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We’re pleased to announce Fallout: New Vegas digital pre-order packs are now available in North America through participating retailers and will be available worldwide soon. The Classic, Tribal, Caravan, and Mercenary packs each contain in-game items offered exclusively through GameStop, Amazon, Steam, Walmart and Best Buy.
More details after the break…

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The Classic Pack (pictured above), available when you pre-order through GameStop, contains:

  • Armored Vault 13 Suit – Extensively patched up and dotted with piecemeal armor, this outfit is an homage to the classic ending of the original Fallout.
  • Vault 13 Canteen – This handy device is useful for staving off dehydration and providing a small amount of healing in the Mojave Wasteland.
  • Weathered 10mm Pistol – A well-worn 10mm pistol that packs an extra punch despite its modest size.
  • 5 Stimpaks – Food and water are good for long-term healing, but when the fighting is fierce, Stimpaks help keep Wastelanders upright.
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The Tribal Pack, available when you pre-order through Amazon, contains:

  • Tribal Raiding Armor – Pieced together from scraps of armor, this outfit provides protection without impacting mobility.
  • Broad Machete – This heavy-bladed melee weapon does high damage against limbs and can quickly deal out a flurry of attacks.
  • 5 Bleak Venom doses – Useful on any Melee Weapon, Bleak Venom makes short of work of most living targets.
  • 10 Throwing Spears – If you would like to silently pin an enemy’s head to a wall, Throwing Spears are the way to do it.
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The Caravan Pack, available when you pre-order through Steam and Walmart, contains:

  • Lightweight Leather Armor – This hand-modified suit of leather armor reduces its overall weight without impacting its ability to protect.
  • Sturdy Caravan Shotgun – Despite its rough appearance, this Caravan Shotgun will reliably fire 20 gauge shells until the Brahmin come home.
  • 4 Repair Kits – Useful for repairing any outfit or weapon, Repair Kits are a valuable tool for any caravaner.
  • Binoculars – The Mojave Wasteland is a dangerous place, but with these trusty Binoculars you’ll be able to spot trouble coming.
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The Mercenary Pack, available when you pre-order through Best Buy, contains:

  • Lightweight Metal Armor – Modified for long-range travel, this Metal Armor sacrifices some protection for mobility and overall weight.
  • Mercenary’s Grenade Rifle – Though similar to other 40mm Grenade Rifles in the Mojave Wasteland, this model has a faster reload cycle.
  • 3 Super Stimpaks – When you absolutely, positively, need to keep your blood inside your body, Super Stimpaks fix you up in no time.
  • 3 Doctors Bags – Mercenaries and broken limbs go together like Iguana-on-a-Stick and Nuka Cola. Thankfully, these Doctors Bags take a bit of sting out of the inevitable crushed skull.

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Collector's Edition revealed:

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The Fallout: New Vegas Collector's Edition comes with:
  • Let it Ride! In a huge, open world with unlimited options you can see the sights, choose sides, or go it alone. Peacemaker or Hard Case, House Rules, or the Wild Card - it’s all in how you play the game
  • “Lucky 7” poker chips. Each of the seven poker chips was designed to represent chips from the major casinos found on the New Vegas strip and throughout the Mojave Wasteland.
  • A fully customized Fallout: New Vegas deck of cards. Each card in the pack has been uniquely illustrated to depict characters and factions found within the game. Use the cards to play poker, blackjack or Caravan, an original card game that was created by Obsidian especially for New Vegas!
  • A recreation of the game’s highly coveted “Lucky 38” platinum chip.
  • A hardcover graphic novel “All Roads”, that tells the story of some of the characters and events that lead up to Fallout: New Vegas. “All Roads” was written by Chris Avellone, the game’s creative director, and created in conjunction with Dark Horse Comics.
  • ‘The Making of Fallout: New Vegas’ DVD. This documentary DVD will contain exclusive video content, including interviews with the developers in which they take you from concept to creation and discuss topics such as story, setting, legacy of the Fallout franchise and more.

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At a Bethesda press event in London today, our very own Jem Alexander learned of a brand new addition to the Fallout universe. Fallout: New Vegas will be available on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360 next year, courtesy of Alpha Protocol developer Obsidian Entertainment.

