GCN/Revolution E3 Game Announcement Thread

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[quote name='basketkase543']That is so true. The PSP, coming out after the DS, totally copied all of the DS's new features like touchscreen, dual screen, etc....[/QUOTE]

You're expecting too much. That's why you're so disappointed.
I expect a marginal upgrade to the controller at best, in which case, those sort of changes could be easy to implement to the hardware.
 
Since Revolution is going to be compatible with Gamecube games I think I will get the Revolution when it first comes out but I will have to find somewhere to get rid of this Gamecube for more than $30 bucks trade in.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']I do believe that Logitech got thier wireless controllers to market rather quickly.
Unless it's a huge paradigm shift in how games are controlled, I'd be fairly certain that they could incorporate the tech into thier controllers... even if the launch titles don't support the extended features.[/QUOTE]

The wireless controllers are just wireless versions of predictable and easy-to-implement controller design. The general idea at this point is that Nintendo is really trying something different here. How different would obviously determine how easily any other system could mimic it, but I have to side with everyone else who says that it simply can't be done this late in the cycle without taking a hit. This leaves Nintendo in a position where they don't really have to worry about being copy-catted, which is why they should have at least revealed something comtrol-related today. Hopefully we'll have something soon.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']I do believe that Logitech got thier wireless controllers to market rather quickly.
Unless it's a huge paradigm shift in how games are controlled, I'd be fairly certain that they could incorporate the tech into thier controllers... even if the launch titles don't support the extended features.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. All games don't need to be compliant. There just neds to be the ability to make new games so.


How long did it take for video of the M$ and Sony conferences to go up? I want to see this whole thing. I missed most of the cool stuff besides the Zelda video at the end.
 
How can anyone bash the Revolution? First of all, we know very little about it. Second, the things that we do know are all good: super small, 512 MB internal flash memory, wireless controllers, Backwards compatible with GC, Wi-Fi enabled, Online library of past Nintendo games, Online titles at launch (Smash Bros, FF:CC).

From the N64 up until about six months ago I wasn't a very big Nintendo supporter. I pretty much thought everything they did was wrong (Zelda Wind Waker, GBA/GCN connectivity, the DS, N64). Now, I'm definitely seeing Nintendo stepping their game way up, and so far everything they've shown has completely blown away the XBox 360, PS3, and PSP IMO. I know some of you know how shitty I thought the DS was in it's first year, but now I see that there's going to be these great games coming out, and online play. I'm really excited for Christmas 2006 to get my hands on a Nintendo Revolution, it'll go nice next to my PS2, and Xbox.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']I do believe that Logitech got thier wireless controllers to market rather quickly.
Unless it's a huge paradigm shift in how games are controlled, I'd be fairly certain that they could incorporate the tech into thier controllers... even if the launch titles don't support the extended features.[/QUOTE]

Logitech had been doing wireless devices for PCs for years before they entered the console market. Using their existing expertise on a standard controller wasn't a wondrous feat. Like the Wavebird it was just a variation of exist hardware. It didn't change how the games were played, it only gave people freedom from the cables.

If Nintendo truly has something different and unprecedented it isn't going to be very convenient for the others to shift gears and do a similar product. Unless they're so far from delivery we won't see launch until the 2006 holiday season, in which case nintendo is going to have serious problems of other sorts.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']The wireless controllers are just wireless versions of predictable and easy-to-implement controller design. The general idea at this point is that Nintendo is really trying something different here. How different would obviously determine how easily any other system could mimic it, but I have to side with everyone else who says that it simply can't be done this late in the cycle without taking a hit. This leaves Nintendo in a position where they don't really have to worry about being copy-catted, which is why they should have at least revealed something comtrol-related today. Hopefully we'll have something soon.[/QUOTE]

The thing is Ledhed, is that I really doubt that Nintendo is trying to do something really different here. I expect that it's a marginal upgrade that likely only meshes well with the games Nintendo itself has been working on. I really doubt that it will be that novel an upgrade, and that the tech probably could be easily incorporated into other systems hardware without that much optimization.
 
