Eye of Judgement Discussion Thread

Hmm... I suspect that there's no barcode, er not in the way we're used to though. I think the symbols inside the black bars are just for show, the camera is likely looking at the overall size, shape, and how those black bars are broken up to determine what card it is, then it checks this against a list of cards in the game data instead of actually reading info from the card.

Despite it being a CCG, I'm actually very interested in this, and I'm not sure why. I wasn't interested at all until I saw it in action and for some reason it just works.
 
I can't wait for this game. This is my most wanted game this year, and it can't come out fast enough.
 
[quote name='spydey']I can't wait for this game. This is my most wanted game this year, and it can't come out fast enough.[/QUOTE]

This is the reason I got a PS3, no joke.
 
I just watched the preview on the PSN and it looks like a lot of fun. I'd love to see Wizards do a Magic game. The only downfall i see is the amount they charge for new decks/booster packs.

So many good games & hd-dvds/br's coming out this fall. I'm gonna be so broke..
 
They announced the PSEye is going to be $40 on its own, and some stores already have it up for pre-order. Pretty good price if you ask me. Think it is the save as the old Vision?
 
It's upgraded, and also has an interesting microphone setup that's some strange directional mic that also cancels out noise.

They haven't talked much about that, but I'd like to see it in action.
 
Yeah I am going to take the whole $170 bucks that most folks will put into rock band and sink it into EoJ... I have the game, the 5 starter decks, and 5 booster backs pre-ordered...
 
Interesting. My friend and I just plan to share. He's the CCG gamer, I never liked the collectable aspect and by the time I try these games they've got so many cards it's hard for me to assemble a deck.

So, I just let him assemble a deck for me, maybe buy a pack or two, then we play.
 
I plan to play with my wife and daughter at home and figured I would need more decks to start... Building a deck drives me crazy so I got 1 of each to se what I like.
 
I'm also interested in this game and fairly new to the collectible trading card genre, so I appreciate any insights into my questions:

1) Can I only play by myself with the initial 30 cards in the starter deck (packed with the game & eyecam bundle)? Would I need to buy another themed starter deck to play co-op mode with my cousin?

2) Is it my understanding that all the starter decks packed with the game and all the individual themed starter decks ($15 each) are identical, respectively? So, that means only the $4 booster packs will be randomized with 8 cards, right?

3) Does anyone know the ratio of common & uncommon cards provided in the decks or booster packs? The press release only stated that there will be just 1 rare or ultra-rare per booster pak, so are the rest just duplicates that can be found in the starter decks? On that note, there will be 110 cards upon launch....is there any mention of how they have been divided (rarity & function-wise)?


Just wanted a heads up before I commit to the pre-orders on Amazon. Thx.
 
[quote name='FatBoyInside']I'm also interested in this game and fairly new to the collectible trading card genre, so I appreciate any insights into my questions:

1) Can I only play by myself with the initial 30 cards in the starter deck (packed with the game & eyecam bundle)? Would I need to buy another themed starter deck to play co-op mode with my cousin?

2) Is it my understanding that all the starter decks packed with the game and all the individual themed starter decks ($15 each) are identical, respectively? So, that means only the $4 booster packs will be randomized with 8 cards, right?

3) Does anyone know the ratio of common & uncommon cards provided in the decks or booster packs? The press release only stated that there will be just 1 rare or ultra-rare per booster pak, so are the rest just duplicates that can be found in the starter decks? On that note, there will be 110 cards upon launch....is there any mention of how they have been divided (rarity & function-wise)?


Just wanted a heads up before I commit to the pre-orders on Amazon. Thx.[/quote]
I'd check the PS boards/blog to try for answer to those. Good quetsions though, sorry I don't know answers.
 
[quote name='NamPaehc']I'd check the PS boards/blog to try for answer to those. Good quetsions though, sorry I don't know answers.[/QUOTE]

For those interested, found the answers to my questions on the interweb.

1) Can I only play by myself with the initial 30 cards in the starter deck (packed with the game & eyecam bundle)? Would I need to buy another themed starter deck to play co-op mode with my cousin? In order to play a full, complete game you will need to start with a 30-card deck per player. This is definitely true for online VS. However, there is an easier "Rock Paper Scissor" Mode, but I'm not sure what the requirements or rules are...

