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[quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='Mr_hockey66']I agree hiccup that the otts can be fun. Everyone one needs some humor and thats the place to go. Its nice to have a different topic on the boards when things are slow. The main problem is that it has become a gang of the same people posting. Its offensive. Its out of hand. Its creating problems for the site, new memebrs, old members, its causing fights. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was controlled and not as much. Some people have to work. If I get started it on one topic by time I come home from work its 15 pages long. I think your getting upset cause of a difference of opion. You make this topic then get mad when people say they have a problem with it!? I like the OTTer you guys are a great group. I like the no OTT thery too are a great group. I just think that the OTT topics hurt the site more then they help. I come here for videogame deals. First and formost. If I was a new visiitor and saw some of the crap that has been going on on this site the last few months I would not join here. It seems to childish and hate to say it but very much like gamefags![/quote]

O.K. You have a point there at times it can be offensive to certain groups I guess and it does get a little out of hand sometimes but I have never seen it causing fights. THe only fights I see it cause is by those who dislike the OTs and the OTTs in particular. ANd I already agreed with those wishing for it to be off the front page, fine let's end that conversation but I still don't see the problems that it causes for new members or old members. I mean I see members like Jimmiemac and DennisDFat and if you don't know who they are than they can send people away. But seriously, if there are no Vs. forums or OT forums on the frontpage will it really help any. Will you see every deal? NO most likely not and I don't think CHeapy wants just everyone to see the deals wihtout registering to be a user as well.[/quote]

I've skipped most of the pages here (it has grown almost exponentially since I left for class). But it sounds like the OTTs have come under pretty heavy fire. Now, I'm a pretty conservative type of guy - very traditional. And I know things have gotten out of hand in the OTTs lately. Sometimes I want to puke. I know the pages sometime fly by. But honestly, what concern is that of yours? If you don't like it, don't visit it. I have at times enjoyed being in the OTT. Sometimes, it gets a little rowdy, so I roll my eyes and wait it out. Heck, someone mentioned how there can be fifteen pages when they get home from work, those are usually the rowdy segments! The topic will likely be over soon! If you don't want to read the random jibberjabber or possible pervertedness that happened over the past few hours, don't sit down and read the fifteen pages. It's just like when people were posting every other post about Naruto. I don't care about Naruto, I had never heard of it before, and I didn't want to learn about it. So I'd skip those posts!!! I know, it's amazing, but you too can do it! In fact, the recent spree thread a couple weeks ago that everyone now has a t-shirt in their sig for, I skipped *gasp* the whole thing!!! It's true! But guess, what? It was gone in just a few hours. I guess this is a good time to change my sig. We can't be Nazi's. We're not going to censor on this site. If someone wants to just get away from life, they need their OTT. I don't always participate in the OTT nonsense, but everyone of those OTTers are good guys. After we take away the OTT from the front page, and censor what they can type and how many posts they cab have per hour, what are we gonna do next? March them to Auschwitz?

The same thing holds true for the trolls everyone complains about. If DDF bothers you, say something if it makes you feel big. But this, "OMD, W3 H@V3 2 |3@N |-| iM !!!!shift+one@!!!!!1" has to stop.

People whine about being sick of the trolls, of the stupid topics, of the OTTs, etc... Well, leave the site then! Something far worse than all of that is the whining that goes on! And don't try to twist my words, I'm not saying that you can't whine. That, too, is your right. But if all of these things are making your life such a horrible existence, why not do something about it (leave?), rather than whine people to death?
 
Yeah, at least when Jimmie posts I can understand what he's saying. He spells correctly and uses correct grammar.
 
Going back to what was said about one word replies,a dns miley replies. I am personally going to start deleting those posts. Every time I see a "lol" or a ":lol:" or "+1" or some other one word add nothing reply, it will be deleted by my hand.
 
