Gears of War 3 - Release Date Sept. 20

[quote name='hustletron']My first and probably only video for this beta.

The quality is apparently horrible, I took it with my HTC EVO using Qik and I've never recorded video with my phone before so it was sort of an experiment, gameplay isn't ridiculous, probably one of my worse games, I'd say the commentary is decent lol.

http://qik.com/video/39267031[/QUOTE]

"Eat it, eat it". Man, that made me laugh.

At around 1:34 or so, seems like the game goes into Matrix mode for a second there and then speeds up. Did that actually happen in the game, or was it just something funky going on with your phone recording?
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I really dont like the mantle kick because its so random. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes it works on a guy 5 feet away. Its just too random to be used as a skill. If you get it to work you are lucky as hell.[/QUOTE]

It's either connection based or a running start has irrefutable priority over everything else ala animation vacuum because I lost a simultaneous MK battle earlier today despite the fact I was not only in cover, but mantled first and connected before his. His still circumvented mine in mid-air pushing me back onto my side of the cover for a full stagger. The game I was in wasn't even lagging.

My best advice to anyone who anticipates it is to not let it happen. Unless you're packing actives don't bother expecting a down just get the hell out of dodge while you can. Stationary targets have a less than a 10% chance of survival otherwise. It's a broken mechanic that shouldn't exist regardless of how they go about fixing it. It's way too easy as is to rack up kills with very little effort required. MK is simply overkill in every sense of the word. You'd have to literally be blind or a genuine novice not to kill someone after it hits and there is nothing the victim can do to stop you upon impact.
 
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I like to "quick scope" with the gnasher. You get better accuracy without sacrificing mobility.[/QUOTE]

i used to do that in gears 2. maybe ill try getting into the habit of that again, see how it goes. but the sawed off is pointless to aim at all. as someone else put, touch dicks and pull the trigger.
 
I did really good today in tdm. still don't get how some people can eat clips though and then shoot me with a few shots and i go down. and i dont get how i can empty gnasher rounds into someone at point blank - close range and they can just pull out a stupid sawed off and kill me with no effort, lame. overall I'm enjoying the game, but there's a lot of little shit i'd like to see improved, more skill less luck please.
 
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Wow pretty steep price to pay without even as much as a warning.

Wow today i got a triple kill with one sawed off shot. :D
 
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[quote name='The 7th Number']Man i dont know what it is but its like whenever its me vs whoever is left, i always die in some stupid way. Last game it was me vs 3 and i killed 2 of them. Then i have one left and someone says behind you, so i turn around and i get shot in the back. -_-[/QUOTE]

I've only been down to 1 on 1 twice so far. Usually is me vs 5-6 and I try to suicide into them. I've never been that great of a PvPer, but people on this game REALLY sometimes make me feel like a tard.
 
I have easily played more Gears 3 than all multiplayer on Gears 1 & 2 combined. For some reason, I really want to unlock the gold retro lancer for Gears 3 retail. I played my 90th match this morning and now just have to kill 100 dudes with the gun. I've of course already unlocked Cole Train for Gears 3 retail.

I am sold on the sawed off. I tried it at first and stunk. I then went back to the gnasher for like a week and would win a 1 on 1 match maybe 1 in 20 times. I just can not do the one shot kills with the gnasher and it seems to be the way I die the most. I went back to the sawed off last night and am winning a lot of 1 on 1 matches with it.
 
Seems like all the kids are catching onto the sawed off now. The last 5 or so matches all i see is sawed offs. There was this one guy who only used the sawed off. I played against him for like 5 matches, he didnt use any other gun. It was so pathetic to see. I hope more maps in this game will balance out sawed off rushers/campers.

Why is planting grenades, and kicking someone when they are downed so damn hard? Seriously twice today i ran over to kick a downed guy, did the animation, but didnt kill them and then id get killed by someone else. Planting grenades on the floor take sometimes 3 or 4 swipes before it actually sticks. So damn annoying.
 
I feel like people who are complaining about the usage of shotguns in this have never truly put in a lot of time into Gears MP.