[quote name='cdeener']Since Revolution is going to be compatible with Gamecube games I think I will get the Revolution when it first comes out but I will have to find somewhere to get rid of this Gamecube for more than $30 bucks trade in.[/QUOTE]

I hope Nintendo is not planning to put the REVOLUTION out in the same time frame as PS3....it will get trounced. Unless its like 99$.

I sense myself waiting till 6 months after launch unless there is a Next-Gen Mario at launch.
 
[quote name='JSweeney']You're expecting too much. That's why you're so disappointed.
I expect a marginal upgrade to the controller at best, in which case, those sort of changes could be easy to implement to the hardware.[/QUOTE]

So you think Nintendo would shoot themselve's in the foot and make themselves the laughing stock of the gaming industry by naming their console the Revolution and then only make "marginal upgrades" to their controller?
 
[quote name='epobirs']Logitech had been doing wireless devices for PCs for years before they entered the console market. Using their existing expertise on a standard controller wasn't a wondrous feat. Like the Wavebird it was just a variation of exist hardware. It didn't change how the games were played, it only gave people freedom from the cables.

If Nintendo truly has something different and unprecedented it isn't going to be very convenient for the others to shift gears and do a similar product. Unless they're so far from delivery we won't see launch until the 2006 holiday season, in which case nintendo is going to have serious problems of other sorts.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on that... If it is a new and uprecedented way of controlling games, it won't be able to be replicated in such a short cycle. However, I really think that's a bunch of hype and spin, especially with Nintendo saying how much it wants to appeal to the non-gamer. Non-gamers don't appreciate complex, yet clever, controller implemenations.
 
The problem NOW is that we know so little information that it's going to hurt the press/media's view of Nintendo and the Revolution. We have two companies showing off thier new system, showing us movies and pictures of the graphics, and telling us repeatedly how powerful it is. And the press eats that shit up.

But then Nintendo comes out and shows us hardly anything new at all, except that we'll have access to NES and SNES games. (I mean new in terms of Revolution, obviously the Micro was new.) But that's not goddamn enough, ESPECIALLY if the graphics debate is taken into context. The 2-3x figure won't stand to the alleged performance the 360/PS3 have, but my god, at LEAST show us SOMETHING so that we can have an IDEA of what the graphics look like. My guess is that Nintendo's figures are conservative to the hype of Sony and MS, but that won't matter when newspapers and Time and other magazines are repeating those figures OVER and OVER and OVER.

This was Nintendo's chance to show us at least SOMETHING to tell us why the system will be so grandly innovative. But aside from being able to download older games, there's nothing that sets it apart. And granted, that is HUGE for them because it will be MASSIVE profitwise. But at least compensate for the fact that you'll make money off the oldschool and the hardcore by showing us SOMETHING ABOUT THE GODDAMN CONTROLLER.

I would have been happy if Reggie had just slapped me with his dick instead...
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']So you think Nintendo would shoot themselve's in the foot and make themselves the laughing stock of the gaming industry by naming their console the Revolution and then only make "marginal upgrades" to their controller?[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has upset the "core gamer".
Probably wouldn't be the last either.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']How can anyone bash the Revolution? First of all, we know very little about it. Second, the things that we do know are all good: super small, 512 MB internal flash memory, wireless controllers, Backwards compatible with GC, Wi-Fi enabled, Online library of past Nintendo games, Online titles at launch (Smash Bros, FF:CC).

From the N64 up until about six months ago I wasn't a very big Nintendo supporter. I pretty much thought everything they did was wrong (Zelda Wind Waker, GBA/GCN connectivity, the DS, N64). Now, I'm definitely seeing Nintendo stepping their game way up, and so far everything they've shown has completely blown away the XBox 360, PS3, and PSP IMO. I know some of you know how shitty I thought the DS was in it's first year, but now I see that there's going to be these great games coming out, and online play. I'm really excited for Christmas 2006 to get my hands on a Nintendo Revolution, it'll go nice next to my PS2, and Xbox.[/QUOTE]

this must be a joke Chris...


I think Nintendo has more up their sleeve. They always leave the best for last.

Let the E3 hype die down. Just like it does every year then start dropping clues or even (if the PS3 and revo get pushed to holiday of 06) bring the big guns out next year when its closer to launch.