I really can't type. Last time I checked I didn't know there was a funny post competition. The thing is I can take a joke and put them out. You know if you don't like me great. If you do cool. You know what...I really don't care if you like me. Heres what I think If I find agreat deal I will try to help you out. If you find a deal It would be nice if you helped me out. I try to be funny if you get it great if not oh well. Some are better at being funny some are good at arguments some lurk some post like they are on crack. I know you have made people laugh. You have made some mad from your posts. I think the same goes for me. I'll defend you when your right and tell you when your wrong. I like to mess with you hope that you can pull a joke on me. Like they say if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='Mr_hockey66']maybe you should read the rest. As I was saying that he may be an unfunny douche bag. Hes intitled to be an unfunny douche bag. You may not like what he has to say but he still has the right to say it. Lay off the juice man. And just for the fun of it. What have I done to you?[/quote]

People think of you as my younger, more retarded, unfunnier brother. You have all the hate I do but yet you lack the smarts to get it down in the typed form.[/quote]

See this is what I'm talking about. It's wonderful! :lol:

And I did read your whole post but only that one line was worth responding to.
 
[quote name='"MorPhiend[/quote']

You're reducing the whole argument to "if you don't like it don't read it" when it's more than that, it's about the shit that goes on in the OTT starts to permeate the rest of the topics. It about when the dude that things he's a horse pops into a trading thread real quick to say he likes to eat bagles because one of the OTT guys dared him.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='zewone'][quote name='JimmieMac']First of all,I'm THE single greatest player in the Halo 2 clan.[/quote]

:roll: :lol:[/quote]

Every one is a critic.

When will we be on tonight?[/quote]

A couple of us are getting on in about 30 minutes. And thats the last time I'll got off topic in this thread.
 
[quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='"MorPhiend[/quote']

You're reducing the whole argument to "if you don't like it don't read it" when it's more than that, it's about the shit that goes on in the OTT starts to permeate the rest of the topics. It about when the dude that things he's a horse pops into a trading thread real quick to say he likes to eat bagles because one of the OTT guys dared him.[/quote]

Some of those are bumps and some are because 2 users are quite well hated for nonOTT reasons.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='Mr_hockey66']No actually jimmi mac is an offensive ahole. Hes not funny and is a douche bag. [/quote]

That's pretty funny coming from you, out of the two of you I vastly prefer JimmieMac. Despite what you believe at times he is quite funny, or so I've come to think.[/quote]

mr hockey is actually pretty funny, he stopped posting as much as he used to though, and people forgot about him. I think a lot of the hate you are directing at him is because he went off on one topic that really needed someone to go off on (I hate the "look at me, I got ____ posts" threads)

who can forget the gyrating superman?

also, he has made several good points throughout this topic.
 
hiccupleftovers, you've been in this thread too long today.

Take some of the 15 mins a day that you have for "everything else" and squeeze one of. That'll make you feel better.

If you hurry you can save the other 10 minutes for eating!
 
[quote name='Trakan']Yeah, at least when Jimmie posts I can understand what he's saying. He spells correctly and uses correct grammar.[/quote]

I should have paid attention in english class. Its that I'm tryiing to type faster then i can. It seems like Im under fire from the OTTs. Im not the only one that has a problem with it. Plus I do remeber saying that I like the oTTs and that they are needed but need to be controlled and calmed down a bit. Its frustratiing to read 15 pages of

+1

:)

lol

ROFL MOOFG!!!}!


I like women.


Thats not needed. If they were topics that were actually being talked about it would be fine. But stuff like when was the last time you took a crap and just the randomness of it makes it the bad part.
 
PS: Just to prove I'm not a total ass....

hiccupleftovers, I like your new Avatar... Magus? Anyway it looks much better than the last rendition.

See.....I care! I-------CARE!!!
 
And thank you casey. It seems to me that they only prob people have with me...welll besides my wonderfull typing ability is that I'm against the Ott. Thats not the case. I just think more poeple would have a better view of them if they could enjoy them too. It s that there is some much so fast and just random stuff people think its crazy. If your like me and have to look at the keyboard too type by the time I look up what I was going to post is two pages back and one a different idea now.


You know maybe computer science isn't the best major for me! :)
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66'][quote name='Trakan']Yeah, at least when Jimmie posts I can understand what he's saying. He spells correctly and uses correct grammar.[/quote]

I should have paid attention in english class. Its that I'm tryiing to type faster then i can. It seems like Im under fire from the OTTs. Im not the only one that has a problem with it. Plus I do remeber saying that I like the oTTs and that they are needed but need to be controlled and calmed down a bit. Its frustratiing to read 15 pages of

+1

:)

lol

ROFL MOOFG!!!}!