No other details have been revealed yet, but we're certain Jem will lockpick and hack his way to as much information as he can. We'll feed him to the mutants if he doesn't.

Update: The title is "just Fallout: New Vegas. No number. It's not a sequel." For those worried this non-numbered expansion would be a party game, fret not. It's "definitely an RPG," according to Bethesda VP Pete Hines. Obsidian Entertainment was founded by Fergus Urquhart who, along with a few other Obsidian guys, worked on the original Fallout. The team was approached by Bethesda and "jumped at the chance" to work on this new title.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/20/fallout-new-vegas-coming-to-consoles-next-year/

All we have at the moment. I'm sure once E3 rolls around, we'll hear more of this.
 
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I would have rather had an Elder Scrolls V announcement, but I guess this will do. I put way too many hours into Fallout 3.
 
[quote name='Sparta Omni']I'm pretty sure the next Elder Scrolls is an MMO, unless they changed their minds.[/QUOTE]
I hope not. That would make me sad.
 
[quote name='Sparta Omni']It was announced about two years ago, but since I've heard it's been canceled on and off.
Who knows?[/quote]

There's gotta be a reason Bethesda isn't doing Fallout: New Vegas, and I'm thinking that it's because of Elder Scrolls!
 
I actually heard it wasn't MMO per se. It's a multiplayer game, but I've heard it limits itself to a party of about four or five. Which seems perfect, IMO.
 
Obsidian has a track record of bringing games out on time. I have a boner the size of Florida right now. With their work on Alpha Protocol I hope they bring a bit more weight to the battles that I felt Fallout 3 was lacking, more of a COD4 feel....Great news.
 
Shouldn't take long to make. I imagine it would primarily be the existing Fallout game's assets, with maybe some minimal visual tweaks for lighting and whatnot.

[quote name='drktrpr1']There's gotta be a reason Bethesda isn't doing Fallout: New Vegas, and I'm thinking that it's because of Elder Scrolls![/quote]

It's definitely Elder Scrolls. A followup to Oblivion was all greenlighted and scheduled to come out like a year or two after Oblivion, but Bethesda managed to get hold of the Fallout license and put the next Elder Scrolls game on hold. I wouldn't be surprised if it's already half finished by now.

Hopefully they'll finally get item management right this time. Oblivion was a pain in the ass, especially with all the bugged quest items you couldn't even drop.
 
I imagine it will have some neon lights to counter-act the overwhelming presence of brown.

Vault 101 will be a Casino. You know what that means? Gambling and cheap buffets!
 
I am still excited about this announcement. I am always open to new Fallout games (except the tactics franchise). I even made this really bad picture to show my love:

FalloutVegasVacation2.jpg
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Lol, we're gonna have casino overload. Dead Rising 2, Fallout: New Vegas.[/quote]

And This Is Vegas, if it ever comes out.. which I hope it does.
 
I'm looking forward to this! So what do you think: will we start with a character who isn't from a vault?
 
When I first saw the thread title I thought this was gonna be awesome DLC for Fallout 3... I'm sad that it's a stand-alone game, would've been awesome DLC
 
I thought the trailer was very UNDERWHELMING. I know it's similar to the Fallout 3 trailer on purpose, but THAT trailer worked because we had never seen Fallout portrayed in a full 3D world before. THIS trailer was just plain uninspiring.

I'll still get it, of course (when it's cheap enough), but 3 company stooges tweeting how Fallout fans are going to cream their pants after today's news built it up too much. Ok, maybe it wasn't THAT strongly worded, but I still expected better. I think I'd rather have just had a mess of in-game screenshots.
 
[quote name='keithp']I thought the trailer was very UNDERWHELMING. I know it's similar to the Fallout 3 trailer on purpose, but THAT trailer worked because we had never seen Fallout portrayed in a full 3D world before. THIS trailer was just plain uninspiring.

