Dreamcast: The greatest console that never was...

I think I should fire up my DC now before I go to class. I love that sucker. Still have the most DC games (somthing like 45...)
 
I think I may be one of the biggest Dreamcast fanboys of all time.

I started a dorky-ass site about it for Pete's sake!

The Dreamcast has some of the best games of all time on the console. It has something great for every genre.

You guys are forgetting Chu Chu Rocket! That game is simple, yet amazing.

I would give both my nads to have seen the Dreamcast succeed and still be going strong today.
 
PSO, Shenmue, Jet Grind Radio, MSR (PGR1), SA1, SA2, Rush 2049 (Best. Multiplayer. Racer. EVER.), Skies of Arcadia, Seaman, StreetFighter: III, Soul Calibur, Grandia 2, Samba, VMU Chao, Ikaruga, Shenmue 2, Crazy Taxi, Rayman 2, Test Drive Le Mans (still amazing), MvsC2, PSO, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2, PowerStone 2, and a sports series so good even i picked them up.

I know some of these were released on other platforms either at the same time or even later...but DC did them best.

if those werent enough reasons to own a DC, the amount of modding possible should seal the deal. My favorite mod involved a DC that got hooked up and hidden in a buisness network and sent confidential documents elsewhere. EVIL DC :twisted:
 
One of the best things about the DC was the launch price of $200. Because of that and Soul Calibur, it is the only console I ever preordered.
 
[quote name='Wshakspear']if those werent enough reasons to own a DC, the amount of modding possible should seal the deal. My favorite mod involved a DC that got hooked up and hidden in a buisness network and sent confidential documents elsewhere. EVIL DC :twisted:[/quote]

Yeah, I heard about that. Apparently, they were able to hide it up in the ceiling and got all sorts of cool stuff from it.
 
[quote name='guyver2077'][quote name='kristianator'][quote name='Medium_Pimpin']Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.[/quote]

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check[/quote]

correction:

Best Fighting Game (MK:GOLD) to date: Check[/quote]

correction:

Best Fighting Game (Vampire Chronicles) to date: Check
 
It's a great console, with only a few crap games. Am I the only person who thought JGR sucked? If it weren't for the craptacular controls, I would've liked it. It kind of surprised me when I first got my DC how good the majority of the games are. Sure the DC sucks when it comes to durability and reliability, but there aren't many other systems that has as many fun and original games.
 
DC was the only system I ever got at launch. It did become my party system of choice with power stone 2, MvsC2, and virtua tennis. I also spent many hours with PSO, shenmue, and RE:CV. I loved sonic adventure, but i thought the sequal was crap. A magicial system, it will never die.
 
I must admit - I was a hater. I mocked the DC when it first came out, and made nerdy jokes about it whenever I could. But as I matured somewhat, I gradually noticed that a lot of key games that I wanted were showing up on that system. Lots of fighters that I loved had sequels that were DC exclusive. So while I was actively enjoying my PSX, I could only salivate from afar over games like Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Street Fighter 3, and MK Gold (yes, MK Gold :p ). Then there were cool games like PowerStone and Chu Chu Rocket and Jet Grind Radio - I had no experience with these, but they just looked so cool and interesting to me.

Late in 2001, shortly after the DC pretty much became a non-factor in the US, I finally made the jump. I was going through a tough breakup, so I decided to fill that hottie-shaped hole in my life by finally going ahead and playing all those games I had been lusting after for so long. The first step, naturally, was to buy the Dreamcast. I scoured eBay, eventually winning a $85 bid for a DC unit, with Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Shenmue included. Back then, I think that was a damn good deal, especially considering the relative scarcity of MvC2 at the time.

So finally I started getting all those sequels I wanted, as well as branching out and picking up some unfamiliar titles that I had heard good things about. And it ended up being a great journey of discovery for me as a gamer. Keep in mind that late-2001 was probably the absolute BEST time to be buying cheap Dreamcast games. It was the period of time where game stores were starting to really slash prices on their DC inventory, but a lot of games that are rare now were still pretty easy to find. Oh man, it was sweet... so many gems, so many frigging BARGAINS. To this day, the most I ever paid for a Dreamcast game was twenty-four bucks, and that was for a brand-new copy of Street Fighter III: Third Strike (from Wal-Mart, of all places). In fact, I think that's the only DC game I ever paid more than $20 for (but it was so, SO worth it).