This is what it is folks. Lots of shotgun battles. Not sure what you were expecting. It still has a good mix of weapons usage; the Hammerburst and Retro are legitimate weapons and the power weapons are still extremely important to control.
 
I've been playing a ton of the beta this week. I keep getting on the Locust side, so I can't play as Cole Train enough to unlock him.

I kept getting the shiznits blown out of me by the sawed-off, and was cursing it every time. Until I tried it. Back-to-back two-fers. That was fucking sweet!

I'm just trying to get all the unlockables I can. Will only the Cole Train and Gold Retro carry over to the retail? or will all of them?

I also moved from TDM to KOTH. Lots more kills and more action, imho.
 
[quote name='shajek']I've been playing a ton of the beta this week. I keep getting on the Locust side, so I can't play as Cole Train enough to unlock him.

I kept getting the shiznits blown out of me by the sawed-off, and was cursing it every time. Until I tried it. Back-to-back two-fers. That was fucking sweet!

I'm just trying to get all the unlockables I can. Will only the Cole Train and Gold Retro carry over to the retail? or will all of them?

I also moved from TDM to KOTH. Lots more kills and more action, imho.[/QUOTE]

After I reached 50 matches, it seemed like I was Locust all the time. I'd get Cogs once and then 3 in a row as Locust. I did have at least once where I was Cog 3 times in a row. I'm sure I had Cole Train officially unlocked by the 70th match or so.

I think the only other thing that carries over is a badge that says you played in the beta. Don't give a rip about that.

I'm switching to KOTH now that I've unlocked the gold retro lancer. It will be a lot easier getting 100 kills in that game mode.
 
Whoa, I just now realized that only 3 things actually carry over to retail.... that's kinda lame. If they're saving some of these skins for the full game, that tells me they won't have that many unlockables. And I was hoping this beta would just be a small taste/portion of the unlocks for the full game. Hmm
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I feel like people who are complaining about the usage of shotguns in this have never truly put in a lot of time into Gears MP. [/QUOTE]

I dont mind shotguns, gnashers are okay. but sawed offs to me are a little too cheap. Yeah ive used them before, its easy to get kills with. Basically its the same thing as a chainsaw kill. Really takes no skill as long as you get in close enough. But wow today it seemed like every single player was using it that i played against. Thats when it becomes really annoying. Noobs of war 3!

[quote name='iNFiNiTE HORiZON']Whoa, I just now realized that only 3 things actually carry over to retail.... that's kinda lame. If they're saving some of these skins for the full game, that tells me they won't have that many unlockables. And I was hoping this beta would just be a small taste/portion of the unlocks for the full game. Hmm[/QUOTE]

3? Cole Train, Golden Retro, Flaming Hammy, Flaming Lancer, Flaming Gnasher, Flaming sawed off, beta tester medal. More like 7 things.


Just read this on twitter..... seriously? I wish they would do something though. Personally i would just get rid of the mortar. Not sure if underground tunnels would help, or hurt it even more. Someone on Mortar, with people camping tunnel entrances with inks.

therealcliffyb Cliff Bleszinski
RT @MangyBum: idea to loosen tension in the spawns on Trenches. Underground bunker connecting the grenade spawns with tunnels." DONE.
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[quote name='seen']Is there anywhere giving away free beta invites?[/QUOTE]

Occasionally, but those are getting increasingly rare. Best bet is Gamestop and then refund/use credit on something else.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I dont mind shotguns, gnashers are okay. but sawed offs to me are a little too cheap. Yeah ive used them before, its easy to get kills with. Basically its the same thing as a chainsaw kill. Really takes no skill as long as you get in close enough. But wow today it seemed like every single player was using it that i played against. Thats when it becomes really annoying. Noobs of war 3!
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I 100 percent agree with you.
 
[quote name='AlphaPanda']"Eat it, eat it". Man, that made me laugh.

At around 1:34 or so, seems like the game goes into Matrix mode for a second there and then speeds up. Did that actually happen in the game, or was it just something funky going on with your phone recording?[/QUOTE]


It's my phone, I noticed that too when I watched it, little disappointed with the quality but oh well. Like I said never recorded before I've looked into getting cap cards but I don't want to invest to get 720p quality.
 
