For You Pro Gamers: Mad Catz MLG Controller Pre-Order Deal!!!

[quote name='Oktoberfest']you know what's funny is that from my experience, the gamers that play games competitively are typically less "nerdy" than the average nerd that plays a ton of a different games and sucks at them[/QUOTE]

... because nerds only compete against the AI. It takes less of a toll on their self esteem.
 
I like that the d-pad and left stick can be swapped as I much prefer the ps3's parallel sticks to the offset ones on the 360. But $100 is a little too much.
 
[quote name='Bosamba']Here's a similar example to help you understand. Let's say Michael Phelps decides to grow out his hair, body hair, and wear floppy tourist swim shorts. He may still be competitive in swimming competitions, but those fractions of a second his reduced hydrodynamics he has now will have cost him gold medals and maybe placing third or fourth instead.

Take that scenario and apply it to this controller. Those fractions of seconds that analog stick deadzones, wireless input lag, and button response time all add up to someone walking away victorious or not. Fighting games, certain FPS, racing games, etc. at pro levels can be decided by very small units of time.

If you're not a "pro" gamer or professional swimmer in the first place, you'll still suck, but you'll suck a little less using the methods that these competitors do.[/QUOTE]

Michael Phelps growing body hair and wearing floppy clothes is analogous to using a 2 year old Best Buy floor demo controller in a competition. What I mean to say is nice try.
 
When does it say it makes you a pro gamer? I swear half of you are just looking for a reason to bash it because it has "MLG" on it. As someone who actually knows the community and has gone to the events it isn't like that. Just because someone has "MLG" in their gamertag doesn't mean their "part of it" so please don't try and bring that up later.

The reason this controller is coming out is because the default 360 wired controller has serious issues with wear and tear and slow turn problems. MLG worked with Markman/MadCatz to get a controller of better quality for the gaming community. I've used it at the last few events they had them at and they where great. Can't wait to try these out.
 
[quote name='kitsunisan']It's funny watching idiots open their mouths, amusing things come out.[/QUOTE]

Awww, someone got offended.
 
[quote name='BigPopov']Official controllers are fine if you are in the scrub - decent player level of gamer.

Fighting games are completely unplayable on official controllers. It's not even an option.

FPS are doable, but you get so much more precision with third party analog sticks (or adding third party extensions to the MS controller)

I love my Hori EX2. Bought it for the turbo, but now I use it exclusively even if I don't need the turbo. (there are better high end controllers out there but for $30 the EX2 is the best bang for buck IMO)

Also, it's really the modular option on this that drives the price up. Props to Mad Katz for offering something a little different.[/QUOTE]

Is this a joke post?
 
[quote name='Ragnorok64']Is this a joke post?[/QUOTE]
Go to the MLG forums, read the controller talk then come back and tell us.


Side note: OP never explained how to get this for $82.
 
Anyone who thinks this will up their game or be WORTH 99 bucks is delusional, or has NO modding skills whatsoever.

Seriously though, I am gonna call it right now and say that this controller will be FULL of fail and people will be crying their eyes out about the $100 they pissed away.
 
[quote name='Ragnorok64']Is this a joke post?[/QUOTE]

have you even used the d-pad for the 360? obviously not. have you even used the stock 360 controller?
 
[quote name='Guilty']Anyone who thinks this will up their game or be WORTH 99 bucks is delusional, or has NO modding skills whatsoever.

Seriously though, I am gonna call it right now and say that this controller will be FULL of fail and people will be crying their eyes out about the $100 they pissed away.[/QUOTE]
Hey look, it's yet another person who has zero interest in the product yet wants to talk shit.
 
[quote name='Evolved']Hey look, it's yet another person who has zero interest in the product yet wants to talk shit.[/QUOTE]

Hey look, yet another person who will blindly support the kind of product that encourages elitism and yet offers no real value to gaming as a culture.

Enjoy your $100 paper weight.
 
I'm agreeing with Guilty on this one. Claim whatever excuse you want to. The fact still remains the same: Someone cannot justify having a better controller than a large percentage of the population and legitimately claim they are superior. You can state whatever reason/defense you want to, but the fact remains the same: 90% of the people playing games are going to have standard equipment / "pads." Therefore, you have an advantage. It makes logical sense. It is a waste of $100.00. What the hell do you need turbo for if most people have standard equipment and such?...