I had thought Reggie promised Mario 128 for cube?
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']How can anyone bash the Revolution? First of all, we know very little about it. Second, the things that we do know are all good: super small, 512 MB internal flash memory, wireless controllers, Backwards compatible with GC, Wi-Fi enabled, Online library of past Nintendo games, Online titles at launch (Smash Bros, FF:CC).

From the N64 up until about six months ago I wasn't a very big Nintendo supporter. I pretty much thought everything they did was wrong (Zelda Wind Waker, GBA/GCN connectivity, the DS, N64). Now, I'm definitely seeing Nintendo stepping their game way up, and so far everything they've shown has completely blown away the XBox 360, PS3, and PSP IMO. I know some of you know how shitty I thought the DS was in it's first year, but now I see that there's going to be these great games coming out, and online play. I'm really excited for Christmas 2006 to get my hands on a Nintendo Revolution, it'll go nice next to my PS2, and Xbox.[/QUOTE]

Because so far they've given us very little to get excited about. They've already admitted they're going to be far behind in performance, which cuts out a big chunk of the market. The virtual library is nice but not a major feature. I can go out right now and pick up a used NES for $10 and plenty of popular games for $5 each. Likewise for SNES and N64. Except I already have all of that stuff from when it was new but I'm considering those who don't have any history with those systems.

So far there just isn't much positive beyond vague promises and plenty negative. The people drooling over the trailers from the other two events are going to be hard put to find anything comparable from the Revolution when the kimono is finally opened. Without defining why this system doesn't have to compete head on with Sony and Microsoft they've left little to instill confidence of good things to come.
 
Realistically, they have all the time in the world. Sure, some people are upset now, but will that matter when they blow the lid off of Revolution at SpaceWorld a month before 360 launches? They will eventually show their full hand, and it will be long before next e3. Don't worry so much.
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']How can anyone bash the Revolution? First of all, we know very little about it. Second, the things that we do know are all good: super small, 512 MB internal flash memory, wireless controllers, Backwards compatible with GC, Wi-Fi enabled, Online library of past Nintendo games, Online titles at launch (Smash Bros, FF:CC).[/QUOTE]


Good point. I think we just set our expectations a little too high, at least I did. After seeing M$ and Sony's stuff I thought Nintendo would have came out with guns blazing... or at least I had hoped they would have...
 
[quote name='JSweeney']I agree with you on that... If it is a new and uprecedented way of controlling games, it won't be able to be replicated in such a short cycle. However, I really think that's a bunch of hype and spin, especially with Nintendo saying how much it wants to appeal to the non-gamer. Non-gamers don't appreciate complex, yet clever, controller implemenations.[/QUOTE]

Who said anything about it being complex? It could be much more simpler than what we're used to today.
 
I'm sorry, but the screens I've seen of the PS3, and Xbox 360 games do not look impressive to me at all. I'm so unimpressed with them that I don't care that we didn't see any Revolution screens, it's like Nintendo didn't even need to show it because the PS3/Xbox360 screens look like this gen to me. I saw one screen that looked slightly better than this gen, and it was a Killzone 2 screen for the PS3, and even that only looked like a PC game, not some mega "cell processer" or some bullshit like that. Why should I be paying $300-$400 for PS3/Xbox360, IMO they haven't shown anything substancial either. Not to mention the Xbox only has limited backwards compatiblity, fuck that shit.
 
[quote name='flizmo007']Good point. I think we just set our expectations a little too high, at least I did. After seeing M$ and Sony's stuff I thought Nintendo would have came out with guns blazing... or at least I had hoped they would have...[/QUOTE]

They still can. They might still have something up their sleeve this week. Otherwise, they have SpaceWorld. And if they are planning a SW (when have they not for the debut of a console), why would they make it anticlimacitic by showing everything today?
 
If anyone remembers the N64, they revealed the rumble pack & analog controls WAY to early and both Sony & Sega were able to get competing products to market in no time.

Great move on Nintendo's part and it shows they've made corrections to that mistake as well as these :

Sleak system design
 
The funny thing is why show more? Stop being worried.

Look this thread came out later than the other threads. Its the most recent press conference and yes its almost double the size of the PS3 thread already.

Secondly what if Nintendo hyped it up and deliver little? I mean honestly thats what Sony did last time around. I dont recall and SCUD missles being launched with the thing.

