Dark Souls (Project Dark) - October 4, 2011

[quote name='Backlash']Hey, if it hurts him bad enough it might be worth it to use the special attack. Just remember to repair the sword after the battle. I can't even get to Havel since I didn't take the master key. So stupid of me.

I didn't set out to do it this way, but I sort of cheesed the black knight at the top of the tower near the Hellkite dragon. I was fighting him and rolled to dodge and ended up on the stairs. He started to follow, so I just kept backing down the stairs and casting Fireball until he was dead. Of course, it's the 3rd black knight I've killed, and so far ZERO loot drops (other than the titanite).[/QUOTE]
At the time I was trying to take down Havel I hadn't found the blacksmith yet so I was afraid to use that attack for fear the weapon would break before I found a way to repair it and as I understand it broken weapons don't just become unusable, they completely disappear so with unique weapons that means your fucked if they break.

I started as a thief for the master key + free gift so my cheesing options are fairly limited (though I recently found the mage vendor, man are those canes heavy through as a hand switch weapon), it was hell fighting one of those black knights in a narrow hallway with no magic in the asylum. So far the only black knight weapon drop I've gotten is a halbred which stinks because I'm not a fan of two-handed weapons, I'd much rather have literally ANY of the rest of the black knight drops.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']At the time I was trying to take down Havel I hadn't found the blacksmith yet so I was afraid to use that attack for fear the weapon would break before I found a way to repair it and as I understand it broken weapons don't just become unusable, they completely disappear so with unique weapons that means your fucked if they break.[/QUOTE]

Good point. Although the merchant in Undead Burg sells stuff to repair weapons also. In fact, it took me so many runs to beat the Taurus Demon (not proud of that) that my handaxe was almost broken. I saved up and bought the repair powder for 500 souls, only to find out that a) it didn't repair it all the way and b) buying a new handaxe was cheaper anyway. I was not happy at that point in time.
 
[quote name='Jodou']Hahaha, holy shit. Buddy of mine linked me this and I can't stop laughing.
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That was pretty awesome; thanks for the link. I can't believe the black knight showed up at the bonfire after he rested there - hilarious.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']All the black knights apper at the end of the game and respawn in that location[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected then, I only assumed they were the same. BTW, since they do respawn this is the spot to farm chunks for weapon trophies (100% drop rate from what I just read). I highly recommend not wasting slabs on anything but upgrading for these since there's only one of each type per playthrough. I've read that you can pop the trophy then quit via XMB if you want to get all the weapon trophies on your first playthrough, but it's not necessary considering you will have to complete the game at least twice.

Another thing to do before beating the game is going back and murdering every single flame keeper for the soul to upgrade your restus flask. The Princess, Chaos Witch, and Darkmoon guard in Anor Londo are the three I've killed off the top of my head.[quote name='Backlash']That was pretty awesome; thanks for the link. I can't believe the black knight showed up at the bonfire after he rested there - hilarious.[/QUOTE]
That might have been staged for effect, but still hilarious.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Good point. Although the merchant in Undead Burg sells stuff to repair weapons also. In fact, it took me so many runs to beat the Taurus Demon (not proud of that) that my handaxe was almost broken. I saved up and bought the repair powder for 500 souls, only to find out that a) it didn't repair it all the way and b) buying a new handaxe was cheaper anyway. I was not happy at that point in time.[/QUOTE]
LOL, that sucks, you'd think they could make it repair all the way since it costs 1/4th the price of the bonfire repair kits, but I guess it's so that it is costly to use a weapon with low max durability.

First thing I did when I found the blacksmith was to grind out the souls to purchase the repair kit and upgrade kits so I could do almost any upgrade/repair I wanted from any bonfire.
[quote name='Backlash']That was pretty awesome; thanks for the link. I can't believe the black knight showed up at the bonfire after he rested there - hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Same thing happened to me, I caught the aggro of the black knight the first time and I started running, went into the bonfire area thinking I would be safe, but sure enough that was still in his leash range and he killed me. Though I ended up using it to my advantage and brought him back there each time I tried to kill him so that my bloodstain would be right by the fire when I spawned.
 