If you would do a lot of recording, I'd say it's worth the investment. If you wouldn't and you'd just record something every once in a while sporadically, might as well keep the money.
 
Just finished getting 100 kills with the retro lancer. Took me 9 games of KOTH. I tried not to concentrate on getting all kills with the retro. Got quite a few with the sawed off as well. Call me noob!! :)
 
Jesus, Gnasher-fest today. Though, im slowly getting better with my Lancer, so i havent been getting BS'd as much.

Still though, the Shotty in this game has to be the cheapest weapon i have seen in a Shooter in ages. Its basically like the Melee in Halo
 
[quote name='dgwillia006']Also, im falling in love with the Muncher (Or whatever that digging thing is called). [/QUOTE]

Its called a digger. :lol:


Im starting to hate this beta. I keep coming back because i love gears as a series, but this beta is just annoying. I downed a guy ran over by him and pressed Y by his head and he gets up and kills me. Why do they make the little things so difficult to do. Kicking a downed guy is also hard sometimes when it really shouldnt be.

I dont understand how people can get a full red crimson (almost downed) within 2-3 bullets from some people. Its amazing how fast that can pop up.

Ive been trying to use the hammerburst, sometimes it works fast, sometimes a guy can shoot a gnasher at me 3 times and down me all while im shooting him with the hammerburst. From my experience its like everything in the game is so inconsistent. Ive even had a digger blow up right next to a guy and he didnt even get downed. Just so tired of all the bullshit that goes on. I really really REALLY dont remember gears of war 2 being this terrible.
 
This game seriously needs to get fixed before launch. I walked up to a guy who apparently had just put his controller down and walked away and popped him with the Gnasher at point blank. Didn't even down him. Had to shoot him twice at point blank to take him out.

Also, does anyone know how all the unlockable stuff is going to transfer to retail? Is it something they're saving on their servers or is it all on your save file from the beta?
 
According to this page, there's supposed to be "a surprise event weekend that you won't want to miss." I'm really hoping it wasn't Easter with the Bunny masks (that were not in any of the games I played that day).
 
Well im giving up on the hammerburst. I dont know how people can down me with 3 bullets, but i have to use my whole gun just to down them. By the time i reload they are revived or a teammate steals my kill. Hammerburst used to be so good in gears 2, now i cant do anything with it. I try to shoot asap, but that doesnt seem to help.

Hopefully the final game will be a LOT better than this beta, because if the game stays this way im gunna be sad. Everyone just hides with a sawed off, nades dont do shit anymore, the inconsistency of the weapons. Uhg, i hate to even think about it. I mean not one match goes by where there isnt some kind of BS that happens. Most of my matches tonight were just noobfests. In gears 2 i always had a chance to pull out a win, but not in this game. I get shot around corners, my player wont run half the time, i cant kick a downed guy who is right in front of me, simultaneous kills suck, mantle kicked from 5 feet away, or some other BS.

Plus the maps suck. Trenches and Thrashball are the worst. If a team gets up the stairs in thrashball its over. The mulcher/mortar on those levels dominate too much. I dont really like old town. Checkout is the only one that i like, which is odd because its the one i liked the least when i started the beta. I dont know, im still going to buy the game but really not loving all the changes they made so far.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']Well im giving up on the hammerburst. I dont know how people can down me with 3 bullets, but i have to use my whole gun just to down them. By the time i reload they are revived or a teammate steals my kill. Hammerburst used to be so good in gears 2, now i cant do anything with it. I try to shoot asap, but that doesnt seem to help.

Hopefully the final game will be a LOT better than this beta, because if the game stays this way im gunna be sad. Everyone just hides with a sawed off, nades dont do shit anymore, the inconsistency of the weapons. Uhg, i hate to even think about it. I mean not one match goes by where there isnt some kind of BS that happens. Most of my matches tonight were just noobfests. In gears 2 i always had a chance to pull out a win, but not in this game. I get shot around corners, my player wont run half the time, i cant kick a downed guy who is right in front of me, simultaneous kills suck, mantle kicked from 5 feet away, or some other BS.