I like women.


Thats not needed. If they were topics that were actually being talked about it would be fine. But stuff like when was the last time you took a crap and just the randomness of it makes it the bad part.[/quote]

See now your talking about me and thats where it needs to stop. I'm not pointing anyone out so leave me out of this.
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66'][quote name='Trakan']Yeah, at least when Jimmie posts I can understand what he's saying. He spells correctly and uses correct grammar.[/quote]

I should have paid attention in english class. Its that I'm tryiing to type faster then i can. It seems like Im under fire from the OTTs. Im not the only one that has a problem with it. Plus I do remeber saying that I like the oTTs and that they are needed but need to be controlled and calmed down a bit. Its frustratiing to read 15 pages of

+1

:)

lol

ROFL MOOFG!!!}!


I like women.


Thats not needed. If they were topics that were actually being talked about it would be fine. But stuff like when was the last time you took a crap and just the randomness of it makes it the bad part.[/quote]

#-o Then don't fucking read it! DER!
 
I Wasn't pointing any one out. What are you talking about.? If I pointing you out I would have said your name. Boy you gladies have you panties in a wad tonight!
 
[quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='MorPhiend'][/quote]

You're reducing the whole argument to "if you don't like it don't read it" when it's more than that, it's about the s*** that goes on in the OTT starts to permeate the rest of the topics. It about when the dude that things he's a horse pops into a trading thread real quick to say he likes to eat bagles because one of the OTT guys dared him.[/quote]

Well, like I said, I skipped most of this thread. But I think that that goes back to my previous post as well. Post counts don't mean anything. They are crap. And if there is overflowage, that, too, is crap. I agree with you 100% Jimmie.

But my point is more I guess that there are tons of people on here that I don't agree with on some type of issue. But I don't dislike anyone for that because we also have plenty of things in common in other places. I just think that it's sad that people can't just enjoy one another in what is supposed to be a fun community. And that includes the other side, too. It's too bad that someone can't have fun without crapping in someone's thread, but it's sad that someone has to take such offense at being such a moron. I think both sides of these complaint issues just need to take a deep breath and remember that the purpose of this place is extended beyond making a quick deal. This place is a community.

BTW, glad to see that you made it out of the storm last week. :wink:
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']I Wasn't pointing any one out. What are you talking about.? If I pointing you out I would have said your name. Boy you gladies have you panties in a wad tonight![/quote]

I said the "I like women" line today so yeah your singling me out. I really don't care what happens and my panties aren't in a bunch, I just want to stay out of the topic including my posts. I don't care about how any of you feel about me so the shit you type doesn't bother me. No hard feelings at all.
 
i really dont get why any of you care about anything posted in this thread.

jimmie - so hiccup didnt post the CC sale, that dosent mean anything. this is an open forum, if users choose to reside more in the OTT why does it matter? while i did defend you in this thread, i have to say that youre acting like a complete ass today.

cornfed - again, why does it matter if a persons total posts are 80% OT? (i agree with you on the driving other posts off topic, so dont refrence that)

defender - a minimum character limit would be bad, many things can be said in less than 20 characters. not every post needs to be a chapter long.

cheapy - im all for the 5 and 5 split,

i dont understand why you guys hate the OTT so much. if you dont like it, dont go in there. there are other ways to browse the forums than the last 10 posts.. :roll:

keeping or getting rid of post counts? i really dont care either way, i like them, because im a statistics junkie, but i could live w/o them.

myself and the other mods are very good at locking the OTT's when they hit 500 and the OTTers start up a new one, so people post alot...does it matter?

i really dont understand why anyone, let alove EVERYONE is so angry. chill out.
 
