Gamerush-Use this thread for flipping discussions, morals, etc.
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GAMECRAZY had a regional meeting, and they are going to stop price matching buy back prices because of Gamerush specifically. I guess a lot of people don't want to get accused of flipping, so they take all the good games they buy cheap from Gamerush, and sell them to GAMECRAZY. So all Gamerush has managed to do, is insure no one trades back the good games they buy. Sigh, well at least the deal ends on the 20th, so no more drama for awhile. And flipping is not illegal in CA, it's basically the same law that protects consumers here that covers people buying and selling houses for profit....... why are they going after CoryCubed . they should be going after Virgil the manager in Riverside, the la sierra store. He's the one screwing up everything. Just check out the numbers, and the drops of them.
[quote name='dmode249']GAMECRAZY had a regional meeting, and they are going to stop price matching buy back prices because of Gamerush specifically. I guess a lot of people don't want to get accused of flipping, so they take all the good games they buy cheap from Gamerush, and sell them to GAMECRAZY. So all Gamerush has managed to do, is insure no one trades back the good games they buy. Sigh, well at least the deal ends on the 20th, so no more drama for awhile. And flipping is not illegal in CA, it's basically the same law that protects consumers here that covers people buying and selling houses for profit....... why are they going after CoryCubed . they should be going after Virgil the manager in Riverside, the la sierra store. He's the one screwing up everything. Just check out the numbers, and the drops of them.[/QUOTE]
I traded doom 3 to GameStop last week using the latest GR flyer, and got 30$ for it. They were not amused, but you're right about whats occurring, GR has created a huge fear factor and people dont want to get banned, so they do exactly what you described.
So I bought my first game from Fry's this weekend, Batman. I would have bought it at GR, but I've been turned away. I'm very disappointed with this whole affair.
I traded doom 3 to GameStop last week using the latest GR flyer, and got 30$ for it. They were not amused, but you're right about whats occurring, GR has created a huge fear factor and people dont want to get banned, so they do exactly what you described.
So I bought my first game from Fry's this weekend, Batman. I would have bought it at GR, but I've been turned away. I'm very disappointed with this whole affair.
Ok . . .
Well here is what happend. I had to get rid of my 100+ sucky games that I got from CC last July for 5 dollar each. All of these were in thier orginal plastic packaging and I had to removed them before going into blockbuster for trades. Along with that I had a whole collection of xbox games back in the days when I would buy every single game released on the box. So yes, I had a lot of games to trade or to get rid off.
So soon I came to learn about this deal, not from here but from word of mouth and my daily movie pass exchanges at Blockbuster. I became a faithful trader.
Noticing that I can use the 10 games for 19.99 at blocbkbuster (No clue about flipping at the time) I bought 10 and use them to trade so I can keep some of the mint quality games that I had. I am guessing its because the one I was trading were still shrink wraped so they should worth a little more and letting them go felt a little weird. So here, I admit I use the 10 game to flip in the process of three plus weeks. Big red flag, Yes. LOL, my bad. Do I feel guilty, yes a little. Is it hilerious, Yes. Ethical, No. Legal, Yes.
Oh and I traded back a star wars game on the same day because well... it sucked. Error on my part but it suck so bad I didnt give to much thought about flipping. How that game is ever made is beyond me. Profit 25 bucks - 3 games. Would I trade back for the game I traded, Yes I would. Did I flip, Yes I did.
Ethical, depends on who your talking too. For the sake of argument? Ok not ethical.
Illegal? Thank God I live in CA, where free enterprising is ok. (At least that what this thread had said). Did I need the money? No, I can careless about 25 bucks. Can I get my games and money back?
The rest of the games? If it wasnt good and my friends didnt want it, I simply returned in 2 weeks or so later. Flipping? No way (at least not defined on this page). Further because I would love to get the "three games" sets that I traded back for those POS but the trade was fairly agreed.
