Do you watch anime?

Ugh resorting to HKs is the worst thing you can do, all you're doing is supporting pirates who use copyrighted material to make a profit. Best thing is to resort to fansubs which have FAR better, non babelfish translations and usually feature neat typesetting and karaoke.
 
Granted you can get a good high quality fansub. I just recently got SF2 subbed a couple of months ago, and the only reason I got the HK dvd of it was because my Raw VHS tape snapped on me one day, and I prefer watching it Raw over the shitty dub they released.

And with the exception of the lack of Karaoke for all the songs in the Macross 7 sets I have (and a few typigraphical errors), the subs are terrific.

Besides, the Macross 7's are only here until I can get Nando to hunt me down the reg2 boxset that's out of print. Then I'll go back to fansubs and Raw again, like I used to.
 
besides, alot of the pirates now are either using the fan sub scripts or straight out porting the fansubs themself onto the dvds (case in point, AonE's Naruto subs are on an HK set out, credits and all). Once I get my Raw Mac7 sets, I won't feel guilty.

Like I said, I only do that for dire emergencies.
 
Your on a online message board, OF COURSE WE ALL WATCH ANIME! Just kidding, anyways yeah I do watch Anime. I fell in love with anime back when Akria released, that movie blew my mind and I haven't looked back yet. I love anime for the simple fact that it blurs the line between 2D and real world acting. when an anime series is good you don't even notice it's a 2D hand drawn cartoon and you take the human emotion and characteristics with you as if they were flesh and blood actors in a movie (If the series is good that is). Anime is by far one my favorite forms of entertainment, 2nd only to gaming.
 
[quote name='Ziv_Zulander']Ugh resorting to HKs is the worst thing you can do, all you're doing is supporting pirates who use copyrighted material to make a profit. Best thing is to resort to fansubs which have FAR better, non babelfish translations and usually feature neat typesetting and karaoke.[/QUOTE]

Fansubs are just as bad as buying pirated DVDs (I realize many of you may hate me for that but it's the truth), you are technically taking the copyrighted show without paying a cent for it to the owners of those rights. There's just as many bad fansubs as there bad dubs. Also fansubs are no better than studio translations anymore really, this 8-10 years ago you could've made that point, but the time has passed.
 
[quote name='ryoga79']I was a fansub guy back when we had to send off $20 to some guy out of state, wait 2 months for 3 VHS tapes, and pray they were watchable. I think I have close to 300 or 400 vhs tapes that are JUST fansub, then a good 150 MASTER vhs tapes, I think about 100 or more Master dvds, crap I've downloaded, etc.etc.etc.

You kids today. Why, I remember when $34.95 bought you a subbed vhs tape of Ranma with TWO episodes on it. that's right, TWO.[/QUOTE]


That brings back a lot of memories of me stealing my older brothers tap's back when i was younger.
 
the purpose of a fansub is to tide you over until said series is released in your language and/or country and you can buy it. after release, the ethical thing to do is destroy it. I do that after I buy it, that or pass it along to someone else until they buy it.

And not all fansubs are good. Just look at Anime-Junkies *shudders* and some of the typeface and font are HORRID (like Hawk's Steamboy).

I think that ADV actually used the exact fansub script that AonE did for Blue Seed 2, but don't quote me on that. ^_^
 
[quote name='Ziv_Zulander']Actually, most fansubbers stop subbing and distribution after a show has been licensed in the US.[/QUOTE]

All due respect but that's crap...Certain groups stop fansubbing new episodes, but the ones they've done can usually be downloaded in one manner or another. Naruot for one was apparently licensed back in Feburary, but if you search hard enough you can download a fansubbed episode. Besides do you think that once it's licensed in North America that everyone deletes if from their computers? No matter what excuse you come up with you can't argue that it doesn't potentially hinder sales. And finally, it doesn't matter licensed or not you are still downloading copyrighted material illegally. The differnce the Japanese copyright don't care so long as it's distrubuted in the states because they won't make any money til someone acquires the North American rights. However, many groups will just place it on the net not caring you downloads it from what region.


