Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies - For Liquid Metal we would Slime!

Took me about an hour, but I managed to steal enough Slime Crowns from King Cureslimes (Metal Kings carry them too, but run too fast to be worth trying to steal from) to upgrade a full set of Metal King gear. Now I just need to find the rest of it..
 
[quote name='bvharris']I need to expand the grottos I'm running to try to get the rank S weapons I need. I have the boomerang, the bow, and got the hammer last night, but I don't use any of those weapons and don't really feel like switching. Hopefully I'll find them eventually.[/QUOTE]

Boomerangs are awesome. I don't have a falcon blade yet.. my best weapon is a 115 damage axe.. i think... and my best boomerang is some 50 or 60 damage thing. With a normal attack, my boomerang guy will hit the primary target for ~150-175, while the axe hits for maybe 200-230. If I'm fighting groups of at least two enemies, my boomerang user hits harder than anyone else in my party.

when I'm level 99, that may change... but you can switch weapon sets in battle, so against bosses I shift him to another weapon. For killing enemies for drops or gold, I less-than three boomerangs.
 
I use the boomerang as a secondary weapon on my Ranger (her primary is an axe) for just that reason. They're not that useful against bosses or Platinum King Jewels though, so I don't want to bother using orbs or agates to upgrade the S rank boomerang until I've upgraded everything else.
 
[quote name='adriley313']Whats the Kawsaki Lockers?
Is it a map or something?
thx a bunch[/QUOTE]
"kawasaki lockers" is a famous japanese map, it was first distributed in a train station in kawasaki

i think are 3 A-rank chests and 4 S-rank chests.

people have figured out the spawn timing for it so you can get whatever A/S-rank item you want out of them.

i don't know where the list is to determine what rank a chest is.
 
[quote name='botticus']You must have had a lot more Reckless Necklaces than I have. :lol:

Monarchic marks require lucky pendants, and the marks are used for at least half a dozen recipes. I think I did use my only one to make a Goddess Ring or something else. That said, at that point you're more looking for equipment that looks better than has improved stats, so it's not like they're important to acquire.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='bvharris']I made all the royal gear (with Monarchic Marks) but by the time I did I already had much better stuff. It's not bad (and it looks nice) but I'm not sure it's worth wasting all your Lucky Pendants.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, so see, this is why I asked ;). I already have a Goddess Ring (got it from a chest or drop - I didn't make it), so I guess I'll hold off on that. I made one Reckless Necklace into a Lucky Pendant last night and I actually just equipped that. I think I was still missing another ingredient to make the Monarchic Mark.

I did manage to steal a couple of Sage's Ashes from the Sanguini things you guys mentioned. That was easy enough. Of course, I also got about 6 Prayer Rings in the process ;). So, yeah, those aren't the limiting factors I guess. I also got another Reckless Necklace from the DQVC last night after having one the night before as well! So I'll keep checking that each night this week for sure. So I had 3 in total. My Ranger is using the Unhappy Hat I found afew days ago. I think I could use Saint's Ashes to make that a Happy Hat which I assume has better stats (though the Unhappy one is the best thing I have now).

After going through part of the new Realm of the Almighty last night I stopped short of what appeared to be a miniboss and went and switched my Mage to a Sage and my MA to a thief. The former is probably a permanent move (though I guess I lose useful stuff like Oomph when I do that). The latter is so that I can have two characters that can steal. It seemed like a waste when I just had one stealing and the other 3 defending on those Sanguinis.

[quote name='BattleChicken']Boomerangs are awesome. I don't have a falcon blade yet.. my best weapon is a 115 damage axe.. i think... and my best boomerang is some 50 or 60 damage thing. With a normal attack, my boomerang guy will hit the primary target for ~150-175, while the axe hits for maybe 200-230. If I'm fighting groups of at least two enemies, my boomerang user hits harder than anyone else in my party.

when I'm level 99, that may change... but you can switch weapon sets in battle, so against bosses I shift him to another weapon. For killing enemies for drops or gold, I less-than three boomerangs.[/QUOTE]

See, now I didn't know you could switch weapons. I've just been using Boomerang, Claws, Wand, and Spear as my main (and only) weapons. It does suck when fighting metal slimes as I pretty much need to get lucky with criticals to kill them. But skill points have been in such short supply I can't imagine training up a second weapon - I don't have the class skills or main weapons at 100 yet for any of my chars!
 