Plus the maps suck. Trenches and Thrashball are the worst. If a team gets up the stairs in thrashball its over. The mulcher/mortar on those levels dominate too much. I dont really like old town. Checkout is the only one that i like, which is odd because its the one i liked the least when i started the beta. I dont know, im still going to buy the game but really not loving all the changes they made so far.[/QUOTE]

About the maps, I REALLY like Old Town. It's really disorienting at first, but once you get the hang of it there's alot of variety. Plenty of opportunities for sniping (One Shot nest), there's a mortar, lots of closed-in spaces, etc.

Thrashball is pretty meh. You can really destroy everybody if you take the upstairs area, and it gets really unbalanced, especially in KotH. I do like the smaller underground room in the center of the map, though.

Checkout is fun enough. Not a whole lot going on that's really out of the ordinary, though.
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']I feel like people who are complaining about the usage of shotguns in this have never truly put in a lot of time into Gears MP.

This is what it is folks. Lots of shotgun battles. Not sure what you were expecting. It still has a good mix of weapons usage; the Hammerburst and Retro are legitimate weapons and the power weapons are still extremely important to control.[/QUOTE]

This. Gears has always been a bunch of shotgun battles and some people still only use the shotgun regardless of how far they are from enemies. I can only imagine it will continue being shotgun focused now with the sawed off. Panda is right that the Hammerburst and Retro are pretty strong this time around. If you get good with the retro you can beat someone with a shotgun a good portion of the time since it downs pretty quickly and is accurate enough when blind firing at close range.

[quote name='The Ebbtide']According to this page, there's supposed to be "a surprise event weekend that you won't want to miss." I'm really hoping it wasn't Easter with the Bunny masks (that were not in any of the games I played that day).[/QUOTE]

The Event is that they unlocked Capture the Leader gametype this morning. :bouncy:
 
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I broke out Gears 2 for the first time in well over a year this morning. I played one game of Warzone. I've never been a big Gears multiplayer guy, but I can not play that after playing Gears 3. It feels so much slower. Plus, the whole thing with not being able to respawn until the end of a round I don't care for.

I like the roadie run in Gears 3 a lot more. The camera is pulled out more so you can see where you're going better. Plus, it seems like you're actually running. ;) Gears 3 seems to look a lot better as well. Seems Epic has done some good work getting the Unreal Engine to look a little better. :)

I have a feeling I'll actually be playing Gears 3 multiplayer more than just a day or two.
 
Well the one thing I was looking forward to the most is virtually unplayable without a full team. I've never met so many retarded players in two games of CTL in my life. If they weren't camping alone with a captured leader literally IN the enemies spawn points then they refused to pick me up leading me to get captured on average 3 - 5 times in a row per round. Third game was nothing but the opposing team capping me then dropping me due to random smokes, but since my team couldn't get a kill to save their lives they ended up taking turns one shotting me back down before as soon as I got up. Pathetic.

People need to stop playing game types when they have no f*cking idea what the objective is and should be penalized for not playing it. The leader should also get up immediately when dropped so they at least have a chance to escape when swarmed. This beta has opened my eyes to the true skill level of the community pool and just how much lag and host advantage contributed to people believing they weren't absolute shit at this game.
 
I just wanted to let people know that if you pre-order Gears of War 3 from Gamestop.com just for the preorder, DONT!
Once they send you the beta code, you're entitled to buy the game. They will not cancel your preorder. I had to learn this the hard way.

Back in the good ole days of EB Games/Software Etc, demos/betas were given as a "test it before you buy it to see if you like it" type of thing. Apparently this beta is a "sample the game early before you inevitably have to buy it"

If any one knows of a way I can escape having to buy this game for a ridiculous price of $68 from Gamestop.com, let me know.
I may just cancel my credit card that is on my invoice before the game is out, since I don't use it anyway, and it's been fully paid off.
Or is there a better suggestion? Besides man up and buying the game like you guys probably think is the right thing to do >_<

UPDATE: I checked my order status and it says canceled. I am really shocked, because my email was nasty...Nasty , people. I even compared their pathetic prices to Amazon...Im shocked and thankful. Im sorry I was ignorant enough to not know you cant cancel a preorder after a beta code is given out. Lesson learned!
 
