Dragon's Dogma and Ghost Recon:FS at Fry's for $50

[quote name='mrspicytacoman']dragons dogma is gunna drop like a rock[/QUOTE]

Yea it is. I think they are banking on the RE6 demo that comes with this to get most of its sales. With how quickly RE5 went to $20 after its release I dont even think anyone cares about RE anymore.
 
[quote name='musha666']Yea it is. I think they are banking on the RE6 demo that comes with this to get most of its sales. With how quickly RE5 went to $20 after its release I dont even think anyone cares about RE anymore.[/QUOTE]

I believe RE5 was the best selling RE game of all time (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_5#Downloads_and_sales). And the trailer for 6 is pretty hypetastic. Really not the worst thing to bank on. Besides, I thought preliminary looks at Dragon's Dogma by reviewers were pretty favorable, no?
 
[quote name='handsomepete']I believe RE5 was the best selling RE game of all time (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_5#Downloads_and_sales). And the trailer for 6 is pretty hypetastic. Really not the worst thing to bank on. Besides, I thought preliminary looks at Dragon's Dogma by reviewers were pretty favorable, no?[/QUOTE]
doesn't matter, average consumers don't know wtf dragons dogma is and will ignore it like a red headed step child. it will be 20 bucks by the end of summer. Capcom marketing blows donkey dick
 
[quote name='mrspicytacoman']dragons dogma is gunna drop like a rock[/QUOTE]

I really want this game though and I probably will get it day one to support it. The demo was really fun and the concept alone is fantastic.
 
[quote name='BrolyB593']I really want this game though and I probably will get it day one to support it. The demo was really fun and the concept alone is fantastic.[/QUOTE]

That's awesome. I still need to try out the demo. I just been playing through my backlog. Haven't had time to play it. Just finished Shattered Dimensions. It was pretty good.
 
i was about to get this from radioshack(lol, i know, burning my credit i made that one day) with my 10 off 40 coupon, but it says no videogame hardware/software. ugh.

this will drop hard tho. hopefully fast. i heard it's ok.
i hate capcom with a passion so much tho. you know they will re release this with extra crap contained. like they will re orc 'complete' ugh.
i read a news thing from capcom where they said they know people are upset about locked ingame dlc because of the streetfighterXtekken game, but this was already how the game was going to be so they can't take the ingame dlc out to sell us later. ugh
i know that is how the industry is, and it isnt like activision is rushing to get maps to us and delivering them as they are made, but it feels better when american companies lie to us or something. having capcom think the problem is locked ingame dlc when its any dlc that should be freaking included in the game at time of release. argh. lost my train of thought. peace cags
 
[quote name='ijustw1n']I though the DD demo sucked. I'm hopeful for ghost recon but not to bite before release.[/QUOTE]
I didn't like the demo either. I cancelled my preorder after playing it.
 
I don't know, the demo was fun. It looks like a good game.

What criteria are you guys using when you say it will drop like a rock?
 
[quote name='pdjones']I don't know, the demo was fun. It looks like a good game.

What criteria are you guys using when you say it will drop like a rock?[/QUOTE]

Consumer awareness is more important than quality insofar as the price is concerned. This game wasn't advertised well and it's being released during a lull in gaming, too.
 
[quote name='pdjones']I don't know, the demo was fun. It looks like a good game.

What criteria are you guys using when you say it will drop like a rock?[/QUOTE]


Because it is a new IP and many reviews constantly say Skyrim and Dark Souls is better. But I will buy this on day one since I throughly enjoyed the demo.

Also it is being released after Diablo 3.
 
[quote name='khoido']Sorry for double posting but watch these videos if you're on the fence about the game.

http://youtu.be/NrCiV4LOYk4

http://youtu.be/_c8krHCKHDI

http://youtu.be/qEsVmmXQqWA[/QUOTE]

Wow. I was one of those who tried the demo and didn't like it. These videos detail a lot of good things about the game that you can't (or that I didn't, anyways) get from just playing the demo. The videos do such a better job of marketing the game. It's too bad they didn't choose to spend more marketing dollars to get more people aware of this game.
 
I had placed an order with Amazon for release day shipping and read this. I'm glad I did, Dragon Dogma is not the best sounding western title. I agree that this will be $19.99 within 4-6 months. I can wait. :)
 
[quote name='ChaosLaw']Consumer awareness is more important than quality insofar as the price is concerned. This game wasn't advertised well and it's being released during a lull in gaming, too.[/QUOTE]

I never even heard of the game till a month ago when a friend mention it to me. I just thought it was some random shit medieval rpg till I saw the demo and tried it. I might get it but I might wait since I hate exclusive preorder bonuses and I tend to avoid games when they do that. Screw me over as a consumer, I'll screw you over too and give you one less sale.

Even though D3 just came out, it's probably the best time to release the game. People always complain everything gets released in the Fall. Well now it seems everybody complains that games are released when there is a lull.
 