[quote name='guardian_owl']First thing I did when I found the blacksmith was to grind out the souls to purchase the repair kit and upgrade kits so I could do almost any upgrade/repair I wanted from any bonfire.[/QUOTE]

I was going to do that, but since you could buy more than one, I assumed those were consumable items. Can you repair an infinite number of times with one repair box? If so, I'll pick one up next time it's convenient (just got to the bonfire at the bottom of Blighttown and I am NOT going back any time soon unless some awesome shortcut opens up, even though I'm starting to run low on arrows).

I got there via Darkroot Basin > Valley of the Drakes (runnning like hell) > Blighttown since I couldn't seem to get past the first big guy at the top entrance to Blighttown via the door from the Depths. Not a super-long route, but still annoying to go back and forth.
 
[quote name='Backlash']I was going to do that, but since you could buy more than one, I assumed those were consumable items. Can you repair an infinite number of times with one repair box? If so, I'll pick one up next time it's convenient (just got to the bonfire at the bottom of Blighttown and I am NOT going back any time soon unless some awesome shortcut opens up, even though I'm starting to run low on arrows).

I got there via Darkroot Basin > Valley of the Drakes (runnning like hell) > Blighttown since I couldn't seem to get past the first big guy at the top entrance to Blighttown via the door from the Depths. Not a super-long route, but still annoying to go back and forth.[/QUOTE]
Infinite use and costs the same for repair/upgrade as using a blacksmith, it just can't do the fancy ascension type stuff. It's basically like having a Boldwin at every bonfire (repairs and basic crafting) but you still have to go to a blacksmith to do advanced crafting.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']You cant buy more than one that I know of, and yes, buy it once, use if for the rest of the playthrough[/QUOTE]
You can't imagine how pissed I was when I found that out. Since it wasn't clear they weren't one-time use, I never bought them and just returned to the BS before Sen's every time to repair. I was pretty much at the end of the game when my brother pointed it out. -_-
 
Running through the catacombs now. Made a +5 divine weapon so the skeletons stay dead.

I switched my main weapon over from the lightning spear +5 to the moonlight blade (or whatever it is that you get from cutting off Seethe's tail). I also made the crystal ring shield with the butterfly soul. It sucks as a shield, but it can kill everything.

I was able to get the all sorcery trophy and I should get the pyromancy one too. The miracle trophy is a bit ridiculous though because it requires you to join 4 different covenants (one of which you can't get until at least your second play through because you have to offer 10 sunlight medals and there are only 9 in a single game plus you have to give them the last boss' soul).
I made a tally of all the weapons I have for the weapons trophy and the difficult ones I still need are Black Knight Greatsword/Greataxe/Halberd and the Titanite Catch Pole.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Running through the catacombs now. Made a +5 divine weapon so the skeletons stay dead.[/QUOTE]
FYI, they stay dead once you kill the fire keepers, which don't respawn. You can stick to your main weapon once that happens. Also, once you make it to the bottom of the valley before the final boss
you might want to go human form so Paladin Leeroy can invade you. He drops Grant which is part of the rare weapons trophy. I missed this my first time and can't spawn him now the boss is dead.

I was lucky to get that titanite catch pole early, but I'm still missing the ones you listed too. :\
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh'] you have to offer 10 sunlight medals and there are only 9 in a single game [/QUOTE]

I think I read that if you help someone else kill a boss and that person also has summoned Solaire, he gives everyone a sunlight medal. So you could try putting your soul sign down before those bosses, I guess, if this is true.
 
[quote name='Backlash']I think I read that if you help someone else kill a boss and that person also has summoned Solaire, he gives everyone a sunlight medal. So you could try putting your soul sign down before those bosses, I guess, if this is true.[/QUOTE]
Damn, I just read up on this. Where are you guys finding 9 total? I'm pretty sure I only have 4 and don't want to be shortchanged when I start NG++ since you need the soul for a weapon as well. This game has too much shit to keep track of!
 