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look you can buy the game or see if they will do a pick up in stores and then just return it. but that's not right you should be able to cancel it. or put it up on ebay and get it shipped to the winner's house. so you will be out maybe $2-3 for ebay fee. at most. Y is it $68
 
I was playing some CTL, when i meatshield the leader and get shot from the sawed off it downs me. Ummm, it should only make me lose the meatshield, not down me too. I think thats too much. Speaking of one shot down while meatshielding the leader, i shot a locust in the back with my sawed off while he had our leader and he didnt even drop him. This game is so terrible. Gears franchise keeps brining me back to the beta, but the terrible gameplay and broken game keeps making me shut it off. Im so disappointed in the beta. Sawed offs and inconsistency is going to ruin the games MP unless they do something about it.
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I was playing some CTL, when i meatshield the leader and get shot from the sawed off it downs me. Ummm, it should only make me lose the meatshield, not down me too. I think thats too much. Speaking of one shot down while meatshielding the leader, i shot a locust in the back with my sawed off while he had our leader and he didnt even drop him. This game is so terrible. Gears franchise keeps brining me back to the beta, but the terrible gameplay and broken game keeps making me shut it off. Im so disappointed in the beta. Sawed offs and inconsistency is going to ruin the games MP unless they do something about it.[/QUOTE]

But you're getting shot from behind. I'm pretty sure Gears 2 does that.

I just played my first game of the beta. While I went 14-9 in TDM, I still love it. I don't know why, but Gears is definitely the online multiplayer game that I'm best at (besides Burnout Paradise). Hopefully there's a CAG game tonight that I can join and play in.
 
[quote name='knightsmith']look you can buy the game or see if they will do a pick up in stores and then just return it. but that's not right you should be able to cancel it. or put it up on ebay and get it shipped to the winner's house. so you will be out maybe $2-3 for ebay fee. at most. Y is it $68[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was hoping maybe they can change it from an online order to an in-store pick-up, and then I can either cancel it i nthe store or turn it in still sealed for a refund.

It's $68 because after tax in California, videogames from stores are $64...then there's the shipping $3 shipping fee :D
Expensive, I know! Exactly why I'm upset. I've never heard such a ridiculous policy. They're gonna force me to buy a preorder game, regardless of if I want it, or if I can afford it in 5 months? That's...insane >:O
 
[quote name='McNutsack']I just wanted to let people know that if you pre-order Gears of War 3 from Gamestop.com just for the preorder, DONT!
Once they send you the beta code, you're entitled to buy the game. They will not cancel your preorder. I had to learn this the hard way.

Back in the good ole days of EB Games/Software Etc, demos/betas were given as a "test it before you buy it to see if you like it" type of thing. Apparently this beta is a "sample the game early before you inevitably have to buy it"

If any one knows of a way I can escape having to buy this game for a ridiculous price of $68 from Gamestop.com, let me know.
I may just cancel my credit card that is on my invoice before the game is out, since I don't use it anyway, and it's been fully paid off.
Or is there a better suggestion? Besides man up and buying the game like you guys probably think is the right thing to do >_
 
[quote name='McNutsack']I just wanted to let people know that if you pre-order Gears of War 3 from Gamestop.com just for the preorder, DONT!
Once they send you the beta code, you're entitled to buy the game. They will not cancel your preorder. I had to learn this the hard way.

Back in the good ole days of EB Games/Software Etc, demos/betas were given as a "test it before you buy it to see if you like it" type of thing. Apparently this beta is a "sample the game early before you inevitably have to buy it"

If any one knows of a way I can escape having to buy this game for a ridiculous price of $68 from Gamestop.com, let me know.
I may just cancel my credit card that is on my invoice before the game is out, since I don't use it anyway, and it's been fully paid off.
Or is there a better suggestion? Besides man up and buying the game like you guys probably think is the right thing to do >_
 