I didn't even know that you said that. I just remeber seeing it today. Its also not the first time it has been said. If You thought I was pointing you out then sorry. Im not trying to start any fights here. Im try to help solve a problem. You are taking things a little to serious there bud. Chill and take a breather. You get all bent out of shape when you see some one not agree with your point of view. The thiing is that there is a problem with the Ott now we can do something to help a compromise or we can sit here and call each other poopie heads on a internet chat room. Either way I don't care. Should be fun either way!
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']I didn't even know that you said that. I just remeber seeing it today. Its also not the first time it has been said. If You thought I was pointing you out then sorry. Im not trying to start any fights here. Im try to help solve a problem. You are taking things a little to serious there bud. Chill and take a breather. You get all bent out of shape when you see some one not agree with your point of view. The thiing is that there is a problem with the Ott now we can do something to help a compromise or we can sit here and call each other poopie heads on a internet chat room. Either way I don't care. Should be fun either way![/quote]

Like I said no hard feelings. I don't care. :D
 
While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='JimmieMac']I vote for what ever is needed to do away with this garbage. Banning? Sure. Tougher rules? Yeah, why not. Keep OTTs off the front page? Mos def.

The draw of this site is that 50 bucks is alot of money for video games. It's not how upset you are at your parents or how you might get a hand job on the way to school.

I mean, the only people that are concerned are people that don't have anything else to talk about besides what color their cereal box is and who's on the cover.[/quote]

Well you're an unfunny douche bag that seems like garbage, does that merit a banning then? :roll: Give me a break.[/quote]

No, see the difference is that I contribute to the site, you however, do not. You are a strain on the resources.[/quote]

This should be good. Please oh please Jimmie why don't you tell me how you contribute to the site and how I don't.[/quote]

He contributes better quality posts than you simply because he doesn't have to call people douche bags or assholes because they have a different opinion. He also doesn't feel the need to reply to every single post here at CAG like you seemingly attempt to do.

Funny how you create this thread and it's getting obvious (at least to me) that YOU are a lot of the problem. At the very least you represent the worst of CAG. You make a great bad example of how to NOT be.
 
I can't believe I'm bumping a question from earlier in the thread but I am very interested in the answer if anyone could help. I know I know I'm supposed to be Mr. Answer. But to get to know the answers one must first be able to ask questions.

on a different path.... I thought I remember reading in the archives somesort of celebration when CAG reach 500,000 posts or 1,000,000 or something like that so that CAG could be on somesort of INTERNET BOARD RANKING PAGE...i.e. that proves the amount of traffic to site or something like that which would help Cheapy make some more money. If there is a big cut in the sheer number of posts would that hurt CAG's profitibility in the end?

Sorry if I have my numbers wrong..I am going on a distant memory here from looking through a ton of old threads when I joined (and lurked for a long time)

Do posts like +1, and OTT stuff actually help Cheapy earn money? if so I don't think anything should be changed.


http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38289&highlight=posts
 
[quote name='JSweeney']While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.[/quote]

Oh ho, and who might these foul beings be, these vagrants that abuse the gift given to them :wink:?
 
poopie head! :)

Cheapy I do like the split though. I do live by the front page. I normally only get a couple minutes a day now to check the boards. I don't have the time to search for a deal. When I get on I normally just check the front page and see what deals are going on and then get off. Some 80% of the day when I check all I see is the OTT stuff. Buy the time i get home I have missed all of the deals that went on during the day. I keep thinkiing that I missed it cause just the random stuff was on the front page. So thats why I have an issuse with the Otts If I didn't see it on the front page I have no problem with them. Again I have no problem with you guys. In fact I like you guys. YOur a big part of this community. Thats one of the reasons I hang out here. You get great deals and there are some cool peple here. This is turing into a two sided community the OTT and The NOn OTT. We should be one.

I see why people have a problem with the post counts though. The OTTs have thousdans of posts and it makes them look like a estabnlished person even if they have only been here a couple weeks or months. This may effect trades. People think they are a big part of the community. I could care less about posts. Some people have a thing were it does effect them. They feel less or weaker or insignificant because they have so few posts. Then when they do posts they get the neebie jokes and such. It just ailenates some.
 
JSweeney, before I go home to make dinner for D, I think people needed to be reminded of this, don’t you think? :wink:

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Breathe in, breathe out…

It’s only a message board… :cool:

People, please don’t make me lock this thread. I was just practicing merging threads today and locking threads may be a little too much of responsibilities for me at a time… :baby:
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin'][quote name='JSweeney']While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.[/quote]

Oh ho, and who might these foul beings be, these vagrants that abuse the gift given to them :wink:?[/quote]

Some of the edits to the now infamous "Moxio's Moldy Boner" OTT, for instance, form a good basis for this argument.