[quote name='doctorfaustus']Thanks.
Bummer, I prefer when a party is made up of characters that either have their own plots or are part of the main story. I'm not too crazy about wandering around with a group of random/one-dimensional characters.

Having said that, I am really liking this game. I just beat the second "boss" and can't put the game down, even in the face of a tremendous back[/QUOTE]

I named by random characters after dq characters from former games! :) Plenty of back story... ;)
 
[quote name='io']Yeah, so see, this is why I asked ;). I already have a Goddess Ring (got it from a chest or drop - I didn't make it), so I guess I'll hold off on that. [/quote]
I made 3 more Goddess Rings because when I was MKS hunting and using crit-or-miss skills, I didn't want to go back to the inn. So I gave everyone in my party Goddess Rings. =)

There are other items that do that though.
 
[quote name='kainzero']I made 3 more Goddess Rings because when I was MKS hunting and using crit-or-miss skills, I didn't want to go back to the inn. So I gave everyone in my party Goddess Rings. =)

There are other items that do that though.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha, I guess that is the one that regens MP? I have that on my Paladin now and with MP-athy (or whatever cute name they gave it) I can just let her regen, then spread the wealth ;).

What are the crit-or-miss skills? I think I am missing all of those, but might want to class switch just to get them. I lucked out on one MKS but have not been able to kill any more (or even the liquid metal ones) since then.
 
The crit-or-miss skills are Thunder Thrust on Spears and Hatchet Man on Axes.

When I started, I had one person on Spears so she picked up Thunder Thrust "naturally." Everyone else, I waited till post game to give it to all of them. It's very worth it to get them ASAP.
 
I think my Gladiator is going to learn Ax abilities, once I'm done with the Gladiator skill tree. After he's got 100 on there, I'm switching him to the speed classes to up his agility and such. That won't be until post game.
 
[quote name='io']
You know, I felt this way at first, too, but after a while I really started to like having my own characters. You can control what they are completely and you don't have to worry about them coming and going like in previous games (when you'd lose a character due to a story event and were never sure you'd ever get them back). So you can invest in each one and not worry about what might happen to them. Don't worry, you'll have the faerie for the chatter ;). By the way, that smart-ass mouthed off at me last night about wasting time "boosting my level" and maybe if I hadn't done that we could have saved
Aquila
. I thought that was pretty funny. So far the end-game bosses have been pretty damn easy, so I guess I did boost a fair amount (3 of my chars are level 40-45 now, with just my recently-acquired Paladin under 30). I'd like to get the Sage unlocked before the end but I may just finish up and do that afterwards.[/QUOTE]

I guess I'm just spoiled by having played Final Fantasy III; every party member in that game had some sort of backstory. Don't they say that you remember your first love? Well, I guess you also remember your first great RPG.


[quote name='super_dawn']I named by random characters after dq characters from former games! :) Plenty of back story... ;)[/QUOTE]

Lol. That might work.
 
[quote name='doctorfaustus']
I guess I'm just spoiled by having played Final Fantasy III; every party member in that game had some sort of backstory. Don't they say that you remember your first love? Well, I guess you also remember your first great RPG.
[/quote]

Could be. My first "RPG" was probably one of the early Might & Magic games on the original Mac. Or if you want to go before that, the text-based games Adventure and Zork ;). So I guess I'm used to being any and all characters myself.

[quote name='kainzero']The crit-or-miss skills are Thunder Thrust on Spears and Hatchet Man on Axes.

When I started, I had one person on Spears so she picked up Thunder Thrust "naturally." Everyone else, I waited till post game to give it to all of them. It's very worth it to get them ASAP.[/QUOTE]

D'oh - OK, I've had someone on Spears since the very beginning. I've either not gotten that yet (seems unlikely) or I just never noticed it or paid any attention to what it was.
 
