Dark Souls (Project Dark) - October 4, 2011

[quote name='ChibiJosh']I don't really see the point in choosing any item other than the master key. The items are either useless (old witch ring, pendent, binoculars) or 1 use only (divine blessing, black firebombs, twin humanity). The only other item is the tiny being ring which according to the guide only gives you a 5% max HP boost which seems like it's a waste of a good ring slot.

Instead of the tiny being ring, they should have given you the ring of favor and promise.[/QUOTE]

Only reason why I didn't pick master Key was because the Old Witch's Ring sounded more mysterious/useful and I didn't want to look online for any tips/tricks/advice when I first started. By the time I noticed, I felt that I worked too hard to get as far as I did to start over XD I plan on making a secondary character anyways, should be more of a breeze and more successful ^^ (also will have Master Key lol)
 
[quote name='Backlash']2 question about covenants:

1. If I join the Chaos Servant cov and level up to 2 to open the shortcut, does the shortcut stay open even if I leave that cov, or is it only open while I'm a Chaos Servant?

2. I've seen conflicting reports about getting sin. Some say you only get sin by "betraying" your cov (e.g. killing the other forest hunters while in that cov); others say you get sin by joining another cov while you're already in one. So far I've always gone back to Oswald to leave a cov gracefully before joining a new one so I won't get sin, but that's kind of a pain. Anyone know the real deal here?[/QUOTE]
Going to Oswald does nothing. During my first playthrough, I went to Oswald to leave Way of the White and I still got sin for it.
 
[quote name='WillThatsWho']Only reason why I didn't pick master Key was because the Old Witch's Ring sounded more mysterious/useful and I didn't want to look online for any tips/tricks/advice when I first started. By the time I noticed, I felt that I worked too hard to get as far as I did to start over XD I plan on making a secondary character anyways, should be more of a breeze and more successful ^^ (also will have Master Key lol)[/QUOTE]

The master key inst even a big deal, definitely not worth starting over for.
 
[quote name='Backlash']2 question about covenants:

1. If I join the Chaos Servant cov and level up to 2 to open the shortcut, does the shortcut stay open even if I leave that cov, or is it only open while I'm a Chaos Servant?

2. I've seen conflicting reports about getting sin. Some say you only get sin by "betraying" your cov (e.g. killing the other forest hunters while in that cov); others say you get sin by joining another cov while you're already in one. So far I've always gone back to Oswald to leave a cov gracefully before joining a new one so I won't get sin, but that's kind of a pain. Anyone know the real deal here?[/QUOTE]
I never used the shortcut but if it works like everything else, I'd assume it stays open for the remainder of that game.

Sin is either broken or a useless mechanic. I left tons of covenants either willfully or forcefully and my total sin is: one. Don't waste your time trying to avoid sin because it really doesn't affect the game at all.
 
[quote name='Backlash']2 question about covenants:
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1. I leveled up to 2 but left the Cov- door was locked.
Rejoined and the door opened.
Don't know if it will stay open once I abandon again.

2. I have only joined a Cov to get the first items and cheese mints before abandoning when I find a new one.
Never broke any rules or invaded online.
The cost to absolve my sins was 200,000 souls.
 
[quote name='Jodou']
You kill him for the key to the Depths, but otherwise he has nothing specific to a trophy. Remember, my guide is purely for things you can miss, so it's not meant to be a spoilerific walkthrough.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I'm aware of that, but, still, it would be nice to have one line about the next step in there. Something simple like "Go through white mist, fight Capra Demon". We should also add that entire thing to the OP (which I can do). If you want to add/update anything on there (like maybe the Solaire/altar thing at least), I can then post the whole thing to the OP so it is easier to find.

I have to admit, I am really confused about all the shortcuts and whatnot. I went down into Valley of the Drakes and fought 3 hairy-looking things, went into "Blighttown" and found a key for Anor Londo I think it is? But there was nowhere I could go from there down into Blighttown. I was up on a wooden walkway and it seemed there was no path to continue or ladders or anything - but it is so dark there maybe I just missed something. I just backed out and stopped playing then. I was doing that to see if it could be an alternative to fighting the Capra Demon - or at least something else to do to level up or get better equipment.

But I have no idea where you are "supposed" to go if you don't have the Master Key. Where would you normally go to get through Blighttown?

As for the Capra Demon, I'll just have to keep trying. It is a pain that it is so far from a bonfire though. I'm guessing Firelink Shrine is the closest (with the sewer shortcut open)? There's nothing too hard along the way, but it is a pain to fight through all that and then just get killed in 10 seconds by the Capra Demon and lose all the souls from that. I tried waiting, and then running/rolling left and I just got stuck up against one the dogs and hammered by the demon. I managed to get up the stairs with a sliver of health but like I said before, all 3 of them were right behind me on the stairs. Maybe I can try summoning help.
 
[quote name='io']

I have to admit, I am really confused about all the shortcuts and whatnot. I went down into Valley of the Drakes and fought 3 hairy-looking things, went into "Blighttown" and found a key for Anor Londo I think it is? But there was nowhere I could go from there down into Blighttown. I was up on a wooden walkway and it seemed there was no path to continue or ladders or anything - but it is so dark there maybe I just missed something. I just backed out and stopped playing then. I was doing that to see if it could be an alternative to fighting the Capra Demon - or at least something else to do to level up or get better equipment.