Recently, "as in the last 2 days" the home store that I go to get daily rental started inquiring about the credit I have, which isnt much only about 100. Give me a break, 100 dollars is like what 2 brand new games? Just today while I was searching for mario party 5, I happen to run acrooss a mint game and had them call the home store for info. The home store gave my customer ID along with adding the part that I have done a lot of questionable trades. Now embrassed and feeling gulilty I felt like I was treated like a criminal. Forgive me if I make money in the process but if you are telling me I can trade in 3 games for 1 preown you dont expect me to take three game and trade for a game that is like 10 bucks? I am no psycho but I rather paid for the full price then let go three game that I took the time to purchuse.
But seiously if I was trying to defaud blockbuster, I dont think I would make it this transperent at all.
If blockbuster your reading I want to apologize for the 10 game which I accodently fliped along with the starwars games that sucked that I flipped.
But anyway wanted to rant here because I wanted to take my 3 NHL 2k4 game I got from CC and trade mario Party 5 to end it all with a bang. But now with my character in question I am extremely embrassed to trade any further.
Well here is what happend. I had to get rid of my 100+ sucky games that I got from CC last July for 5 dollar each. All of these were in thier orginal plastic packaging and I had to removed them before going into blockbuster for trades. Along with that I had a whole collection of xbox games back in the days when I would buy every single game released on the box. So yes, I had a lot of games to trade or to get rid off.
So soon I came to learn about this deal, not from here but from word of mouth and my daily movie pass exchanges at Blockbuster. I became a faithful trader.
Noticing that I can use the 10 games for 19.99 at blocbkbuster (No clue about flipping at the time) I bought 10 and use them to trade so I can keep some of the mint quality games that I had. I am guessing its because the one I was trading were still shrink wraped so they should worth a little more and letting them go felt a little weird. So here, I admit I use the 10 game to flip in the process of three plus weeks. Big red flag, Yes. LOL, my bad. Do I feel guilty, yes a little. Is it hilerious, Yes. Ethical, No. Legal, Yes.
Oh and I traded back a star wars game on the same day because well... it sucked. Error on my part but it suck so bad I didnt give to much thought about flipping. How that game is ever made is beyond me. Profit 25 bucks - 3 games. Would I trade back for the game I traded, Yes I would. Did I flip, Yes I did.
Ethical, depends on who your talking too. For the sake of argument? Ok not ethical.
Illegal? Thank God I live in CA, where free enterprising is ok. (At least that what this thread had said). Did I need the money? No, I can careless about 25 bucks. Can I get my games and money back?
The rest of the games? If it wasnt good and my friends didnt want it, I simply returned in 2 weeks or so later. Flipping? No way (at least not defined on this page). Further because I would love to get the "three games" sets that I traded back for those POS but the trade was fairly agreed.
Recently, "as in the last 2 days" the home store that I go to get daily rental started inquiring about the credit I have, which isnt much only about 100. Give me a break, 100 dollars is like what 2 brand new games? Just today while I was searching for mario party 5, I happen to run acrooss a mint game and had them call the home store for info. The home store gave my customer ID along with adding the part that I have done a lot of questionable trades. Now embrassed and feeling gulilty I felt like I was treated like a criminal. Forgive me if I make money in the process but if you are telling me I can trade in 3 games for 1 preown you dont expect me to take three game and trade for a game that is like 10 bucks? I am no psycho but I rather paid for the full price then let go three game that I took the time to purchuse.
But seiously if I was trying to defaud blockbuster, I dont think I would make it this transperent at all.
If blockbuster your reading I want to apologize for the 10 game which I accodently fliped along with the starwars games that sucked that I flipped.
But anyway wanted to rant here because I wanted to take my 3 NHL 2k4 game I got from CC and trade mario Party 5 to end it all with a bang. But now with my character in question I am extremely embrassed to trade any further.
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I don't know if this is a regional thing or not, but I've still been getting the full trade in amount for games that I paid 5 dollars for. Yesterday I traded in NBA Street V3, DBZ Sagas, Doom 3, Forza, Midnight Dub and SC:CT and got 30+ for each even though I had gotten all of those games from other locations.