Heh, I don't think too many people are going to be summoning you at SL 400. I am trying not to read TOO much, but I know Solaire can give you one after each of the battles you summon him for (so far I've forgotten to summon him even a single time), and the guy in the bell tower gives you one when you rescue him, so that's around 6 right there I think.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']There are 3 in a chest in Anor Londo

You should have no problem getting 10 by the time your 3 play throughs are up[/QUOTE]
That and the guy I rescued must be the four I got then. Wonder where the other 5 are. . .
 
[quote name='Jodou']That and the guy I rescued must be the four I got then. Wonder where the other 5 are. . .[/QUOTE]

3 in a chest in Anor Londo, 1 when you talk to Soltaire in Firelink plus 1 each time you summon Soltaire and he lives though the fight: Gargoyles, Gaping Dragon, Ornstein and Smough, Centipede Demon and Gwyn. If you don't summon him once, the chain is broken and you can't summon him in the future.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']5 from Solaire living in the 5 bosses you can summon him

That is my understanding[/QUOTE]
Oh no wonder, I didn't bother because I only solo bosses unless it's scripted otherwise. Guess I need to use those summon signs this time.
 
I didn't summon Solaire for the Gargoyle fight (though I could've used his help, they're the FLamelurker boss of this game IMO), but he's available for summon for Gaping Dragon.

So glad I picked Pyromancer. I wouldn't have been able to kill a lot of tougher enemies like black knights without the fire spell. Would've been doable with arrows I suppose but time consuming.
 
[quote name='IRHari']I didn't summon Solaire for the Gargoyle fight (though I could've used his help, they're the FLamelurker boss of this game IMO), but he's available for summon for Gaping Dragon.

So glad I picked Pyromancer. I wouldn't have been able to kill a lot of tougher enemies like black knights without the fire spell. Would've been doable with arrows I suppose but time consuming.[/QUOTE]


I died a LOT without his help on the gargoyles.

Now I'm at the Capra Demon and I'm getting fucking destroyed. Got 15k souls hanging out in the corner as well...
 
[quote name='n4styn4t3']I died a LOT without his help on the gargoyles.

Now I'm at the Capra Demon and I'm getting fucking destroyed. Got 15k souls hanging out in the corner as well...[/QUOTE]

Patience for a few seconds upon entering, then run up the stairs (may need to roll out of the way of his first swing) & kill the doggies first. Piece of cake after that. Wait for demon to come up stairs, jump off, wait for him to jump off, get a few shots in, run back up stair. Lather, rinse, repeat till he's dead.
 
Ok I'm having a problem getting int to Lost Izilith

1: Beat the Centipede Demon boss.
2: Find a small doorway in his room.
3: Break Centipedes arm and get the ring, with the ring you may cross the lava area.

Done all those^^^ But the door in the centipide boss room is still closed.

(I killed the chaos firekeeper by accident btw)
 
Can you only see Solaire's summon signs in human form? I beat both the gargoyles and the gaping dragon (surprisingly easy for such a massive, cool monster) without his help and didn't even see a place to summon him. I assume that's because I've only used humanity once...

Played way longer than I should have last night, but am now in the Great Hollow, so as long as I can avoid the damned basilisks on the way down I should be able to glitch out a handful of levels and make the game much more playable in the short bursts I should be playing it...
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']Can you only see Solaire's summon signs in human form? I beat both the gargoyles and the gaping dragon (surprisingly easy for such a massive, cool monster) without his help and didn't even see a place to summon him. I assume that's because I've only used humanity once...

Played way longer than I should have last night, but am now in the Great Hollow, so as long as I can avoid the damned basilisks on the way down I should be able to glitch out a handful of levels and make the game much more playable in the short bursts I should be playing it...[/QUOTE]

Yea, you've gotta be human to summon or be invaded.
 
Okay, can someone slowly tell me where to one-shot the Hellkite at? Honestly, I am up at the top where the Black Knight (I'm invincible!) is at and looking down toward the bridge, but the d@mn dragon cannot be seen. That's after I just watched him nuke the bridge. Run down to the stairwell, get to the fire and I see the wings. What am I doing wrong?
 
