't really matter but I wish I could change it like I could when I had DSL.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] They can, if they choose, change any of the terms, at any point, with or without telling you.[/QUOTE]

Wrong. If you sign a 1-2 year agreement you are legally binded to those terms and conditons that you first agreed to. If they, for any reason, change terms and agreements after you sign your contract your are able to back out at no cost and they must notify you of such changes. If they don't, well then you can look at numerous other lawsuits that have succeeded over such things from small claims to large claims.

You can stop replying to my posts now. Thanks.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Wrong. If you sign a 1-2 year agreement you are legally binded to those terms and conditons that you first agreed to. If they, for any reason, change terms and agreements after you sign your contract your are able to back out at no cost and they must notify you of such changes. If they don't, well then you can look at numerous other lawsuits that have succeeded over such things from small claims to large claims.

You can stop replying to my posts now. Thanks.[/quote]This is correct, as this is the case with a cellphone contract, as well as other contract-based situations.

Any time the other party changes anything in the contract terms during the contract period, they have to tell you in advance and give you the out, just as stated above.

If they change the rules, and there's nothing in the contract that gives them the right to make the changes without notification, it's an out you can take and leave the contract.

For an ISP, they tend to have badly-worded contracts that a change like this would allow you out of. Which is why they're all moving away from them.
 
You got it totally wrong. They only limit speeds to those who abuse, i.e. spammers and those who download crap all day long. By limiting those people it keeps everyone else's bandwith higher. Also you are probably not in a contract at all, and who else would provide better internet?
 
First of all, you guys need to step back from the ledge.......

Comcast is going to be throttling heavy bandwidth users who run during peak hours...that means don't start your torrentz or leeching until the evening when you go to sleep. Then, if they throttle you, who cares. The idea is that one jamoke raping torrent sites can saturate his local feeds bandwidth and the neighbors get pissed when their own internet is now slowing to a crawl. Peak Hours kids, not 24/7. (and yes they will probably define peak hours as 7am to 11pm, but still).

As for bandwidth limitations, Comcast is propsing (its not there, its a proposal) a monthly cap of 250gigs a month. This is a realistic number if you download ANY HD CONTENT or DVD Content at all...and I'mnot talking ILLEGAL stuff here, I'm talking about Netflix On Demand or Microsoft LIVE downloads, or AppleTV downloads and so on. All that adds up. And while that may be an excessively large number even TODAY, what about tomorrow?

IF you work from home you could transfer alot of data between your company VPN and your laptop, if your company uses Video on Demand or Video Conferencing, there's even more bandwidth usage.

The folks who have it bad are on COX or Time Warner....they have said they are going to do a 40gb a month CAP..and anything over that you start paying out the wazoo for all the extra bandwidth you use.

NOw if you download stuff on those plans AND you're a work-from-home person you could very easily find yourself screwed out of broadband, or paying through the nose.

If you use Live, surf the web for pron every night, and check mail..watch the ocacaional YouTube or viral video I doubt you guys would crack a few gigs of data in a month.

ITs just funnny how its all coming full circle:
My first Internet-only plan was $40 dollars for 40 hours of useage a month.
That became $40 dollars for unlimited usage each month
That became $50 dollars for unlimited broadband per month, at insane speeds....in 2001 I was downloading at nearly 2 megaBYTES per second.
That became $50 dollars for unlimited broadband per month, but at a capped speed of 2megabits down
That became $50 dollasr for unlimited broadband per month, but at a capped speed of 4mbps down.....
That became $50 dollasr for unlimited broadband per month, but at a capped speed of 6mbps down.....
That became $50 dollasr for unlimited broadband per month, but at a capped speed of 4mbps down.....only now there is speed throttling going on and there is already a system in place that if you use too much bandwidth per month, they boot you off the system..and as of YET they wont tell you how much bandwidth is TOO much, so you have no idea if you're gonig to get booted or not

Pretty soon it'll be $50 for 40 hours of broadband per month, with a download limit of 40gigabytes of total data. :)
 
[quote name='HeadRusch']

If you use Live, surf the web for pron every night, and check mail..watch the ocacaional YouTube or viral video I doubt you guys would crack a few gigs of data in a month.[/quote]



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