Game Crazy selling PS2 Art of Fighting Collection *new* for $15!

[quote name='wizardofcoz4126']The reason why I am reluctant to do so is because importing is not only expensive , but also there is also the language barrier to deal with as well[/QUOTE]

IMO, fighting games don't hinge on language as much as say RPG's or adventure games go. The only barrier is when it comes to mission modes, such as those in KOFXI or Hokuto No Ken. Even then, there are translation guides that accurately let you know what needs to be done.

I understand 100% why a lot of people do not import. I agree, it is expensive and rarely do you see sales. Lately though a lot of the 2-D fighting games out of Japan have gone "Best" (or Greatest Hits), dropping the prices to the $24-30 price point.

Being that fighting games are my #1 favorite genre, importing wasn't a question for me. It was something that I needed to do to fully enjoy what was out there. With importing I never have to wait to see if something will be in the U.S or if companies will get their act together and release game X.

I'm really surprised that SNK/Playmore is releasing any fighting games at all. Between what I'm guessing terrible sales of KOF 02'/03' and Neowave coupled with many gamers who still view fighting games as "purely nostalgic", I'm really surprised we are getting anything at all.
 
I'm also surprised we're getting any games at all. I was really surprised that SNK decided to support the Xbox of all consoles during the last generation. Not saying that the Xbox versions of any SNK games were all that great but it was still very surprising to see SamShoV and Neowave get stateside releases.
 
It seems to me that SNK is relasing these here based on vintage. I wouldn't be surprised if Samurai Showdown (Maybe a collection of I-IV) gets released after Fatal Fury. I will be buying any such compilations that get released. I will probably order AOF from DDD.
 
[quote name='SeraphiMichael']It seems to me that SNK is relasing these here based on vintage. I wouldn't be surprised if Samurai Showdown (Maybe a collection of I-IV) gets released after Fatal Fury. I will be buying any such compilations that get released. I will probably order AOF from DDD.[/QUOTE]

Samurai Shodown isn't even out yet in Japan, IIRC, so it won't be in the US any time soon.

This game is on Amazon for $15 as well.
 
[quote name='asianxcore']

I'm really surprised that SNK/Playmore is releasing any fighting games at all. Between what I'm guessing terrible sales of KOF 02'/03' and Neowave coupled with many gamers who still view fighting games as "purely nostalgic", I'm really surprised we are getting anything at all.[/QUOTE]

I think we're at least seeing the PS2 versions coming out because they're cheap to localize, since most SNK games were multi-language to begin with. Perhaps we'll at least see ports made available via Xbox Live Arcade or Wii's Virtual Console/upcoming Game Channel. I know I had no hesitation dropping $15 for AoF, even though it's probably my least favorite of the Neo Geo fighting franchises. Now a Real Bout Fatal Fury anthology, that'll get me excited.
 
AoF is obviously not one of the better series from SNK, but as a fan of them I feel obligated to buy this compilation if only to show them that some people do care. Honestly, $15 is not very much at all, and while some of you may think these 3 games aren't worth it, it doesn't change the fact that SNK did do something really cool and release a lesser known franchise for an acceptable price. If this leads to the SamSho/FF compilations getting over to our market, then I am certainly interested in helping out.
 
I guess I'm not hardcore enough... I should probably turn in my hardcore fighter badge permanently since I refuse to spend $15 to get this pile of shit. If SNK doesn't release anymore 2D fighters in the US, it probably is my fault.
 
[quote name='eastx']Yep, 'cause you can't stop talking shit about AOF, which was really impressive in its day.[/QUOTE]

I hate the game just as much as Chac does, but no one was raggin' on me.

Whatever people want to do with their money is fine with me. I realize it is only $15 and I also do realize it's a small step in letting SNK/Playmore know these sort of collections might sell. The problem is I simply don't enjoy the series. I didn't enjoy them the first time they came out and I still don't, is that so wrong?

Just because the game was really impressive in it's day, doesn't mean it would still hold up now. MANY games were impressive in their hayday or when they first released, but very few of those still hold up. There are a ton of fighting games that impressed me as a kid. A couple of those being Time Killers, Mortal Kombat 1, Primal Rage and so on. They did some really creative and great things for their time, but now they are almost downright unplayable.