Again I think they are waiting to show their true offerings. Or maybe they are going to do like they did with the DS. The system may drop in spring of 06 (next to the PS3) but not offer full potential until holiday of 06. Next E3 could show the remaining potential and it could steal holiday 06 (if both the revolution and PS3 launch earlier in the 06 year)
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I'm sorry, but the screens I've seen of the PS3, and Xbox 360 games do not look impressive to me at all. I'm so unimpressed with them that I don't care that we didn't see any Revolution screens, it's like Nintendo didn't even need to show it because the PS3/Xbox360 screens look like this gen to me. I saw one screen that looked slightly better than this gen, and it was a Killzone 2 screen for the PS3, and even that only looked like a PC game, not some mega "cell processer" or some bullshit like that. Why should I be paying $300-$400 for PS3/Xbox360, IMO they haven't shown anything substancial either. Not to mention the Xbox only has limited backwards compatiblity, fuck that shit.[/QUOTE]

Killzone is the only thing that had me looking closely as well. This was exactly what Nintendo has been talking about. Power and graphics can only take you so far. We have really hit a cap on that until some mindblowing new technology comes out eventually. Remember the supposed leaked specs for PS3 that said it would run on 4+GHz processors? Seems epobirs was right. That was not feasible. If we are near a cap, why can't the Revolution compete visually without spending unecessary money on just having the nicest spec sheet. Besides, we still know nothing about it's power and Nintendo is notorious for downplaying their power, while especially Sony is notorious for blowing things out of proportion (even with supposed "real" demos. Nothing they showed at the PS2 announcement was reality - why would this be any different?).
 
I will be getting a Revo for sure. It is clearly the best design out of them all. And I actually really like the idea about being able to play past games.
 
I'm actually more curious about how Nintendo plans to handle thier online game library...
to me, that's a more compelling feature that the majority of what Microsoft has been trying to hype about the 360's Xbox Live.
 
I wonder if Nintendo employees come to this site and thought "gee we need a way to get people to buy games for 5 bucks" and the download idea spawned from that.

CAG IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ALL ACCESS GAMING.

VIVA LA CAG
 
Why are people ragging so hard on Nintendo for using its back catalog to further itself?

Microsoft is doing the same thing, or did we all forget that Allard spent 10 minutes talking about how cool Xbox Live Arcade was going to be (pretty much ignoring its been out for a year and no one uses it because all the games can be bought on the Namco arcade disc for 20 bucks)
 
[quote name='Chris in Cali']I'm sorry, but the screens I've seen of the PS3, and Xbox 360 games do not look impressive to me at all. I'm so unimpressed with them that I don't care that we didn't see any Revolution screens, it's like Nintendo didn't even need to show it because the PS3/Xbox360 screens look like this gen to me. I saw one screen that looked slightly better than this gen, and it was a Killzone 2 screen for the PS3, and even that only looked like a PC game, not some mega "cell processer" or some bullshit like that. Why should I be paying $300-$400 for PS3/Xbox360, IMO they haven't shown anything substancial either. Not to mention the Xbox only has limited backwards compatiblity, fuck that shit.[/QUOTE]

You have to be kidding....did you see the feeds of all the technical demos and game feeds at the SONY PS3 Conference.......(i.e. UNREAL 3 Demo, Skin transparency Demo, DUCK/EYETOY DEMO)

Suffice to say.....MOTOR STORM for PS3 and GEARS OF WAR for XBOX 360 made my jaw drop.

Revolution at supposedly only 2-3x the Gamecube performance........will not have graphics to match those 1st wave next-gen games.

Now don't get me wrong...I'll still get a Revolution. But with its lack of info it has firmly placed itself at the back of the pack.....again.
 
I'm also on board for the Revolution. The complete backwards compatibility with every Nintendo console is the clincher. Everything else might as well be icing on the cake. What I'm wondering though is if Nintendo will allow US users to download games that were only previously available in Japan.
 
[quote name='goosedude']You have to be kidding....did you see the feeds of all the technical demos and game feeds at the SONY PS3 Conference.......(i.e. UNREAL 3 Demo, Skin transparency Demo, DUCK/EYETOY DEMO)

Suffice to say.....MOTOR STORM for PS3 and GEARS OF WAR for XBOX 360 made my jaw drop.