That year, the DC would become a beloved addition to the college apartment. Popping a CD in the stereo and playing Worms Armageddon became the perfect way to lounge around with friends... Rotating 4-player games of Virtua Tennis and San Fransisco Rush dominated many a Saturday night... Chu Chu Rocket confused the crowds, but always ended up winning them over... NFL 2K with the roommate became an intense ongoing rivalry (and I don't even care for football)... Unreal Tournament became an addiction... MARATHON sessions of Soul Calibur became commonplace between my best friend and I (there's actually a pic of us playing it in the yearbook from that year)... then there's games like Bomberman and Sega Swirl that just continued the tradition of multiplayer goodness. There were plenty of other games I enjoyed, but the ones mentioned above were the real "crowd favorites." SO many good memories with that console, and for me all that came after the console was, for all intents and purposes, "dead."

Then about a year later my friend points me out to DCemulation.com. Oh man. My friend and I were stoked when we got NES games running on there. You have no idea, people at school were AMAZED when they saw that. Off the top of my head I can think of at least four people I know who went ahead and bought Dreamcasts after seeing some of the homebrew/emulation stuff. Somewhat ironic that a defect exploited by priates ended up selling systems. In any case, I am happy to have helped share the joy of Dreamcast goodness.

I'm gonna run to the bathroom and cry now. :cry: But not tears of mourning, but rather tears of JOY, and of fond memories - for this is a tale of life brought about after death! :D
 
The DC is one of the few systems that I picked up on the day of its release. There are so many good games for that system and so few bad ones, IMO. It had a sports series that I actually cared for how good it was. It had the fighters, some RPGS (not to many but if it had continued could have had so much more), the multiplayer games, etc. It was one of the few systems that just had everything you wanted and not tons of crap to wade through to get to it.
 
[quote name='pumbaa']GOD why did the DC fail?!!?[/quote]

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.
 
At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.
 
I am a true DC fanboy, I got my PAL copy of Shenmue 2 and my pal copy of REZ & Headhunter. It was so easy to import games with the dc, all you needed was a boot disk.

It's still my favorite console, it had mouse, Keyboard, arcade stick, twin sticks, marracca, lightgun, panther DX, fishing controller, & steering wheel support.

I hope I am not the only one in this thrad that is able to see the DC in all it's glory thanks to a VGA box. Soul Calibur and that VGA box has & still does turn alot of heads.

I think there are still guys creating mods for Fire Pro D.
 
[quote name='cheapass Gundam'][quote name='pumbaa']GOD why did the DC fail?!!?[/quote]

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.[/quote]

The only reason the DC failed is because Sega couldn't afford to manufacture hardware anymore. The system WAS successful before that. The focus on sports is what made it successful. It is the mainstream titles that made the system popular. Focusing solely on Japanese/niche titles may have seemed like a good idea but look at Sega now. The only bonafide hits they have are their Sega Sports lineups. Not Shinobi, not Nightshade, not Panzer Dragoon Orta. NFL 2K did for Sega what Madden did for PS2. It moved more systems than any other game. The main reason it survived as long as it did was due to the online games they had. Sony hadn't released their Network Adapter yet and Xbox Live was nothing at the time. Online Sega Sports, PSO, Quake III, UT really kept the system alive for awhile.

Anyway, I still love my DC. I still play Marvel vs. Capcom 2 a lot. I also love Virtua Tennis 2 (although Top Spin is vastly superior). But the main reason I love this system is for one game....

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That game kicks every form of ass that exists....
 
I'm glad to see so many of my favorite DC games being listed , here are my 2 cents.

Mars Matrix
Gigawing 2
Gunbird 2
Ikaruga
Cannon Spike
Samba De Amigo (I have v2000, but my knockoff SAMBA FANS maracas don't work with them)
PSO
MS Gundam- Federation Vs Zeon DX (the last Import game I bought)
Typing of the Dead
Sonic Adventure
MVC2
Cap Vs SNK 2
SF3
Rent a Hero No 1 (worth it just for the opening sequence)
Crazy Taxi
All the Sega Fishing games (with the fishing rod controller, that has thrown me out of more than one chair :oops: )
Cosmic Smash
REZ

and the greatest game to ever bless the home entertainment market
BLUE STINGER!!!!!!!one

Ok just kidding about the Blue Stinger, but I did pay full price for that at launch, and at the time it looked great.
 