[quote name='Brainberry']Ok I'm having a problem getting int to Lost Izilith

1: Beat the Centipede Demon boss.
2: Find a small doorway in his room.
3: Break Centipedes arm and get the ring, with the ring you may cross the lava area.

Done all those^^^ But the door in the centipide boss room is still closed.

(I killed the chaos firekeeper by accident btw)[/QUOTE]
Door doesn't open unless you're a good little chaos servant. ;)

Anyway, you need to take a left instead of a right in there and travel through the tunnel on the side of the cave.[quote name='jacknicklson']http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/606312-dark-souls/60552749

That list is from the guide

Check out the wiki and you should be able to piece everything together

or you can check here:

http://www.ps3trophies.com/forums/showwiki.php?title=Dark-Souls-Trophy-Guide

I havent verified the accuracy but its a start[/QUOTE]Be wary of the PS3 trophies one, because it mislead me to believe you couldn't farm the Black Knights for their weapons. Found out last night after hearing from you guys that they respawn (at the end) that you can farm all their rare weapons easily (and get chunks while you're at it). So basically, I need to farm those stone giants for their shit and then complete the game 1.5 more times and I'll have everything now. BTW, that fucking greatsword they drop took me probably 25 kills to get. I know it's random but damn, I have like 5+ of everything else they drop in the time it took me to get one of those.[quote name='jmbreci']Okay, can someone slowly tell me where to one-shot the Hellkite at? Honestly, I am up at the top where the Black Knight (I'm invincible!) is at and looking down toward the bridge, but the d@mn dragon cannot be seen. That's after I just watched him nuke the bridge. Run down to the stairwell, get to the fire and I see the wings. What am I doing wrong?[/QUOTE]
That glitch might have been fixed in the patch. I also tried this before just killing him legit. I thought maybe he was bugged and just invisible, but my arrows flew right through where he'd normally be. I wouldn't waste your time TBH since he's only worth 10k souls, which is a drop in the bucket. No trophy for killing him and once you cut his tail off, he's worthless for loot.
 
Lost 20k souls to the Capra Demon. Might be done for a couple days. I can't even step through the white light without getting half of my life and all of my shield taken off.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Where was Paladin Leeroy supposed to show up? Before or after Pinwheel?[/QUOTE]I can't speak from experience, but he's supposed to spawn before the boss fight in that canyon. From what I read, his summon sign is on the ledge above the canyon floor that you can drop down to for a few items. I would just try running around that area to see if he spawns personally because there seems to be a lot of conflicting information.

UPDATE: OK, it appears you can both summon him and be invaded by him. It looks like the way to get invaded is be human form in Tomb of Giants and when you're on the outside ledge that is well lit, go all the way down the path to the left for him to spawn. God damn this game![quote name='n4styn4t3']Lost 20k souls to the Capra Demon. Might be done for a couple days. I can't even step through the white light without getting half of my life and all of my shield taken off.[/QUOTE]Bait him to the left and roll past to the right without targeting him. If you try to straight up sprint to the stairs, they will cut you off every time. Don't even try to brunt his first blow since it's likely an overhead smash. Once you're on the steps the dogs should cut him off and you'll have an easy time killing them before taking him on.
 
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[quote name='n4styn4t3']Lost 20k souls to the Capra Demon. Might be done for a couple days. I can't even step through the white light without getting half of my life and all of my shield taken off.[/QUOTE]
Make sure your at 25% so that you can roll pretty fluidly, start by rolling slightly to the left as he (or the dogs) is about to nail you for the first time then sprint for the stairs. Once up the stairs he will have a difficult time getting up them initially allowing you time to kill the dogs. Then after that lure him to the side of the stairs, plunge attack, rinse and repeat.
 
Any tips on fighting and beating Quelaag? She moves so quickly and her fire attacks just seem to rape me - several of them come out fast and take up a huge amount of room (I'm not even talking about the lava on the floor). My usual tactics of stay behind the boss (which worked so well on the gargoyles, the lightning demon, and the gaping dragon) don't seem to work on her. Staying near her front is ok until she uses fire. I don't think I've gotten more than a third of her health off.