Killing 50 mobs with no equipment on level 10 of a grotto was actually easier than I expected. My level 40+ characters were still doing 50-100 damage per hit and took a bit more damage when attacked, but nothing a quick Multiheal every few fights couldn't fix.

I think the Rank 5 chests in this dungeon are the best I've encountered so far (level 60 grotto). Another Muscle Belt! :/
 
[quote name='botticus']Killing 50 mobs with no equipment on level 10 of a grotto...[/QUOTE]

Why on earth would you do that? Is it a quest?
 
I try to name my guys after cartoon characters. Rock Lee and Aang.

I have a bunch of Skull Rings and Reckless Necklaces this week.
This is a very good week.
 
[quote name='adriley313']I try to name my guys after cartoon characters. Rock Lee and Aang.

I have a bunch of Skull Rings and Reckless Necklaces this week.
This is a very good week.[/QUOTE]

fuck you, I haven't gotten shit this week.
 
haha
I need the pants for the Skull outfit and the Thug stuff.
I just have the Muscle Belt and the Thug's Mug.

Anyone find some of the outfits very naughty.
The Bustier and the muscle belt looks very S&M
 
[quote name='adriley313']haha
I need the pants for the Skull outfit and the Thug stuff.
I just have the Muscle Belt and the Thug's Mug.

Anyone find some of the outfits very naughty.
The Bustier and the muscle belt looks very S&M[/QUOTE]

:lol: Well, for a long time my male Mage was wearing a Fizzle-retardant suit (really a very small, revealing vest) and some sort of power undies along with the wrap-around shades from the DQVC a few weeks back. Those were simply the best things I had stat-wise. But it did make him look like he was right out of a gay pride parade or something - just sayin' ;).

Now that he's switched to a Sage (I seem to be doing the exact same thing as you Craven_fiend) he can wear some less revealing (and more importantly, more protective/stat boosting) suits of armor.
 
[quote name='io']:lol: Well, for a long time my male Mage was wearing a Fizzle-retardant suit (really a very small, revealing vest) and some sort of power undies along with the wrap-around shades from the DQVC a few weeks back. Those were simply the best things I had stat-wise. But it did make him look like he was right out of a gay pride parade or something - just sayin' ;).

Now that he's switched to a Sage (I seem to be doing the exact same thing as you Craven_fiend) he can wear some less revealing (and more importantly, more protective/stat boosting) suits of armor.[/QUOTE]

I am so close to 40, my cut off before switching, with my Mage. Once I hit 40 and get the quest from Alltrades, I am switching to a Sage.
 
Found my grotto that I couldn't earlier. Funny thing is I had gotten another one in the same exact spot but a different level, so that made me even more determined to find it. It wasn't where I thought it'd be, not real obvious anyway. I grinded about 6 grottos last night.
 
I'm early in the game and kind of poor. Should I save up to get the skull stuff from this week, or don't bother? Also, is all of the stuff
cursed?
 
[quote name='io']Why on earth would you do that? Is it a quest?[/QUOTE]
100 point Fisticuffs!

[quote name='pete5883']I'm early in the game and kind of poor. Should I save up to get the skull stuff from this week, or don't bother? Also, is all of the stuff
cursed?
[/QUOTE]
Not sure about the latter, but the stats seem pretty good (one of the three was an upgrade for my level 70 character), so if it might be worth buying a piece or two. I'd be surprised if its really needed for anything else though, generally just for show.
 
I couldn't afford all the thug and skeleton stuff so I just didn't worry about it. I did get a reckless necklace, though, just based on the comments here.
 
Skull Ring is cursed.
But my Priest knows Bendiction so it was all good.
I have 4 Reckless Necklace left now after I made some stuff. Next I wanna make the Happy Hat. Time to find some genie for Saint's Ashes.

Hope I get the rest of the Skelton and Thug sets.
Would suck not to have them.
If your low on cash don't worry bout them.
But do buy the Skull Ring and Reckless Necklaces, you'll need them for alchemy.