[quote name='The 7th Number']I was playing some CTL, when i meatshield the leader and get shot from the sawed off it downs me. Ummm, it should only make me lose the meatshield, not down me too. I think thats too much. Speaking of one shot down while meatshielding the leader, i shot a locust in the back with my sawed off while he had our leader and he didnt even drop him. This game is so terrible. Gears franchise keeps brining me back to the beta, but the terrible gameplay and broken game keeps making me shut it off. Im so disappointed in the beta. Sawed offs and inconsistency is going to ruin the games MP unless they do something about it.[/QUOTE]


When you shoot someone from behind, AIM! It sounds stupid, but aiming will fix your problem or at least it has in every game in the series so far.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']But you're getting shot from behind. I'm pretty sure Gears 2 does that.[/QUOTE]

Actually no, i was shot in the front while holding a meatshield and got downed with one hit from a sawed off.

[quote name='CaseyRyback']When you shoot someone from behind, AIM! It sounds stupid, but aiming will fix your problem or at least it has in every game in the series so far.[/QUOTE]

There should be no reason to aim if you shoot someone in the back, in the center of your gun, point blank.

I played some Gears 2 and actually was fun. There were a few times when i would say WTF. I got gnashered down from 10 feet away once. But for the most part it felt solid. It took 2-4 shots with the gnasher when you werent up close. One thing i noticed at first was how dark the maps were. The gears 3 maps are much brighter. Which is good imo. But id still like some darker levels. The biggest differences i think from 1 and 2 are how fast i go down via rifles. IDK if its because of different coding, internet problems, or what. But in gears 3 i go down so fast. But shooting enemies seems pretty consistent from gears 2 and 3 with the hammberburst, maybe takes a bit longer in gears 3 for me. I dont know how that makes sense. You would think if i got downed faster it would allow me to down people faster.

The biggest issue with Gears 3 for me is the DBS. That thing really breaks the game for me. It takes gnashers totally out of the game. It really should be a pick up weapon because of how powerful it is. That and how useless nades are in gears 3. They really need to put all nades back to how they were in Gears 2, except for the smokes, keep them the same.
 
The game is balanced. Everything here is really case by case.

The Gnasher has popped my head in 1 shot and also never downed me after taking 4 hits. The Sawed off is no OP. You can tell if someone is running at you with it, just shoot them down, jump out the way. Counter it. 1 shot then reload time gives everyone a fair advantage. If they come up from behind, you should die then lol.

Hammerburst is great. With an active reload its even better. i prefer the retro as I like the burst/punch option with it. The maps are great and all have an option to counter. Sitting up at the top on Thrashball, go get the nades. Go with the team and throw smokegrenades or be careful and shoot them down from afar. Mortar is so easy to dodge i don't know why people get killed by it so much.

My favorite is King of the hill on Old town. Capture the leader does suck without friends or talkative team mates. I've played about 12 and won 2.

Overall I'm surprised the beta is as good and polished that it is. Only a few things I've noticed here and there. 1 being when stunned you can move around and still reload. I don't think you should be able to reload while stunned.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Gnasher > Sawed-off. It's simple fact if you aren't lagging or terrible at Gears. Seriously.[/QUOTE]

I finally got to play the beta and I agree with this. I can do fine with the Gnasher, but when I tried the Sawed-off I got beat almost every time.
 
[quote name='Ink.So.Well.']Gnasher > Sawed-off. It's simple fact if you aren't lagging or terrible at Gears. Seriously.[/QUOTE]

Not for me. But I am not very good. Prefer to lance, but since everyone else loves to roll up on you all the time I like having that back pocket soup maker. I can't get the gnasher to work well for me. I'm sure it will come with practice, though.
 
I like the Gnasher better than the Sawn Off. The Sawn Off seems better for corner camping, or if the enemy HAS to come to you or something. The Gnasher seems better for heated gun battles since you dont have to wait on that long reload after every shot. (Its still a pretty long reload if you perfect it)
 
[quote name='Saint Noir']Not for me. But I am not very good. Prefer to lance, but since everyone else loves to roll up on you all the time I like having that back pocket soup maker. I can't get the gnasher to work well for me. I'm sure it will come with practice, though.[/QUOTE]

It will. There's nothing noobish about the Sawed-off though so feel free to write off anyone bitching about dying to it. Neither gun is more "appropriate" to use than the other in the greater scheme of things - only at specific ranges and in certain scenarios; that's it. If something works for you stick with it because in most encounters it all comes down to raw ability and knowledge of self. In my personal experience the Sawed-off requires more skill and preparation to use against competent players than most would care to admit.

