Forget Zen Davis. It's now the "Vader Time" appreciation thread.

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I watched that tag match live, and it was certainly the best one I've seen in a few years.

Shitty luck for Chris Sabin:
TNA Wrestling President Dixie Carter announced Friday that Chris Sabin tore his left ACL on Thursday’s Impact Wrestling.


“Chris Sabin tore his ACL in last night’s Ultimate X match on Impact,” Carter wrote. “He’s obviously frustrated but determined to come back ASAP.” The injury occurred when he landed outside the ring. He immediately held his knee in pain and ceased further involvement with the match. He returned to action in March following eleven months of inactivity due to tears in his ACL and MCL on his right knee.
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[quote name='HydroX']Am I the only one wondering how Heath Slater has a job?[/QUOTE]

It is because of his big, plump, womanly breasts. Seriously, all the 'roids hes done has his breasts bigger than The Rocks were before he had his breast reduction surgery.
 
[quote name='neocisco']Anything with Garrett Bischoff and or Robbie E is automatic take a break time so it was nice they were both in the same match and got them both out of the way in one shot.[/QUOTE]
I hadn't watched TNA in years before Slammiversary so I've been wondering why everyone was complaining about Garrett (outside of his Bischoff roots). He seemed like a guy who straight up should not have been in the ring with those guys. Reminded me of Colin Delaney back on WWECW.
 
That sucks about Sabin. The poor guy's ACLs have become the TNA equivalent of HHH's quads.

[quote name='Chronis']I hadn't watched TNA in years before Slammiversary so I've been wondering why everyone was complaining about Garrett (outside of his Bischoff roots). He seemed like a guy who straight up should not have been in the ring with those guys. Reminded me of Colin Delaney back on WWECW.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if he wasn't Eric's son he wouldn't anywhere near the TNA ring crew, much less wrestling on TV. He and Brooke need to go very far away very fast.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']Shitty luck for Chris Sabin:[/QUOTE]

I wonder if that means his contract is extended by the length of time he is out injured? Rumor was he was waiting for his deal to run out so he could leave TNA like Shelley.

[quote name='Chronis']Reminded me of Colin Delaney back on WWECW.[/QUOTE]

Except Colin Delaney could work.
 
Sabin spends a year on the shelf with a torn right ACL, comes back for about a month and tear his left one? Damn.
 
[quote name='neocisco']:lol: Did you just rate Colin Delaney above Chris Sabin?[/QUOTE]

I don't know about Colin delaney, but i may have to rate Zach Gowen above him. Why you ask? Simple. Gowen can work with just one leg. Ba-dum BUMP!
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']No, Chronis compared Garrett Bischoff to Delaney.[/QUOTE]

#-oHe sure did. The previous quote in his post referenced Sabin and I just mixed the two. Doh.
 
[quote name='neocisco']:lol: Did you just rate Colin Delaney above Chris Sabin?[/QUOTE]

Completely out of context, yes. And I stand by that out of context assertion.


In context, no. I just rated Delaney above Garrett Bischoff.
 
[quote name='kodave']Completely out of context, yes. And I stand by that out of context assertion.


In context, no. I just rated Delaney above Garrett Bischoff.[/QUOTE]

Zach Gowen's left leg is better than Garrett Bischoff.
 
So who's worse: Eric Watts, David Flair, or Garrett Bischoff...y'know somewhere in there is a really bad wwe films movie.

While you ponder that, here's the latest WWE stuff on Netflix:

WWE: Best of Raw and SmackDown 2011 (4 parts)
WWE: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (documentary only)
The Best of WCW: Clash of the Champions (3 parts :D)
 
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[quote name='mitch079']So who's worse: Eric Watts, David Flair, or Garrett Bischoff.[/QUOTE]

Only one way to decide: Three Way Dance! Ironman match rules!! No clusterfuck overbooking!!! Claw your eyes out TECHNICAL MAT PROWESS!
 
[quote name='JJSP']Erik Watts from Tough Enough? He's a fairly big star in SoCal now for NWA Hollywood.[/QUOTE]

I probably haven't watched NWA Hollywood in about 6 months or more, but last time I saw him on that program he was so awful. Poorly conditioned, etc. I couldn't believe they were pushing him. I gave up on trying to follow the show since it changed names several times on the digital program guide, which messed up "season recording" options, which was further exacerbated by their changing timeslot.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']Eric Watts from Tough Enough or Erik Watts from Bill Watts's balls?[/QUOTE]

Has to be Erik, right? Since we're talking about wrestling sons.
 
[quote name='Survivalism']Eric Watts from Tough Enough or Erik Watts from Bill Watts's balls?[/QUOTE]

That would be hands down the best ring introduction ever.

"Coming down to the ring, from Bill Watt's balls, weighing in at ??? pounds, Erik Watts!"
 
I'm reading that intro in Dusty Rhodes voice, except it's saying "from Bill Watt's looooooins, if you wheeeeel..."
 
I'm surprised it hasn't been acknowledged here, but the CM Punk tweets floating around the net this morning where he said his boss made a stupid decision and he wasn't looking forward to the weekend were definitely fake.

here's the site that lets you make fake tweets.

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[quote name='mitch079']So who's worse: Eric Watts, David Flair, or Garrett Bischoff...y'know somewhere in there is a really bad wwe films movie.