Revolution at supposedly only 2-3x the Gamecube performance........will not have graphics to match those 1st wave next-gen games.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree, if anything the revolution is the one with this gen graphics. The ps3 clip with luna and those "loveable creatures" was amazing., especially the way the light went through the hands and you can clearly define the bone strutures within them.
 
[quote name='epobirs']Because so far they've given us very little to get excited about. They've already admitted they're going to be far behind in performance, which cuts out a big chunk of the market. The virtual library is nice but not a major feature. I can go out right now and pick up a used NES for $10 and plenty of popular games for $5 each. Likewise for SNES and N64. Except I already have all of that stuff from when it was new but I'm considering those who don't have any history with those systems.

So far there just isn't much positive beyond vague promises and plenty negative. The people drooling over the trailers from the other two events are going to be hard put to find anything comparable from the Revolution when the kimono is finally opened. Without defining why this system doesn't have to compete head on with Sony and Microsoft they've left little to instill confidence of good things to come.[/QUOTE]

While I do agree that Nintendo better have something pretty great up their sleeves I wouldn't say a virtual library is not a major feature. We are talking about a history of games that dates back to the original NES. I have to think that the PS2 was a much easier nut to swallow for some since people it had backwards compatibility and a much easier sell to kid's parents when they asked for the new system.

It is obvious that both Microsoft and Sony are adding it to their consoles for a reason. It makes gamers happy. As for picking up old systems and carts for $5-10 why should people have to bother? This way there is a lot less clutter and yet all those games would still be available to be played. Not too mention that some of the older Mario games or more popular games sell for much more than $5 (like Mario RPG). They would have to keep the game cost to a reasonable price though.

While I do believe the PS3 and XBOX 360 look amazing we already knew that Nintendo was heading in a different direction.

It isn't all bad though....online is a good step foward for Nintendo. Yes VERY LATE but better late than never. People do WANT to play smash bros. and mario kart online and now Nintendo will give them that.

I don't doubt that the PS3 and XBOX 360 will do extremely well based on screenshots alone but I think Nintendo will have a little something more up their sleeve than what we have heard. It just comes down to how "revolutionary" it truely is.
 
[quote name='goosedude']You have to be kidding....did you see the feeds of all the technical demos and game feeds at the SONY PS3 Conference.......(i.e. UNREAL 3 Demo, Skin transparency Demo, DUCK/EYETOY DEMO)

Suffice to say.....MOTOR STORM for PS3 and GEARS OF WAR for XBOX 360 made my jaw drop.

Revolution at supposedly only 2-3x the Gamecube performance........will not have graphics to match those 1st wave next-gen games.

Now don't get me wrong...I'll still get a Revolution. But with its lack of info it has firmly placed itself at the back of the pack.....again.[/QUOTE]

Did you see the videos for the demos on the PS2? Yeah. That was all bullcrap.

So if their 2-3x ends up being not very distinguishable from what the others look like, who cares about power. But as already stated, Nintendo always plays themselves down. The others blow things out of proportion (especially Sony).
 
[quote name='jkam']While I do agree that Nintendo better have something pretty great up their sleeves I wouldn't say a virtual library is not a major feature. We are talking about a history of games that dates back to the original NES. I have to think that the PS2 was a much easier nut to swallow for some since people it had backwards compatibility and a much easier sell to kid's parents when they asked for the new system.

It is obvious that both Microsoft and Sony are adding it to their consoles for a reason. It makes gamers happy. As for picking up old systems and carts for $5-10 why should people have to bother? This way there is a lot less clutter and yet all those games would still be available to be played. Not too mention that some of the older Mario games or more popular games sell for much more than $5 (like Mario RPG). They would have to keep the game cost to a reasonable price though.

While I do believe the PS3 and XBOX 360 look amazing we already knew that Nintendo was heading in a different direction.

It isn't all bad though....online is a good step foward for Nintendo. Yes VERY LATE but better late than never. People do WANT to play smash bros. and mario kart online and now Nintendo will give them that.