Edit: Now from this rant I don't mean to pass judgement on anyone who may use fansubs. I personally don't download them, but I'd probably be lying if every anime episode I watched was totally "legal". If someone invites me over to watch something or such I don't really ask where it comes from so I really don't care if you chose to use them, I don't find it to be morally wrong or any of that garbage, but I just wanted to point out that it can have more than one negative effects on animation industry so to speak.
 
I never found one that I like. However never saw one that I liked I am a big whore of a good story with no Continuity problems and that is hard to find in anything nowadays.
 
I have to agree with Zion. Other than MSNBC and CNN and other news networks (mostly at work) I watch Anime. Be it on Satellite or DVD. I have more Anime than anything else dvd wise (220+ dvds).
 
[quote name='ryoga79']the purpose of a fansub is to tide you over until said series is released in your language and/or country and you can buy it. after release, the ethical thing to do is destroy it. I do that after I buy it, that or pass it along to someone else until they buy it.

And not all fansubs are good. Just look at Anime-Junkies *shudders* and some of the typeface and font are HORRID (like Hawk's Steamboy).

I think that ADV actually used the exact fansub script that AonE did for Blue Seed 2, but don't quote me on that. ^_^[/QUOTE]

I'll download something to see if I like it. If so, I'll keep it until I can get it on DVD.

Pretty much the same deal with music. If I like it, I'll buy it.
 
The only thing I have downloaded in regards to anime is Battle Programmer Shirase which hasn't been licensed yet (and is hilarious IMO).

I do download LOTS of anime music vids and have even made a few myself.
 
I DL a lot of it, buy the stuff I like later when I can. I NEVER find good anime deals on stuff I like, and I'm a poorass gamer, so I can't buy much.
 
I am an otaku of anime. I will rule you all with my Japanese language skills, vast knowledge of Japanese animations, and ever so damn cute plushies from Suncoast. I scream and act out animes I see and say how much they rock and annoy the shit outta everyone and make them hate it as well. I watch little kids in disgust who act it out.

Anyways away from that kind of stuff. Yes I watch anime. And I never find too many endings to be satisfying...
 
[quote name='1SwtDeception']I am an otaku of anime. I will rule you all with my Japanese language skills, vast knowledge of Japanese animations, and ever so damn cute plushies from Suncoast. I scream and act out animes I see and say how much they rock and annoy the shit outta everyone and make them hate it as well. I watch little kids in disgust who act it out.

Anyways away from that kind of stuff. Yes I watch anime. And I never find too many endings to be satisfying...[/QUOTE]

You rule me for the Faye image alone...:drool:
 
Oh HELL no. I won't bring up Man-Faye. That wasn't even funny, it was just digusting. If someone is going to crossplay it doesn't bother me as long as it is done right.
 
I only download Naruto just because it not availiable to u.s. yet..otherwise ill buy it..i like hellsing, love hina, inuyasha, samuari x, and tons more..i hate cartoon network the strip anime of it originality...
 
[quote name='dcfox']That is an affront to God. :puke:[/QUOTE]

It's more than that. It's an affront to ugly hirsute ppl as well. :puke:
 
[quote name='Duo_Maxwell']All due respect but that's crap...Certain groups stop fansubbing new episodes, but the ones they've done can usually be downloaded in one manner or another. Naruot for one was apparently licensed back in Feburary, but if you search hard enough you can download a fansubbed episode. Besides do you think that once it's licensed in North America that everyone deletes if from their computers? No matter what excuse you come up with you can't argue that it doesn't potentially hinder sales. And finally, it doesn't matter licensed or not you are still downloading copyrighted material illegally. The differnce the Japanese copyright don't care so long as it's distrubuted in the states because they won't make any money til someone acquires the North American rights. However, many groups will just place it on the net not caring you downloads it from what region.