I don't hate AOF because I think SNK/Playmore could be releasing better stuff, I don't like the series because of mechanics. It lacks the tight controls and fluidity that almost all of SNK's games now have. Pop in a copy of Garou: Mark of the Wolves, or play KOFXI on PS2/Arcade, then go play AOF and tell me there isn't a SIGNIFICANT feel in the fluidity of the controls. The game feels crazy clumsy after playing SNK's future games. SF and SFII were REALLY impressive in their day, why are people playing Capcom's future versions such as SSF2T and 3rd Strike?

Fighting games are my #1 love and they have been since I was around 6-7 years old. It pains me to say that I will not be buying a fighting game collection for $15. That price beats paying full price for a lot of the games in my collection. What it does NOT beat is the quality. As everyone has a right to say what they do with their money, I will save my $15 to purchase KOFXI after Japan's price drop next month.

Also don't single out people who choose not to buy it, labeling them as non-supporters of SNK/Playmore. Regardles if most of my SNK/Playmore fighting game purchases come from Japan, I still love the company.

Buying a game for the sake of PURE nostalgia just isn't worth it.
 
So if you all hate Art of Fighting so much, why keep clicking on this thread?

I mean, no offense, but this is a deal thread first and foremost, and we already understand how the game is so horrible and not worth $15, we get it already.
 
I'm not really buying into the whole "Let's piss $15 down the drain in hopes that SNK will release better games." logic. If Capcom released the original Street Fighter, Capcom vs SNK, and Capcom Fighting Evolution together in a compilation, would everyone go running out to buy it just in the hopes that Street Fighter II, Capcom vs SNK 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, and Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike would get a later mega-release? I'm a cheap ass gamer not a charitable ass gamer. If you guys don't mind, would you all send me a check for $15? I promise I'll think about doing something really nice for everyone.
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']I'm considering using GCO to get this for $7 shipped. Are these three games good enough to provide $7 in entertainment?[/QUOTE]

Not... really. Maybe $2.50 worth of entertainment. AOF 1 and 2 are throwaways. You could play them once if you need to prove to yourself that they're terrible, but I really wouldn't recommend it. AOF 3 isn't any good, but the win quotes are sort of funny if you're plastered. So...

Seriously, these games are lousy. I really wouldn't recommend bothering with them at any price. Save your money for some decent fighters.
 
As long as you play multiplayer, there's fun to be had here. The huge scaling sprites are pretty impressive, and I don't remember 2 or 3 but 1 had great music.

AOF is also the series to pioneer shirt-destruction - finish a female character with a fireball and her shirt bursts off. It's silly, but funny and awesome too. I think maybe some of the early KOF games kept that little feature; maybe not.
 
Nah, there's no hidden agenda. I wasn't the one who deleted your posts, Chacrana, but it's easy to tell that the mod who did was just trying to keep the arguing out of this deal thread. I think you've made it clear you don't like the game, so maybe we should just let it go and stop fighting.
 
if I pass by a GC sometime soon, I'll have to pick this up. yes, if only to reveal King's gender.
 
Garu collection is coming out in august. And whoever said its a good idea to buy this for the support aspect is pretty much nailed it on the head. Like Atlus Snk is notorious for testing waters. KOF maximum impact 2 (2006) sold like shit so we ended up not getting the stellar KOF XI.
 
[quote name='Oswald9599']. Like Atlus Snk is notorious for testing waters. KOF maximum impact 2 (2006) sold like shit so we ended up not getting the stellar KOF XI.[/QUOTE]


Seriously? That's terrible if it's true. I had no interest in that game (didn't like the first one) but always wanted KOF XI. oh well, it goes GH/THE BEST next month so I'll just import it then.
 
[quote name='Strider Turbulence']Seriously? That's terrible if it's true. I had no interest in that game (didn't like the first one) but always wanted KOF XI. oh well, it goes GH/THE BEST next month so I'll just import it then.[/QUOTE]

That right there is the correct answer. Everyone should go get them some KOF XI next month when it's cheap and then it'll be made absolutely clear why you shouldn't waste money on stuff like AOF. KOF XI is such an incredibly good fighter.
 