Also for a lil quick money fight Gold Golem in the desert in Gleeba. The lil valley SE of Gleeba. Each Golem gives 500 gold. Plus the Gold Golem quest u get in Gleeba will net you 500 gold to. A lil way to earn quick cash if u don't mind hunting for them. And the Gold Golem quest is repeatable. Just leave a come back in the barracks in the SW corner of Gleeba.

Also if u have the Stone Throw skill you can score mini medals. Just repeat the quest the fancy lady gives u in front of the Mayor's house in Coffinwell.
You have to kill Treevil's with Stone Throw.
But the quest is repeatable and she gives a mini medal each time. And I need a lot of Orichamal for lots of armor and weapons.
 
I just unlocked sage last night. I changed everyone to sage, and leveled them up to 22ish, then used Jack's Knack (which is the single greatest ability, ever) to change to a semi-useful party.

I plan on leveling them up to 30ish, then switching characters around for my final party, which should be Sage, gladiator, armamentalist, and paladin.. but I'm not completely sure, just yet.
 
Beat the final boss just now. It was pretty lackluster. Paladin using Forbearance died once, right *after* his Limit Break (har har) was available so once resurrected wasn't able to use it, my Gladiator used attack with a Falcon Blade and a Ranger used Rain of Pain. Healing wasn't really an issue, and I never got to see his big magic attack that's supposed to hurt a whole lot.

All in all...pretty anti-climactic.

Now for Metal Slime hunting! YARR
 
[quote name='pete5883']I'm early in the game and kind of poor. Should I save up to get the skull stuff from this week, or don't bother? Also, is all of the stuff
cursed?
[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Backlash']I couldn't afford all the thug and skeleton stuff so I just didn't worry about it. I did get a reckless necklace, though, just based on the comments here.[/QUOTE]

Yep, definitely buy all the Reckless Necklaces you can find. I have 3 and still can't get myself to alchemize them into anything besides one Lucky Pendant since there are so many uses for them - I'm waiting to make sure I don't find more advanced gear in chests first. They are pretty cheap, too, at 3600. I bought some really expensive stuff last night. Some sort of mighty belt thing for 15,000 and skull pants, maybe, for 10,000. The Thug's Mug you will find in a red chest (I think those are all fixed, right?) towards the end of the game, so you can hold off on that if you want - though it is pretty nice equipment for early on so you may want to splurge on it anyway.

[quote name='ForeStorm']Beat the final boss just now. It was pretty lackluster. Paladin using Forbearance died once, right *after* his Limit Break (har har) was available so once resurrected wasn't able to use it, my Gladiator used attack with a Falcon Blade and a Ranger used Rain of Pain. Healing wasn't really an issue, and I never got to see his big magic attack that's supposed to hurt a whole lot.

All in all...pretty anti-climactic.

Now for Metal Slime hunting! YARR[/QUOTE]

I went back to the "Realm" last night after only exploring the lower reaches the night before. This time I thought I'd clear out all the chests and minibosses and not quite do the end. I ended up taking care of the 3 minibosses no problem but with most of my MP drained. Then, by accident, I triggered the first
fight against Corvus. I had a feeling it would be a multi-stage thing. I barely made it through the first fight - mostly just due to my lack of MP. I couldn't heal or anything. I didn't want to waste all my magic waters replenishing it, so after that first fight I evacuated and will fight what I assume is the final final boss tonight ;). Then do I finally get the ability to fly and access all those hidden areas?
.
 
[quote name='io']
Then do I finally get the ability to fly and access all those hidden areas?
.[/QUOTE]

Nope, you'll need to do a post-game quest to gain access to that. Which has a boss that's harder than the rest you've faced so far in my opinion.
 
I reflexively hit the power switch after opening up my DS from sleep mode and lost a lot of progress/alchemy stuff. :cry: Fortunately I had saved after the hours of metabble farming I was doing yesterday or I would be freaking out.

I just had to share my sadness.
 