Edit: Now from this rant I don't mean to pass judgement on anyone who may use fansubs. I personally don't download them, but I'd probably be lying if every anime episode I watched was totally "legal". If someone invites me over to watch something or such I don't really ask where it comes from so I really don't care if you chose to use them, I don't find it to be morally wrong or any of that garbage, but I just wanted to point out that it can have more than one negative effects on animation industry so to speak.[/QUOTE]


And I could just as easily say that fansubs don't hinder sales but infact they HELP sales in the US due to people being able to check out certain series. If fansubs hurting sales were that much of a problem then more companies would send letters asking fansubbers to stop much like what Media Factory did.
 
I totally forgot where I saw or heard this, it may have been on NPR, but some person in the Anime industry was saying that they loved Fan-subs, because it's like free advertising. They used Naruto as an example-- it's a hit in the U.S. and it hasn't even been released yet.

Anyway, I was wondering about Inuyasha-- is that one of those shows you have to see from the begining to understand? I've seen like 10 episodes on Adult swim, but I'm usually dumbfounded the whole time. Also, the dubs on that show really turn me off, seems like it would be better wth subs.
 
Inuyasha has a long story arc so it helps to get in on the ground floor. The dubs are great if only to listen to that lecherous Miroku say "Would you bear my children?" to every attractive female he sees. Hilarious!
 
I dunno...I personally like the dubbed voices in Inuyasha a hell of a lot more than the subbed voices. The voices in the sub just don't feel right. Might be cause I've seen the dub for most of the show.
 
[quote name='Ziv_Zulander']And I could just as easily say that fansubs don't hinder sales but infact they HELP sales in the US due to people being able to check out certain series. If fansubs hurting sales were that much of a problem then more companies would send letters asking fansubbers to stop much like what Media Factory did.[/QUOTE]

That's a statement that was been paraded around by fansubbers forever and it's never really been proven. It may create extra buzz but only because there arent any popular networks that really show anime besides one or two hours a day on CN. There's even example that show the opposite result of what you mentioned. Bandai attributed low sales of their First Gundam DVD partially to fansubbing and there was a crackdown on unauthorized Gundam material at many conventions. ADV found their early volumes of Cat Girl Nuku Nuku selling below expectations despite the fact it was always a popularly traded fansub title. Of course the final volumes which were not widely fansubbed saw an increase in sales. I'll admit some professionals in the industry see it as a blessing and some do not. Many of the letters that are sent out will go ignored or the group will quit offical work on it but continue under a false group and disturbute it in some other manner. Then there are completed ones before licensing that get traded over P2P filesharing netowrks like Kazaa by other users. Much like the music industry they can scramble to try and stop it, but they know they can't really ever completely stop it because they can only do something once they've obtain the license anyhow and while I don't know the percantage I do know that a solid number of groups (usually bad ones) are operating in nations that don't adhere to international copyright laws anyways.

In the end, like I said, I don't really care who does it and who doesn't. And while I personally believe it hinders sales at least some, I can see the other side of the argument too. I took your original claim to mean that fansubs were somehow more legal or authorized than bootlegs, but that's not at all correct. And for every fansub group that "plays by the rules" so to speak, there's another that doesn't...
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Die, freak.

I hate otakus.[/QUOTE]

I will kill you with my knowledge of DBZ attacks all in Japanese. (insert that evil devil looking face here---no clue on how to make those faces) KAMEMAMEHA! BUKUJUTSU! .. SEXY NO JUTSU.. ok yea.... anyways.

Guile you make some of those AMV? Interesting what kinda music do you use? Just curious.

edit: Also to the post above.. yea there's an anime channel called Anime Network.
 
[quote name='jam3582']isnt there an anime channel im wondering how is that ? do they show old stuff or just really obscure anime[/QUOTE]

There's the Anime Network, I'm not able to get it because like many cable companies, mine doesn't carry it. But I do believe it runs mostly (if not entirely) on ADV owned titles both older and recent.
 
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