[quote name='Strider Turbulence']Seriously? That's terrible if it's true. I had no interest in that game (didn't like the first one) but always wanted KOF XI. oh well, it goes GH/THE BEST next month so I'll just import it then.[/quote]

yeah sucks huh! Europe is only now going to get KOF Xl in june I believe and with these collection games coming out and pretty much no real lineup for the fall from snk, I dout the ps2 is going to see any new original properties from snk/playmore. Def. import KOF though, I paid 60 for it and still feel its worth every penny, Im just psyched for XII now.
 
dam no KOF XI for US realease? I remember playing a few rounds at the local arcade. KOF 06 is a ghetto name for MI 2...
 
SNK is stupid. They think that because America didn't buy a sequel to a crappy 3D series that we wouldn't buy the sequel to the long running 2D series? After a crappy Neowave, SamShoV, and now this crap, I think I'm done with them. I'll buy any game I really want used so they don't get a dime. I hate companies with retarded business models that make no sense. I'd compare it to Coca-Cola not exporting Classic Coke to Japan because they weren't buying Diet Coke Plus by the caseload.
 
It seems this thread has gone astray. Good discussion though.

I actually ended up picking this up today and I have to say, AoF 2 actually holds true to my arcade yesteryear memories. I never remembered AoF3 being so horrid though.
 
My local Game Crazy did not have any but TRU had a few copies. Picked it up there. I would not give into Gamestops 19.99 price.
 
[quote name='toneroni']hey is kof 2006 good if we're not gonna get KOF XI?[/quote]

Did you play KOF maximum impact?

2006 is a direct sequel to that game, though in its defense its a much better game than its predecessor. Its actually on sale right now at EB/GS for 14.99 with the whole memorial day sale.

The problem is that KOF XI is above and beyond one of the best fighting games put out this past year or in the last couple of years period. Its truly an evolution of the KOF games. The only thing bettar than it is MELTY BOOD, but im just being biased there. So it sucks we get screwed, maybe we will get XII
 
[quote name='depascal22']We'll probably get KOF XI when Japan's getting KOF XII. I think the Japanese get off on us getting shit years later.[/QUOTE]

Nah, I doubt we'll get it at all. We'll probably get Maximum Impact 3 when they're getting KOF XII. After all, if we didn't buy Neowave or MI 2, we must want MI 3, but not KOF XII. Deductive reasoning FTW.
 
Personally, I liked KOF '06/MI 2. It's WAY better than the first one. Personally, I feel that SNK some how believes that Americans are not into 2D fighters any more. So why is Europe getting SamSho 6, NGBC, and KOF XI and not us?!
 
I think the problem is that many hardcore gamers have moved on past the PS2... If these were Xbox 360 (and especially XBLA) games, they would sell way better in the US. We'd need better fighting controllers though.
 
Well heres to hoping. XBLA should be getting Neo Geo BC so anything could happen. I do agree though that the overall status on 2d fighting games in the US has dwindled, at least thats what the publishers are feeling. I mean look at capcom, they have all but got out of the genre they helped define.
 
Honestly, I am not ready to move to the "next-generation". I could care less about the Xbox 360, Wii, or PS3 right now. Yes, I would eventually get all three but not for another few years. I have a crappy T.V. and I refuse to pay $60 for a game (Hell, I wouldn't even pay $50 for a game and I have about 400 games in my collection!). In a perfect world, SNK, Sega, and the many other companies that continue to release 2D fighting games would continue to release them on the previous gen systems and make sure that they are backward compatible with the current-gen systems. For example, D3 Publishing can still release the last two Naruto fighting games on the GC and still please both GC owners and existing Wii owners at the same time. But then again, I speak madness!!!
 
Backwards compatibility is definitely nice, but that's not a good business strategy. Nintendo DS games sell way better than GameBoy Advance games, even though lots of GBA systems are out there. I wouldn't say no to releasing the same fighters on both the next-gen systems and older systems, but if they want to achieve high sales in the US and Europe, they will definitely need to release their games on the 360 and possibly PS3.
 