But I have no idea where you are "supposed" to go if you don't have the Master Key. Where would you normally go to get through Blighttown?
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The place where you go through to fight the hairy things is Blighttown, and there you climb down like a dozen ladders to eventually get to a water wheel. You hop on the water wheel and use that to get down to the swamps and where that drops you off is pretty close to the boss of the second bell.

The key you got is to New Londo which is what opens the shortcut that we used the master key for, I think.

That section of Blighttown is actually completely separate from the normal Blighttown you visit after going through the depths, and usually only accessible from the waterwheel once you get down to the swamps.
 
OK, I ran back and forth and saw no way to continue. I even went to every edge and turned the camera around - no ladders that I could see.
 
One of the waterwheels has little platforms you can use to ride it down (and back up) into the swamp at the bottom of Blighttown. When you ride it down, go left and follow that wall until you get to the bonfire on your left.

If you want to make your life easier (I didn't do this but wish I had), try going back to the Asylum first to get the rusted iron ring. It lets you move fast and roll in water. You don't have to fight the boss of the asylum or even a black knight to get it.

Regarding the route to the Capra demon (I did it so many times): start at Firelink, go up to the waterway, keep going straight to the undead female merchant, go down the spiral stairs, turn right and kill the two ninja guys (you can backstab the first one if you walk up to him instead of running), kill the two dogs on the stairs, enter the fog. Once or twice I died so fast on the Capra demon that my green bloodstain was actually outside the fog door. :cry:
 
[quote name='io']Yeah. I'm aware of that, but, still, it would be nice to have one line about the next step in there. Something simple like "Go through white mist, fight Capra Demon". We should also add that entire thing to the OP (which I can do). If you want to add/update anything on there (like maybe the Solaire/altar thing at least), I can then post the whole thing to the OP so it is easier to find.

I have to admit, I am really confused about all the shortcuts and whatnot. I went down into Valley of the Drakes and fought 3 hairy-looking things, went into "Blighttown" and found a key for Anor Londo I think it is? But there was nowhere I could go from there down into Blighttown. I was up on a wooden walkway and it seemed there was no path to continue or ladders or anything - but it is so dark there maybe I just missed something. I just backed out and stopped playing then. I was doing that to see if it could be an alternative to fighting the Capra Demon - or at least something else to do to level up or get better equipment.

But I have no idea where you are "supposed" to go if you don't have the Master Key. Where would you normally go to get through Blighttown?

As for the Capra Demon, I'll just have to keep trying. It is a pain that it is so far from a bonfire though. I'm guessing Firelink Shrine is the closest (with the sewer shortcut open)? There's nothing too hard along the way, but it is a pain to fight through all that and then just get killed in 10 seconds by the Capra Demon and lose all the souls from that. I tried waiting, and then running/rolling left and I just got stuck up against one the dogs and hammered by the demon. I managed to get up the stairs with a sliver of health but like I said before, all 3 of them were right behind me on the stairs. Maybe I can try summoning help.[/QUOTE]

It took me 17 tries to beat the Capra Demon the first time. Try running to the right, then cutting to the left & run up the stairs. Then you can take potshots at the dogs & jump off of the ledge & run toward the fog gate to lure them away from the stairs(lather.. rinse.. repeat). Oh, make sure you have a good shield & a decent amount of endurance too.

I beat him with my second character on the first try using this method & it took two tries for my third character.
 
[quote name='KrizB']1. I leveled up to 2 but left the Cov- door was locked.
Rejoined and the door opened.
Don't know if it will stay open once I abandon again.

2. I have only joined a Cov to get the first items and cheese mints before abandoning when I find a new one.
Never broke any rules or invaded online.
The cost to absolve my sins was 200,000 souls.[/QUOTE]

Once you get to +2 you haev to OPEN the door, like go up to it and hit X to open it. It won't automatically open.

Once you leave it stays open.

I HIGHLY recommend opening it in your first playthrough, as it leads to a respawning Titanite Demon where you can farm unlimited Demon Titanite, since he always drops 2.

Yeah I just joined Covenants to get the items. Only ones I have left are Sunlight and Darkwraith, I messed up Darkwraith by placing the Lordvessel even though I didn't talk to Frampt. He got pissed anyway and ran away forever.
 
I've been trying to get this chest that's towards the beginning of Anor Lando, it's near those long extremely narrow bridges across the ceiling with white ninjas, and I keep dying every single time because I try and jump between the pillars and it doesn't go through.
 
[quote name='AzzidReign']I've been trying to get this chest that's towards the beginning of Anor Lando, it's near those long extremely narrow bridges across the ceiling with white ninjas, and I keep dying every single time because I try and jump between the pillars and it doesn't go through.[/QUOTE]

I think I know the chest you're talking about. After you cross all the rafters it's to your left when the ladder to go back down is to your right? I have absolutely no clue how to get to that chest and it's been annoying me.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Are you saying you didn't see any ladders or that you went down a couple ladders and got to a point where you didn't see how to continue?[/QUOTE]

I see no ladders at all to even start going down. I'm up on top where the Anor Londo (or whatever) key is in a chest. There's no where to go from there (that I can see). There is a fence right in front of that chest and I see some tentacle like enemy beyond that, but the fence/gate is not openable/breakable and I see no ladders. But then again, I missed the ladder leading up to the 2 archers during the Taurus Demon fight. I was trying to do that one without climbing up and jumping on him (and I actually cleared it in my first game without going up there). I set the brightness as instructed at the beginning but it seems there are a lot of things I can't see clearly. I may have the contrast on my TV set too high or something. But still, as I said earlier, I walked to every gap near the edge of the wooder planks and never got the "Climb Down" prompt either.