2) Is it my understanding that all the starter decks packed with the game and all the individual themed starter decks ($15 each) are identical, respectively? So, that means only the $4 booster packs will be randomized with 8 cards, right?
YES, all the starter decks & themed decks will have identical selections of cards. Only the individual booster packs will have 8 random cards with 1 of them guaranteed to be ranked RARE or ULTRA-RARE.

3) Does anyone know the ratio of common & uncommon cards provided in the decks or booster packs? The press release only stated that there will be just 1 rare or ultra-rare per booster pak, so are the rest just duplicates that can be found in the starter decks? On that note, there will be 110 cards upon launch....is there any mention of how they have been divided (rarity & function-wise)? Still unknown



Here's some other detailed info I found out:

- The 1st set launched with the game release (110 cards) is coined "The Biolith Rebellion". The 2nd set will be released in Feb.2008, and a 3rd set expansion is scheduled for July 2008. Each new set will contain at least 100 new card types and will introduce more powerful creatures and spells to keep the game "fresh". My pocket book is hurting from the news already.

- There is a deck limitation imposed. In general, you can only have a limit of 3 of the same cards in your hand. Some unique cards might be more stingy.
 
So do you think it would be wise to buy the starter decks or just buy a ton of booster packs?

The 5 starter decks + 4 boosters = 90
or 22 booster packs = 88

???
 
you could just build the starters if you get enough boosters. Does this game have any generic cards that you will need multiples of? (ie land)

That would be the only benefit of getting the starters imo.

Looking into a box of boosters to split between myself and a friend.
 
how many booster packs in a box? and is there or will there be a listing of the pre built starter decks??? Might be cool to build your own from the boosters and then see what the starters have to offer...
 
36 booster packs in a box.

There will probably be a complete card list out within a few days, I assume at least.

MY comic shop claims that the pre-orders for this one are very low, and that his distributor may not even carry it. thats just what one comic shop owner says.
 
Didi the Enlightened

Costs: 3 Mana Pts. to Summon / 2 Mana Pts. to Attack
Stats: 4 Hit Points, 2 Attack Points Damage; Quickness

Didi attacks the same target twice. The target's counter attack occurs after the second attack. Didi adds +1 to his attack if the enemy is on a fire field. While Didi is on the board, no fire field can be fieldquaked or exchanged.

didi.jpg


Rarity is color coded >> Black = common, White = uncommon, Silver = rare, and Gold = ultra-rare

Each booster pack will contain 5 common cards, 2 uncommon cards, and 1 rare or ultra-rare card.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/eye-of-judgment/up-close-and-personal-308642.php
 
[quote name='pete5883']That is one ugly card.[/QUOTE]

But have you considered that its on-screen representation might kick-ass? I mean, the whole concept of EOJ stress way beyond how the artwork of a card will look or just a laundry list of high stats/description bonuses. The art can look like crap, but if its game counterpart resembles the final "Knights of the Round" summon attack from FFVII (I think it was from that PS1 game), then I'm gonna waste lots of $$$ on booster packs just to score it. I hope most rare and ultra-rare cards receive extra attention from the game designers & programmers due to their scarcity.

Just discovered the existence of "phantom cards" in the booster packs, too. These are supposedly special ultra-rare cards with no artwork or stats; however, its true power will only be revealed in the game once it is summoned under the PS Eye. Speculations abound on whether these cards represent unique uber-powerful creatures or the ability to draw a number of random spells/creatures for the player's benefit. I bet the "Rubber Ducky" card from last year's E3 Sony stage conference will be one of these elusive cards.

Quick question, If I already registered the cards for my deck for online play, would the cards be re-usable online if they were later sold or given to another player for his/her personal deck ?
ANSWER FOUND: As long as you unregister your cards from PSN, you can trade or sell them if the buyer wants to play online.
 
that playstation eye looks sick..

id love to try the card game but id be more into a mini game selection and or some more unique uses of it..
 
