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[quote name='jkam']Everyone in this thread is in denial. All 3 big companies will kneel before the new Atari Console. It's being code named Atari 2600 X 100,000,000. It's going to have HD Asteroids and a sequel to Laser Blast. There are also rumors of backwards compatibility.[/quote]

Yea and there's sequels for Trevor McFur, Kasumi Ninja, and Cyber Morph coming too.
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[quote name='Foolman']Don't listen to Reality Fringe! His view is biased because he has removed the "Non-bias avatar" avatar and has replaced it with a Nintendo related avatar!

On that note, please ignore my signature.[/QUOTE]

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I am objective all the time. READ THE SIG! ...
 
No one is going anywhere. Here are the breakdowns.

Sony has its electronics to back the gaming division if it were to tank. Sony right now has the most users. 1 in 4 households have a playstation.

Microsoft has 85% of the PC market. Also they have all of the other software and some hardware.

Nintendo is huge in Japan they're not going anywhere. Did you see the post on their profits?

Also xbox gets no love in Japan. Its a trade-off. No one is going anywhere and I don't see anyone joining the big three in competition.
 
:roll: You obviously didnt read my first post.



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[quote name='Graystone']No one is going anywhere. Here are the breakdowns.

Sony has its electronics to back the gaming division if it were to tank. Sony right now has the most users. 1 in 4 households have a playstation.

Microsoft has 85% of the PC market. Also they have all of the other software and some hardware.

Nintendo is huge in Japan they're not going anywhere. Did you see the post on their profits?

Also xbox gets no love in Japan. Its a trade-off. No one is going anywhere and I don't see anyone joining the big three in competition.[/quote]
 
[quote name='jkam']Everyone in this thread is in denial. All 3 big companies will kneel before the new Atari Console. It's being code named Atari 2600 X 100,000,000. It's going to have HD Asteroids and a sequel to Laser Blast. There are also rumors of backwards compatibility.[/QUOTE] Are you in some kind of hallucination or what?!? IMO it's not even comparable to those three major consoles.:roll:


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[quote name='Graystone']No one is going anywhere. Here are the breakdowns.

Sony has its electronics to back the gaming division if it were to tank. Sony right now has the most users. 1 in 4 households have a playstation.

Microsoft has 85% of the PC market. Also they have all of the other software and some hardware.

Nintendo is huge in Japan they're not going anywhere. Did you see the post on their profits?

Also xbox gets no love in Japan. Its a trade-off. No one is going anywhere and I don't see anyone joining the big three in competition.[/QUOTE]

Oooh good post.

I'm big in Japan too :cool:
 
[quote name='Strell']Lots of things wrong with this post, but this was the most glaring. Ninty still makes a profit on the Gamecube's sales, hardware and software included.

The same cannot be said for Sony or Microsoft.

It's a simple concept, really, I'm always astounded by people not understanding it.[/QUOTE]

Don't be silly. Sony has reaped US$Billions on the PS2. So much so that on several occasions when the video game operations were the sole source of net revenues in a quarter, they were sufficient to show positive net revenue for the entire company. This is one of the reasons SCE in all its regional forms was folded back into the parent company. for a while it showed stunningly good profits but the rest of Sony, except for the movie business if you caught them in a good quarter, was deep in the red. Having the games folded back in made the company as a whole look better.

This is in spite of longtime subsidies of the hardware costs and $Billions spent in PS3 and other products' R&D. After the current model PS2 paid off its development costs, its COGS (cost of good sold) fell well below the $150 SRP. Sony could drop the price at any time without loss but has no motive to do so because it just keeps selling.

The reasons for Microsoft's losses are well documented. It wasn't for lack of sales of either hardware or software but rather that structure of their supply agreements with a certain chip company acting as a vendor rather than a designer. That no longer applies in the Xbox 360 parts list. It should also be noted that Microsoft's Entertainemnt Division includes some large investments in areas not related to their video game business and add considerably to that division's losses.

The biggest fallacy that prevents people from being able to discuss this in any depth is the idea there can only be winners and losers. None of the companies need to wipe another from the video game business to reap great profits. They just need to have their own house in order. Nearly all of the great failures in this field were caused more by internal issues than any act by competitors. The competition just did what they saw as best for their products and let the other guys be their own worst enemy. For instance, if Nokia's decision to ship the N*gage with the incredibly brain damaged game-card-under-the-battery design was due to influence by a competing firm, that would be one of the most amazing feats of industrial espionage ever achieved.
 
[quote name='thamaster24']I guess I will be counted as a jerk, for only trying to show all the others, it takes one to know one I guess, but I wasn't talking about you as you made no bad posts here, BUT who cares if I make a 6 month old topic come back up again, in the future someone will probably post something exactly like this, anyway this thread DOES like I said before need to be Locked or Deleted! Or no one could have said anything to me this could have been on page 40,000 by Thursday. But since you said I'm a jerk, I should take a shot at your avatar[/QUOTE]

Personally, I think the trolling flamebaiting user should be deleted, but maybe that's just me.
 
[quote name='Deadpool']You mean a handfull of fans. I think its safe to say that SEGA did the wisest thing they could do to keep thier company in business. They don't know how to run a console correctly, and just need to focus on making good games, which they havent even been doing that right lately.[/QUOTE]

If you mean the market end I agree but specswise they know. Sega just can't market worth shit and they kept at the loss model for a game company which is idiotic.
 
There's one MAJOR "X" factor in this debate and that is:
Will Microsoft publish Nintendo Ds games?
They've already allowed a number of there games(age of empires,mechassault,zoo keeper) to be published for it so they're headed in that direction.


It wouldn't surprise me if they made that announcement at E3.
 
[quote name='Graystone']Sony has its electronics to back the gaming division if it were to tank. Sony right now has the most users. 1 in 4 households have a playstation.
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Today's random fact, pulled straight from his ass is brought to you by Graystone.
 
[quote name='thamaster24'] We already know (hopefully not the case) that nintendo will probably be out first. [/QUOTE]

Quoted for ignorance.

Nintendo's making tons of money. All three companies are here to stay. Sony needs to shake things up though if they want to stay number one. Microsoft isn't going anywhere.
 
it's simple...it'll be the same thing for years to come. Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony....ever heard of them?.yup that's why they are still around. I will continue to buy from all 3 companies if they still continue to sell what i like.

xbox 360-owns me
Nintendo DS-owns me
Sony HDTV- owns me

go player hate somebody else.
 
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