[quote name='gokou36']No there's no co-op, the only online component is that you can put your pawn up for people to play/lvl.[/QUOTE]

That's right, I remember hearing something about that. My mistake.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']I never even heard of the game till a month ago when a friend mention it to me. I just thought it was some random shit medieval rpg till I saw the demo and tried it. I might get it but I might wait since I hate exclusive preorder bonuses and I tend to avoid games when they do that. Screw me over as a consumer, I'll screw you over too and give you one less sale.

Even though D3 just came out, it's probably the best time to release the game. People always complain everything gets released in the Fall. Well now it seems everybody complains that games are released when there is a lull.[/QUOTE]

They complain about too many releases in the fall...and proceed to buy them all, anyway. The pre-order bonuses seem superfluous--extra money or extra armor? Something that will probably become irrelevant within a few hours into the game. Pre-order DLC can also be sold, so it just adds value to me. And for games that I want to have all the pre-order DLC for, well, that's easy enough to accomplish, if you cared enough.
 
I was so hyped for this game until I found out that almost all of the game's DLC is already on the disc.

Can't support that shit from Capcom, so I'm waiting for a price drop or cheap used copy.

Eat a dick Ca$hcom.
 
[quote name='Brother Daz']I didn't like the demo either. I cancelled my preorder after playing it.[/QUOTE]

Really? I preordered it after playing the demo as I thought it was great! (Which is really saying allot because I've liked few JRPGs this generation, I think I'm suffering burnout.)

Of course, my preorder was canceled when Capcom went and put the DLC on the disc... :roll:

(But at least they were kind enough to confirm it before the game came out...)

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/capcom-re-evaluating-on-disc-dlc-is-listening/

Edit: Just like Solder mentioned... I hope we're not the only lost sales. :)
 
You know, I'm still waiting for Asura's Wrath to get a drop... so you never know, this might be the best deal for a while. It seems unique enough to be worth supporting if you're into it. I haven't tried the demo yet, though.
 
I liked the demo, but being a Capcom game I also won't support their DLC tactics. Total BS. Price drop first and then a used copy after that for me. I wish I could support a new IP like this, but I won't give my $$ to support their practices. Hopefully that recent article about them revising their "strategy" will fix things in the future.
 
I don't fully understand the dislike for on-disc DLC (i assume it saves companies money or royalties when running the content through xbox live or PSN), unless you're hardcore and refuse to buy any DLC (I've never bought dlc) unless you can see the development cycle dates to show it wasn't created when the original game was. Would it really make you feel better if it was released as a separate download even if you didn't have the development timeframe data? Is a little ignorance healthy here?
 
If a game is being developed with DLC in mind, but all of the DLC is able to ship at launch, it shouldn't be DLC.

If it's ready to go when the discs are printed, why isn't that just included with the purchase of a 60 dollar game? And yes, I'd feel better downloading a file personally if I'm "buying" content that you pay an additional fee for.

DLC used to mean Down Loadable Content, and now it means Disc Locked Content. I don't like that.

I hope this blows up in the face of Capcom again. I play fighters more than anything and SFxTekken is one of the least polished games of this generation. They were too busy finishing paid DLC that is included on the disc instead of finishing the core game. That says a lot about a company and their goals IMO.
 
Not bad on Amazon if you consider a few things, one that you pay in full gift/promo credit, since you get $10 back on promotional credit and two, that you get an extra bonus for about a buck-fifty more.
 
[quote name='Solder']If a game is being developed with DLC in mind, but all of the DLC is able to ship at launch, it shouldn't be DLC.

If it's ready to go when the discs are printed, why isn't that just included with the purchase of a 60 dollar game? And yes, I'd feel better downloading a file personally if I'm "buying" content that you pay an additional fee for.

DLC used to mean Down Loadable Content, and now it means Disc Locked Content. I don't like that.

I hope this blows up in the face of Capcom again. I play fighters more than anything and SFxTekken is one of the least polished games of this generation. They were too busy finishing paid DLC that is included on the disc instead of finishing the core game. That says a lot about a company and their goals IMO.[/QUOTE]

Through that reasoning it appears you want them to lie and say "oh we just made this, here download it". Maybe that's the position they should reanalyze, be less transparent. With today's proliferation of mega franchises and repetitive sequels and entertainment company mismanagement, I'm all for companies exploring new revenue streams. Dragon's Dogma is such a game, hopefully it succeeds (not for me though) despite these mentalities and we don't just all keep buying Halo 7 and COD: Black Ops 4.
 
No, what I'd like them to do is say "hey we made extra content for that game you bought, and you can buy it for 5-15 bucks if you'd like. And if you do want it, you download it from the marketplace."

As opposed to what currently is happening, which is more like "Hey, if you want to get all of the information off that 60 dollar game you bought, be prepared to chalk up 5-15 bucks per section of locked content."

I personally see it as a scam. SfxTekken burned me (and most of the fighting game community) pretty damned hard. Again, my bigger issue with it is that if there are ANY bugs / glitches in the game itself when it launches, that they should have been found and removed before the discs were printed. When you have the entire DLC mapped out and printed on the disc for launch, there had better not be ANY issues with the core game (which isn't going to happen in all likely hood).