I found a level 34 (I think?) grotto last night. The enemies in it could barely scratch me, no problem getting down to the bottom floor. Of course once I got there I was butt-raped by something called "The Traumanator." :whistle2:( I survived the first round (barely), but everyone died in the second round. Why are the floor enemies so much easier than the bosses? Geez.
 
Wait til u meet Octagoon and Darkonium Slimes.
I hate them.

With that boss try moves like Kaboom on him.
He does lots of physical damage.
Immense Defense helps out a lot.
Multiheal every turn too with Kabuff.
 
I've got a Muscle Belt in my DQVC today. Worth spending the half hour to grind up enough gold to buy it, or is it easily obtainable later?
 
I'm still debating whether or not to go to the Simons Mall event.

I don't play the game anymore, but it would be cool to get another T-shirt.
 
[quote name='pete5883']I've got a Muscle Belt in my DQVC today. Worth spending the half hour to grind up enough gold to buy it, or is it easily obtainable later?[/QUOTE]
I believe it's only otherwise attainable as a 1% chest in certain grottoes (where I got one the day after I bought it). So probably worth buying now if you plan to equip it.
 
decided to grind some legacy bosses today, mostly baramos because i never fought him.

dude was easy! with level 99 priest / soldier / gladiator / ranger, gritty ditty + 3x falcon slash and he's dead in 3-4 turns.

picked up 2 or 3 aliahan boots and 1 aliahan clothes. i want to get his legacy map =) i want to get the
dragonlord
map most of all. listening to his music from DQ1 is epic. not as epic as
DW4 saro's
though.

also got a yellow orb from deathtamoor! but i don't know what it's used in. i wish i could get all the recipes so i don't feel guilty gamefaqs-ing them.

i haven't been checking my DQVC because i'm too lazy to turn off WPA on my router.
 
I really hate the Priest's level 40 quest, Nurtural Selection. That will take a bit, since most enemies don't do too much damage to my characters. That and figuring out Hoarse Whisperer are my 2 main goals, aside from getting a Sage maxed out, before going to fight the final boss.

Nice selection in shop today, too bad I have no money.

Muscle Belt, Skull Cap, Skeletal Slacks, and Thug's Mug. Really want to get the 1st 3, but that may take some time to do. Good thing the shop will last me until sometime for midnight tomorrow, assuming it takes that long to get money.
 
[quote name='kainzero']i haven't been checking my DQVC because i'm too lazy to turn off WPA on my router.[/QUOTE]

This week is a good week for the DQVC.. Reckless necklaces!
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I really hate the Priest's level 40 quest, Nurtural Selection. That will take a bit, since most enemies don't do too much damage to my characters. That and figuring out Hoarse Whisperer are my 2 main goals, aside from getting a Sage maxed out, before going to fight the final boss.[/QUOTE]
For the priest's quest, you can use the lava in the volcano or the damage floor in
Gittingham Palace
.
For Hoarse Whisperer I completed it way later, I had to use a Luminary skill.

Good thing the shop will last me until sometime for midnight tomorrow, assuming it takes that long to get money.
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If you don't want to change the shop, you don't have to update your DQVC...
[quote name='BattleChicken']This week is a good week for the DQVC.. Reckless necklaces![/QUOTE]
thank god i have kawasaki lockers =)
 
[quote name='craven_fiend'] That and figuring out Hoarse Whisperer are my 2 main goals, aside from getting a Sage maxed out, before going to fight the final boss.[/QUOTE]

Well, Hoarse Whisperer is really easy once you figure out that there is a way to enrage enemies with an ability. If you don't have that (I think it is a Warrior ability that I didn't have at first since I ignored that class initially) it would take a while to have that many naturally enraged at you (though it will happen eventually). Or did you not even know it had to do with enemy rage? ;)