Point blank if a gun is effective and suits my style of play I'll main it. If my opposition is lacking they'll die to it. It's that simple.
 
Whats up with CTL. As the leader i had fire nades and was able to use them as soon as i was down, though they proved ineffective. I tried the same thing with frag nades and it wouldnt let me use it when i was down. Also when the opposing leader was dropped by one of my teammates i couldnt pick her up right away. So she got up and i sawed off her ass and she ran off. WTF. Not really loving CTL, its more like submission. I think Guardian is more close to TDM just without a leader. It sucks that Guardian is gone, because CTL doesnt fill the void, and TDM isnt fun when noobs waste too many lives. Ill probably end up playing Wingman in the retail game, thats unless they bring back guardian.

Oh yeah Rod did a Q&A today on justin.tv (i think that was the site) and he said Kim wont be on disc. :( Also he said there were adjustments made already to trenches and thrashball to help the spawn camping, but i dont know what changes were made. I havent seen any changes personally. IMO they just need to get rid of the mortal/mulchers on those maps and put the digger in its place. Its not like the one shot is super dominant.

Its amazing how many people dont throw a smoke when their leader is beating held. I guess its newbies who didnt notice the change from gears 2 and 3. But wow i hate when they just try to shoot the meatflag down instead of just smoke bomb him free.
 
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Holy crap the Sawed off is broken. I tried it out since I was doing horrible with the Gnasher, and my KDR has gone up a good amount since I started using it. Helps me out alot since the spread is wider and you don't need to be as accurate. Now if getting kills with the Retro Lancer so that I could unlock the Gold for retail was this easy...
 
Having a lot of fun with CTL at the moment, but it's really frustrating when I'm waiting to respawn and I see that my team is just not even CLOSE to our captured leader, time ticking down while they're trying to get kills on the other end of the map.
 
[quote name='DOMINATOR912']Holy crap the Sawed off is broken. I tried it out since I was doing horrible with the Gnasher, and my KDR has gone up a good amount since I started using it. Helps me out alot since the spread is wider and you don't need to be as accurate. Now if getting kills with the Retro Lancer so that I could unlock the Gold for retail was this easy...[/QUOTE]

Serious? I have 600 kills with the retro lancer. I can down somebody with it before they can even fire off their second gnasher bullet...
I'd hate to say this cuz it's cliche, but you're definitely using it poorly, and maybe just need more time to figure it out. It's a close - midrange weapon, and using it from a distance is just wasting your time. I seriously use this lancer against shotgun battles, cuz for me it's more effective and faster than a gnasher. Plus EVERYONE tries to rush you because theyre thinking "oh this guy must be a n00b cuz he's not holding a shotgun, I am going to charge at him and try to kill him in one shot! There's no way his rifle can compete against my instant kill shotties!".

Nope, not gonna' happen, buddy!

It's amazing how many people rush at you from 50 feet away, in the open, behind no cover, thinking they can get up to your face and pop your head off...Seriously, these people need to equip a rifle and play less retarded. Me and my friends have only lost 1 match.

My k/d is 9.0 and my win/loss is 14.0. I use retro lancer and sawed off shotgun.
Sawed off is only my last resort if I am out of retro lancer ammo or dont have time to reload, and it's a good gun to use if an enemy is sneaking behind cover, slowly getting too close to you. However if 2 - 5 enemies rush at you, you're only gonna kill 1 - 2 before you die. If you had a gnasher, you could potentially kill all of them. But this is a small price to pay, and they can only rush you like this if you're hiding in some obscure isolated corner with no escape route...

Man, I really love this game. If history repeats itself, me and my friends are going to be nearly unbeatable...cuz no one is willing to put their shotgun down, and therefor cannot compete against a good team like us, who use mainly rifles and focus fire on enemies from a distance.
 
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