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought.
 
[quote name='Guilty']Hey look, yet another person who will blindly support the kind of product that encourages elitism and yet offers no real value to gaming as a culture.

Enjoy your $100 paper weight.[/QUOTE]

How does it support elitism?
 
[quote name='CyReN']How does it support elitism?[/QUOTE]

It's MLG branded bro... I don't know if much more needs to be said about that.

But just in case.. "Oh look MLG(insert stupid name) uses this and says its beast, I will use it too"

"Oh you don't use that? You gotta have that if you wanna be as good as MLG(insert stupid name here) "


Seriously dude this type of product preys on a person's desire to fit into a certain cast. To each their own, but it will never be anything more than an overpriced peripheral.
 
I can assure you that's not the mentality of a "MLG" player. People on the site think the price is a bit high if anything.

This is what I don't like, people that don't compete or watch competitive gaming bash and harass the gamers more than the people that compete. Some of you actually think a really young member on XBL that happens to put "MLG" in their gamertag represent the whole league because of their occasional immature shenanigans.

This is based off someone who see been apart of both "worlds".
 
I am not bashing MLG. What goes on there has ZERO impact on my gaming, or my opinion of pro gaming in general. Frankly I don't even have an opinion on "MLG" xbl players, because I mute EVERYONE that isn't on my friends list.

Your argument however, is self defeating. Those "really young members" on xbl with MLG in their name is EXACTLY who madcatz is marketing to with this one. It is selling a sense of superiority.

At the end of the day who knows, it could be a quality made set of sticks, but slapping a well known moniker it and selling it to those people you say give MLG players a bad name seems to be just about the direction they are headed.
 
The reason this controller is coming out is because the default 360 wired controller has serious issues with wear and tear and slow turn problems. MLG worked with Markman/MadCatz to get a controller of better quality for the gaming community. I've used it at the last few events they had them at and they where great. Can't wait to try these out after going through 3+ controllers over the years.
 
[quote name='CyReN']The reason this controller is coming out is because the default 360 wired controller has serious issues with wear and tear and slow turn problems. MLG worked with Markman/MadCatz to get a controller of better quality for the gaming community. I've used it at the last few events they had them at and they where great. Can't wait to try these out.[/QUOTE]

That's funny, I have several wired 360 controllers, and not one has worn out (beyond having to replace thumbsticks on the one of the group that is 3+ years old) nor do ANY of them have slowturn issues. Tested and verified irregularly with indie slowturn checker. (Generally when someone at my place claims that it happened, which is rare)

Like I said man, to each their own.
 
[quote name='Guilty']I am not bashing MLG. What goes on there has ZERO impact on my gaming, or my opinion of pro gaming in general. Frankly I don't even have an opinion on "MLG" xbl players, because I mute EVERYONE that isn't on my friends list.

Your argument however, is self defeating. Those "really young members" on xbl with MLG in their name is EXACTLY who madcatz is marketing to with this one. It is selling a sense of superiority.

At the end of the day who knows, it could be a quality made set of sticks, but slapping a well known moniker it and selling it to those people you say give MLG players a bad name seems to be just about the direction they are headed.[/QUOTE]


Why do you care so much. Move on with your life because its clearly not for you :rofl:
 
Speaking as much more of a Fighting Game player than the majority of you all here.

It isn't a issue of "I'm better because I have _____ controller (be it stick, pad or hitbox)" in the Fighting Game Community.

It's more about have a precise controller, no matter which brand or even homemade, that allows you to execute to the best of your ability. The stock Xbox D-Pad is absolutely terrible, I'm sure pulling off reverse SRKs on it can be done, but how reliably in mid match?

If there's a chance of the D-Pad playing a faction in a missed opportunity to capitalize on punishing someones mistake or to make a mistake on yourself, then eliminate that chance and get a better product to play on.

I really like the customizable layout for this pad. And I know a couple pad warriors who will be buying this, as it's really one of the only options out there for them. It's a niche market sure, but so are arcade sticks and with the fighting game Renaissance or the past 4 years, it makes total sense to try this out.