I see what you mean, but why would it be more expensive to port a game to the last-gen consoles instead of the current gen? I am a Cheap Ass Gamer. I don't want to spend $399 on a Xbox 360 or $599 on a PS3 just to play a game that a PS2 or Xbox can run without a hitch. So yes releasing some of the older NeoGeo games and newer Atomiswave games to the Xbox 360 or PS3 via their respected download services is a solution to the current reaming American 2D fighting game fans like ourselves get, but it should not be the ONLY one either. Just maybe, and I mean just maybe, if the Art of Fighting Collection sells well enough, it will show SNK of America that we still do care about 2D their fighters. I mean despite what people may say about the series, $15 is a good deal considering the original AES and MVS carts for each game cost ten times that amount a piece! Of course as long as you don't buy it from Gamestop or EB Games that is.
 
I don't think we're saying that this isn't a good deal. Just that this should've come out after Fatal Fury Archives 1 & 2, SamSho, KOF XI, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, and a million other games that never reached our shores.
 
Yeah, it's a good deal in a purely economic sense... but the game itself is no good, so I really don't see it being worth spending... any money on. The whole "Hey, BAKA GAIJIN, you can't play KOF XI in the US" is purely a slap in the face.
 
I'm playing it now even on the easiest difficulty, the COM is cheap in AOF 2. AOF 3 totally killed the series not only are the characters lame the combo system is weak also...btw looks like this game is back on buy.com
 
Just ordered one ^^, thanks CaoPi

I am buying it mostly for collection purposes, don't really have time to play much nowadays =(
 
[quote name='wizardofcoz4126']Just maybe, and I mean just maybe, if the Art of Fighting Collection sells well enough, it will show SNK of America that we still do care about 2D their fighters. I mean despite what people may say about the series, $15 is a good deal considering the original AES and MVS carts for each game cost ten times that amount a piece! Of course as long as you don't buy it from Gamestop or EB Games that is.[/QUOTE]


therein lies the problem-- nobody cares about Art of Fighting. It was never popular to begin with. The only collection that would do worse is a Aggressors of Dark Kombat/3 Count Bout/Kizuna Encounter 3-pack. Not sure if a World Heroes collection would do better or worse...anyway, I didn't even know part 3 came out until I saw it in MAME. Why don't they just release the good games...it feels like every game they put out is just there to "test the waters." Bring on KOF:XI, NG:BC, SS6 and Tenkaichi, Last Blade collection etc.

theory: they don't actually test the waters. they're just fucking lazy and never listen to their fans.
 
[quote name='wizardofcoz4126']I see what you mean, but why would it be more expensive to port a game to the last-gen consoles instead of the current gen? I am a Cheap Ass Gamer. I don't want to spend $399 on a Xbox 360 or $599 on a PS3 just to play a game that a PS2 or Xbox can run without a hitch. [/QUOTE]

It wouldn't cost them more to develop Neo Geo ports for older systems. However, they do have to produce the disc and packaging, then get retailers to carry it. That's a lot more trouble than just getting it put in an online store, and in the online store scenario, only SNK & Microsoft or Sony get cuts of the profits - the retailer is left out of the equation. My point was that for a high number of sales, they have to release their games on whatever systems have the most momentum right now. That's the Xbox 360 (and PS3 to a lesser extent).

Also, it's fine that you don't feel like upgrading yet, but don't expect the rest of the gaming world to wait 4 0r 5 years to buy the newest systems while you sit by and catch deals. I too am a CAG, and I often get great prices on my 360 games.
 
[quote name='depascal22']I'm also surprised we're getting any games at all. I was really surprised that SNK decided to support the Xbox of all consoles during the last generation. Not saying that the Xbox versions of any SNK games were all that great but it was still very surprising to see SamShoV and Neowave get stateside releases.[/quote]

That was Sony's fault. SNK didn't want to bundle their games together with SVC Chaos, Samsho 5 or KoF Neowave. Sony wouldn't let them release their games in the US as a result. Microsoft didn't put any such restrictions on SNK and thus, the Xbox got the ports.

Back on subject... Yay! AOF on the cheap! Everyone buy it and pray for a better comp. next time!
 
[quote name='Apossum']therein lies the problem--The only collection that would do worse is a Aggressors of Dark Kombat/3 Count Bout/Kizuna Encounter 3-pack. Not sure if a World Heroes collection would do better or worse..[/quote]

I actually liked Aggressors of dark Combat. 3 count bout and kizuna are interersting games as well, but aggressors just had awesome characters. Didnt the saturn have a world heroes collection?
 
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