[quote name='Ace_Defective']It took me 17 tries to beat the Capra Demon the first time. Try running to the right, then cutting to the left & run up the stairs. Then you can take potshots at the dogs & jump off of the ledge & run toward the fog gate to lure them away from the stairs(lather.. rinse.. repeat). Oh, make sure you have a good shield & a decent amount of endurance too.

I beat him with my second character on the first try using this method & it took two tries for my third character.[/QUOTE]

Blah - looks like I might have to grind my character a bit to get more endurance and probabaly vitality as well.

[quote name='AzzidReign']I've been trying to get this chest that's towards the beginning of Anor Lando, it's near those long extremely narrow bridges across the ceiling with white ninjas, and I keep dying every single time because I try and jump between the pillars and it doesn't go through.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about this, but I was wondering about jumping in general. There are a couple places in the first castle where there are gaps and I see messages and such on the other side. I didn't think it was possible to jump but during my many trips down the sewer past the female merchant (to get to Capra) I tried running and pressing 'O' again and noticed that I jumped then. Who knew!? :lol: There must be a use for that somewhere.

Backlash - Yeah, that's the route I've been taking, doing the exact same thing. But as for going back to the Asylum - WHAA??? I didn't think that was possible. Will the crow/raven thing fly you back there? I did notice that there was a treasure I couldn't get and a door that didn't unlock, much to my surprise, even after restarting and getting the Master Key. Is that where it is? What key unlocks that door? And yeah, most importantly, how the hell do you get back there? I thought maybe that treasure was just a NG+ item since it wasn't possible to get the first time.

In other news, my guide just came this afternoon from Amazon - got it for $13.05 as it was a gold box pick when it was also on sale. If it isn't all that useful I'm not sure I'm going to open it - would rather keep it sealed as a collectable type thing... I still have a sealed Demon's Souls CE. I don't collect many sealed games/guides, but those are the exceptions.
 
[quote name='io']
Backlash - Yeah, that's the route I've been taking, doing the exact same thing. But as for going back to the Asylum - WHAA??? I didn't think that was possible. Will the crow/raven thing fly you back there? I did notice that there was a treasure I couldn't get and a door that didn't unlock, much to my surprise, even after restarting and getting the Master Key. Is that where it is? What key unlocks that door? And yeah, most importantly, how the hell do you get back there? I thought maybe that treasure was just a NG+ item since it wasn't possible to get the first time.
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After you open the elevator shortcut between Firelink and the church in the parish you can go back. Get on the elevator in Firelink and turn around (face back to the Firelink side). As soon as the elevator starts to go up you'll see a place to roll out of the elevator to a higher ledge. Play around up there until you get the item on the roof and find the giant raven's nest.

Also, just keep looking around for those ladders in Blighttown - they're there, just hidden sometimes.
 
[quote name='Backlash']After you open the elevator shortcut between Firelink and the church in the parish you can go back. Get on the elevator in Firelink and turn around (face back to the Firelink side). As soon as the elevator starts to go up you'll see a place to roll out of the elevator to a higher ledge. Play around up there until you get the item on the roof and find the giant raven's nest.
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Wait, so you roll as the elevator is moving? Wow - would have never noticed that. I'll go do that tonight when I play since I need a break from the Capra Demon. And maybe I'll go back to Blighttown. Is it worth going down there for any loot before tackling Capra? Or will I just get killed down there too? The hairy things take a while for me to kill so I was worried other enemies down there might be tougher.
 
Have to say I have finally run into an area in Dark Souls that is actually frustrating/upsetting me: New Londo Ruins. I can hit the ghosts no problem... its jsut that I can't defend against them at all. Apparently Magic Def. Shields don't help (which I'm not surprised since they aren't really using magic) but thats the only stat that I thought "might" have helped. Only other thing I can think of is Enchanting my shield via Magic Shield spell. Any advice my fellow Hollows? :)

@io: You don't have to roll, you can walk off the elevator as it passes that opening. But to reach the Crow's Nest building, you will have to roll off the ledge to the right on to one of the beams on the side of the tower.
 
[quote name='io']Wait, so you roll as the elevator is moving? Wow - would have never noticed that. I'll go do that tonight when I play since I need a break from the Capra Demon. And maybe I'll go back to Blighttown. Is it worth going down there for any loot before tackling Capra? Or will I just get killed down there too? The hairy things take a while for me to kill so I was worried other enemies down there might be tougher.[/QUOTE]
The hairy things are the most difficult enemies down there, and they aren't even that difficult because they're slow and easy to get behind for a backstab.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']The hairy things are the most difficult enemies down there, and they aren't even that difficult because they're slow and easy to get behind for a backstab.[/QUOTE]

Well, yeah, they just took me a while is all. I backstabbed the first one, then ran around a bit so they kept their distance and poked them with the winged spear. I have yet to master rolling behind something and backstabbing it though they are probably a good candidate to work on that with. I blasted one with Soul Arrow till I killed it too. They aren't a bad farming spot, either, since it is 750 for the 3 of them.