I'll still get it, of course (when it's cheap enough), but 3 company stooges tweeting how Fallout fans are going to cream their pants after today's news built it up too much. Ok, maybe it wasn't THAT strongly worded, but I still expected better. I think I'd rather have just had a mess of in-game screenshots.[/QUOTE]

I Agree. Loved Fallout 3 and mos def going to get this but the trailer was meh at best. Give me some gameplay footage!
 
It's a teaser, and the game isn't due until the fall. Besides, if you're a fan of the Fallout series, seeing the NCR flag should have made you cream your pants, shit your pants, and beyond. I'm hyped. And I'm definitely interested to see how Vegas either survived the Great War or was actually rebuilt.
 
i like how the buildings were lit up, could make for a different experience. either way this will most likely be a day one purchase if i can afford it, god i think i might have to play fallout 3 again soon.
 
The teaser was what is was, a teaser.

So the name alone is the only thing that has me interested at this point. I hope they get some screenshots out soon. Because i want to see if it's going to be the same kind of gameplay mechanics as Fallout3. Or become something else new.

I am still trying to figure out why a robot in the desert needs a TV on it's chest? :p
 
[quote name='ppself']The teaser was what is was, a teaser.

So the name alone is the only thing that has me interested at this point. I hope they get some screenshots out soon. Because i want to see if it's going to be the same kind of gameplay mechanics as Fallout3. Or become something else new.

I am still trying to figure out why a robot in the desert needs a TV on it's chest? :p[/QUOTE]

dont all robots have cool TV's on their chests lol
 
[quote name='keithp']I thought the trailer was very UNDERWHELMING. I know it's similar to the Fallout 3 trailer on purpose, but THAT trailer worked because we had never seen Fallout portrayed in a full 3D world before. THIS trailer was just plain uninspiring.

I'll still get it, of course (when it's cheap enough), but 3 company stooges tweeting how Fallout fans are going to cream their pants after today's news built it up too much. Ok, maybe it wasn't THAT strongly worded, but I still expected better. I think I'd rather have just had a mess of in-game screenshots.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='bigdaddybruce44']It's a teaser, and the game isn't due until the fall. Besides, if you're a fan of the Fallout series, seeing the NCR flag should have made you cream your pants, shit your pants, and beyond. I'm hyped. And I'm definitely interested to see how Vegas either survived the Great War or was actually rebuilt.[/QUOTE]

I was going to make a reply to keithp but bigdaddybruce44 already did it for me. NCR!
 
[quote name='yukafls']dont all robots have cool TV's on their chests lol[/QUOTE]


Well, not only does he have a tv on his chest. But a "working" tv. :p

I guess after the apocalypse we be well assured to have tv's for our
entertainment.

I do wish the teaser was more like the Fallout3 one where you went through the bus and junk to the Brotherhood soldier.
 
I haven't really heard anything about this (I still have yet to beat Fallout 3), but is this going to be another FPS-style RPG like 3 was, or is it not known at this time?
 
Hmm...

Vegas looked in pretty decent shape with lights and buildings still standing (compared to DC which was basically annihilated in Fallout 3). The character dressed in black (a uniform?) and the NCR flag is interesting.

Perhaps the NCR is looking to expand their territories and Vegas is their place to take over? It'd be sweet if the game revolved around a war over the control of a still fairly functional Vegas, and even sweeter if you could play as a NCR solider or just a Vegas commoner trying to defend his ground.
 
One thing they definitely need to have is another sweet soundtrack of oldies. The inclusion of "Blue Moon" in the teaser gives me hope. I'm gonna miss President Eden, though.
 
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19666638&postcount=530

Lots of new info from NeoGAF:

# There is an optional hardcore mode, the character needs to drink water, ammo has weight, healing isn't instant etc.

# Normal mode is more similar to Fallout 3 gameplay.

# The storyline is focused on the New California Republic vs. Caesar's Legion (slavers from the east) vs. New Vegas residents.

# You are not a vault dweller but are given a Pip-Boy by someone who is one.

# There is a screenshot of a vault suit as well.

# There is an assault rifle looking like the M4, as well as a new big gun with a backpack, held like a minigun.

# There are special moves for melee weapons in VATS - specifically a move for a golf club called "Fore" which seems to be a groin shot.