Alright, here's the scoop on card distribution for the first EOJ set "Biolith Rebellion" on launch come Oct.24th (taken from a yahoo forum, hopefully accurate):

* 110 cards total
* 18 for each element (fire, water, earth, wood)
* 17 for biolith (metal)
* 1 white cubic (non-elemental)
* 20 spell cards

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FIRE - 18 cards - 5 common/4 uncommon/4 rare/4 ultra rare/1 phantom
WATER - 18 cards - 5 common/3 uncommon/6 rare/3 ultra rare/1 phantom
EARTH - 18 cards - 5 common/6 uncommon/3 rare/3 ultra rare/1 phantom
WOOD - 18 cards - 5 common/5 uncommon/4 rare/3 ultra rare/1 phantom
BIOLITH - 17 cards - 4 common/3 uncommon/4 rare/5 ultra rare/1 phantom
SPELLS - 20 cards - 6 common/9 uncommon/4 rare/1 ultra rare/0 phantom
OTHER - 1 card (white cubic) / ultra-rare

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Commons - 30 cards
Uncommons - 30 cards
Rares - 25 cards
Ultra Rares - 20 cards (including White Cubic)
Phantoms - 5 cards

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Finding an ultra-rare card will roughly be 1 in every 3 or 4 booster packs. So based on these stats, netting 2 sealed booster boxes (36 packs each) should get you very near a complete set.

Hope this info will enlighten you on how best to approach this game and to build your massive card collection. Cheers!

Update Note: What is that White Cubic card you ask? It is an ultra-rare card that represents an element-independent creature which costs one Mana to summon, but then can be sacrificed in order to summon any unit in your hand for no summon cost.

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0 = Common 1 = Uncommon 2 = Rare 3 = Ultra rare 4 = "Phantom" (rarest)

Cards 001 - 018 : Fire // Cards 019 - 036 : Water // Cards 037 - 054 : Earth // Cards 055 - 072 : Wood
Cards 073 - 089 : Biolith (mecha) // Card 090 : no element (White Cubic) // Cards 091 - 110 : spells

> > * Card Number - Rarity - Card Name

> > * 001 - 0 - Flame Magus
> > * 002 - 0 - Hellfire Splitter
> > * 003 - 0 - Freedonian Wanderer
> > * 004 - 0 - Partmole Flame Lizard
> > * 005 - 1 -
> > * 006 - 2 - Great Minos of Sciondar
> > * 007 - 0 - Flame Ascetic
> > * 008 - 1 -
> > * 009 - 1 -
> > * 010 - 1 -
> > * 011 - 2 -
> > * 012 - 2 -
> > * 013 - 2 - Infernal Sciondar Dragon
> > * 014 - 3 - Red Cubic
> > * 015 - 4 -
> > * 016 - 3 -
> > * 017 - 3 - Sciondar Fire God
> > * 018 - 3 -
> > * 019 - 0 - Monk Elder of Okunada
> > * 020 - 0 - Tritonan Ice Guard
> > * 021 - 0 - Tritonan Harpoonsman
> > * 022 - 0 - Aluhja Priestess
> > * 023 - 1 -
> > * 024 - 1 - Wolf Ninja
> > * 025 - 1 - Cloud Runner
> > * 026 - 2 -
> > * 027 - 0 - Venoan Assassin
> > * 028 - 2 -
> > * 029 - 2 -
> > * 030 - 2 -
> > * 031 - 2 - Dragon of Voice Sea
> > * 032 - 3 - Mercenary Savior Latoo
> > * 033 - 4 -
> > * 034 - 3 -
> > * 035 - 3 -
> > * 036 - 2 -
> > * 037 - 0 - Verzas Canine
> > * 038 - 0 - Verzar Foot Soldier
> > * 039 - 0 - Stone Wing Dwarf
> > * 040 - 0 - Skeleton Soldier
> > * 041 - 0 - Giant Axe Dwarf
> > * 042 - 1 -
> > * 043 - 1 -
> > * 044 - 1 -
> > * 045 - 1 - Se Hollyn Fortress
> > * 046 - 2 -
> > * 047 - 1 -
> > * 048 - 1 -
> > * 049 - 2 -
> > * 050 - 3 -
> > * 051 - 4 -
> > * 052 - 3 -
> > * 053 - 3 -
> > * 054 - 2 -
> > * 055 - 0 - Leapfrog Bandit
> > * 056 - 0 - Green Lycanthrope
> > * 057 - 0 - Bewitching Elfe Archeress
> > * 058 - 0 - Sleeptrap
> > * 059 - 1 -
> > * 060 - 1 - Samurai Nagirashu
> > * 061 - 0 - Twin Goblins
> > * 062 - 1 -
> > * 063 - 2 -
> > * 064 - 1 -
> > * 065 - 1 -
> > * 066 - 2 -
> > * 067 - 2 -
> > * 068 - 3 -
> > * 069 - 4 -
> > * 070 - 3 -
> > * 071 - 3 -
> > * 072 - 2 -
> > * 073 - 0 - Biolith Bomber
> > * 074 - 2 -
> > * 075 - 0 - Imperial Biolith Guard
> > * 076 - 0 - Biolith Battle Chariot
> > * 077 - 0 - Morning Star Warrior
> > * 078 - 2 -
> > * 079 - 1 -
> > * 080 - 1 -
> > * 081 - 1 -
> > * 082 - 2 -
> > * 083 - 2 -
> > * 084 - 3 -
> > * 085 - 3 -
> > * 086 - 4 -
> > * 087 - 3 -
> > * 088 - 3 -
> > * 089 - 3 -
> > * 090 - 3 - White Cubic
> > * 091 - 1 - Parmetic Holy Feast
> > * 092 - 1 -
> > * 093 - 1 -
> > * 094 - 0 - Beguiling Fog
> > * 095 - 0 - Yuga's Mesmerizing Fog
> > * 096 - 0 - Clare Wil's Banner
> > * 097 - 0 - Healing Shower
> > * 098 - 0 - Fissure of Goghlie
> > * 099 - 2 -
> > * 100 - 0 - Summoner Mesmer's Errand
> > * 101 - 1 -
> > * 102 - 1 -
> > * 103 - 1 -
> > * 104 - 1 -
> > * 105 - 1 -
> > * 106 - 1 -
> > * 107 - 3 -
> > * 108 - 2 -
> > * 109 - 2 -
> > * 110 - 2 -
 