Is there something wrong with me that I want to get back and play this right now? But I have to wait till tonight when the family is asleep! That is many hours from now ;).

So probably what I'll do tonight is help out on the gargoyle boss to get my faith limit for Solaire's covenant reduced as well as get some souls and humanity (will do that earlier at night so more people are likely to be playing), then try the elevator/crow/asylum thing, and then poke around in Blighttown a bit (though I don't want to trigger any boss fights or anything there). Then I'll try that bastard Capra again once I've leveled up a bit. I'll put everything into endurance and vitality.
 
Make sure you get the key to one of the Asylum Doors. Its on top of the building next to the tower that you ascend towards the Crow's Nest. Don't fight the Stray/Asylum Demon again just yet though io... I think he/she/it is a bit too strong for you at this level. Just avoid walking in the middle of the room that you faught him in, and continue around exploring the Asylum.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Once you get to +2 you haev to OPEN the door, like go up to it and hit X to open it. It won't automatically open.

Once you leave it stays open.
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Like I said, door was locked ("some contraption" message).
Once I rejoined the Cov and gave 1 humanity I could unlock it.


Killed the 9 bugs to progress Solaires event.
Next time when he showed up by the door, I accidentally jumped into him and somehow caused 3 damage, of course he started to attack me.
:whistle2:#

[quote name='AzzidReign']I've been trying to get this chest that's towards the beginning of Anor Lando, it's near those long extremely narrow bridges across the ceiling with white ninjas, and I keep dying every single time because I try and jump between the pillars and it doesn't go through.[/QUOTE]

Cross the rafters, go down ladder, drop onto ledge holding giant statues, roll/jump through window, go up stairs and open chest.
 
Eh fuck it, I'm gonna rubber band this shit and go to sleep, wake up at 792. Wasn't having a hard time with the game, but I maxxed that shit in Demon's Souls, wouldn't feel right to not do it in Dark Souls too.
 
[quote name='KrizB']Like I said, door was locked ("some contraption" message).
Once I rejoined the Cov and gave 1 humanity I could unlock it.[/QUOTE]
But, you said that you left the covenant then tried to open the door (or at least that's what it sounded like). You have to open the door while still in the covenant, and once it's open you should be able to leave.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Eh fuck it, I'm gonna rubber band this shit and go to sleep, wake up at 792. Wasn't having a hard time with the game, but I maxxed that shit in Demon's Souls, wouldn't feel right to not do it in Dark Souls too.[/QUOTE]

Only thing you will achieve is lack of pvp

I did this and had to start over because there is not a lot of pvp's at max level

99 is the sweet spot.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']But, you said that you left the covenant then tried to open the door (or at least that's what it sounded like). You have to open the door while still in the covenant, and once it's open you should be able to leave.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Josh read it the same way I did. He's correct about how you can open the door then leave the covenant and still use the door (cause it's still opened).

[quote name='Brainberry']Only thing you will achieve is lack of pvp

I did this and had to start over because there is not a lot of pvp's at max level

99 is the sweet spot.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'm okay with that. Honestly I didn't do a lot of PvP, I did enjoy co-op in Demon's Souls. And I'm hearing PvP is crazy broken because of the spell swap glitch.

I remember one time Jodou was helping me get trophies in Demon's Souls, and while we were trading some shitface invaded us. Jodou was behind him though, so while he made a beeline for me, Jodou backstabbed him and I ran up and sliced him. Awesome stuff.

How to do the spell swap glitch (h/t Gibbs Yamato @ Gamefaqs, C&P'd his post):
Equip pyro flame in left hand, equip weapon to be enchanted in right hand, attune basic pyro spell immediately before the enchant spell you wish to use, so when you hit up on the d-pad it switches from your pyro spell to your enchant.

1. Hit L1 to begin casting your pyro spell.
2. Hit Up on the d-pad to switch to your enchant spell.
3. Pivot your character 180 degrees with the left analog stick. If you were facing away from the camera, hit down on the stick to look at the camera. etc.
4. Hit L1 again to cast your enchant spell.

All of this needs to be done quickly. It's easier than it sounds, though, after doing it a few times. I'd recommend against it though, along with the soul/humanity dupe glitch... takes some life out of the game.
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It works really well with crystal magic weapon, since now you can enchant ANY weapon in the game. Lightning Washing Pole +5 + Crystal Magic Weapon = almost 1000 dmg.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Yeah Josh read it the same way I did. He's correct about how you can open the door then leave the covenant and still use the door (cause it's still opened).



Yeah I'm okay with that. Honestly I didn't do a lot of PvP, I did enjoy co-op in Demon's Souls. And I'm hearing PvP is crazy broken because of the spell swap glitch.

I remember one time Jodou was helping me get trophies in Demon's Souls, and while we were trading some shitface invaded us. Jodou was behind him though, so while he made a beeline for me, Jodou backstabbed him and I ran up and sliced him. Awesome stuff.