I'm wearing my Pyromancer gear, which has been great for Blighttown since it's the highest poison resistance and fire resistance of anything I've seen so far, plus the Heater shield. Drake sword is still my best weapon right now.

On a related note, I thought about using humanity to turn human and summoning an NPC for help, assuming there's one for this boss fight. If I summon an NPC and we both die against the boss (or even if I just die), can I summon them again for the same fight? Or is it a one-time deal? I'm afraid to try until I can fight this boss a little better and get at least half her health off.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Any tips on fighting and beating Quelaag? She moves so quickly and her fire attacks just seem to rape me - several of them come out fast and take up a huge amount of room (I'm not even talking about the lava on the floor). My usual tactics of stay behind the boss (which worked so well on the gargoyles, the lightning demon, and the gaping dragon) don't seem to work on her. Staying near her front is ok until she uses fire. I don't think I've gotten more than a third of her health off.

I'm wearing my Pyromancer gear, which has been great for Blighttown since it's the highest poison resistance and fire resistance of anything I've seen so far, plus the Heater shield. Drake sword is still my best weapon right now.

On a related note, I thought about using humanity to turn human and summoning an NPC for help, assuming there's one for this boss fight. If I summon an NPC and we both die against the boss (or even if I just die), can I summon them again for the same fight? Or is it a one-time deal? I'm afraid to try until I can fight this boss a little better and get at least half her health off.[/QUOTE]
Her glaring flaw is range, since the whip has limited reach. Just bait her attacks until she's ready to spew lava and then move in behind for a few body blows. I one-shot her without any issue really but I had a 2H melee build. Don't summon the NPC unless you're confident you can kill her, because I'm almost positive he will die if you do and we all know death is permanent.
 
Well, I can hold the Drake sword in 2 hands, but it's nowhere near one-shotting her (tried that a few times). I'm SL 31 - were you much higher level when you fought her or something? What weapon were you using at this point in the game?
 
[quote name='Backlash']Well, I can hold the Drake sword in 2 hands, but it's nowhere near one-shotting her (tried that a few times). I'm SL 31 - were you much higher level when you fought her or something? What weapon were you using at this point in the game?[/QUOTE]
Oh, I meant I one-shot my attempt at killing her. She doesn't have that much HP and died pretty quick from what I remember. I had the Black Knight sword by that time, with maybe 20 strength to back it up. Definitely equip the Dragon Crest shield to block her attacks in case you do for whatever reason get hit while baiting her attacks.
 
The NPC helped me a lot with this once since she just sits there and tanks while you get in some ass shots

Just dont get greedy has her back leg hurts a lot especially at your level
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']The NPC helped me a lot with this once since she just sits there and tanks while you get in some ass shots

Just dont get greedy has her back leg hurts a lot especially at your level[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, she kicks? I must've just stayed close enough to her flank that she never did that to me. I was pretty surprised what a joke she was after getting her into a rhythm.
 
Plunge attack isn't as useful on Capra, IMO. You get the damage, but you don't get the same animation as with the bigger enemies, meaning the bosses doesn't really recoil.

I did use the plunge attack but as usual, I nearly died towards the very end when he managed to get up the stairs far more easily than usual a couple of times.

Any tips on Gaping Dragon? I'm about to fight him, I kicked ass in the Depths, never even close to dying, plus I'm in human form with a kindled fire in the Depths.
 
[quote name='jacknicklson']No really kicks but when she starts moving away it just kind of touches you lol[/QUOTE]
Oh ok, that shit is so annoying when you're just trying to get in a hit. Huge pain when it's some giant monster and your only options are going for the legs, then they move and suddenly you're being knocked around because their foot 'touched' you. -_-[quote name='IRHari']Any tips on Gaping Dragon? I'm about to fight him, I kicked ass in the Depths, never even close to dying, plus I'm in human form with a kindled fire in the Depths.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if you die to him you need your gaming skills card revoked lol. As with every boss, just go for the tail and he'll die soon enough.
 