While you ponder that, here's the latest WWE stuff on Netflix:

WWE: Best of Raw and SmackDown 2011 (4 parts)
WWE: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (documentary only)
The Best of WCW: Clash of the Champions (3 parts :D)[/QUOTE]

Didn't know those were added. Thanks for the heads up!
 
[quote name='mitch079']So who's worse: Eric Watts, David Flair, or Garrett Bischoff...y'know somewhere in there is a really bad wwe films movie.

While you ponder that, here's the latest WWE stuff on Netflix:

WWE: Best of Raw and SmackDown 2011 (4 parts)
WWE: You Think You Know Me? The Story of Edge (documentary only)
The Best of WCW: Clash of the Champions (3 parts :D)[/QUOTE]

Oh fuck! I guess I won't be buying the WCW blu ray after all. I've been holding off on the ECW blu assuming it will eventually be added to Netflix.... there's still hope!
 
I remember back in the day when Arn Anderson jumped Erik Watts at a gas station. Erik was being filmed by a little girls dad on a hand held camera signing an autograph and got jumped by Double A. That was pretty cutting edge stuff back in 91/92. On Watts RF Shoot video he said the cops actually got called because people thought it was real.
 
The early part of WCW '93 is some of the best wrestling ever. The angles and talent are beyond amazing. That year gets a bad rap because after SuperBrawl, everything went to crap.
 
WCW, historically, is treated as a promotion that "screwed up" too often. We can laugh it up about them putting an executive in place whose prior corporate experience included "Pizza Hut" (who I think was Jim Herd), or roll our eyes at the "Ding Dongs" tag team, Abdullah the Butcher being electrocuted in the "Chamber of Horrors," etc.

But there are ample parallels in terms of horrible stuff WWE did. I would never say that WCW's booking, angles, or storylines are clearly worse than WWE's historically. Is "Cheatum" demonstrably worse than "Hornswoggle"?

WWF almost went under financially in the mid-90's (their financial status is what caused them to panic and release Bret Hart from his 20(?) year contract to go to WCW. They survived.

WCW did go under financially in the early 2000's, as corporate mergers led to a loss of control from the corporate entities that wanted to see it succeed.

History is truly written by the winners; WCW closing was a result of unfortunate timing and corporate oversight - yet the narrative is that WCW closed because their product was clearly inferior and they spent money on stupid things.

The company who spent millions on a buddy cop movie featuring Edge and some white guy never-was is the main perpetuator of that narrative.

Oh, but in my rambling, I forgot my main point - WCW's undercard throughout the 1990's was pretty fucking awesome. Maybe not "Candyman" Brad Armstrong, but TV Champ Bobby Eaton, Flyin' Brian and the Z-Man - I loved watching WCW Saturday Night and/or WCW Main Event because their matches were always enjoyable to watch.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Myke's stuff about WCW.[/QUOTE]

I agree to an extent.

The problem is that when WCW faltered in the late 90s into the early 00s, it did so on a very public stage, at what wound up being the end of the Monday Night Wars and at a time when WWF was fucking killing it with Stone Cold, The Rock, DX, Foley, Undertaker, and friends.

I don't think there was ever a time prior to 1999 or 2000 when the WWF had more raw wrestling talent than WCW. It was simply terribly utilized once WCW discovered the nWo and rode that train into the dirt.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']don't post direct links to streaming sites, friend.[/QUOTE]

:whistle2:s The reason being? If this is a CAG policy, I can't say I'm aware of it (beyond blatant piracy).
 
[quote name='Halo05']Halo05's WCW write-up about Myke's WCW write-up[/QUOTE]


Myke, one of my fondest memories is watching WCW Saturday Night with my late grandpa and pointing out that the off-the-rope, spinning fireman's carry Diamond Cutter is not how he normally performs that move and is actually a pretty special moment. I could go on and on about how I feel WCW had a superior product to WWE and how WWE rarely touched the ringwork that happened in WCW rings and how I miss WCW and WWE should have instead died. ...And I think I just did and I mean what I said. Hehehe

Halo, you touched upon one big problem WCW had in the late-1990s. They rode the nWo angle way too long to where it chafed the company pretty raw. One thing WWE has done better than WCW is working the entertainment industry into their product in a believable, less-ridiculous fashion (because, regardless of how it happens, it's still ridiculous; it's about managing the level of ridiculousness). I have no issue with the Jay Leno/Dennis Rodman/Karl Malone stuff. What significantly hurt WCW was when they a.) booked David Arquette in a legit match, and b.) put the title on him. From what we know now, Arquette, a huge fan of the business, tried to refuse, knowing that it could hurt the company, but Russo is just such a big freakin' failure as a human being that he didn't care. And seriously, TNA legit hired Russo. How many times did Russo have to blow Knobb's knob to get the gig? ...But yes, what hurt WCW was their late-1990s backstage politics.

What killed WCW was when Turner merged with AOL and Time Warner. AOL and Time Warner hated pro wrestling and wanted to shift paradigms, and, because of this, WCW died. Never forget.
 
What the fuck am I watching? I really wish we had a chat going right now, because I'm completely lost as to why Big Show is afraid of Funkasaurus.
 
[quote name='xilly']What the fuck am I watching? I really wish we had a chat going right now, because I'm completely lost as to why Big Show is afraid of Funkasaurus.[/QUOTE]

I said the same thing in the chat. I don't follow it enough anymore, I guess. Apparently Big Show made fun of Brodus Clay's dancing?

Oh, I remember now! I wanted Brodus Clay to turn heel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82A_E1-60mE
 
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