How to do the spell swap glitch (h/t Gibbs Yamato @ Gamefaqs, C&P'd his post):
It works really well with crystal magic weapon, since now you can enchant ANY weapon in the game. Lightning Washing Pole +5 + Crystal Magic Weapon = almost 1000 dmg.[/QUOTE]

After plat'n and beating the game 3+ times what is there left to do?

I think getting your toon exactly where you want him with stats and weapons is only worth while if you want to pvp.

I've dealt with TWOP and fog ring users pretty well, I just cast iron flesh if they ue TWOP on me. THeres always a way to deal with cheaters. Just be better.

Its fun.

I love the Lightning Washing Pole +5 btw, that and the Chaos Uchi +5 are my main weapons.
 
just a question my fire keeper died somehow in fire shrine and now i cant use the bonfire there. know what happened? i guess it has something to do with that yellow knight or pvp lol.
anyways just got to ardo lodo so im going to farm about 80k souls for my spells :)
 
[quote name='Kevfactor']just a question my fire keeper died somehow in fire shrine and now i cant use the bonfire there. know what happened? i guess it has something to do with that yellow knight or pvp lol.
anyways just got to ardo lodo so im going to farm about 80k souls for my spells :)[/QUOTE]

I think she drops something that helps you locate laurtec in anor londo.

never really had the problem because I always killed him early game.
 
I guess I'm lucky, I killed the Capra Demon on my first try. I almost died, but I kept hacking at him. Luckily, when I entered the room, the dogs jumped me; I killed them both with one hit. Then I rolled and dodged the CD and just kept hitting him.
 
[quote name='jh6269']I guess I'm lucky, I killed the Capra Demon on my first try. I almost died, but I kept hacking at him. Luckily, when I entered the room, the dogs jumped me; I killed them both with one hit. Then I rolled and dodged the CD and just kept hitting him.[/QUOTE]

What level are you at? No way I can kill those dogs in one hit. At least I can't kill the ones outside in one hit and I assume the ones inside are at least as tough. I have a lot less health and stamina than the screen shots in the Gamespot guide (where they said it was easy). I'd imagine if you are level 30-40 it would be much easier. I'm at 21 I think.

I also couldn't find any hole in the elevators (tried both from Firelink Shrine). Maybe there's another? (Looking back I see it was the one from the Parish church to Firelink - that's the dual elevator shaft, right? I didn't see any place to roll out of on that - went up and down several times. But sometimes it is one side or the other - maybe only one works?)

I did find the ladder in upper Blighttown though. I had been in that exact spot and this time I saw the "Climb Down" prompt. Probably there was a stupid message there before or something. I think there was, actually and it just said something stupid like "Try ranged attack". I didn't even know what it was refering to - but it blocked the ladder prompt.

In any case, I went down there, found nothing, and got some sort of toxic condition from some dart spitters (even though I held my shield up). I died because I couldn't recover from that. Then when I went back down to recover the 1500+ souls I left there I fell down the elevator shaft because I forgot that it was down at the bottom. So I gave up on that. Now I'm just going to grind some levels and maybe try to get summoned, though that wasn't happening earlier this evening when I played.
 
[quote name='io']What level are you at? No way I can kill those dogs in one hit. At least I can't kill the ones outside in one hit and I assume the ones inside are at least as tough. I have a lot less health and stamina than the screen shots in the Gamespot guide (where they said it was easy). I'd imagine if you are level 30-40 it would be much easier. I'm at 21 I think.

I also couldn't find any hole in the elevators (tried both from Firelink Shrine). Maybe there's another? (Looking back I see it was the one from the Parish church to Firelink - that's the dual elevator shaft, right? I didn't see any place to roll out of on that - went up and down several times. But sometimes it is one side or the other - maybe only one works?)

I did find the ladder in upper Blighttown though. I had been in that exact spot and this time I saw the "Climb Down" prompt. Probably there was a stupid message there before or something. I think there was, actually and it just said something stupid like "Try ranged attack". I didn't even know what it was refering to - but it blocked the ladder prompt.

In any case, I went down there, found nothing, and got some sort of toxic condition from some dart spitters (even though I held my shield up). I died because I couldn't recover from that. Then when I went back down to recover the 1500+ souls I left there I fell down the elevator shaft because I forgot that it was down at the bottom. So I gave up on that. Now I'm just going to grind some levels and maybe try to get summoned, though that wasn't happening earlier this evening when I played.[/QUOTE]

Dogs: You can one shot them with the drake sword.

Elevator: Yes, the one that goes up to the Undead Parish church. Walk in the elevator and then immediately turn around to face toward the entrance. The elevator will go up a few feet and there will be a broken roof in front of you, step out onto it.

Toxic: Yes, it sucks. To survive it better, you probably need the spider shield from the Depths. Although, you don't need to go toward where the darts are being thrown, there are more ladders going down, and if you make it quick enough you should live.
 
[quote name='IRHari']Once you get to +2 you haev to OPEN the door, like go up to it and hit X to open it. It won't automatically open.

Once you leave it stays open.

I HIGHLY recommend opening it in your first playthrough, as it leads to a respawning Titanite Demon where you can farm unlimited Demon Titanite, since he always drops 2.

Yeah I just joined Covenants to get the items. Only ones I have left are Sunlight and Darkwraith, I messed up Darkwraith by placing the Lordvessel even though I didn't talk to Frampt. He got pissed anyway and ran away forever.[/QUOTE]

fuck, I just left that covenant because I searched and they said as soon as the shortcut is opened, it stays opened. I didn't know you had to go open the door yourself. Well, hopefully it only takes me one humanity like it did for the other guy.