Knowing Madkatz, there will be a unbranded version within a year as soon as the license runs out with MLG for this. Probably the same price but bundled with more parts / color panels for customization.
 
[quote name='BigPopov']have you even used the d-pad for the 360? obviously not. have you even used the stock 360 controller?[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong I have numerous arcade sticks. I like collecting and Modding them. I just think the position that it's impossible to compete at top levels with stock equipment is ridiculous. There's guys like Fanatiq and Wolfkrone that compete at top level in Marvel and Street fighter using pad.
 
[quote name='Ragnorok64']Don't get me wrong I have numerous arcade sticks. I like collecting and Modding them. I just think the position that it's impossible to compete at top levels with stock equipment is ridiculous. There's guys like Fanatiq and Wolfkrone that compete at top level in Marvel and Street fighter using pad.[/QUOTE]

Ps3 sure, but the problem there is that reliable converters between both systems do not really exist. There is a ps2 to 360 converter that works decently but then you end up having to use a different controller type than if you just played on ps3. There is no converter for 360 to ps3 that is acceptable on the market. Acceptable means less than a frame of lag imo and that is stretching it. Dual modding a pad is expensive and if it breaks you don't exactly have the option of replacing parts cheaply.

I only use pads for 3d games but I can tell you now that having a controller that is exactly the same between both systems will be a godsend. I have a 360 at home and most tournaments are run on a ps3 in the US, and I'm not a fan of ps3 pads either. I probably will end up going to france next year to compete if things go well and they run everything on 360. That is great, but after spending so much time switching between two consoles my execution isn't quite where I want it to be. That is why I am getting one of these for each system, I will never have to worry about that problem again.

Why exactly are people hating so much on this product? All reports so far have been great and MadCatz customer support has been phenomenal since Markman made his pitch to them. If you don't want this thing then by all means don't buy it, but for people who play in tournaments this is a great solution to a long time problem.

[edit] It's funny you bring up Wolfkrone since he is sponsored by MadCatz. I wouldn't be surprised if he started rocking this controller at tournaments.
 
[quote name='Ceirnian']Ps3 sure, but the problem there is that reliable converters between both systems do not really exist. There is a ps2 to 360 converter that works decently but then you end up having to use a different controller type than if you just played on ps3. There is no converter for 360 to ps3 that is acceptable on the market. Acceptable means less than a frame of lag imo and that is stretching it. Dual modding a pad is expensive and if it breaks you don't exactly have the option of replacing parts cheaply.

I only use pads for 3d games but I can tell you now that having a controller that is exactly the same between both systems will be a godsend. I have a 360 at home and most tournaments are run on a ps3 in the US, and I'm not a fan of ps3 pads either. I probably will end up going to france next year to compete if things go well and they run everything on 360. That is great, but after spending so much time switching between two consoles my execution isn't quite where I want it to be. That is why I am getting one of these for each system, I will never have to worry about that problem again.

Why exactly are people hating so much on this product? All reports so far have been great and MadCatz customer support has been phenomenal since Markman made his pitch to them. If you don't want this thing then by all means don't buy it, but for people who play in tournaments this is a great solution to a long time problem.

[edit] It's funny you bring up Wolfkrone since he is sponsored by MadCatz. I wouldn't be surprised if he started rocking this controller at tournaments.[/QUOTE]
Fanatiq uses either 360 or PS3 pad, to my knowledge. I've got no problem with this controller, I've spent tons on arcade sticks. I just think the notion that a pro controller is essential to being competitive to be grossly inaccurate.
 
Ahh I agree, it is not essential by any means. I wouldn't want to go back to using my cheap $50 hori stick i got a long time ago but if I had to yeah I could probably do well enough.

Has anyone heard of anything about this deal? I've been checking every day and the price has stayed the same.
 
[quote name='Guilty']Hey look, yet another person who will blindly support the kind of product that encourages elitism and yet offers no real value to gaming as a culture.

Enjoy your $100 paper weight.[/QUOTE]

Blind support? Elitism? Paper weight?

Yeah, keep making assumptions.
 
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