This is not a crusade against you Sneaky. You made your feeling clear about that. You answer to CheapyD. I can live with that. I'll abide by whatever CheapyD decides. However, CheapyD cannot and will not be everywhere (especially in thread that die in the course of hours), and a rogue mod can hurt the image of the site much more than the average poster.
 
[quote name='punqsux']i dont understand why you guys hate the OTT so much. if you dont like it, dont go in there. there are other ways to browse the forums than the last 10 posts.. :roll:[/quote]

I don't like it punq, and I usually don't go there. I would love to ignore it, not read it, and completely forget that it exists. That's kind of hard to do when it's on the front page constantly. Yes, you are correct in that there are other ways to view the forums other than the last 10 posts. So since the OTT caters to such a small group, why not make them make the extra 2 clicks to get there? I think it annoys a greater number of people more to see it every time they go to CAG than it would for the OTTers to go into the OT forum (which I'm sure they do anyway). I'm not asking for an OTT ban, I just don't want to see it anymore. I still don't see how this is so unreasonable.

Also (and I think you may have implied this) I absolutely abhor the "Hey look I just got 1902730923 posts" threads. People will say "I don't care about post count" and then go on for 20 pages about the number of posts they have. Its really obnoxious, and when you see 3 of them on the front page and they each have 300 posts, it gets to you after awhile.

[quote name='punqsux']keeping or getting rid of post counts? i really dont care either way, i like them, because im a statistics junkie, but i could live w/o them.[/quote]

It's an example of a small number of people ruining it for the rest of us. I think it's interesting to see how many posts people have, but then you have the idiots racing to get to 8000 and bragging about it. It's already happened, and multiple times at that. I think that if we eliminate post counts, we eliminate assinine threads like I've described. It's sad that it's come to this, but it has.

[quote name='punqsux']myself and the other mods are very good at locking the OTT's when they hit 500 and the OTTers start up a new one, so people post alot...does it matter?[/quote]

Again, if I didn't have to see it, I'd be fine with it. Also refer to my abhorance of post-whoring. Posting alot is different than post whoring, and the people that do the latter are the people that get on my nerves.

[quote name='punqsux']i really dont understand why anyone, let alove EVERYONE is so angry. chill out.[/quote]

It's the culmination of a lot of things that have been happening in the past few months. Personally, Crash's 8000 was the last straw for me, and hiccup's thread just happened to come at the wrong place/wrong time. I'm sick of a small group of people thinking that they rule the roost around here. It's less about deals and more about petty teenage drama, and that gets old real quick. I just want it to end. You can't argue in deal threads (not easily anyway), so I say make those threads the most readily available. If you want OT, then go to the OT forum (just like we go to the VS forum for politics). I don't see how that is so unfair. OTTers keep their OTT, and the rest of us don't have to see it. EVERYBODY WINS.
 
[quote name='Mr.Answer']I can't believe I'm bumping a question from earlier in the thread but I am very interested in the answer if anyone could help. I know I know I'm supposed to be Mr. Answer. But to get to know the answers one must first be able to ask questions.

on a different path.... I thought I remember reading in the archives somesort of celebration when CAG reach 500,000 posts or 1,000,000 or something like that so that CAG could be on somesort of INTERNET BOARD RANKING PAGE...i.e. that proves the amount of traffic to site or something like that which would help Cheapy make some more money. If there is a big cut in the sheer number of posts would that hurt CAG's profitibility in the end?

Sorry if I have my numbers wrong..I am going on a distant memory here from looking through a ton of old threads when I joined (and lurked for a long time)

Do posts like +1, and OTT stuff actually help Cheapy earn money? if so I don't think anything should be changed.


http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38289&highlight=posts[/quote]

Well if I understand it correctly its indirectly, the site makes most of its money off of items purchased through links to sponsors, ie gamestop. Being on bigboards due to 500,000 posts simply gives us another way to get more users which leads to more items bought that in turn gives the site more funds.