As for the Darkwraith covenant, that's how you get it. You're supposed to place the Lordvessel without talking to Frampt. Kaathe is the one that gives the covenant.

[quote name='IRHari']Eh fuck it, I'm gonna rubber band this shit and go to sleep, wake up at 792. Wasn't having a hard time with the game, but I maxxed that shit in Demon's Souls, wouldn't feel right to not do it in Dark Souls too.[/QUOTE]

Uhhh, what? How does glitching your way to 792 feel any more "right" than not having your character maxed out?
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Dogs: You can one shot them with the drake sword.

Elevator: Yes, the one that goes up to the Undead Parish church. Walk in the elevator and then immediately turn around to face toward the entrance. The elevator will go up a few feet and there will be a broken roof in front of you, step out onto it.

Toxic: Yes, it sucks. To survive it better, you probably need the spider shield from the Depths. Although, you don't need to go toward where the darts are being thrown, there are more ladders going down, and if you make it quick enough you should live.[/QUOTE]

OK, made lots of progress tonight. First I'll start with the elevator - found the ledge, rolled onto the opposing building, got the asylum key... But... when I go to the raven's nest and "curl up in a ball" nothing happens. How do you get him to take you back to the asylum?

As for Capra Demon, I beat him the easy way - summoned someone. I happened to be in human form because I was trying to kindle all the bonfires I had seen so far. I had also beaten the lightning demon and found the hidden bonfire in Darkroot Garden. With the summon, I had a way easier battle with Capra since the other person took the attention of the dogs right at the beginning - I still almost got killed right away, though, but had time to recover without being mauled constantly. Then I went to fight the butcher and some bastard invaded my game and pounced on me while I was in the middle of that fight. I totally hate that shit. Then, once I found the bonfire in the depths, I summoned someone there who showed me where that barrel dude was. Then he started leading me towards the boss I guess. But then we got invaded again and out of nowhere someone almost one-shot me with some lightning weapon. A second hit came before I even realized what was happening and I was dead. Again, VERY VERY annoying and I wish invading was not part of the game.

But here's the thing, isn't there something to keep the levels equivalent? Clearly this guy was way further along than me. I compared trophies afterwards and he has several more for getting further in the game. He also has the lightning and raw weapon upgrade trophies and I haven't even seen how to upgrade things with anything beyond the standard upgrade yet. So clearly the guy is a lot further along. On the other hand, I was grinding some levels to try Capra by myself so maybe I pushed myself up to where some other people who have much better weapons are at. Sucks because I'd like to use Solaire at least and I don't want some fuckwad invading me while I'm trying to get that stuff done :bomb:.

On the plus side, I enjoy very much helping people. I managed to get summoned a second time into the gargoyle fight and this time the guy summoned Solaire as well and he lived with the 3 of us fighting. So I got a medal out of that at least (he died when I summoned him by myself).

As for the Toxic area, I just found that Spider Shield, as well as the heavy crossbow which Jodou mentions in his walkthrough.

I am really confused by The Depths, though. I'm not entirely sure where the boss fight is. I think I've found 2 different white mist doors. Could that be the case or is it the same one I just got to from different paths?
 
Never, ever go into the area in the Painted world with the Pinwheels when you are semi-distracted. :) I will say quick, but not painless. Got to clear that out tonight and then kill the lady. The Undead Dragon was easy. How is it again that you are to clear the rest of the body from the bridge? I thought it was a two-handed heavy attack, which did not work for me.
 
[quote name='io']Yeah. I'm aware of that, but, still, it would be nice to have one line about the next step in there. Something simple like "Go through white mist, fight Capra Demon". We should also add that entire thing to the OP (which I can do). If you want to add/update anything on there (like maybe the Solaire/altar thing at least), I can then post the whole thing to the OP so it is easier to find.[/QUOTE]
I get where you're coming from, but I only view it as a checklist of things to do in an area before moving on. The guide is complete, already updated with any changes you guys brought up so you can do w/e you want with it.[quote name='IRHari']Eh fuck it, I'm gonna rubber band this shit and go to sleep, wake up at 792. Wasn't having a hard time with the game, but I maxxed that shit in Demon's Souls, wouldn't feel right to not do it in Dark Souls too.[/QUOTE]
Err, just so you know it caps at 1 billion souls and that's not even close to enough for max level.[quote name='Brainberry']Only thing you will achieve is lack of pvp

I did this and had to start over because there is not a lot of pvp's at max level

99 is the sweet spot.[/QUOTE]
Bullshit. I capped level and had MORE PvP just walking around Anor Londo than ever before.
 
[quote name='io']But here's the thing, isn't there something to keep the levels equivalent? Clearly this guy was way further along than me.[/QUOTE]
Haha, about that. Yeah, just about everyone knows that covenant PvP is broken due to no level cap placed on who can invade. It's also why people who innocently invade me at low levels get wrecked since I'm maxed.