[quote name='TUBAPRO1']I don't know if this is a regional thing or not, but I've still been getting the full trade in amount for games that I paid 5 dollars for. Yesterday I traded in NBA Street V3, DBZ Sagas, Doom 3, Forza, Midnight Dub and SC:CT and got 30+ for each even though I had gotten all of those games from other locations.[/QUOTE]
I think what you've described is perfectly normal, and would definetly be regarded as flipping (intentional or not). Apparently GR does not want you to trade in any game back to them that you bought from them. And please don't use the arguement "I finished the game", or worse "I didn't like it", or how about the one I particulary like "I traded in a copy that I bought from a different store, but only after I had bought a second copy using the 5$ deal".
Just watch out for your impending ban.
I think what you've described is perfectly normal, and would definetly be regarded as flipping (intentional or not). Apparently GR does not want you to trade in any game back to them that you bought from them. And please don't use the arguement "I finished the game", or worse "I didn't like it", or how about the one I particulary like "I traded in a copy that I bought from a different store, but only after I had bought a second copy using the 5$ deal".
Just watch out for your impending ban.
[quote name='dmode249']Virgil from riverside (la sierra) was telling some friends of mine, some insider info from gamerush about upcoming deals. Virgil says that the TRADE IN 2, get one pre-order for 29.99 is COMING BACK IN JULY !!!![/QUOTE]
Can't wait to see the exclusion list on it this time.
No way Gamerush is dumb enough to throw this one back out there with the same exclusions as last time. By July, the Gamestop's and EB's should be stocked full of 2004 sports games again.
Can't wait to see the exclusion list on it this time.
No way Gamerush is dumb enough to throw this one back out there with the same exclusions as last time. By July, the Gamestop's and EB's should be stocked full of 2004 sports games again.
[quote name='Kastides']You think these big corps care about you?????? Flip if you want i wont front... Game Rush will have a nice group of loyal customers thanks to these promotions.[/QUOTE]
when hundreds, if not thousands of people are making GR lose money, then yes, they would care. it isnt like 3 people do this. people should be banned.
when hundreds, if not thousands of people are making GR lose money, then yes, they would care. it isnt like 3 people do this. people should be banned.
[quote name='aaa']when hundreds, if not thousands of people are making GR lose money, then yes, they would care. it isnt like 3 people do this. people should be banned.[/QUOTE]
Don't put them on a pedistal or anything. Instead of banning people and getting back the credit they lost...they just stop all the good deals, which will kill their customer base along with those who abuse the system? Yeah, real smart move BBV
Don't put them on a pedistal or anything. Instead of banning people and getting back the credit they lost...they just stop all the good deals, which will kill their customer base along with those who abuse the system? Yeah, real smart move BBV
[quote name='aaa']when hundreds, if not thousands of people are making GR lose money, then yes, they would care. it isnt like 3 people do this. people should be banned.[/QUOTE]
So, do you own stock in BB, or you are just a raving right wing republican (and if you are what the hell are you doing playing video games).
We live in a free market economy. Which means if it is not illegal it is legal. Therefore it is not morally wrong to work out how to take advantage of loop holes, poorly formed deals, mistakes made by know it all corporate morons. If this thread is correct and the person in marketing who formulated the deals was fired and replaced by a more knowledgable game person from EB, then more power to BB. Maybe they will get it right this time.
So, do you own stock in BB, or you are just a raving right wing republican (and if you are what the hell are you doing playing video games).
We live in a free market economy. Which means if it is not illegal it is legal. Therefore it is not morally wrong to work out how to take advantage of loop holes, poorly formed deals, mistakes made by know it all corporate morons. If this thread is correct and the person in marketing who formulated the deals was fired and replaced by a more knowledgable game person from EB, then more power to BB. Maybe they will get it right this time.
Kastides
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Yeah, I really cant understand why people are getting so angry at the flippers... People will jump all over this promotion if they see its to their advantage. Dont get mad at us because we took advantage of this glitch to get us a free 360 and games.
Is BB gonna give you none flippers a cookie, for not taking advantage of the deal??? The answer is NO!!!. So stop your hating and start realizing that promotions come and go whether or not the promotions get abused.