[quote name='IRHari']
Any tips on Gaping Dragon? I'm about to fight him, I kicked ass in the Depths, never even close to dying, plus I'm in human form with a kindled fire in the Depths.[/QUOTE]

I killed him in my first attempt (alone) and I'm not that great at this game. Pretty easy. Just stay behind him, as Jodou said.

Thanks for the tips guys, I'll try again some more tonight, with summoning help hopefully. (Does anyone know what happens if the NPC or yourself die in the boss fight? Can you summon him again?)

I don't have the dragon crest shield; I must have missed it somehow.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Okay, can someone slowly tell me where to one-shot the Hellkite at? Honestly, I am up at the top where the Black Knight (I'm invincible!) is at and looking down toward the bridge, but the d@mn dragon cannot be seen. That's after I just watched him nuke the bridge. Run down to the stairwell, get to the fire and I see the wings. What am I doing wrong?[/QUOTE]

The Hellkite Dragon is definitely glitched. There are still no 100% confirmations on what triggers it to appear or if it's completely random.
You can try the path I used and see if that works for you. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8946179&postcount=690

This is from wikidot:
If the Dragon is not visible when you try this atop the tower, some users have been able to get him to reappear. Go to Firelink Shrine and use the bonfire. Then return to see if the Dragon is visible, but do not use the bonfire in Undead Burg first. If this does not work and he is still not visible, return to Firelink, use the bonfire and then go down the steps and use the elevator that takes you to New Londo. If possible, go to the Valley of the Drakes from here and then use the back entrance into Blighttown. Kill some foes and then backtrack to Firelink and again to the Dragon without stopping at bonfires on the way. This has been confirmed as a way to make the Dragon reappear.
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[quote name='ChibiJosh']Where was Paladin Leeroy supposed to show up? Before or after Pinwheel?[/QUOTE]
In case you missed it, I updated my post regarding this. The wiki was updated and it appears you can summon him for the Pinwheel boss and later kill him before Nito. I really need to just write a guide or something that explains every single TO-DO for each area because the official guide is shit for this. I love how I can go to the back of the guide and read up on NPCs yet when you're using the walkthrough portion it doesn't say a god damn thing about making sure you do certain things otherwise you're derped. You'd be amazed at how many things are going on and each event triggers something somewhere. Hell, if it weren't for the wiki and PS3 Trophies I'd never have put together some of the things needed to do for the collectible stuff.
 
Jodou - I agree with you on the guide. The guide is one of the worst ones I've come across. The maps are horrible and the area information gives you almost no guidance on where or what to do.

The best thing about the guide is the equipment listing and telling you some strategies on bosses. Other than that it is about a 5lb paperweight for me.

Devious - I'll probably try that this weekend. I just want the souls to help me get to the 20k really so I can purchase the key.
 
Thanks, Jodou. I actually got him last night. I was moving toward the end of the Tomb of Giants and I got the message. He appeared while I was on that narrow ledge, so I turned around and ran back to a larger area so I could avoid accidentally knocking him off the edge.

I found the area in the guide where it just shows the location of NPCs, and that really helped.

[quote name='Backlash']
I don't have the dragon crest shield; I must have missed it somehow.[/QUOTE]

It's where the undead dragon is in the Valley of the Drakes.
 
[quote name='Backlash']I don't have the dragon crest shield; I must have missed it somehow.[/QUOTE]
It's an item you can get early if you started with the master key.
Start at firelink, go down the steps near the bonfire and ride the elevator down to the ruins. Go down the steps and keep heading right till you find a set of steps heading up. Go up the steps and unlock the door to enter the valley of the drake. Cross the short bridge you come to and to your front will be a tunnel and to your left will be a narrow path along the cliff. Follow the narrow path to cross another bridge and you will see two items glowing on the ground in front of you.
Pick them both up quickly to get a magic damage sword and the dragon shield (oh, and also, prepare to die because you will very shortly).
I used the shield for awhile before I had the souls to basic upgrade (+5) a hollow soldier's shield which has slightly less fire but a lot more guard break reduction. It is so bizarre that the undead soldier shield is better than the knight shield is every way.
 
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