There's something about the Dreamcast and the Gamecube that remind me of each other. They both seem to have similiar bright sharp graphics with more a more arcade type fun experience.

It sucks that Sega split it's properties up between 3 systems (plus portables). It's a pain in the ass for their long time supporters and it's even more screwed up when they move one series to one console (Sega Rally for Xbox) then put it's next suquel on another (PS2).
 
[quote name='guyver2077'][quote name='kristianator'][quote name='Medium_Pimpin']Best Resident Evil game to date: Check
Best Fighting Game(SC) to date: Check
Best JRPG this gen(Grandia II): Check

I miss the DC, and i went jobless in 2001 or else i would have supported it legally.[/quote]

correction:

Best Fighting Game (SFIII: 3rd Strike) to date: Check[/quote]

correction:

Best Fighting Game (MK:GOLD) to date: Check[/quote]

he had it right the first time. And yeah, I love the DC. I bought two. One when it was released and another when it was $10 at eb.
 
[quote name='BustaUppa']At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.[/quote]

You're not the first person I've heard say it so don't feel like I'm picking on you, please, but what the fuck does this mean? a GAMER'S system? Aren't they all GAMER'S systems ? They're all GAME systems, right ? In fact, their primary function is to play GAMES. I mean, is the Xbox an ass picker's system? the cube a fart smeller's system ?

In case you haven't checked lately, gaming IS mainstream and has been for years. They are neck and neck with the recording and movie industry. Please don't tell me you think you're unique and have your own little niche because you dont. Any game that passes over your hot little hands does so becuase it has mass appeal, not because it was made specially for your hardcore geekyness.
 
[quote name='bmulligan'][quote name='BustaUppa']At a time in which consoles were on the verge of truly becoming mainstream, the Dreamcast was a GAMER's system.

Practically anachronistic... I think the timing is what really did it in.[/quote]

You're not the first person I've heard say it so don't feel like I'm picking on you, please, but what the shaq-fu does this mean? a GAMER'S system? Aren't they all GAMER'S systems ? They're all GAME systems, right ? In fact, their primary function is to play GAMES. I mean, is the Xbox an ass picker's system? the cube a fart smeller's system ?

In case you haven't checked lately, gaming IS mainstream and has been for years. They are neck and neck with the recording and movie industry. Please don't tell me you think you're unique and have your own little niche because you dont. Any game that passes over your hot little hands does so becuase it has mass appeal, not because it was made specially for your hardcore geekyness.[/quote]
Dude, you're talking to a guy who blasted the DC when it first came out. So to an extent I can understand what you're saying. But I think in retrospect it's easy to look back and see distinct differences between the DC audience and, say, the XBOX audience. I'm a proud owner of all four consoles in this generation, so there's no fanboyism going into these opinions here. There are defininitely different types of gamers... this isn't some elitist judgment, it's just the way it is. I have known plenty of gamers who own a PS1 and a few sports games, and that's it. Yet here we are reminscing about Dreamcast and we're bringing up Sambe de Amigo and frigging Chu Chu Rocket and all these obscure fighters and what have you. The hardcore gamers are everywhere, but there's a relatively high-percentage of those types among the DC gamers; especially those who STILL own a Dreamcast.

Dreamcast and PS2 had a noticeable contrast. With PS2 the timing was perfect... DVD was hitting it huge right around then, so for many people that alone made them jump to the PS2. Dreamcast pioneered online gaming but that wasn't enough to hold the attention of the mainstrem populace. DC would fade into obscurity, while PS2 went on to sell like crazy and get mentioned in rap videos.

If you don't see it that way, then fine. No need to get hostile.
 
I still use my DC a lot, mostly for playing NES games w/o having to keep the NES & games out of storage. :wink: I also have been trying to complete Skies of Arcadia, which I put down a couple years ago after getting about half-way through.
 