Do you see me getting mad at BB for mysteriously adding a new term in the late fee policy, where after a certain time they charge your credit card for the full amount??? No, because they exercising their right within the terms of service. Is it morally right for them to insert new policies in small print, without clearly explaining to me what the new late fee policy is???
Bottom Line:
BB is gonna do whats best for them. I'm gonna do whats best for me. All you people hating on flippers, need to relax with the verbal insults. STR8 HATERS
P.S. i do feel bad for the people that work a GR.. Because its extra work for them at the same pay.
Is BB gonna give you none flippers a cookie, for not taking advantage of the deal??? The answer is NO!!!. So stop your hating and start realizing that promotions come and go whether or not the promotions get abused.
Do you see me getting mad at BB for mysteriously adding a new term in the late fee policy, where after a certain time they charge your credit card for the full amount??? No, because they exercising their right within the terms of service. Is it morally right for them to insert new policies in small print, without clearly explaining to me what the new late fee policy is???
Bottom Line:
BB is gonna do whats best for them. I'm gonna do whats best for me. All you people hating on flippers, need to relax with the verbal insults. STR8 HATERS
P.S. i do feel bad for the people that work a GR.. Because its extra work for them at the same pay.
I overheard Virgil at the riverside store say something about the JULY 4th promotion, something about buying 5 games and getting 5 free games. It was hard to hear, but he said that they were 19.99 or under games or something like that. He also said the trade in 2 and get a game for 29.99 won't start to late July.
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Here is my issue with this, and I'm sure it has been covered: From everything I've seen, there is nothing truly wrong (morally, at least) with 'flipping'.. In fact, the very notion that it has been giving a name like 'flipping' seems more troubling to me, because I think it conveys a negative connotation, as if you were scamming BB, which certainly may or may not be the case.
This seems really no different than card counting in Vegas. 'They' want you to believe that card counting is illegal or you are 'cheating' them... and pretty much you know what you can and cannot do when walking up to a table.... or, well, 'they' won't be the first to correct you if that is the perception you have... So 'they' deny you service if the computer suggests you have an 'unfair' advantage... I.e., they are no longer going to be making money off of you in the long run in their eyes.
To me, I suppose BB *can* do this using the same logic that Vegas does. However, it should never get to this point. It sounds as if the whole reason they give the trade-in values that they do is to attract business from EB, GS, etc... well, it works. I'll go to BB GR given those deals, too. But they shouldn't be banning people from the store for using the system designed to get them into the store in the first place... they just should have better controls... perhaps just their own form of a 6 deck shue... you may not be 'winning', but you can at least get close enough to break-even that you'd still be winning compared to EB/GS over the long run... and since games generally decrease in value, you may still be ahead.
This seems really no different than card counting in Vegas. 'They' want you to believe that card counting is illegal or you are 'cheating' them... and pretty much you know what you can and cannot do when walking up to a table.... or, well, 'they' won't be the first to correct you if that is the perception you have... So 'they' deny you service if the computer suggests you have an 'unfair' advantage... I.e., they are no longer going to be making money off of you in the long run in their eyes.
To me, I suppose BB *can* do this using the same logic that Vegas does. However, it should never get to this point. It sounds as if the whole reason they give the trade-in values that they do is to attract business from EB, GS, etc... well, it works. I'll go to BB GR given those deals, too. But they shouldn't be banning people from the store for using the system designed to get them into the store in the first place... they just should have better controls... perhaps just their own form of a 6 deck shue... you may not be 'winning', but you can at least get close enough to break-even that you'd still be winning compared to EB/GS over the long run... and since games generally decrease in value, you may still be ahead.
electrictroy
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It's the same principle used on the stock market:
- Buy low
- Sell high
If a store is paying a price higher than another store's sale price, then they shouldn't blame the customer. They should blame themselves, and lower the buy price.
troy
- Buy low
- Sell high
If a store is paying a price higher than another store's sale price, then they shouldn't blame the customer. They should blame themselves, and lower the buy price.
troy
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