As for the final boss, well, crap, he is a HUGE increase in difficulty from the minibosses and his earlier form at the end. I had no problem taking on the minibosses and his first form all in succession without replenishing my MP. Then last night I went back up there (luckily there is a shortcut that you can open up!) and fought
the dragon
with no problem. Then I went on to the
powered-up Corvus
and I hung with him for a long time, even through his super-magic attack which nearly wiped everyone out but not quite. Then I started to run out of MP and couldn't heal any more and that did me in. So, I thought, I'll go back with some MP items and just go right for him (since the previous battle was taken care of now). Well, crap, it seems I was just lucky the first time. The next THREE times he wipes me out in a few turns, thanks mostly to crazy-assed criticals combined with my stupid Zing spell working like once in 10 times :bomb:. (And when it did, he would invariably strike with some sort of "hit everyone" attack that would kill the character again since they only come back with like 20 HP). So, someone would get knocked out, my main char would try Zing but it almost never worked, then I only had 2 to fight/heal with. Sooner or later they would get knocked out and I'd be trying to revive 2 with no healer left, etc... So, yeah, I can see why earlier someone was swearing about the criticals ;). I decided to go grind some metal king slimes instead (though they keep running before I can ever TRY to hit them :roll:).

I have 2 chars around level 45 but another 2 in the low 30's (my Sage and Paladin). My higher-level chars are a Ranger and a Martial Artist (using boomerang and claws, respectively). Maybe I should have a sword-user, I dunno - never trained that up though beyond metal slash. I think I was probably really close the first time I fought him as I had hit him pretty hard for a while (200-300 per turn for 9-12 turns or so). But then, man, not nearly so close the next 3 times...

[quote name='kainzero']dude was easy! with level 99 priest / soldier / gladiator / ranger, gritty ditty + 3x falcon slash and he's dead in 3-4 turns.
[/QUOTE]

Wait, is there stuff that isn't easy with four level 99 characters!? I've already put 80 hours into the game - I'm not sure if I'll have the patience to max out all my chars and then still have trouble beating stuff!
 
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[quote name='kainzero']For the priest's quest, you can use the lava in the volcano or the damage floor in
Gittingham Palace
.
For Hoarse Whisperer I completed it way later, I had to use a Luminary skill.

If you don't want to change the shop, you don't have to update your DQVC...

thank god i have kawasaki lockers =)[/QUOTE]

I was using poison spots and actually got one of my characters poisoned in a battle. Just been walking around and occassionally fighting. I'm at 11 right now, so it won't be too much longer.

I think I figured out the skill for enraging, so that won't be terrible. The one that will do me in, is the critical hits one. That could take some time, since it says you can't do the crit or miss abilities.

I try to atleast check the shop every day I can. Today may be the day I don't do it, assuming I want to get 2/3 of a skeleton set to add to my set.
 
If you Egg ON or Psyche Up your more luckily to get Crit Hits.
That's how I did that quest.

I got tons of good stuff this week.
Hope next week is just as good.
 
[quote name='io']Wait, is there stuff that isn't easy with four level 99 characters!? I've already put 80 hours into the game - I'm not sure if I'll have the patience to max out all my chars and then still have trouble beating stuff![/QUOTE]
yeah, there is.
you can level up legacy bosses. they have different drops (and perhaps better drop rates) based on what level they are.

so yeah i was stomping level 1 baramos but i'm sure he won't be that easy when i get to level 70 or something.
 
So I totally went MKS hunting on the Masayuki map earlier. Getting to the 15th level wasn't too bad (though I noticed that some of the enemies on the way down were way harder than others - I stopped getting into fights around floor 5) and it was interesting. I can take out the MKS well enough, but if they have a friend (or two), I'm usually in a race to see how many times I can hit them with the crit/hit skills before my healer can't keep up on the Forebearance Paladin. I probably won't be going back until waaaay later, though I do like this Paladin / 2x Glad / Sage or Priest thing I have going on.

That said, what reduces spell damage? It seems like eventually, everyone will learn Virtue and I won't have need for a tank because some of the breath attacks / boom-like spells just hurt my one character for too much damage. Or, invest in more +HP and +Resil stats to help out. I suppose he could get a fan, but that takes preparation and in that time someone important like the healer could die. D:
 
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