[quote name='FatBoyInside']But have you considered that its on-screen representation might kick-ass?[/QUOTE]
I have. But there's no pictures of its on-screen representation. Just commenting on the card.
 
First review out by IGN >>> 8.0 Score (Impressive)

+ Great presentation & mechanics; fun direct player VS player duels
- No single story campaign; game geared towards select audience (card-battle fans only)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/827/827260p1.html

Wowza...IGN said you can trick the PS Eye with hi-quality color copies of the cards...that sux major for the collectible aspect of the cards and legit online players. I can see a lot of "third party" complete decks going for cheap in the black market.
 
Yep, this is why I think the collectable idea is kinda stupid.

They should just make it like a board game, or a normal card game. There's been quite a bit of success in the board/card game industry by making games in sets.
 
[quote name='FatBoyInside']First review out by IGN >>> 8.0 Score (Impressive)

+ Great presentation & mechanics; fun direct player VS player duels
- No single story campaign; game geared towards select audience (card-battle fans only)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/827/827260p1.html

Wowza...IGN said you can trick the PS Eye with hi-quality color copies of the cards...that sux major for the collectible aspect of the cards and legit online players. I can see a lot of "third party" complete decks going for cheap in the black market.[/quote]

Isn't their knock off cards for magic and other games? Seems like the EoJ market would be small compared to the other major card collecting games. But the kind of people that would buy EoJ might also be the ones that would snatch up a set of knock offs... Come to think of it??? Where can I get a complete set :)
 
It's disappointing that you can copy cards, but really, I would feel like a douche using fake cards as it takes all the fun out of getting them. I've never been into card games but I still think I'll try to get all these cards, just to be able to use the full potential of the game.
 
^ True, we can still collect 'em the right way, but this puts a major damper on online play - knowing anyone and everyone very well may be using a fully loaded deck of printouts. That's takes a huge amount of the potential online fun out, but it's the nature of the camera-based game, I suppose. I doubt there is any way they could have prevented it. It'll still be fun for local play.
 
Just a reminder, the themed decks ($14.99) and booster packs ($3.99) will be available starting Monday Oct.15th at your local GameStop stores...and probably at most videogame/card shop retailers. You can start building your perfect deck...but please, no request for high-quality card scans or images in this thread. Support this awesome game!
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']^ True, we can still collect 'em the right way, but this puts a major damper on online play - knowing anyone and everyone very well may be using a fully loaded deck of printouts. That's takes a huge amount of the potential online fun out, but it's the nature of the camera-based game, I suppose. I doubt there is any way they could have prevented it. It'll still be fun for local play.[/QUOTE]

According to wikipedia they did something with the printing to prevent photocopying.
 
I'd like to pick this game up, but the cheapass in me says to wait as it doesn't sound like this game is going to do numbers. It's bad enough the PS3 install base isn't that high to begin with, but it being TCG niche (and even TCG guys, while they can be big spenders on their cards, tend to be pretty picky/critical of new stuff overall) I'm wondering if this will end up being another one of those clearance eye toy disasters in six months?