# The Hoover Dam is in the game and is supplying electricity to the city.

# There is a quest to rescue a ghoul from some super mutants. The ghoul can then become your companion

# The Geckos are back.

# There are both dumb and intelligent super mutants, including the elite Nightkin. On at least one occasion you can convince them to fight amongst themselves.

# Some super mutants look similar to the ones in Fallout 3, while others are new. There is e.g. a female super mutant with a 1950s hairstyle who apparently is one of their leaders.

# Screenshots include a guy with a beard and straw hat, a ghoul and an NCR Ranger.

# The only picture of New Vegas itself is concept art and not a screenshot.

# Some location screenshots include a huge model dinosaur advertising a hotel, some satellite dishes, an array of solar panels

# A character generation shot showing a "vigour machine" instead of the skill book

# NCR base is the McCarran Airport, Caesar's Legion is based in the Vegas Strip, while super mutants are based in a place called Black Mountain.

# There is also a town called Fremont and another called Primm. A topless reuve is mentioned as being in the latter. Area 51 also appears.

# NCR Ranger armor is similar to a brown combat armor with sleeves, there are concept arts of a Ranger.

# Skils have a bigger effect on conversation choices. E.g. someone with a high Explosives skill may be able to have a coversation about explosives where appropriate.

# There is a Reputation system in addition to Karma.

# First-person action RPG with the same engine as Fallout 3.

# Set in the Mojave wastelands. Vegas didn't get many nukes. More intact buildings, as well as desert vegetation. Vegas itself is mostly intact.

# Both karma and reputation are tracked. If I'm reading it right there's separate reputations for each of the settlements, as in 1 and 2.

# All dialogue options are shown to all players, regardless of whether you have the stats to succeed or not, though there's no punishment for failure.

# Bartering is not just lower prices but negotiating for better rewards.

# Weapons also now have knock-back upon death, with shotguns sending people flying.

# Followers can be managed through a context-sensitive menu, with orders like "follow", "stay" or "attack".

# You're a courier, wounded and left for dead in a shallow grave. A friendly robot, Victor, digs you out, and his doctor owner Mitchell patches you up. You take a "vigour test", which is some sort of electric parlour game. This decides who you are and sets up SPECIAL. You can also take some Rorschach tests, but the mag says this is for fun. The Doc then gives you a Pipboy as he was once a Vault dweller.

# "Hoover Dam", and "Helios" (a solar plant, confirmed by the mag to have been built by Poseidon) are fought into and then you can direct the power to wherever you choose. In the case of Helios you can also keep the plant for your self, use the energy to call down a powerful laser, or even try to distribute to all equally, however there is a risk of overloading the reactors.

# There is a "reputation system", in which all three factions (NCR, Ceasar's Legion and the locals) will either see you as good or bad toward them individually.

# There is a screenshot of three Capital Wasteland mutants running toward the player, who is wielding what *looks* to be a heavy incinerator, but has a TV screen and no flamer fuel tanks. He's also wearing NCR combat armour, which is in gold/mustard colours.

# There are two separate screens of supermutants that look to be more local, grey skin, and the two are wearing very different clothes. One is Tabitha, who is hearing a blonde wig and love heart glasses. The mag implies she's "not all there".

# On that quest, you rescue Raul, a ghoul who Tabitha kept alive to fix her favourite robot. He appears to be a follower, as the mag says you can give him items, and also commands, such as "stay, follow or attack", and also tell him to switch to melee, in which case he'll mutter "sure, I'll put away my rather effective gun, and switch to this piece of um, metal tubing here".

# From what I read, the "all dialog" thing seems to imply there will be failures for skill checks as well as speech checks, though, as the mag states, there is no penalty for failing a skill check. In fact, the mag gives an example: A woman who the player tried a Sneak skill attempt on in conversation failed when convincing her an ambush would help the town be rid of a gang of raiders. She simply says "Good luck with your, uh, ambush"

# Vault 21 is in the game
 
I need this game now. Great teaser trailer. Weird how Vegas wasn't leveled like D.C. I might be missing something from the storyline though.
 
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