I don't doubt that the PS3 and XBOX 360 will do extremely well based on screenshots alone but I think Nintendo will have a little something more up their sleeve than what we have heard. It just comes down to how "revolutionary" it truely is.[/QUOTE]

not only that, but eventually the batteries in these carts are going to start dying. This is a great way for Nintendo to keep in touch with its history, and capitalize on it economically
 
[quote name='phatbunbao']Totally agree, if anything the revolution is the one with this gen graphics. The ps3 clip with luna and those "loveable creatures" was amazing., especially the way the light went through the hands and you can clearly define the bone strutures within them.[/QUOTE]

"Loveable Creatures" what was he thinking.....those things were freaky.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']not only that, but eventually the batteries in these carts are going to start dying. This is a great way for Nintendo to keep in touch with its history, and capitalize on it economically[/QUOTE]

Plus, depending on the way the system is set up, it gives Nintendo a carrot to dangle in front of some of the long time development houses... show them how these old titles are turning profit again, and then say, "We'd be happy to cut you in and list your catalogue...if you make a couple of new games for us".
 
As I review the announcements so far over the past 2 days, and then I look at my collection of games for this generation.....I see history repeating itself.

PS2 -100 games, XBOX - 100 Games, Gamecube 30.
 
I don't see what everyone is b****ing about. If you don't want a Revolution, don't buy one. I for one am totally satisfied with Nintendo's announcements. Access to every Nintendo game ever made? I'm there.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']not only that, but eventually the batteries in these carts are going to start dying. This is a great way for Nintendo to keep in touch with its history, and capitalize on it economically[/QUOTE]

Nintendo was trying to push $20 NES games that were on a GBA cart this past year. Would we have any doubt that Nintendo would continue to try to milk these games for all they're worth?

I wouldn't be opposed to having a monthly charge for the All-Access, though. They could charge $5-$10 a month and you could download something like 10-20 games a month. But if you ever cancel your membership, you will still get to keep all the games you've downloaded.

I think that would be more attractive to us gamers rather than having to pay $5 for a Castlevania rom.
 
[quote name='jkam']While I do agree that Nintendo better have something pretty great up their sleeves I wouldn't say a virtual library is not a major feature. We are talking about a history of games that dates back to the original NES. I have to think that the PS2 was a much easier nut to swallow for some since people it had backwards compatibility and a much easier sell to kid's parents when they asked for the new system.

It is obvious that both Microsoft and Sony are adding it to their consoles for a reason. It makes gamers happy. As for picking up old systems and carts for $5-10 why should people have to bother? This way there is a lot less clutter and yet all those games would still be available to be played. Not too mention that some of the older Mario games or more popular games sell for much more than $5 (like Mario RPG). They would have to keep the game cost to a reasonable price though.

While I do believe the PS3 and XBOX 360 look amazing we already knew that Nintendo was heading in a different direction.

It isn't all bad though....online is a good step foward for Nintendo. Yes VERY LATE but better late than never. People do WANT to play smash bros. and mario kart online and now Nintendo will give them that.

I don't doubt that the PS3 and XBOX 360 will do extremely well based on screenshots alone but I think Nintendo will have a little something more up their sleeve than what we have heard. It just comes down to how "revolutionary" it truely is.[/QUOTE]

Nintendo has already been mining that veing for a while. We've seen numerous NES and SNES titles revived on GBA and more recently DS has offered a new home to N64 games. The big advantage of this on the GBA is the massive number of owners too young to have experienced those games in their previous incarnation. I'm a big believer in keeping old properties available but I've got dire misgivings when it is the most prominent feature of a new system.

Microsoft already has the means in place to duplicate this via Xbox Live Arcade. Sega licenses out the Genesis emulation cheap and SNK Playmore would likely be pleased to do the same with the Neo-Geo platform. The PC Engine/TurboGrafx is owned by Hudson and also available for emulation licensing.

Sony likely has something in mind as well. This could be a nice additional revenue stream but system seller it ain't.
 
All this talk about the Revolution being inferior to the PS3 and 360 is really really funny. I'm assuming ther doubters weren't around 6 years ago when the tech demos for the PS2 were floating around and all of Sony's empty promises... Graphics on par or better than Toy Story? :rofl: Nintendo seems to recognize the importance of 3rd party developers this time around - I seriously doubt they would not have something on par with Sony and Microsoft. Also, they launch last which gives them ample time to beef up the specs if they are lacking right now... don't judge until you've played it...
 