I'm contemplating getting it through amazon as it's currently $65.99 shipped free, but I know I'll kick myself if it ends up going DOTD.

Also, anyone know where they are selling booster boxes? I'd pick up a couple of those if I do end up getting the game.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']According to wikipedia they did something with the printing to prevent photocopying.[/quote]

Ohh really? Does it have to do with the registration of individual cards to your console?

I've heard people talk about that, but never any concrete details. I'll check the page, but yeah, I suppose that WOULD be a way to prevent it, huh - making a card unusable online if it's already been registered to another console (and then not unregistered at a later date if the person were to sell/trade it).
 
[quote name='Oops! I did it again.']Ohh really? Does it have to do with the registration of individual cards to your console?

I've heard people talk about that, but never any concrete details. I'll check the page, but yeah, I suppose that WOULD be a way to prevent it, huh - making a card unusable online if it's already been registered to another console (and then not unregistered at a later date if the person were to sell/trade it).[/quote]

Your card decks have to be registered in their database online before you can play I believe. Can't look up the quote right now. My question is how it affects people who buy/trade single cards to other people.
 
That's odd, that'd mean they have to have a special printing process that prints a unique code on every one of the uncommon or at least rare cards out there. I don't really see that happening.
 
I'll probably pickup a 2 decks to play without the Eye and try out the gameplay first.

Of course, that's assuming you can play without it, and that there's a rulebook included in the deck.
 
Ok, pre-ordered the game from Amazon. There's still some time left to cancel if I end up getting cold feet.

Also couldn't really find anywhere that sells the factory booster boxes except ebay. Retails for $135? Ebay had it for about $104 + shipping. I'll just see how I like the game before picking up any boosters.
 
[quote name='Vanigan']I'll probably pickup a 2 decks to play without the Eye and try out the gameplay first.

Of course, that's assuming you can play without it, and that there's a rulebook included in the deck.[/quote]

You can. The PS3 is just to make it pretty and add flair. There's that online part too if you're into that.
 
What theme-decks are you guy planning to buy, first? I'm leaning towards WATER and BIOLITH. I wish there were more info about particular specialties and attributes associated with each element.
 
Pretty broke ATM, but i really want to get an EoJ starter . . .

Guess I'll have super hustle this weak for some sell-able Yugimonz :lol:

Or just dimantle my award-winning deck and sell it. Hmm . . . it does fetch about $300 on eBay, enough to buy EoJ, some starters, and have actually have money in my pocket . . . but then I won't have a sure-fire way to destroy people . . .

CURSE MY UNHEALTHY ADDICTION TO CARDBOARD BASED GAMES~!
 
Blog from Penny Arcade website reveals more info concerning the online mode of EOJ. Here are some highlights:

Essentially, you "register" your thirty card deck with the system itself, where it is stored and named for future use. This process is extremely straightforward: it is simply a matter of you laying your cards anywhere on the mat, a few at a time. It will probably take two minutes if you really keep on it. Then, you jump online, choose what nation you want to play for, and track down a partner. At this point, the game will "draw" you your five card hand by showing you the card art onscreen. You get one Mulligan (or redraw), but if you like your hand you move into the game proper. We laid out our deck by element, face up, and this smoothed the turn to turn process considerably.

In the build we have, and I hope this is changed for release, it shows you these cards in a single file line without their name or text - just the art. Once you got familiar with these images, slightly modified from their card format, it's pretty quick - but the names should be displayed on this screen. You can use the controller to pull up the names, but let's be serious - at no point should the player be forced to interact with a mundane controller once the game is underway.


http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/10/15

Some good info...can't wait til release day.
 
I know it's probably not good for the long-term prospects of the game, but does anyone else feel they're more likely to buy the game knowing that you can just photocopy cards and play? I loved playing M:TG back in the day but one of the things that drove me out was the spiraling costs of staying competitive.

If everyone (or everyone with a color printer) has access to all the cards for online play purposes, it should level the playing field and allow the better deck designs/better players to shine through. Just my initial reaction ...
 
GameStop didn't have any of the cards, yet...and apparently won't get them until the game comes out.

UPDATE: Their website has changed to an Oct.25th release, so I guess it was erroneous. Sorry guys, but just only 9 more days.
 
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