At least that is what I got from it the last time CheapyD explained it, also some money is made from clicking the ads on the front page but not as much.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin'][quote name='JSweeney']While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.[/quote]

Oh ho, and who might these foul beings be, these vagrants that abuse the gift given to them :wink:?[/quote]

It must be that damn Trakan. He's always abusing his mod powers :wink:
 
[quote name='JSweeney'][quote name='SneakyPenguin'][quote name='JSweeney']While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.[/quote]

Oh ho, and who might these foul beings be, these vagrants that abuse the gift given to them :wink:?[/quote]

Some of the edits to the now infamous "Moxio's Moldy Boner" OTT, for instance, form a good basis for this argument.

This is not a crusade against you Sneaky. You made your feeling clear about that. You answer to CheapyD. I can live with that. I'll abide by whatever CheapyD decides. However, CheapyD cannot and will not be everywhere (especially in thread that die in the course of hours), and a rogue mod can hurt the image of the site much more than the average poster.[/quote]

Oh I know, hence the wink, but I want it to go on record that once that OTT devolved into the MBOTT, I stayed far away from it. That was when I truely realized the extent of the problem with the OTT's.
 
[quote name='defender'][quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='JimmieMac'][quote name='hiccupleftovers'][quote name='JimmieMac']I vote for what ever is needed to do away with this garbage. Banning? Sure. Tougher rules? Yeah, why not. Keep OTTs off the front page? Mos def.

The draw of this site is that 50 bucks is alot of money for video games. It's not how upset you are at your parents or how you might get a hand job on the way to school.

I mean, the only people that are concerned are people that don't have anything else to talk about besides what color their cereal box is and who's on the cover.[/quote]

Well you're an unfunny douche bag that seems like garbage, does that merit a banning then? :roll: Give me a break.[/quote]

No, see the difference is that I contribute to the site, you however, do not. You are a strain on the resources.[/quote]

This should be good. Please oh please Jimmie why don't you tell me how you contribute to the site and how I don't.[/quote]

He contributes better quality posts than you simply because he doesn't have to call people douche bags or assholes because they have a different opinion. He also doesn't feel the need to reply to every single post here at CAG like you seemingly attempt to do.

Funny how you create this thread and it's getting obvious (at least to me) that YOU are a lot of the problem. At the very least you represent the worst of CAG. You make a great bad example of how to NOT be.[/quote]

I find Jimmiemac funny, but you're kidding yourself if you haven't seen him flame and insult his fair share of people before (I guess in a way we all have me included), but just because he's more clever about it doesn't make the end result that much different.

Also calling Hiccup the worst of CAG is pretty harsh, in fact I think it's a straight up lie, you know you've seen much worse some of whom are still active around here.
 
[quote name='defender'] Funny how you create this thread and it's getting obvious (at least to me) that YOU are a lot of the problem. At the very least you represent the worst of CAG. You make a great bad example of how to NOT be.[/quote]

i dont think that in making this thread, he inteded an alternate title to be "lets bash the ott and blame everything on them"

there was no reason to belittle him like that, how is he the worst of cag? worse than the trolls, hoarders and banned? if hiccup represents the worst of cag, please, count me in as well.
 
[quote name='Neko Hime']JSweeney, before I go home to make dinner for D, I think people needed to be reminded of this, don’t you think? :wink:

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Breathe in, breathe out…

It’s only a message board… :cool:

People, please don’t make me lock this thread. I was just practicing merging threads today and locking threads may be a little too much of responsibilities for me at a time… :baby:[/quote]

Loop, Swoop and pull!

Ready... Aim... Fire! Wait... that one isn't going to help the situation much, is it.

That's true, Neko Hime. It is just a message board.
When I push that text that says "Login/out", for all I know, the message board could cease to exist.

It's supposed to be fun and helpful. If it begins to dominate your life, you have a problem.
Everything in moderation.
That said, I hear the three wise men calling me.
Salut!!
 
Thanks for reply zionfire! (but I am hoping for either mr. or mrs d. to reply....I think this is a big issue.. if they make money on 'post board rankings' then lets have more OTT..if it doesn't really matter well lets commence with a big discussion then.

I would think/posit that defender might know the answer as well.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']While I agree with a great deal of what you're saying, Punqsux, I hardly think most of the mods should be holding themselves up as bastions of fair play and living examples of how a poster should conduct themselves.