You sure are getting stuck a lot Io lol. I wouldn't start straying from the path too much because chances are you're just going to have to revisit later. You have the right idea with allocating stats though. I would pump VIT to 20 and no more than that until NG+, then dump almost everything else into END. Outside of that, just pump stats for weapon/spell requirements. 18 Faith is a good goal for Homeward and Heal TBH. From there go STR or INT pending what type of character you want. DEX is useless, don't even waste points unless you want to be ranged (but that's no fun). Same with resist; it's like the LUCK modifier of Demon's Souls where nobody wastes points in it. I would put a point or three into attunement though so you can store a few spells.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Never, ever go into the area in the Painted world with the Pinwheels when you are semi-distracted. :) I will say quick, but not painless. Got to clear that out tonight and then kill the lady. The Undead Dragon was easy. How is it again that you are to clear the rest of the body from the bridge? I thought it was a two-handed heavy attack, which did not work for me.[/QUOTE]

that was the only area/enemies in the Painted World that gave me trouble (well, other than the NPC black phantom, who kicked my ass). I don't think you do clear the undead dragon remains from the bridge; you end up using the lower part of the bridge later.

[quote name='Jodou']You have the right idea with allocating stats though. I would pump VIT to 20 and no more than that until NG+, then dump almost everything else into END. Outside of that, just pump stats for weapon/spell requirements. 18 Faith is a good goal for Homeward and Heal TBH. From there go STR or INT pending what type of character you want. DEX is useless, don't even waste points unless you want to be ranged (but that's no fun). Same with resist; it's like the LUCK modifier of Demon's Souls where nobody wastes points in it. I would put a point or three into attunement though so you can store a few spells.[/quote]

Regarding stats, I have pumped endurance and vitality almost exclusively (vit at 23, end at 30 right now). Attunement to 16 just for 4 slots so far, and enough strength for Drake Sword (16) and Dex for long bow and spear (14). I did get 14 faith for heal, but didn't want to waste 4 more for Homeward when the homeward bones are relatively cheap (though I've only used those twice so far I think). High Vitality is nice to avoid some 1 hit kills from monsters - you end up with just enough life to run away and heal a lot of times.

Oddly, in Demon's Souls I was a mage and pumped Int mostly. In Dark Souls, I can't even use magic yet since my Int is only 10. Dunno if I'll regret that later. I've rescued
Logan twice now
but I don't know why I bothered since I can't even learn spells from him, lol.
 
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[quote name='Kevfactor']just a question my fire keeper died somehow in fire shrine and now i cant use the bonfire there. know what happened? i guess it has something to do with that yellow knight or pvp lol.
anyways just got to ardo lodo so im going to farm about 80k souls for my spells :)[/QUOTE]
When you go into the main lobby area with the two giant knights inside the castle before entering to fight the boss, the item that the fire keeper in Firelink Shrine dropped, Black Eye Orb, will start to shake, and the way to restore the fire keeper there is to use the Black Eye Orb, that way you invade the world of that knight in the yellow armor so you can her soul back.
 
[quote name='Jodou']I get where you're coming from, but I only view it as a checklist of things to do in an area before moving on. The guide is complete, already updated with any changes you guys brought up so you can do w/e you want with it.
Err, just so you know it caps at 1 billion souls and that's not even close to enough for max level.
Bullshit. I capped level and had MORE PvP just walking around Anor Londo than ever before.[/QUOTE]
Did you invade or did someone invade you?
 
[quote name='io']OK, made lots of progress tonight. First I'll start with the elevator - found the ledge, rolled onto the opposing building, got the asylum key... But... when I go to the raven's nest and "curl up in a ball" nothing happens. How do you get him to take you back to the asylum?[/QUOTE]

You gotta stay curled up for like 20-30 secs io. After that, any other time you curl up, it will be near instant.

[quote name='io']As for Capra Demon, I beat him the easy way - summoned someone....With the summon, I had a way easier battle with Capra since the other person took the attention of the dogs right at the beginning - I still almost got killed right away, though, but had time to recover without being mauled constantly.... I happened to be in human form because I was trying to kindle all the bonfires I had seen so far.[/QUOTE]

Grats on Capra slaying, and good idea on kindling bonfires. It will come in handy later on and NG+, NG++, etc. :)

[quote name='io']Then I went to fight the butcher and some bastard invaded my game and pounced on me while I was in the middle of that fight. I totally hate that shit. Then, once I found the bonfire in the depths, I summoned someone there who showed me where that barrel dude was. Then he started leading me towards the boss I guess. But then we got invaded again and out of nowhere someone almost one-shot me with some lightning weapon. A second hit came before I even realized what was happening and I was dead. Again, VERY VERY annoying and I wish invading was not part of the game.[/QUOTE]

The only part I dislike about people invading my game is if they are way higher level than me, because then I feel like it is just futile to try. But I still try anyways ^^. An alternative io is playing offline, but that takes a lot of the fun away - reading warning messages, trying to determine which are fake, summoning strangers to help, etc.

[quote name='io']But here's the thing, isn't there something to keep the levels equivalent? Clearly this guy was way further along than me. I compared trophies afterwards and he has several more for getting further in the game.[/QUOTE]

Like Judou said - it has something to do with the Covenants, and I also think the sin/Indictment list. But I doubt you got any sort of sin/Indictment anyways since I'm pretty sure you haven't invaded anyone.