[quote name='JSweeney']Plus, depending on the way the system is set up, it gives Nintendo a carrot to dangle in front of some of the long time development houses... show them how these old titles are turning profit again, and then say, "We'd be happy to cut you in and list your catalogue...if you make a couple of new games for us".[/QUOTE]

So basically you suggest Nintendo should blackmail other companies.
 
[quote name='Maverick CRV']I don't see what everyone is b****ing about. If you don't want a Revolution, don't buy one. I for one am totally satisfied with Nintendo's announcements. Access to every Nintendo game ever made? I'm there.[/QUOTE]

I think the reason people are upset is that Nintendo is not standing up to take back the market that they helped become so large....and they have a chance here to be a market shaper again.

Its nice to have access to the Nintendo Back Catalog.....BUT I ALREADY OWN IT and I have MAME........ So how is that a Revolution??

I already play games online via PS2, and XBOX......so how is that a REVOLUTION??

I already play DVDs on XBOX & PS2....how is that a REVOLUTION??

Sorry to say......but if this is all Nintendo has for the "Next-Generation".....they'll be developers for PS4, PSP2 and whatever the next XBOX is called.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Nintendo was trying to push $20 NES games that were on a GBA cart this past year. Would we have any doubt that Nintendo would continue to try to milk these games for all they're worth?

I wouldn't be opposed to having a monthly charge for the All-Access, though. They could charge $5-$10 a month and you could download something like 10-20 games a month. But if you ever cancel your membership, you will still get to keep all the games you've downloaded.

I think that would be more attractive to us gamers rather than having to pay $5 for a Castlevania rom.[/QUOTE]

An all you can eat subscription could be good but I very strongly doubt they'd be inclined to let you retain games after canceling the service. If you aren't going to use the service enough to bother keeping up the fees those games are always available as one time purchases very cheaply along with the hardware. Anybody with soldering experience can replace the battery in about five minutes.
 
"When you turn on Revolution and see the graphics, you will say, 'Wow...:drool: '."

- Satoru Iwata (Nintendo Pre-E3 Press Conference 2005)
 
I'm sorry, but that GBA Micro may sell well but it seems useless to me.

I can already fit the GBA Sp in my pocket. It's clamshell will protect the screen unlike with the Micro. It offers no new features. I can't tell either but if the Micro screen is smaller that's a definite NONO. Of course it could be bigger, but then it wouldn't be micro.

Finally, I have big hands, and it's hard enough playing on the GBA Sp. I dunno how I'll be able to use the GBA-M for long periods without cramping up.
 
[quote name='goosedude']I think the reason people are upset is that Nintendo is not standing up to take back the market that they helped become so large....and they have a chance here to be a market shaper again.

Its nice to have access to the Nintendo Back Catalog.....BUT I ALREADY OWN IT and I have MAME........ So how is that a Revolution??

I already play games online via PS2, and XBOX......so how is that a REVOLUTION??

I already play DVDs on XBOX & PS2....how is that a REVOLUTION??

Sorry to say......but if this is all Nintendo has for the "Next-Generation".....they'll be developers for PS4, PSP2 and whatever the next XBOX is called.[/QUOTE]

Two generations from now they could bring their snowboarding franchise to the Xbox 1080. How perfect is that? And the skateboarder will love the Xbox 720.
 
[quote name='epobirs']An all you can eat subscription could be good but I very strongly doubt they'd be inclined to let you retain games after canceling the service. If you aren't going to use the service enough to bother keeping up the fees those games are always available as one time purchases very cheaply along with the hardware. Anybody with soldering experience can replace the battery in about five minutes.[/QUOTE]

You're probably right. I was thinking what would be best for the consumer, but we all know that's a second thought.

I just hope Nintendo doesn't think they can get away with selling games at $5 a pop.
 
[quote name='MorPhiend']"When you turn on Revolution and see the graphics, you will say, 'Wow...:drool: '."

- Satoru Iwata (Nintendo Pre-E3 Press Conference 2005)[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I might say "Wow...I got F'd in the A."

/with regards to Daphatty

//ah, I'm just stirring the pot
 
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