There are quite a few mods who impress with thier actions, but there are a couple that just don't get that being mod means that there is a standard expected of you.

It's nice that the atmosphere is mostly casual, and that the mods feel free to joke around with the userbase, but there have been some edits and actions taken by mods that are unecessary, uncalled for, and at some times, obscene.

I don't think anyone should be shouting to loud about any of these problems... there is plenty of blame to go around.[/quote]

Hey, mods were just part of the userbase once as well. And sure, they might all have their moments, but who doesn't? Yes, they shouldn't be obscene, much less while using others' posts, but what do you want Cheapy to do? Hire "professional" mods who get paid $15 an hour for being "perfect"?

Everyone needs to take a chill pill here. And Defender, that remark you just made is completely out of line, unless I missed some big evil plot that was uncovered in the middle of this thread. There is no need to try and tear people down. And that means everyone, not just Defender.

Everyone is taking everything a bit too seriously. In five years is it really going to be important that you made a point of calling someone a dirty name in here or tearing them down?
 
CheapyD and CAG do get minor extra recognition for having X posts. This is true but also it doesn't really correlate to more money (not directly at least).

Punqsuq- Well my main issues with OTT are resources. 1..they make the site slower 2...they enlarge the database size quickly 3...they are poor food for the search engines

Since most search engines only index so much of a single site...the OTT is a huge waste when it is indexed.

Also OTT is used easily for post whores to increase their post count..which only gives in to their need to show off their post count and make topics about every little milestone in their post history. It's silly to congratulate people because they got 2000 posts...who really cares!

It would be acceptable to chill out..and yeah it's no big deal really...I can live with or without it. But I know I am not the only one who is bothered by recent CAG trends of the OT.
 
evilmax17 said it best. That was a great post. Too long to quote. I think that would solve the problems if the Ott were not viewed on the front page. Then the only other argument is the post counts which I think we can live with.
 
Since most search engines only index so much of a single site...the OTT is a huge waste when it is indexed.

Not to mention that when the major search engines send out thier spiders to scan the web, you really don't want to be the site that get grouped by its content when words like incest, pedophilia, whore, and the like are used con frequencia. You'll really hate the userbase that gets drawn in then.

Cheapassgamer has some choice spots on the search engines current.
Those would be a terrible thing to lose.
 
[quote name='defender']Punqsuq- Well my main issues with OTT are resources. 1..they make the site slower 2...they enlarge the database size quickly 3...they are poor food for the search engines[/quote]

solution to 2 and 3. delete the OTT's when they close.

i dont see how 1 OTT makes the site slower, but youre the tech, not me ^^
 
[quote name='Neko Hime']JSweeney, before I go home to make dinner for D, I think people needed to be reminded of this, don’t you think? :wink:

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Breathe in, breathe out…

It’s only a message board… :cool:

People, please don’t make me lock this thread. I was just practicing merging threads today and locking threads may be a little too much of responsibilities for me at a time… :baby:[/quote]

Nobody cares what you say, you only have 24 posts! ;)

Seriously, though, that's the best advice I've heard in this whole thread.
 
[quote name='defender']CheapyD and CAG do get minor extra recognition for having X posts. This is true but also it doesn't really correlate to more money (not directly at least).

Punqsuq- Well my main issues with OTT are resources. 1..they make the site slower 2...they enlarge the database size quickly 3...they are poor food for the search engines

Since most search engines only index so much of a single site...the OTT is a huge waste when it is indexed.

Also OTT is used easily for post whores to increase their post count..which only gives in to their need to show off their post count and make topics about every little milestone in their post history. It's silly to congratulate people because they got 2000 posts...who really cares!

It would be acceptable to chill out..and yeah it's no big deal really...I can live with or without it. But I know I am not the only one who is bothered by recent CAG trends of the OT.[/quote]

Thats a conundrum (I have never tried to actually spell that word) I hope the cheapies get some money, and if posting helps for hosting a good site than long live the OTT and +1 and smileys and all that junk.. but if it isn't a big deal than I'm with you defender and stop post counts, stop OTT on front page, etc etc.