[quote name='io'] I am really confused by The Depths, though. I'm not entirely sure where the boss fight is. I think I've found 2 different white mist doors. Could that be the case or is it the same one I just got to from different paths?[/QUOTE]

The boss fight is very noticeable, you will get a real big view of the fighting area from above and go down some steps before it. Umm... Oh! There is a merchant before the boss fight, if that helps :) Not directly next to the fog, but one area before the big view of arena, there will be a merchant.

[quote name='WillThatsWho']Have to say I have finally run into an area in Dark Souls that is actually frustrating/upsetting me: New Londo Ruins. I can hit the ghosts no problem... its jsut that I can't defend against them at all. Apparently Magic Def. Shields don't help (which I'm not surprised since they aren't really using magic) but thats the only stat that I thought "might" have helped. Only other thing I can think of is Enchanting my shield via Magic Shield spell. Any advice my fellow Hollows?[/QUOTE]

Any advice?
 
[quote name='AzzidReign']Did you invade or did someone invade you?[/QUOTE]
I gave up trying to invade with the blue eye stone for reprisals because they fail no matter what level you are, so I just ran around in human form. At times I had to kill myself just so I could get something done as they were lining up to invade me lol.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']been getting invaded a lot recently. must be some sort of new glitch about since i've been backstabbed in the face about 10 times. anyone know how to do it? >:)[/QUOTE]
It's called lag. ;)
 
K, started at lvl 245, had ~830 million souls, made it up to 596.

Honestly, I can't see going past 743. Past 50 in attunement doesnt give you any more slots, and you dont gain much in terms of defenses.

I'll pump out one more Soul of Hero, since I used up my Soul of Great Hero last night.

Apparently Greatsword of Artorias has the best stat adjusts. 700 dmg.

Oh and here's praying to the Gravelord that enemies won't adjust to my level...
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']been getting invaded a lot recently. must be some sort of new glitch about since i've been backstabbed in the face about 10 times. anyone know how to do it? >:)[/QUOTE]

I've been backstabbed when the guy was 5 feet in front of me and facing away from me.
 
[quote name='Jodou']I gave up trying to invade with the blue eye stone for reprisals because they fail no matter what level you are, so I just ran around in human form. At times I had to kill myself just so I could get something done as they were lining up to invade me lol.[/QUOTE]
I don't get it, out of the 30 minutes I spent trying to invade people I was only successful 2 times, and I was in Anor Lando, and from what you're saying, people were invading you left and right, could this be my connection or just bad timing during the day?
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']I've been backstabbed when the guy was 5 feet in front of me and facing away from me.[/QUOTE]
Try fighting someone with a great sword....:roll: the lag gives them an extra 5ft of range.
 
[quote name='Jodou']
You sure are getting stuck a lot Io lol. I wouldn't start straying from the path too much because chances are you're just going to have to revisit later. You have the right idea with allocating stats though. I would pump VIT to 20 and no more than that until NG+, then dump almost everything else into END. Outside of that, just pump stats for weapon/spell requirements. 18 Faith is a good goal for Homeward and Heal TBH. From there go STR or INT pending what type of character you want. DEX is useless, don't even waste points unless you want to be ranged (but that's no fun). Same with resist; it's like the LUCK modifier of Demon's Souls where nobody wastes points in it. I would put a point or three into attunement though so you can store a few spells.[/QUOTE]

I'm not really stuck right now - was just trying to decide if I should go through the white mist while hollow or not (since I'd want to being Solaire along if it is the main boss fight). It was really late last night and didn't want to get into a whole thing, too... I know where the big open area is and where that white mist is. The thing is, I'm pretty sure I came upon another white mist down a long corridor in another section of The Depths. I would have had the stupid boss handled the first time if that invader hadn't come in right before we reached the door :bomb:. Also, is there just the one bonfire in The Depths?

As for stats, yeah, I've been pumping VIT and END. The thing is, I pumped DEX early on so I could do the winged spear thing since that was key in Demon's Souls (Moon Winged Spear). And DEX increases the attack on that (as well as bows). I liked having strong ranged attack for many things, including crystal geckos. Now that I've gotten past Capra, I'll probably go back to Fath and Attunement since I'm only 14 on Faith (eve though I bought Homeward a while ago) and only have 1 slot.

I have a question about those geckos though. I killed one early on in a tower in the castle. Then I saw one in Darkroot and, annoyingly, there was no message about it (till I got below it). I ran up and started attacking but it just disappeared below the ground. The one in the castle was easy to kill and didn't disappear very quickly at all considering I was very low level then and had to hit it several times. I remember these things being key in Demon's Souls yet I hardly see mention of them in this thread. Are they not as big a deal? Also, do they respawn once you clear certain bosses like they did in Demon's Souls? So far the first one has not come back even after I did the first Bell (plus a lot of other bosses). The open world nature of this game makes progress a little more unclear than in Demon's Souls where it was clear when you finished a section of each world because you could teleport right to the beginning of each section from the Nexus.
 
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[quote name='Jodou']
Bullshit. I capped level and had MORE PvP just walking around Anor Londo than ever before.[/QUOTE]

At cap I would get in about 3 pvp's per hour.

At 99 I get then consecutively.

I would love for cap to be able to get 30-40 pvp's per hour so I can use different weapons but it doesn't.

Also @ max cap I always had more luck getting into pvp's at kiln of first flame.
 
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