But we can agree to disagree.
 
[quote name='Solder']No, what I'd like them to do is say "hey we made extra content for that game you bought, and you can buy it for 5-15 bucks if you'd like. And if you do want it, you download it from the marketplace."

As opposed to what currently is happening, which is more like "Hey, if you want to get all of the information off that 60 dollar game you bought, be prepared to chalk up 5-15 bucks per section of locked content."

I personally see it as a scam. SfxTekken burned me (and most of the fighting game community) pretty damned hard. Again, my bigger issue with it is that if there are ANY bugs / glitches in the game itself when it launches, that they should have been found and removed before the discs were printed. When you have the entire DLC mapped out and printed on the disc for launch, there had better not be ANY issues with the core game (which isn't going to happen in all likely hood).

But we can agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]

DLC used to be a novelty. Now it's a business plan - ever since companies realized they can artifically raise or maintain a higher on-the-books value of a game if they take a fraction of the game's content, sell it separately and factor in average DLC purchases as part of the overall sale price. Not saying it's bad or good, but whether or not the DLC is on disc or not is irrelevant - I imagine most if not all DLC anymore is created alongside the actual game while the development team is in full swing. On disc or not just affects the perception of the value you feel like you're getting for your $3/$5/$10/whatever. They could hang on to it for three or four months and then toss it on xbl or psn to remove that perception, but that probably costs them more in the long run.

Sorry to egg this discussion on, but apparently not sorry enough to not hit 'submit reply'.
 
Some of the stuff the mentioned in the Joystiq review (difficulty spike, lack of story, grinding,etc) can be said the same for Dark/Demon Souls and people gushed all over those things for that game.
 
I actually think DD would do reasonably well on the PC, however even if Capcom did release it for the PC I'm sure they'd ruin it by making it Games for Windows Live instead of Steamworks.

Anyway, I'm sure if it doesn't do well Capcom will assume that Western RPGs don't do well on consoles rather than assuming it was anything with their game.

It seems a somewhat interesting game in concept to me but with all this DLC business might be better to wait for a GOTY edition.
 
[quote name='KrizB']Some of the stuff the mentioned in the Joystiq review (difficulty spike, lack of story, grinding,etc) can be said the same for Dark/Demon Souls and people gushed all over those things for that game.[/QUOTE]

You should re-read the review because it notes some red flags like: "Dragon's Dogma's difficultly doesn't "curve" so much as it "juts abruptly skyward at random intervals," without warning, rhyme or reason. After completing one of the very first story quests (a slow and tedious escort mission, naturally), an NPC from Cassardis appeared and told me that there had been a kidnapping. After following the NPC back to the village and accepting the quest to find the missing girl, I discovered that a group of bandits blocked the path to where the girl had been taken. I would not be able to defeat these bandits until 10 levels later, by which time the quest had expired from my quest log."
 
[quote name='Rodster']You should re-read the review because it notes some red flags like: "Dragon's Dogma's difficultly doesn't "curve" so much as it "juts abruptly skyward at random intervals," without warning, rhyme or reason. After completing one of the very first story quests (a slow and tedious escort mission, naturally), an NPC from Cassardis appeared and told me that there had been a kidnapping. After following the NPC back to the village and accepting the quest to find the missing girl, I discovered that a group of bandits blocked the path to where the girl had been taken. I would not be able to defeat these bandits until 10 levels later, by which time the quest had expired from my quest log."[/QUOTE]

LOL. do not want.
 
Joystiq seems to sometimes try really hard to be an outlier with reviews; nobody else gave it a score nearly that low and most of them are quite positive. I still trust GI and they gave it 8.5/10. The videos I've seen look interesting, so maybe I'll splurge on my birthday week.
 
[quote name='radioactivez0r']Joystiq seems to sometimes try really hard to be an outlier with reviews; nobody else gave it a score nearly that low and most of them are quite positive. I still trust GI and they gave it 8.5/10. The videos I've seen look interesting, so maybe I'll splurge on my birthday week.[/QUOTE]

Actually, Joystiq's reviews are usually pretty spot on going by averages... They grade a little over a single point below average on their reviews according to metacritc. (1.1)

Not that Game Informer is a slouch either, I rarely shop at Gamestop outside of renewing my subscription to GI, and metacritic reflects this too. (0.3 above avg according to metacritic.)

About the most brutal publication/website I can think of is Edge (they grade a n insane 9.3 below avg) and they gave the game a 7.0.

So, they game is hardly bad but its going to be one of those polarizing games that people seem to either love or hate... and really nothing is wrong with that. :)
 
I want dragons dogma but like most of you I think it will drop in price pretty quick. I just dont want to miss the RE6 demo.

Still though, theres tons of those 'limited first print' games out there for a lot of games like Deus EX and RAGE, so I would think the chances of it being around once it hits
 
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