The only hardcore launch I've ever taken part in. System, extra controller, VMU, and 3 games. (Got PS2 three days after launch because my Sony credit card had enough points to reimburse the cost and a couple of free games showed up I work).

I still look back at the Dreamcast launch as the most exciting time in my gaming history (back to the 2600), mainly because my 3 gaming friends all got it too and we had a big launch party. My wife even helped me make orange swirls with icing on white cupcakes.

There were great titles on day one. Power Stone rocked. The intro to Sonic Adventure just made you feel like a new era had dawned. Soul Calibur played amazingly with the analog stick (Soul Blade wasn't analog on PS).

Then later we got stuff like Crazy Taxi, Worms Armageddon, Shenmue, Virtua Tennis, etc. Stupidly, I sold mine DC after they stopped making new games for it. I just got another one, now I just need to track down some of the games. Also trying to find a cheap fishing controller.

I just hope any of the next systems have a launch as great as DC.
 
Before 9/9/99 I had a Playstation and about 10 games. Then I bought a DC and had a religious experience. I now have hundreds of games for multiple consoles. Something about the DC aroused a passion for games in me that hasn't died. I still smile thinking about the first time I fired my DC up and play Soul Calibur and Sonic Adventure. Any time I start to wonder about why I love games, I just think about my conversations with my Seaman and it all comes back to me.
 
I have been ignoring my DC for months now because I have been catching up on playing all the cheap Xbox and PS2 games I have bought over the past year, and as well as XBL. However, I have been playing both Sega Marine and Sega Bass Fishing a lot these couple past days.
 
[quote name='pumbaa']lest we forget... perhaps the funnest party game of all time... SAMBA DE AMIGO... I think that game was the highlight of about 4 of my parties (and with NORMAL people even!)[/quote]

Ahh that game was classic. It was the only game I could get people to play and they knowingly knew they looked like an ass playing it ;)
 
[quote name='cheapass Gundam'][quote name='pumbaa']GOD why did the DC fail?!!?[/quote]

Sega of America focused too much on action and sports games, competing directly with Sony instead of allowing more releases of their Japanese/niche titles. The system survived for quite a while after its US demise thanks to third party publishers and fan support.[/quote]

Also, EA did ot support it, so key franchises like Madden were not on there. It came out as the sun was setting on the PS1, but unfortuately, the PS2, with its much hyped backwards compatiablity was on the horizon. Most people I know just wait for the PS2, jsutyfying th wait by saying they would still be able to play all the PS1 games they bought even after the PS2 luanched. For some reason, it seemed like there were less 2-3 sytem owners then.

Me, I bought an import Dreamcast, traded it in for a US Dreamcast, traded that in for an XBOX and then bought 2 more Dreamcasts since then. I still have 2.
 
Amazingly built too. I play mine all the time and I bought it launch day. Although I have a new one in the box just in case....anyone play Shadowman on it?
 
[quote name='Gameboy415']God damn I love Dreamcast. And so did everyone else......for a time.

But I remember back when it first came out, all the EB/Gamestop guys wouldn't stop talking about it. Just a few months later, when PS2 was announced, I actually had employees LAUGH at me for buying Dreamcast games over "SUPERIOR" PS2 games. I'm talking about the same people I would excitedly talk to about the latest DC games, now laughing at me for supporting the system.
But lets get one thing straight, I do love my PS2.

NOW.

At launch and for about a year after, PS2 shaq-fuing sucked hard and sat and collected dust when I wasn't using it to play PS1 RPGs. I swear Sony paid off employees to hype their catbox and drive Sega into the ground. Its really a damn shame.

Anywho, Samba De Amigo is amazing, as are the power stone games, Bangai-O, Soul Cal, and all the Capcom and SNK fighters that graced the little white box. And I don't care what anyone says, I LOVED Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.
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[quote name='opportunity777']The one thing that hasn't aged well with the system is the racing games. I can still go back and play Rage Racer or something for the PS1 if I'm really bored, but I have no desire to break out Metropolis Street Racer or even Daytona USA.

Speaking of Daytona USA where is a sequel?[/quote]

RUSH 2049! Hello?!
 
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