I would also like to humbly submit Defender that you get a Defender avatar...I love pinky and the brain and love the deep meaning of Brain for the techincal supervisor' I dearly loved DEFENDER at the arcade.
 
Okay, it seems like there's some problems with the site. That's fine, there'll always be to improve or fix or whatever. The OTT's shouldn't just be deleted, that won't fix the problem, and it's been proven since he deleted the first 2. It's kind of unfortunate because we've been trying to fix what's broken in the OTT and go back to those times, which we can't go back and look. There's people that don't like them, that's fine because you're encouraged to have an opinion. People look at the Cloudspekk thread as something they'd like to go back to and read, but it's not here. The OTTers have a similar thing with the first 2 OTT's and it'd be nice to not have the others, maybe unless we decide we do, deleted, too.

I don't really care if they're on the top page or not because I don't surf the site that way. Cheapy's solution seems fine to me, but that's the CAG's who use it's problem.

The post limit seems to be an issue. On another forum that I frequent that encourages useful posting has a limit of 40 characters, which is fine, but I feel 30 would be a perfect fit if that is how the site will be going.

Post whoring, I know quite a bit about it, and I've decided to change my ways as of last night when this all came about. I do agree that it should be discouraged when it's all :lol: and :rofl:, but some people feel they have a lot to say, which is good. When I try to say a joke, I'd like to knwo that some others thought it was funny, but they could add more than a smiley. We need for people to have stuff to say or there'd be no new topics or discussions. I don't really care about post counts, I never did and somehow managed to get caught up in it anyway. It's a good way to tell who's the big fish of the site, which can be good for when you're new and don't know how things go around here. I've learned the errors of the dark side that I was following towards and have changed my ways.

I know what hiccup is feeling, I've felt the wrath of JimmieMac, Mr_Hockey66, and evilmax17 and I just shrugged them off because I'm a mellow guy that doesn't like to hate people unless they really give me something to hate them for. Zionoverfire recently managed to do that, but I've forgiven him and we've made up. Through the OTT I've gained many friends on here that I like to talk to, which is why I tend to post here a lot.

The reason we're at CAG and postng here is because we like the site and we want to help it through these tough times. Alienating people who've become well-known isn't the way to help the site. This site isn't just about posting deals to contribute, it's about getting games for cheap, helping others know where certain stores are that have them, and posting. If no one posted, this site would've died long ago. This is what I feel can help the site to become better for a lot of the people here.
 
i think its kinda funny, people used to be against a "private" board for users, and now, people are pretty much demanding they get shipped off to their own secret board...

the ironing is delicious :lol:
 
Sorry if I sound harsh on the Hicup man but hey...does he really have to call someone an asshole? Or a douche bag? It just screams immaturity to me. Maybe I don't participate enough it OT anymore since all I see there usually is useless posts and people making dull comments.
 
[quote name='AdamInPlaidum'][quote name='Neko Hime']JSweeney, before I go home to make dinner for D, I think people needed to be reminded of this, don’t you think? :wink:

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Breathe in, breathe out…

It’s only a message board… :cool:

People, please don’t make me lock this thread. I was just practicing merging threads today and locking threads may be a little too much of responsibilities for me at a time… :baby:[/quote]

Nobody cares what you say, you only have 24 posts! :twisted: [/quote]

Whoa there, tiger! I don't want to be around when Cheapy sees that post... :wink:

Seriously though, Let's all calm down together. We'd hate for Mrs. D to have to experience locking a thread, eh?
 
Bravo crash! Now thats what im talking about. Thats takes some balls my friend. :notworth: I hope my getting onto you guys hasn't given anyone a negitive view of me. I have no hard feeling torwards anyone on this site. I give the smack and I holpe if im annoying some one or offending them that they would tell me. Im sorry again. if anyone thinks that I have been geting onto them or pointing them out. Thats not what im trying to do. I want this site to be the best that it can be for everyone. Compromize is the key.
 
[quote name='defender']Sorry if I sound harsh on the Hicup man but hey...does he really have to call someone an asshole? Or a douche bag? It just screams immaturity to me. Maybe I don't participate enough it OT anymore since all I see there usually is useless posts and people making dull comments.[/quote]


Defender. I was the one who called him an asshole. Not hiccup.
 
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